[Event 43] The Gift of the Snow-clad Forest (28/11/17 - 12/12/17)

[AgentFakku]

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new gurls

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[Ampchan]

Event extremely straight forward. Good time to farm some life crystals if you need to do that. which is pretty much everyone....

Image made by Ashe over on Discord, be sure to stop by and say thank you if you get a chance....
http://i.harem-battle.club/images/2017/11/28/FOV.png

[hypo]

Like he wrote in this pic, I read in the event description that we can go back to previous gatcha line-ups, but is it with the upper line-up cost, or the original cost? (is that clear?)

[maotd]

If it's like on DMM, it's with the original cost. But we are on Nutaku so, i guess it's better to try if it works without bugs with only few uniteresting items left in the line-up.

[smr]

Wax Vine sluttiest grill of all time

which is good

[maotd]

Well. I had 17 FG so, I did 3 yolo.
1st and 2nd give me just this:
http://img110.xooimage.com/files/e/0/e/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees-53861e2.jpghttp://img110.xooimage.com/files/5/2/c/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees2-53861e7.jpg
And 3rd give me random 3*.

Fuck yes! I got my favorite girl of this event (and one of my best girl on DMM) and a 2nd slot for my newly bloomed Onci just... now. With only 10 FG. It made my day. All (Nutaku) salt is gone. I can die in peace.

[Handu]

Well. I had 17 FG so, I did 3 yolo.
1st and 2nd give me just this:
http://img110.xooimage.com/files/e/0/e/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees-53861e2.jpghttp://img110.xooimage.com/files/5/2/c/yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees2-53861e7.jpg
And 3rd give me random 3*.

Fuck yes! I got my favorite girl of this event (and one of my best girl on DMM) and a 2nd slot for my newly bloomed Onci just... now. With only 10 FG. It made my day. All (Nutaku) salt is gone. I can die in peace.
Nice pulls! It almost looks like doing singles are rather rewarding than going for the usual 10+1. Wax Vine is definitely awesome(been using your helper team on DMM and just enjoying her crit show :] )

Tried getting lucky and prayed for a rainbow:
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oh wow didn't expect two new girls and Wax-chan being one of them! Time to plan on some red manyu farming.

[maotd]

She has Crit only with her bloomed form actually. But yes, she is just amazing. On Nutaku she will be a really good replacement for Aloe in skill activation team. But before this, it's time for red manyu and dragons farming.
And nice roll too. Enjoy your own Christmas Chainsaw.

[AgentFakku]

I don't trust my YOLO pulls but daammmn Maotd

[AgentFakku]

for some reason, I thouht it was grind n shop

didn't start rolling til now, took me 4 rolls (https://i.imgur.com/8GiXQDYm.jpg) weird LOL

[Zandel]

Anyone else notice the hiding Manyu and Ampy's? They swap locations and types but are quite cute none the less.

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[kabosu]

I forgot how easy it was to get everything in theses events I used all the stuff I got and managed to get everything I wanted from the gatcha without having to go back and get more 'gatcha currency'

Theses gatcha event are the easiest but probably my least favourite as having to deal with the 20 limit collect from the box and selling all the extra girls you got is a pain

[AgentFakku]

Anyone else notice the hiding Manyu and Ampy's? They swap locations and types but are quite cute none the less.

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didn't even notice dat LOL

now, I have to hunt fo manyu in addition to Nazuna who is somewhat easy

[Unregistered]

Christmas priority gacha
Lagurus (Halloween)
Huh. . . alrighty then.

She'll be good to group with Scarlet Tulip and Hypercium.

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know what event 44 will end up being? Would it be the Christmas Party with Skimia, or the Shrine Maidens with Amazon Lily?

[Volarmis]

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing the Christmas Party one, since shrine maidens would usually be associated more with New Year than Christmas.

[AgentFakku]

42 FG - almost there to 50 for a roll

[MachThreeSlug]

FFFUUUUUUUU-!

I finally got the secrect garden to spawn for the first time in ages and do you know what happens? My fucking computer crashed! That's what fucking happened!

Argh!!! I'm so pissed off at my computer right now!

[wolf]

FFFUUUUUUUU-!

I finally got the secrect garden to spawn for the first time in ages and do you know what happens? My fucking computer crashed! That's what fucking happened!

Argh!!! I'm so pissed off at my computer right now!

RIP, yeah I usually go afk in the morning while im getting ready for work then i notice one of them pop up and by the time i notice they are at 0:00 :/

[Volarmis]

RIP, yeah I usually go afk in the morning while im getting ready for work then i notice one of them pop up and by the time i notice they are at 0:00 :/

Heh, looks like somebody has the same habits as me. :p
Though I've learned already that if I'm going afk I should either turn off the autorun of the mission in progress or start a mission that doesn't generate a secret garden.

[Unregistered]

Yeah, one of the things BGR does better than FKG is the amount of time it gives you to sally on special missions (1hr vs 4m). I've had secret gardens time out just because I was running through a scripted post mission story on auto and it took more than 4 minutes.

I'm depending on this event's to supply some advanced bloom dragons. I have 7 max level girls awaiting evolution and I've not gotten any in the last dozen (yes, I counted) runs of the 80 stamina bloom dragon missions. Whale missions seem to be the only reliable way to get evolution components.

Also what is with the main line quests that reward bloom birds? Something not implemented?

[AgentFakku]

skippped and got all the event stuff

will do a clear on the higher Gacha

For SC, I only generate 1 or 2 then I do the summon stage so I finish "do 3 SC DQ" and get my LC

[Drip]

I make it kind of a point to clear all the event dailies. Generally, that gives me enough currency to clear the event store or the event gacha. I did a full clear on the event gacha now as well, the lower tiers are pretty cheap. Cheap enough that it's doubtful that it'll stop me from doing the higher tiers. There's still a nice amount of gold hidden away at the lower gacha tiers. The 3* girls can be traded for gold (bond crystals are just an extra). The gacha seeds can be traded for equipment, 2* girls and 3* girls, which can again be traded for gold. And I'm always short on gold!

Page 8 of the event gacha also gave a bunch of lvl 100 bloom dragons, which is nice, since I just ran out of several of those. So that's two bloom dragons of each colour less to farm.

[Unregistered]

I clear the 80 stamina map either 4 or 6 times, depending on how badly I need LC. The daily quest reward bonuses for the other maps do not justify the stamina being spent on something not earning LC, imo.

[Absolute33]

Was it always spelled "Lillywood"? Thought it was "Lilywood".

[MachThreeSlug]

Did Purslane just kill a snowstorm with her bad puns? Because if she did that is freakin' hilarious. XD

[Myrdin]

Guys is the 20 currency map worth it or should I stick with the 10 point one ?
Not yet run the 20 but if you get more yeald out of the first map, there is no point in swapping
(and there were events where the lower tier maps/bosses were better for what you needed)

[MachThreeSlug]

Guys is the 20 currency map worth it or should I stick with the 10 point one ?
Not yet run the 20 but if you get more yeald out of the first map, there is no point in swapping
(and there were events where the lower tier maps/bosses were better for what you needed)

The 20 map gives you 10 more currency than running the 10 map twice.

I actually tested this out of curiosity earlier.

[Unregistered]

The 20 map gives you 10 more currency than running the 10 map twice.

I actually tested this out of curiosity earlier.

Summoned bonus stages have always been 345/10 tokens and 700/20.

[hypo]

Tried the event gatch, could have been better but it's always nice to have a new unit, also a dupe to unlock her 4th slot

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[sla]

Didn't get any gold or rainbow for last three 10+1 pulls. Haven't had new girls in a months (event girls don't count). It's kinda frustrating...

[AgentFakku]

Tried the event gatch, could have been better but it's always nice to have a new unit, also a dupe to unlock her 4th slot

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congrats!

since we got extra 5 FG (https://i.imgur.com/Hep88Eh.jpg), I finallu reached 50 FG

gave it a roll, damn my luck LOL

https://i.imgur.com/O7aJeCrl.png

[durrem]

I haven't taken statistics in years, but I believe the odds to get at least 1 gold or rainbow girl on an 11 pull is 1-0.935^11=52.255%. Is my math right?

[Ampchan]

I haven't taken statistics in years, but I believe the odds to get at least 1 gold or rainbow girl on an 11 pull is 1-0.935^11=52.255%. Is my math right?

See you are correct, but there is actually a small issue with that. Actually there are 2 and I can go through and explain them but I will save you the math.

The first issue, which is true for statistics in general, is that the 50% chance is only true over very large data sets. Thus everyone's individual rolls are not going to be true for that, by a long shot. Especially for the fact that rainbows are a 0.5% chance. You would need to pull gacha 1057 times to even start to get a good approximation (just trust the math, I rather not explain how you get the number).

The other issue is how computers get random numbers, idk if this actually applies to fkg, but numbers are actually only psudeo-random. If FKG actually uses truly random methods, power to them, but because of how expensive these methods can be do to enact I highly doubt it. In essence the number that precedes a value can actually influence the number that comes after. The effect is minor and would require you to have a detailed understanding of how RNG tables are actually generated to understand. In the short term, we do not notice this because the effect is minor as I noted, but does help explain how people can go over 400 pulls without a rainbow when some people get them almost every other pull. As a hint, if this is true, pulling directly after you see someone get a rainbow, would probably not be the best idea, although we are talking an effect that is really only a .05-0.1% deviation over the course of 1000's of pulls.

[sniddy]

Yeh a lot of the whole 'pseudo' RNG debate is pointless

Ultimately it's frickin' close enough that unless you're nitpicky it is the same - unless you're dealing in precision like casinos - a pseudoRNG is more then accurate enough, if it deviates by 0.1% i's still close enough

...and having experienced the 11 x 3* draw I know how capricious the darn thing can be, but having more then my fair share of rainbow YOLO pulls I can't complain

[Unregistered]

The first issue, which is true for statistics in general, is that the 50% chance is only true over very large data sets. Thus everyone's individual rolls are not going to be true for that, by a long shot. Especially for the fact that rainbows are a 0.5% chance. You would need to pull gacha 1057 times to even start to get a good approximation (just trust the math, I rather not explain how you get the number).

What you're saying might be true or might be bull**** depending on what you mean. There is an approximate 52.226% chance on any set of 11 draws that at least one is a gold or rainbow. This is immutable fact so long as the chances provided are accurate representations of the actual chances to draw gold or rainbow. It is true that you'll only observe that over a large data set, but every 11-roll will have that chance of at least one gold or rainbow.

Though it's hardly impossible to go 33 draws without seeing either - there's still ~11% chance to not get any at that point.

[Ampchan]

Its supposed to mean chances are not something you should count on in the short term...

[Zandel]

Its supposed to mean chances are not something you should count on in the short term...

Unless you are in good graces with the Twin Goddesses of Luck and Chance... then anything is possible.

You would think those two beautiful women would win out over RNGesus but from experience it looks like RNGesus does not play fair and recruits Murphy with his law and Irony as well just to screw us over.... that's 3 vs 2... unfair odds I say!

[Drip]

See you are correct, but there is actually a small issue with that. Actually there are 2 and I can go through and explain them but I will save you the math.

The first issue, which is true for statistics in general, is that the 50% chance is only true over very large data sets. Thus everyone's individual rolls are not going to be true for that, by a long shot. Especially for the fact that rainbows are a 0.5% chance. You would need to pull gacha 1057 times to even start to get a good approximation (just trust the math, I rather not explain how you get the number).

The other issue is how computers get random numbers, idk if this actually applies to fkg, but numbers are actually only psudeo-random. If FKG actually uses truly random methods, power to them, but because of how expensive these methods can be do to enact I highly doubt it. In essence the number that precedes a value can actually influence the number that comes after. The effect is minor and would require you to have a detailed understanding of how RNG tables are actually generated to understand. In the short term, we do not notice this because the effect is minor as I noted, but does help explain how people can go over 400 pulls without a rainbow when some people get them almost every other pull. As a hint, if this is true, pulling directly after you see someone get a rainbow, would probably not be the best idea, although we are talking an effect that is really only a .05-0.1% deviation over the course of 1000's of pulls.
I'm 100% certain they're pseudo-randoms. Not only that, but it also seems the randomizer is occasionally "slow" with updating its seed (it's a function of the internal clock of the hardware). Ever noticed how often your girls make a beeline on maps with random nodes, especially when they all happen to cross the same nodes very shortly (on the same move) after another? There's your answer.

[Zandel]

I'm 100% certain they're pseudo-randoms. Not only that, but it also seems the randomizer is occasionally "slow" with updating its seed (it's a function of the internal clock of the hardware). Ever noticed how often your girls make a beeline on maps with random nodes, especially when they all happen to cross the same nodes very shortly (on the same move) after another? There's your answer.

Or when you draw really well in the gatcha and then really well again if you draw fast enough.... that was why people were drawing normal gatcha to get 4* or 2-3 3* then doing premium gatcha... not sure if it ever worked but I know some people were swearing by it.

[AgentFakku]

https://i.imgur.com/XsLSbFp.jpg

finally an event worth doing for a full clear (started too early but I should do it from #9 and up, 25 LC sweet

[Ampchan]

Good luck, I haven't even be able to touch whaleship yet. Given I am not concerned, I cleared out the shop last week, but still kind of blows. Hopefully I will full clear and have some time to prepare on whale before the week comes to an end.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/147661675082940416/388152063227592704/4_3.gif

[hypo]

(started too early but I should do it from #9 and up, 25 LC sweet

Well, you can always go back to the previous pages if you have enough time.

On my side, I have cleared all the pages up to 10, and 11 should be done soon, but there is the re-issue for the Bond crystals...

[Taon]

Full cleared the event and I wanted to provide a quick heads-up: the last page of the event gacha only has 50 rewards, not 100 like the others (you'll only need 4500 presents). I wasn't paying close attention and usually farm up the full amount needed to clear each page before doing the gacha and was caught by surprise on this one:

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[hypo]

Also, the 100-clear reward for the previous pages (9-12) is 25x Life Crystals for each page, which is always welcome.

A shame there is no equivalent reward for full clear.

[Drip]

Just cleared the entire gacha. Now I'm debating whether to farm LCs and Manyus for the next few days, or farm Whaleship medals, or clear up some campaign missions. I'm slightly leaning towards a mix of everything. Gladly, I can skip the Event Secret Gardens now, saving me a ton of stamina. For the SG daily, I can just summon the 0-stam helper stage with the snow jewels I'll pick up along the way.

[Myrdin]

Full cleared the event and I wanted to provide a quick heads-up: the last page of the event gacha only has 50 rewards, not 100 like the others (you'll only need 4500 presents). I wasn't paying close attention and usually farm up the full amount needed to clear each page before doing the gacha and was caught by surprise on this one:

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How much did you need for a full clear Taon my brother ?
Do share with me this intricate secret by all means.
*whips out raybands and strikes a smug face pose)
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Currently I have amassed around 62K event currency. Is that enough or do I have to keep farming for the full Event Gacha clear ?

[hypo]

Gacha Overview
No. Cost Per 1 Roll Centerpiece
1 10 Lamb's Ear
2 15 Lamb's Ear's Skill Flower
3 30 Lamb's Ear's Equipment Flower
4 45 Lamb's Ear's Skill Flower
5 55 Lamb's Ear's Equipment Flower
6 65 Lamb's Ear's Skill Flower
7 75 Lamb's Ear's Equipment Flower
8 85 Lamb's Ear's Skill Flower
9 90 Ice Crystal Ring
10 90 Ice Crystal Necklace
11 90 Ice Crystal Earrings
12 90 Ice Crystal Bracelet
13 90 100 Year Old Manyu of all types


So that should be about 78.500, if I count correctly.

[Ampchan]

yes, 78.5k is needed for full clear.
Ashe's images can be helpful for that, it is in the bottom-ish, right side

[AgentFakku]

almost done ... yay I can do whaleship

[Ampchan]

Finally done, but pretty much only 2 days left for whale...

Its okay, next time is mission 6

[AgentFakku]

im done too (https://i.imgur.com/yegWP5Ml.jpg)

took a while to get the ampy

[Taon]

How much did you need for a full clear Taon my brother ?
Do share with me this intricate secret by all means.
*whips out raybands and strikes a smug face pose)
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Currently I have amassed around 62K event currency. Is that enough or do I have to keep farming for the full Event Gacha clear ?

Sorry for the late reply, I was busy with non-FKG stuff today in preparation for the holidays. :)

As Hypo and JellyWoW have stated, the total is 78.5K; don't forget to run the on-demand SGs with the other currency (20 is far more efficient than 10).

[Myrdin]

Annnd done.
Full clear, BUNCH of goodies. All those 3+ means Bond Crystals, which is very good. Manyus Dragons, etc, all good stuff. And one more day to run the whaleship. Not bad :)

[Drip]

Sorry for the late reply, I was busy with non-FKG stuff today in preparation for the holidays. :)

As Hypo and JellyWoW have stated, the total is 78.5K; don't forget to run the on-demand SGs with the other currency (20 is far more efficient than 10).
Well, not really far more efficient. More like, slightly more efficient.
20 snow jewels for 700 presents or 20 snow jewels for 690 presents.
You'd need 1400 Snow Jewels to get one entire run ahead of doing the "cheaper" run. And by the time that happens, you'll have cleared the gacha several times over already :D

[Taon]

Well, not really far more efficient. More like, slightly more efficient.
20 snow jewels for 700 presents or 20 snow jewels for 690 presents.
You'd need 1400 Snow Jewels to get one entire run ahead of doing the "cheaper" run. And by the time that happens, you'll have cleared the gacha several times over already :D

You get 700 with one run as opposed to 690 for two; I guess it's not much of an issue if you've got a lot of time to kill though.

[AgentFakku]

just realise I need LC for Edelweiss' petals

the event gave a lot but not enuff LOL

[Ampchan]

just realise I need LC for Edelweiss' petals

the event gave a lot but not enuff LOL

Its a shame we dont have the challenge missions yet. LCs wouldnt be nearly an issue then. Also Nation Defense mission 6+ would be nice for the petals...

[sniddy]

I think I left one, number 7 or so on 40 - getting the presents to empty it vs what was left in there and the all clear reward wasn't worth it

[hypo]

just realise I need LC for Edelweiss' petals

the event gave a lot but not enuff LOL

same here, but for Cherry...

At least, I could get this month rainbow SkillBloom

[Volarmis]

By the way, did anyone catch what was the Secret Gift on the last gacha page?

[Drip]

By the way, did anyone catch what was the Secret Gift on the last gacha page?
It's a gift for the girls with that name, giving 30% affection (below 100% affection, I don't think it works for 2nd affection)

[Ampchan]

If only the secret gift worked for 2nd affection :wink:

[Volarmis]

It's a gift for the girls with that name, giving 30% affection (below 100% affection, I don't think it works for 2nd affection)

Oh yeah, I totally forgot those were named like that. Thanks.
I actually thought there was a surprise for the players hidden in the gacha, however interesting idea that would be. :p

[Absolute33]

Bleh... I didn't get to finish clearing out all the gacha before the maintenance started... I assume the new event starts after this maintenance ends?

[MachThreeSlug]

Bleh... I didn't get to finish clearing out all the gacha before the maintenance started... I assume the new event starts after this maintenance ends?

Yep, but maintenance is gonna be a while. We're getting a mega update with the new event.

[Volarmis]

Bleh... I didn't get to finish clearing out all the gacha before the maintenance started... I assume the new event starts after this maintenance ends?

If nothing changes from the usual pattern, the new event should start, yes.

[hypo]

By the way, did anyone catch what was the Secret Gift on the last gacha page?

It was also on one of the previous pages (maybe last from phase 1, not sure)