Miracle ticket thread

[Naes]

? Fire Ama in Dark? or u list the himes u currently have?

nah, Eclipse princess Amaterasu, i think the exclusive one?

And light tsukuyomi? never really thought of her as that good without debuffs, she is aggressive but is it good enough for the tickets expenditure?
though i get she's very against dark damage specifically haha.

[sanahtlig]

Dark Amaterasu makes very strong Dark teams. Building that up could be worthwhile.

[LeCrestfallen]

Light Tsuku has an elemental down debuff, which works like an additional -def debuff for light element, making reaching the -50% cap quite easy, while also improving debuff accurary. Anything else she offers is a bonus, but a very vaild pick for Light.
Also she is cute, so yeah.

[Laventale]

nah, Eclipse princess Amaterasu, i think the exclusive one?

And light tsukuyomi? never really thought of her as that good without debuffs, she is aggressive but is it good enough for the tickets expenditure?
though i get she's very against dark damage specifically haha.

I'd say she's pretty fucking good for the Light line-up and the only hime (for now) with elemental debuff. Not mandatory but always good to have.

[Naes]

So it seems to be between light tsuku and something dark . amon/ osiris or something. rather than any of the other ones. including who i thought the main pick might be.
hnnn. i can see good paths to both either way. Feck.

[LeCrestfallen]

If you plan for the future, take Satan instead of amon unleashed, her awakening is in august, and then she becomes better than amon in most cases. Otherwise Hades is also a solid choice, for affliction block, a-frame atk down and blind.

[Laventale]

If you plan for the future, take Satan instead of amon unleashed, her awakening is in august, and then she becomes better than amon in most cases. Otherwise Hades is also a solid choice, for affliction block, a-frame atk down and blind.

To top it off, next Miracle Ticket is also around August, so you can take your chances and pull another good Dark Hime.

[BlazeAlter]

To top it off, next Miracle Ticket is also around August, so you can take your chances and pull another good Dark Hime.

Isn't the miracle ticket interval something like 3-4 months?
If it is, then the next one would be something like late june or early july

edit:
okay nvm, i looked up the DMM miracle ticket schedule and their 3rd one was on august
I just based my guess off nutaku's schedule since our version's 2nd ticket was released on late march

[Laventale]

Isn't the miracle ticket interval something like 3-4 months?
If it is, then the next one would be something like late june or early july

edit:
okay nvm, i looked up the DMM miracle ticket schedule and their 3rd one was on august
I just based my guess off nutaku's schedule since our version's 2nd ticket was released on late march

Based on DMM calendar, this ticket should've been in April and next one in August.

You never know what Nutaku will pull outta their hat.

[BlazeAlter]

Based on DMM calendar, this ticket should've been in April and next one in August.

You never know what Nutaku will pull outta their hat.

True....
I can see them doing a late july release though (basing it off this 2nd miracle ticket release of ours), but whether its on july or august is fine by me, since the kamihime I'm going for would be included anyways.

[sanahtlig]

The DMM Miracle ticket schedule is not evenly-spaced. The schedule is: late December, early April, mid August. So there's just over 3 months between the first, and just over 4 months between the latter 2, for a total of 3 per year. This probably lines up with Japanese holidays or something.

[Unregistered]

Late December's the xmas/new year's combination holiday that I know at least one industry (manga) takes off for
Early April sounds like around the time of the game's anniversary
Mid August sounds like Obon

I'm surprised by the lack of Golden Week

[Laventale]

The DMM Miracle ticket schedule is not evenly-spaced. The schedule is: late December, early April, mid August. So there's just over 3 months between the first, and just over 4 months between the latter 2, for a total of 3 per year. This probably lines up with Japanese holidays or something.

Wasn't last December's Mtix released around Mid December until January, 2nd or so?

[QXZ]

And light tsukuyomi? never really thought of her as that good without debuffs, she is aggressive but is it good enough for the tickets expenditure?
though i get she's very against dark damage specifically haha.

the main reason to use her is for the light debuff - which is elemental frame. she is the only light hime with this type of debuff, making her irreplaceable. she is by no means overpowered. but she simply can not be switched out as easily as other himes.

[sanahtlig]

If you want to use a Light team against any element other than Dark, the elemental resist down is invaluable for landing your debuffs. The Blind is also useful for keeping combo attacks from decimating your party.

[AznSamsung]

So its time to see wat i should i get ....

Here's my Kamihime list to help determine wat you can suggest ... yes i know its a lot of sr hime (its only 94)...:

Fire:
(SSR) Awakening Svarog, Ares, Amaterasu (previous Micalce Ticket), Acala, Yamaraja
(SR) Kagutsuchi, Amon, Agni, Motu, Raguel, Nataku, Brynhildr
(R) Taikoubou, Baphomet, Nergal, Dazbog, Hestia

Water:
(SSR) Nike, Aphrodite
(SR) Nike, Cupid, Triton, Belphegor, Nodens, Gabriel
(R) Ganges, Oto-Hime, Circe, Dagon, Apsara, Kushinada, Rushalka, Undine, Abzu

Wind:
(SSR) Odin.
(SR) Hermes, Heimdallr, Ithaqua, Guan Yu (Aisha), Cronus, Cybele, Maeve, Freja, Oberon, Krampus
(R) Caspiel, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus, Reginleiv,

Lightning:
(SSR) Jupitor, Tyr, Thor
(SR) Ramiel, Psyche, Hermod, Baal, Tezcatlipoca
(R) Verethragna, Skuld, Perun, Indra

Dark:
(SSR) Satan.
(SR) Nyarlathotep, Bastet, Lu-Bu (Ren), Tsukuyomi, Balor, Pale Rider, Beelzebub, Meretseger, Pharol
(R) Apep, Neith, Astaroth

Light:
(SSR) Raphael
(SR) Uzume, Belobog, Artemis [Light Speed] Hermod, UrAnus, Baldr, Diana, Anteros,
(R) Christmas Perun, Inanna, Dike, Aurora, Orpheus, Urania


So pretty much my fire is the strongest with water next (weapon grid is done just need to skill lvl)
So which hime i should get next ....
mars get my fire to -50% def
water need 2 of the trinity ...
thunder idk
wind idk
light idk
dark idk ...

rip me ... HELP!!!

[sanahtlig]

So its time to see wat i should i get ....

Fire:
(SSR) Awakening Svarog, Ares, Amaterasu (previous Micalce Ticket), Acala, Yamaraja
(SR) Kagutsuchi, Amon, Agni, Motu, Raguel, Nataku, Brynhildr
(R) Taikoubou, Baphomet, Nergal, Dazbog, Hestia

Water:
(SSR) Nike, Aphrodite
(SR) Nike, Cupid, Triton, Belphegor, Nodens, Gabriel
(R) Ganges, Oto-Hime, Circe, Dagon, Apsara, Kushinada, Rushalka, Undine, Abzu

Wind:
(SSR) Odin.
(SR) Hermes, Heimdallr, Ithaqua, Guan Yu (Aisha), Cronus, Cybele, Maeve, Freja, Oberon, Krampus
(R) Caspiel, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus, Reginleiv,

Lightning:
(SSR) Jupitor, Tyr, Thor
(SR) Ramiel, Psyche, Hermod, Baal, Tezcatlipoca
(R) Verethragna, Skuld, Perun, Indra

Dark:
(SSR) Satan.
(SR) Nyarlathotep, Bastet, Lu-Bu (Ren), Tsukuyomi, Balor, Pale Rider, Beelzebub, Meretseger, Pharol
(R) Apep, Neith, Astaroth

Light:
(SSR) Raphael
(SR) Uzume, Belobog, Artemis [Light Speed] Hermod, UrAnus, Baldr, Diana, Anteros,
(R) Christmas Perun, Inanna, Dike, Aurora, Orpheus, Urania

I'd focus on the Fire, Dark, or Water team.
Fire: Mars
Dark: Hades
Water: Cthulhu

IMO, Thunder is painful to play without a +100% eidolon or additional DEF down. Tyr is not really a member you want to rely on right now.

[beefypanda]

Fairly new to the game and buying my first Miracle ticket. I would love some advice from the more experienced / senior members of the community on which team I should focus on and how most intelligently spend my Miracle ticket. Any advice is appreciated.

Weapon grids for Water, Wind, Lightning, Light elements are filled with SR or higher and with at least lvl 10 in skill. Fire and Darkness are pretty far off.

Here are my current Kamihime's


Fire:
(SSR) None
(SR) Hephaestus, Agni, Amon
(Eidolon): Fafnir and Yatagarasu

Water:
(SSR) Ea, Cthulhu, Nike [Unleashed]
(SR) Nike, Cupid, Parvati, Belphegor,
(Eidolon) Fafnir, Rahab

Wind:
(SSR) Odin
(SR) Hermes, Cybele, Maeve,
(Eidolon) Kyuki and Icarus

Lightning:
(SSR) None
(SR) Ramiel, Baal, Hermod, Nemesis, Astraea, Psyche
(Eidolon) Ixion

Dark:
(SSR) None
(SR) Pharol and Bastet
(Eidolon) Azathoth

Light:
(SSR) Sol
(SR) Uranus
(Eidolon) None of note



Thank you again for any assistance or advice you can offer.

[Slashley]

Your notable Hime are pretty much all Water - Cthulhu, SSR Nike (and Belphegor). So Snow Raphael would complete your Water trinity.

Your other option is Light, in which case you'd probably want SSR Tsukuyomi. Sadly, without Diana, this might be a bit suffering. The good side is, Light has no weak element.

[QXZ]

do what Slashley says. get Snow Raph. After that .... probably Athirat

[Cobblemaniac]

do what Slashley says. get Snow Raph. After that .... probably Athirat

Might as well wait until the Ashirat release, you'll get a boosted rate for her and the 100% atk eidolon, however little that is.

[sanahtlig]

Might as well wait until the Ashirat release, you'll get a boosted rate for her and the 100% atk eidolon, however little that is.
If you're going to do that, pay careful attention to the deadlines and expiration dates on the Miracle ticket.

[Cobblemaniac]

If you're going to do that, pay careful attention to the deadlines and expiration dates on the Miracle ticket.

Will do, thanks for the reminder :bgrin:

[_Nova]

So i've got 2 options for this ticket basicallly, wind or light:

Wind SSR: Gaia, Hastur
so I'd get titania then SSR cybele with the next one

Light SSR: Metatron, LTsukuyomi
So I'd grab either Sol or Michael and then get whoever I didn't pick up for the next one, then SSR Artemis for the next (apparently that's when she will be released).

I'm leaning towards light right now because of the whole no weakness, but I don't have Diana so i'd be missing that A frame def down until I either get her or SSR Artemis. If I do this, I'd use Gaia in the team anyway until the next miracle ticket, so should i pick up Sol or Michael? (I'm guessing Sol is probably more important for the debuffs).

OR am I making a huge mistake and should just keep with wind?

[Yolodesu]

So i've got 2 options for this ticket basicallly, wind or light:

Wind SSR: Gaia, Hastur
so I'd get titania then SSR cybele with the next one

Light SSR: Metatron, LTsukuyomi
So I'd grab either Sol or Michael and then get whoever I didn't pick up for the next one, then SSR Artemis for the next (apparently that's when she will be released).

I'm leaning towards light right now because of the whole no weakness, but I don't have Diana so i'd be missing that A frame def down until I either get her or SSR Artemis. If I do this, I'd use Gaia in the team anyway until the next miracle ticket, so should i pick up Sol or Michael? (I'm guessing Sol is probably more important for the debuffs).

OR am I making a huge mistake and should just keep with wind?


Both options are perfectly viable.

On one hand you have 2 good core KH for wind. Getting Titania is indeed an option, but her and Gaia will lead to different builds and aren't usually used together. That's not an issue at all, since it will give you more flexibility in the future.
You'll need a water team if you're willing to do fire event tough.

On the other hand, light doesn't have weakness and will be able to clear all the content alone, but Metatron is not a core KH, and probably one of the worst light kami to get atm. An eventual awakening might be able to change that in the far future.
Tsukuyomi is required for pretty much every build.
If you're unlucky and Diana doesn't want to drop, you can still run Mordred or Dart + ambush to get the job done.
Sol is clearly advised if you go that way. Michael is good to have (especially for her future awakening, but it's one year ahead) but not required atm except for Shingen build.
If i'm right, Artemis wasn't available before the 4th miracle ticket, meaning you'll be free to choose either Eros or Michael with the 3rd.

If you can't decide between those two options, and have some spared jewels, Cybele will be released in a couple of days. Wait until then, roll for her and see what happens.

[_Nova]

So I'm leaning towards light atm, I wasted all my jewels trying to get Sol from the popularity boosted gatcha but that didn't happen so I wont have tries for Cybele, would have to go for her on the next miracle. I'm currently working towards Mordred as my first legendary soul, (eventually I want to run Shingen with a burst build). So if I pick up Sol, should i run Gaia/Sol/LTsukuyomi/Metatron as my team? Thanks for the advice.

[Laventale]

So I'm leaning towards light atm, I wasted all my jewels trying to get Sol from the popularity boosted gatcha but that didn't happen so I wont have tries for Cybele, would have to go for her on the next miracle. I'm currently working towards Mordred as my first legendary soul, (eventually I want to run Shingen with a burst build). So if I pick up Sol, should i run Gaia/Sol/LTsukuyomi/Metatron as my team? Thanks for the advice.

I guess you have all of these himes except Sol, and Sol is core for Light anyways, so go ahead and pick her up.

[Ertx]

Fire: Yamaraja, Brynhildr, Motu (I also have Belial)

Water: Cthulu, Ryu-Oh, Kikuri-Hime

Wind: Freja, Ithaqua

Thunder: Brahma, Nemesis, Kingu

Dark: Hades, Eligos, Pharol, Meretseger

Light: Metatron, Anteros, Diana, Uranus

I don't have much as I just started a few events ago, but which Kamihime would give me the most bang for my buck? I lucked out on getting Belial but I wasn't around for the last miracle ticket. Thanks all.

[Kitty]

Fire: Yamaraja, Brynhildr, Motu (I also have Belial)

Water: Cthulu, Ryu-Oh, Kikuri-Hime

Wind: Freja, Ithaqua

Thunder: Brahma, Nemesis, Kingu

Dark: Hades, Eligos, Pharol, Meretseger

Light: Metatron, Anteros, Diana, Uranus

I don't have much as I just started a few events ago, but which Kamihime would give me the most bang for my buck? I lucked out on getting Belial but I wasn't around for the last miracle ticket. Thanks all.

get Mars

i'd say Amaterasu, but as you have Yamaraja with the -15% def/atk debuff ... hopefully you can just find her in the future and switch yama out for her.
since you have Belial, you're gonna have to main fire.. you have the healer for it, debuff, motu is an OK offense for now.. Mars will be a great 2nd debuffer with her elemental debuff

[Slashley]

Fire: Yamaraja, Brynhildr, Motu (I also have Belial)--You have 0/4 Fire cores, but it's time to go fire anyway.
Your options are Svarog, Mars or Amaterasu. I honestly don't know which one would be the best.

Amaterasu is supposedly what Fire leans on due to her Blind, regen and -20% B, but thanks to you having Brynhildr for heals and Yamaraja for -15% B, is she immediately necessary? I don't know.
Svarog is just damn good, but is also gets better the better team you have. While Svarog-Yamaraja would be okay, it wouldn't be ideal. Still, with Belial beefing you up, she might be the best. Plus, can be Awakened, so you'll have a use for your Dragon Eyes if you get 3.
Mars has the -15 Fire Res debuff, so she's amazing.
... then there's also Uriel, who is amazing in her own right, but I don't know will she work without support. Her Awakening is a bit off too.

[sanahtlig]

I'd get Mars. I think she'll give you the biggest short-term boost since you already have Yamaraja.

[Meltdown]

Well 45k jewels, 32 premium, 5 kamihime and one SR ticket as well as the SSR weapon and miracle ticket 10 runs did not net me Cybele U as I hoped. It did muddy the water as to what to spend my ticket on now though. I was pretty certain I would get Light Tsuki since my light team really only needs her but I did draw Mars in my ticket binge. With some very lucky draws on the last SSR ticket I now have the following in my teams, I'm fairly certain I have any useful SR to buff them out

Fire - Acala, Amaterasu, Yamaraja, Mars (Grid isn't great, lack decent weapons)
Water - Shiva, Cthulthu, Posiden, Ryu-Oh (Grid is about 78% assault right now)
Wind - Cu Culaan, Odin, Gaia (awakened), Titania (awakened) (Grid over 100%)
Lightning - Tyr, Raiko, Brahma (Grid guessing about 40-50% but good weapons to build on unlike fire)
Dark - Satan, Amon (Unleashed) (Grid about same as lightning)
Light - Sol, Michael, Raphael, Metatron, Santa Satan, Eros (Just got grid to about 100%)

At this point I'm not sure where to focus for the immediate ticket. I'm pretty much resigned to going for all six elements in the long run and just focusing on a few to start in my case Wind, Light and then Water. With Mars I'll probably start to work on my fire grid but I'm not very happy with the grid options. I'm going to have to focus on the SR LMB weapons I have rather than continue to run up SSR's that only have one or two stars. What do others do for raising their weapons SL? I have been focusing mostly on whatever SSR LMB weapons I have (that are non-defender) with the assumption that I'll be using those weapons forever. Should I focus on the quicker leveling SR's first just to get the quick boost?

I'm thinking that Light Tsuki is still my best option but Water Raph or maybe even Sav to 'finish' my Fire team would work as well. Any ideas?

[AznSamsung]

Well 45k jewels, 32 premium, 5 kamihime and one SR ticket as well as the SSR weapon and miracle ticket 10 runs did not net me Cybele U as I hoped. It did muddy the water as to what to spend my ticket on now though. I was pretty certain I would get Light Tsuki since my light team really only needs her but I did draw Mars in my ticket binge. With some very lucky draws on the last SSR ticket I now have the following in my teams, I'm fairly certain I have any useful SR to buff them out

Fire - Acala, Amaterasu, Yamaraja, Mars (Grid isn't great, lack decent weapons)
Water - Shiva, Cthulthu, Posiden, Ryu-Oh (Grid is about 78% assault right now)
Wind - Cu Culaan, Odin, Gaia (awakened), Titania (awakened) (Grid over 100%)
Lightning - Tyr, Raiko, Brahma (Grid guessing about 40-50% but good weapons to build on unlike fire)
Dark - Satan, Amon (Unleashed) (Grid about same as lightning)
Light - Sol, Michael, Raphael, Metatron, Santa Satan, Eros (Just got grid to about 100%)

At this point I'm not sure where to focus for the immediate ticket. I'm pretty much resigned to going for all six elements in the long run and just focusing on a few to start in my case Wind, Light and then Water. With Mars I'll probably start to work on my fire grid but I'm not very happy with the grid options. I'm going to have to focus on the SR LMB weapons I have rather than continue to run up SSR's that only have one or two stars. What do others do for raising their weapons SL? I have been focusing mostly on whatever SSR LMB weapons I have (that are non-defender) with the assumption that I'll be using those weapons forever. Should I focus on the quicker leveling SR's first just to get the quick boost?

I'm thinking that Light Tsuki is still my best option but Water Raph or maybe even Sav to 'finish' my Fire team would work as well. Any ideas?

I find the guy who stole all my luck ... jks aside ...

Fire: svarog (no other choice as she is the best dps for fire team hands down with her atk buff)

Water: ssr nike or water rapah (ssr nike will be a better choice for healing and atk buff .... water rapah is ok but u will only replace dragon king with it)

Wind: sry no chance here ... ssr cybele is the answer aka next miracle

Thunder: same thing as wind no luck unit ramam come out (spelling error for name)

Light: like u said light tsuku ... no other choice i can think of

Dark: hades or orisis (atm keep amon is stronger than satan ... then satan replace ampn after aw ... then amon got buff to c frame ....)

[Laventale]

I find the guy who stole all my luck ... jks aside ...

Fire: svarog (no other choice as she is the best dps for fire team hands down with her atk buff)

Water: ssr nike or water rapah (ssr nike will be a better choice for healing and atk buff .... water rapah is ok but u will only replace dragon king with it)

Wind: sry no chance here ... ssr cybele is the answer aka next miracle

Thunder: same thing as wind no luck unit ramam come out (spelling error for name)

Light: like u said light tsuku ... no other choice i can think of

Dark: hades or orisis (atm keep amon is stronger than satan ... then satan replace ampn after aw ... then amon got buff to c frame ....)

He can pull Hastur (Wind) from the Miracle ticket, aside from that, he doesn't need that much else tbh.

[Meltdown]

He can pull Hastur (Wind) from the Miracle ticket, aside from that, he doesn't need that much else tbh.

Thank you both for the advice. I think I'll go for Light Tsuki just to finish off that bunch until SSR Arty comes up. I'm running a burst build with both Light and Wind right now so I'm guessing I'll be replacing either Sol or Eros with Tsuki. I was looking at Hastur but I'm not sure what exactly she brings to the table aside from an A frame att down? I'm sure it's better than Oberon but Oberon has both att and def down. Am I missing something in Hastur? Not getting Cybele rather sucked, I wanted her B frame pretty badly for that team. Oh well, at least I'm not going to have to ask what to get for the next Miracle ticket!

[Laventale]

Thank you both for the advice. I think I'll go for Light Tsuki just to finish off that bunch until SSR Arty comes up. I'm running a burst build with both Light and Wind right now so I'm guessing I'll be replacing either Sol or Eros with Tsuki. I was looking at Hastur but I'm not sure what exactly she brings to the table aside from an A frame att down? I'm sure it's better than Oberon but Oberon has both att and def down. Am I missing something in Hastur? Not getting Cybele rather sucked, I wanted her B frame pretty badly for that team. Oh well, at least I'm not going to have to ask what to get for the next Miracle ticket!

At least now you can pull D'art's relic without feeling remorse until the next miracle ticket or when you pull Cybele, what comes first.

[Slashley]

Water: ssr nike or water rapah (ssr nike will be a better choice for healing and atk buff .... water rapah is ok but u will only replace dragon king with it)Umm, I'm fairly sure that you bench Shiva and Poseidon. The latter can be quite alright if you ONLY use your Water team against Fire, but otherwise, these two are worse than Belphegor and Triton. As such, if he get Water Raphael he'd probably bench Shiva.
-- I was looking at Hastur but I'm not sure what exactly she brings to the table aside from an A frame att down? --Def Down. She has Def Down, not Atk Down. And because you can give her Accessories, she won't miss (as much as) Ambush does.
She also has a nuke without conditions, and the same skill as Arthur does, 20% Assault buff. While fairly meh, it's still more damage for the entire team. Overall, quite the solid package.

[Slimy]

Need advice on which SSR hime to pick for miracle ticket

Wind:
SSR: AW Gaia, Azazel
SR: Iblis

Water:
SSR: Nike, Cthulhu, Aphrodite
SR: Belphegor

Thunder:
SSR: Brahma,Thor

Light:
SRR: Rapheal, Sol
SR: Diana, Belobog R: Kamadeva

Currently Snow Rapheal looks like a good choice to round out water but since I already have Belephegor, I wasn't sure whether I should start investing in a secondary team eg Light Tsukuyomi for light or focus on water.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

[blubbergott]

Currently Snow Rapheal looks like a good choice to round out water but since I already have Belephegor, I wasn't sure whether I should start investing in a secondary team eg Light Tsukuyomi for light or focus on water.

Personally I'd go with Light Tsukuyomi, since she'll have a way bigger impact on your Light team than Snow Raphael will have on your Water team. With that you'd have a very nice control setup (Tsukuyomi, Sol, Raphael, Diana) that doesn't really require any upgrades until SSR Artemis comes. That recommendation is coming from a Light main though, so possibly biased.

[Cobblemaniac]

Personally I'd go with Light Tsukuyomi, since she'll have a way bigger impact on your Light team than Snow Raphael will have on your Water team. With that you'd have a very nice control setup (Tsukuyomi, Sol, Raphael, Diana) that doesn't really require any upgrades until SSR Artemis comes. That recommendation is coming from a Light main though, so possibly biased.

Additional stuff to add I guess. Honestly if you have enough jewels, I'd wait for another 3k roll if it fits nicely within the time frame of 2 weeks.

Snow Raphael not impacting the team... is not true IMO. Providing B frame debuff relieves you of the necessity of running D'Art without sacrificing 50% def break. While Belphegor does cover that pretty well, I'd take an extra orb removal gladly, as well as 2 turn 30% dmg mitigation, which just so happens to stack with Joan. Defensively, Snow Raphael kind of trashes Belphegor. That does give you the issue of damage, but the light and water teams look very defensive already anyway. I'm not discounting L Tsuku tho, but tbh I would be as equally torn in this situation.

[Yolodesu]

Additional stuff to add I guess. Honestly if you have enough jewels, I'd wait for another 3k roll if it fits nicely within the time frame of 2 weeks.

Snow Raphael not impacting the team... is not true IMO. Providing B frame debuff relieves you of the necessity of running D'Art without sacrificing 50% def break. While Belphegor does cover that pretty well, I'd take an extra orb removal gladly, as well as 2 turn 30% dmg mitigation, which just so happens to stack with Joan. Defensively, Snow Raphael kind of trashes Belphegor. That does give you the issue of damage, but the light and water teams look very defensive already anyway. I'm not discounting L Tsuku tho, but tbh I would be as equally torn in this situation.

He never said she would have no impact. But Light Tsuku will have a bigger impact for sure.

He wouldn't free his ex slot since he already has Belphegor, and while Raph would be an upgrade (especially because of her "oh crap" orb remover), Belphegor is a bit broken for a SR with her -30% rage bar, allowing you to bypass rage phase easily even if you're a bit low on damage.

Tsuku on the other hand is required for light to do damage atm. You need her, period.

@Slimy : i second Blubbergott. With Tsukuyomi, your light team alone will be able to clear the content until the end of the year (and tower event), assuming you lvlup your weapons grid completely, + accessory (4 light event coming in the next 2 month btw)
In the meantime you'll be able to gently lvlup your other teams., without needing to rush

Edit : Cobblemaniac's advice is still good to take though. You can wait a bit too see what you get with your next gacha pull before the ticket fades away. Or you can save your jewels for more important release. It's up to you

[Slashley]

Well, RNG is a cruel mistress. I failed to pull SSR Cybele as expected (I had roughly ~13% chance of her), but instead, I got three core SSR Hime. That's... new. I mean, I've pulled tons of just-barely-off-core Hime before, but very few actual cores (I think just Gaia and Raiko, questionably Thor and Ryu-Oh).

So, with Hastur, Amaterasu and Brahma joining my team, I am again so damn confused on what to get. So, typing this out to sort out my thoughts on what to do. Oh, using jargon Third Miracle Ticket (TMT) and Second Miracle Ticket (SMT) a lot here.

My options, roughly in order of my preference:

Wind
Notable Hime: Awakened Gaia, Titania, Hastur, Odin, Cybele, Zephyrus
Grid: 135%

I failed to get SSR Cybele, but thanks to pulling Hastur, my Wind is in a really, really good spot. As such, I'm just TMT away from having an extremely good Wind team. Sadly, since that needs to be SSR Cybele, I won't be able to get Seth for a long, long time.

So the problem is - what to do with this SMT? To have a full, PROPER team I'd need to get Cu Chulainn. Her guaranteed-triple skill is an extremely big asset for Burst Wind teams, and outclasses my unreliable, crappy Odin by far. However, using SMT on Cu Chulainn feels so... wrong. She's very one-dimensional and literally just there for her burst generation.

There's also the problem that I don't really like Wind's playstyle. Titania in particular requires so much babying it's annoying. As such, despite my Wind team being clearly the strongest, I doubt I'll commit my SMT to it. Odin is a crappy version of Cu Chulainn and kinda fulfills the same role, so my Wind team should be extremely good even if I only spend my TMT on it.


Fire
Notable Hime: Amaterasu, Ares, Acala, Yamaraja, Brynhildr
Grid: 122%

Ah, christ. After pulling Amaterasu, who truly is unbelievably good, I guess Fire is back into the Miracle Ticket fight. I am, however, still lacking THREE cores; Svarog, Uriel and Mars. Also, awakening my Ares is a possibility. Since I have six Eyes, that wouldn't stop me from getting Svarog either.

Svarog is just outright amazing, and I could Awaken her right away.
Since we supposedly have the buffed version of Uriel, she's great even before her Awakening.
Mars has her -15% Fire resistance, and Dispel.

If I'll go for Fire, I'm leaning towards Mars. This would mean that my teams would be:
SMT: Awakened Ares, Yamaraja/Brynhildr, Mars, Amaterasu
TMT: Awakened Ares, Awakened Svarog, Mars, Amaterasu
FMT: Ideal combination - depending on content - of Awakened Ares/Svarog/Uriel/Acala, Mars, Amaterasu. Well, Acala Awakening isn't quite in time for FMT I think, but still. My Fire team would be utterly ridiculous. As such, going for Fire on SMT would lock me into Fire route.

Water
Notable Hime: Ryu-Oh, Poseidon, Shiva, Triton, Belphegor
Grid: 150%

I really, really like Water. It's just plain fun.
The problem? I have zero cores. I'm lacking SSR Nike, Water Raphael AND Cthulhu. Originally, the plan was to get Cthulhu. But is that worth it, since the ideal combination of Water SSRs would take me all the time until FMT to reach...?

I... don't think so. But on the other hand, taking Cthulhu here would still leave my options open. As in, if I pick Water with SMT, I can decide which element to main with TMT, as Wind/Water/Thunder would all have amazing options.

Thunder
Notable Hime: Awakened Thor, Raiko, Brahma, Astraea, Pumpkin Artemis
Grid: 143%

Thunder has issues... but the good news is, since I have Brahma, I basically have all decent Thunder SSRs available in SMT. Thunder TMT is reserved for Mammon, clearly. So nothing here for now, will consider you during TMT, Mammon.

So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
What is a poor Slashley to do?

[Cobblemaniac]

Well, RNG is a cruel mistress. I failed to pull SSR Cybele as expected (I had roughly ~13% chance of her), but instead, I got three core SSR Hime. That's... new. I mean, I've pulled tons of just-barely-off-core Hime before, but very few actual cores (I think just Gaia and Raiko, questionably Thor and Ryu-Oh).

So, with Hastur, Amaterasu and Brahma joining my team, I am again so damn confused on what to get. So, typing this out to sort out my thoughts on what to do. Oh, using jargon Third Miracle Ticket (TMT) and Second Miracle Ticket (SMT) a lot here.

My options, roughly in order of my preference:

Wind
Notable Hime: Awakened Gaia, Titania, Hastur, Odin, Cybele, Zephyrus
Grid: 135%

I failed to get SSR Cybele, but thanks to pulling Hastur, my Wind is in a really, really good spot. As such, I'm just TMT away from having an extremely good Wind team. Sadly, since that needs to be SSR Cybele, I won't be able to get Seth for a long, long time.

So the problem is - what to do with this SMT? To have a full, PROPER team I'd need to get Cu Chulainn. Her guaranteed-triple skill is an extremely big asset for Burst Wind teams, and outclasses my unreliable, crappy Odin by far. However, using SMT on Cu Chulainn feels so... wrong. She's very one-dimensional and literally just there for her burst generation.

There's also the problem that I don't really like Wind's playstyle. Titania in particular requires so much babying it's annoying. As such, despite my Wind team being clearly the strongest, I doubt I'll commit my SMT to it. Odin is a crappy version of Cu Chulainn and kinda fulfills the same role, so my Wind team should be extremely good even if I only spend my TMT on it.


Fire
Notable Hime: Amaterasu, Ares, Acala, Yamaraja, Brynhildr
Grid: 122%

Ah, christ. After pulling Amaterasu, who truly is unbelievably good, I guess Fire is back into the Miracle Ticket fight. I am, however, still lacking THREE cores; Svarog, Uriel and Mars. Also, awakening my Ares is a possibility. Since I have six Eyes, that wouldn't stop me from getting Svarog either.

Svarog is just outright amazing, and I could Awaken her right away.
Since we supposedly have the buffed version of Uriel, she's great even before her Awakening.
Mars has her -15% Fire resistance, and Dispel.

If I'll go for Fire, I'm leaning towards Mars. This would mean that my teams would be:
SMT: Awakened Ares, Yamaraja/Brynhildr, Mars, Amaterasu
TMT: Awakened Ares, Awakened Svarog, Mars, Amaterasu
FMT: Ideal combination - depending on content - of Awakened Ares/Svarog/Uriel/Acala, Mars, Amaterasu. Well, Acala Awakening isn't quite in time for FMT I think, but still. My Fire team would be utterly ridiculous. As such, going for Fire on SMT would lock me into Fire route.

Water
Notable Hime: Ryu-Oh, Poseidon, Shiva, Triton, Belphegor
Grid: 150%

I really, really like Water. It's just plain fun.
The problem? I have zero cores. I'm lacking SSR Nike, Water Raphael AND Cthulhu. Originally, the plan was to get Cthulhu. But is that worth it, since the ideal combination of Water SSRs would take me all the time until FMT to reach...?

I... don't think so. But on the other hand, taking Cthulhu here would still leave my options open. As in, if I pick Water with SMT, I can decide which element to main with TMT, as Wind/Water/Thunder would all have amazing options.

Thunder
Notable Hime: Awakened Thor, Raiko, Brahma, Astraea, Pumpkin Artemis
Grid: 143%

Thunder has issues... but the good news is, since I have Brahma, I basically have all decent Thunder SSRs available in SMT. Thunder TMT is reserved for Mammon, clearly. So nothing here for now, will consider you during TMT, Mammon.

So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
What is a poor Slashley to do?

I would probably run Cthulhu to beef up your water team, if only to make your life easier when it comes to dealing with fire events.

[Marigold]

Basically everyone knows that I'm a sucker for Fire and at this time I would've gone for it if I were you; why? Because there's a higher chance of you getting one of the holy water trinity (even though you don't need Nike period) than Mars/Uriel 3/2

It's up to you but I wouldn't go for any Wind/Thunder that you'll end up replacing in the near future...

Oddly enough I didn't saw you quoting anything about the universal attributes that don't get a disadvantage off attribute, maybe those are better choices if you're lacking in any...

[QXZ]

So I guess ultimately, SMT for me is deciding whether to go Fire or Wind/Thunder/Water...
What is a poor Slashley to do?

i m not pro, but if i were u, i'd take Cthulhu or SSR Nike. i would still keep Wind as main but Water as a backup team to compliment eachother.

[Slashley]

Oddly enough I didn't saw you quoting anything about the universal attributes that don't get a disadvantage off attribute, maybe those are better choices if you're lacking in any...That's because my Light and Dark teams are miserable.

Dark is fine for SRs, but just doesn't function well in practice.
My Light team is Sol. With... Belebog. And... ... Artemis? ... ... yeah, no. There's no need for me to even consider building a Light team at this time.

[QXZ]

I feel that unless u pull the eido, it’s kinda late to go light when ur other elements r so far ahead

[AK01]

Hello, I'm planning to buy my first miracle ticket and is hoping someone got time to help me out. I've been playing the game at work for a while but never put time in to learn it until now and I'm not sure what element to main and which Kamihime to use my ticket on.

These are my Kamihime's:

Fire:
(SSR) None
(SR) Brynhildr, Amon, Agni, Motu, Ragaraja, Ceridwen, Kagutsuchi, Nataku
(R) Nergal, Baphomet, Ignis, Hestia, Dazbog, Rakshasa,Taikoubou, Zeruel

Water:
(SSR) Poseidon
(SR) Cupid, Parvati, Enkidu, Nodens, Oceanus, Nike
(R) Abzu, Ganges, Dagon, Oto-hime, Circe, Kushinada, Rusalka, Undine

Wind:
(SSR) Cybele
(SR) Krampus, Guan Yu, Iblis, Freja, Oberon, Cronus, Hermes, Cybele
(R) Orpheus, Vulthoom, Caspiel, Reginleiv, Scathach, Puck, Boreas, Zephyrus

Lightning:
(SSR) Jupiter
(SR) Psyche, Pumpkin Artemis, Krishna, Nemesis, Baal, Ramiel
(R) Cherubim, Skuld, Perun, Indra

Dark:
(SSR) None
(SR) Meretsenger, Lu Bu, Bastet, Pharol, Eligos, Tsukuyomi, Beelzebub
(R) Apep, Naberius, Mephistopheles, Astaroth

Light:
(SSR) Metatron, Sol
(SR) Uzume, Diana, Brynhildr, Uranus, Belobog, Artemis
(R) Perun, Inanna, Dike, Orpheus, Urania

Any advice / suggestions would be very much appriciated.

[blubbergott]

Hello, I'm planning to buy my first miracle ticket and is hoping someone got time to help me out. I've been playing the game at work for a while but never put time in to learn it until now and I'm not sure what element to main and which Kamihime to use my ticket on.

Guess it's between Light and Wind for you. For both you have 1 core KH and all the notable SRs. For Light the best choice would be Tsukuyomi for sure. Advantage of playing Light as main element is that you don't have any elemental disadvantage and Sol, Tsukuyomi, Diana, Belobog is a team that can beat absolutely anything the game currently has to offer with the right grid (it's the exact setup i use for R4 accessories and those are a breeze with it). If you want more damage, you can still swap Belobog with Metatron.

Alternatively Wind: You got Cybele and Oberon, which are both very nice to have. Decent picks would probably be Titania (great synergy with Cybele) or Hastur (although Oberon covers Def down somewhat anyways, so I'd go with Titania).

Wind team would be pretty good, I'd personally still go with Light. My personal recommendation therefore would be: get Tsuku, max out your light grid and once you can clear everything you can start branching out to other elements. At least that worked very well for me. :)

[QXZ]

@AK01,

both ur light and wind teams are equally viable to build from. i suggest you pick one based on your preferred play style.

if you like it versatile and steady, go with Light and get LTsukuyomi and if you want fast paced action, go Wind and pick Titania.

also, if you don't plan on getting future miracle tickets, then you should go Wind, as getting Light himes can be pretty hard.

[Marigold]

That's because my Light and Dark teams are miserable.

Dark is fine for SRs, but just doesn't function well in practice.
My Light team is Sol. With... Belebog. And... ... Artemis? ... ... yeah, no. There's no need for me to even consider building a Light team at this time.

I'm gonna make a bold statement and guess that you either run Lu Bu + any SSR Debuffer and an EX for Debuffs or Lu Bu + Double Soul Debuffs, (maybe Nyarlatothep?)
That alone hinders you by Debuff %, the only way Lu Bu is feasible in an end game build is without Nyarlatothep (Since we're getting that C Frame Debuffer 35% now +15 then is enough) but as it stands currently the only sustainable way with it is with Amon Unleashed (-25 Def A Frame) and optimally running Vine for long content, but even then optimally you'll end up getting off by 20% Attack with Nyarlatothep and 15% with Hades or Trial by Jury...
That alone leaves up a lot to be desired, but then you realize that the healer Dark has is inferior to most element staple healers in Osiris and that hinders Dark even more and that's dismissing Black Propaganda, granted Dark has Beelzebub, yes but is that enough to counter all of this mentioned before?
To make Dark "good" you need two core SSR and to make it meta you need NY Amaterasu...

About Light, you have Belobog so there's no need for Raphael unless you really want that Orb Removal, Rage Down and Dizzy, Light Tsukuyomi would help you a lot but that would leave you in the same predicament you have on Fire with Mars but with a weaker attribute (Grid-Wise and Kamihime-Wise).
But then again a healthy end game account should have it's elements balanced and even if little by little a change needs to start eventually.

[AK01]

Think I'll go with Light then since I got better weapons for it as well. Thanks for your help! :grin:

[Sora]

Think I'll go with Light then since I got better weapons for it as well. Thanks for your help! :grin:

WELL, the next event will you give some good light weapons :)

[magicpea]

Should I choose Dakki or Mars? with Miracle both seem sexy

[Laventale]

Should I choose Mars or Mars? with Miracle both seem sexy

Fixed.

Go for Mars.

[magicpea]

Could you please clarified a bit why Mars is better choice? Thanks.:wink:

[Laventale]

Could you please clarified a bit why Mars is better choice? Thanks.:wink:

You should first tell us about your current Fire line-up.

Either way, there isn't a single person who wouldn't choose Mars over Daji.

[magicpea]

Um Sorry.Currently I use.

Uriel/Ama/AW Svarog/Ares/ --Sub/Yama/Ascala

Mainly use for Wind raid But wind is Hard to Dbuff ,So I kinda wonder why people like Mars more than Dakki since her fire dbuff would alway miss in Wind raid.:kiss::kiss:

[BlazeAlter]

Um Sorry.Currently I use.

Uriel/Ama/AW Svarog/Ares/ --Sub/Yama/Ascala

Mainly use for Wind raid But wind is Hard to Dbuff ,So I kinda wonder why people like Mars more than Dakki since her fire dbuff would alway miss in Wind raid.:kiss::kiss:

um, im sure this is obvious but you do know thats not the only wind type boss you can fight against right? lol
Mars would be very nice to have against wind type event bosses

(Just my opinion, I'm not even maining fire but I know that Mars is a very nice addition)

[magicpea]

Yeh you right Mars is good for over all. But my main is not fire ,So I can take care of other ele with my main. since my Ticket choice left is Mars/Dakki/Neph/Shamas(and I hate light)

[Laventale]

Um Sorry.Currently I use.

Uriel/Ama/AW Svarog/Ares/ --Sub/Yama/Ascala

Mainly use for Wind raid But wind is Hard to Dbuff ,So I kinda wonder why people like Mars more than Dakki since her fire dbuff would alway miss in Wind raid.:kiss::kiss:

My main question is why do you have both Ares and Uriel on the main team while they perform almost the same exact role (AKA Bursting).
You should definitely pull Mars, as you have buffs up your ass, but need debuffs (more than Amaterasu, ofc).

[magicpea]

Well Uriel is my life my sun,She too cute to left out and Ares is better than Ascala and yama when I doing Wind Rag.:love::love:

[Ikki]

Should I choose Dakki or Mars? with Miracle both seem sexy

Mars, tixing a hime only for early wind rag farming when later on shes not even needed is dumb (Fire Kaiser -> rip dakki job), without mars your fire team will do no dmg outside of wind rag.

[magicpea]

Mars, tixing a hime only for early wind rag farming when later on shes not even needed is dumb (Fire Kaiser -> rip dakki job), without mars your fire team will do no dmg outside of wind rag.


OK I got what I want to know Thank You SIR.:kiss::kiss::kiss:Your a life saver

[didimelo100]

Hello guys! I'm a bit indecisive about what kami should i get from the miracle ticket since i got Light Tsukuyomi from the gacha (plus Svarog on the same roll). I'm main light and already have Sol.
Currently my light team is composed of: Michael, Diana, Sol and Light Tsukuyomi. Should i get Eros and replace Michael? Is Eros worth the ticket?
I have the possibility of compose a Fire team with Ares and Svarog plus a miracle ticket Kami (Amaterasu maybe?)
Or compose a Water team with Cthulhu, Nike Unleashed, Aphrodite and choose another water Kami?

[Laventale]

Hello guys! I'm a bit indecisive about what kami should i get from the miracle ticket since i got Light Tsukuyomi from the gacha (plus Svarog on the same roll). I'm main light and already have Sol.
Currently my light team is composed of: Michael, Diana, Sol and Light Tsukuyomi. Should i get Eros and replace Michael? Is Eros worth the ticket?
I have the possibility of compose a Fire team with Ares and Svarog plus a miracle ticket Kami (Amaterasu maybe?)
Or compose a Water team with Cthulhu, Nike Unleashed, Aphrodite and choose another water Kami?

Go for Mars, your Light team is good as it is. Plus there's a good chunk of Fire events coming up, so you can update and make your Fire weapon grid better.

[Aidoru]

If light is your main team then stick with it. Unless you're spending to help improve a team that'll help improve your main team (dark team to farm light stuff from future light content), then there's not much reason to use a miracle ticket on a side team unless your main is completely perfect and I don't see dark team mentioned in your list so they're probably not worth spending on. There's not really any point in going hard at strengthening your side teams when your light team can pretty much clear all content.

Unless it's a personal preference, but then there'd be no reason to ask for suggestions in the first place.

[didimelo100]

Thanks for your suggestions guys! My dark team is composed of Satan, Nyarlatotep, Beelzebub and Balor. I couldn't get Dark Amaterasu and Lu Bu so i'm tied to Sniper shot however.

[QXZ]

your dark team is worth investing into. go for Hades or Osiris.

[Tanaka5]

Hello guys! I'm a bit indecisive about what kami should i get from the miracle ticket since i got Light Tsukuyomi from the gacha (plus Svarog on the same roll). I'm main light and already have Sol.
Currently my light team is composed of: Michael, Diana, Sol and Light Tsukuyomi. Should i get Eros and replace Michael? Is Eros worth the ticket?
I have the possibility of compose a Fire team with Ares and Svarog plus a miracle ticket Kami (Amaterasu maybe?)
Or compose a Water team with Cthulhu, Nike Unleashed, Aphrodite and choose another water Kami?


First things first. Your Light team is good as is and unless you are a dedicated Light lord with an excellent grid, there is no point in using Miracle Ticket for another Light Hime. Diana covers A frame (15%) for now while Tsuku has Light resist down (15%) and your soul covering the B frame with Sniper Shot (20%), help you reach debuff cap.

Besides, Light gets some strong additions which introduce an offensive style in SSArtemis and later on with Michael's Awakening (refer Bear's guide for more info).

To be honest, your Dark team just has Satan and dark gets some great himes ahead especially Pluto. I wouldn't suggest investing in Dark at the moment.

Your water team looks solid and I suggest waiting for Ashirat during next Miracle Ticket if you wish to improve water.

For now, I would suggest looking to improve fire so you have atleast 3 strong elements. You have DPS in Svarog and Ares and both are Awakenable (Ares incoming with next event). But you are lacking debuffs and utility outside that. I would suggest using your Miracle Ticket on Mars since she is core for fire. She has a good buff and helps you reach debuff cap with her Fire resist down debuff. Also against bosses like Wind Rags, even if she can't debuff, that same ability becomes a 6.5x multiplier nuke. Lastly she has a Dispel as well.
All you are lacking for your fire team is Mars and Amaterasu and I feel Mars is more important at the moment.

In the end, that's just a suggestion. If you feel you don't wish to invest in fire and improve elsewhere, it's your call.

[didimelo100]

Thanks everyone, helped a lot! You guys pointed some things that i didn't think about and helped in my decision. Many thanks!

[Unregistered]

Titania vs Gaia.

I'm a new player with Cybele SSR. Not sure what to add to my wind team (I only have a wind team). Both seem like good candidates but my thinking is that Gaia is better if I am only going to have 1 element (for versatility). Titania has good synergy with Cybele though, so I'm not sure.

[Laventale]

Titania vs Gaia.

I'm a new player with Cybele SSR. Not sure what to add to my wind team (I only have a wind team). Both seem like good candidates but my thinking is that Gaia is better if I am only going to have 1 element (for versatility). Titania has good synergy with Cybele though, so I'm not sure.

The fact is, you want to play Aggression or Defense?

If you're gonna build a full burst line-up, go for Titania. If you want a defensive line-up, go for Gaia.

Either way, you also need Hastur.

[QXZ]

go Titania. she combos very well with ur Cybele SSR. also dmg helps u farm up faster than gaia.

[AznSamsung]

Anyone know wat month is the next miracle ticket come out

[QXZ]

july or august 2018

[Laventale]

Anyone know wat month is the next miracle ticket come out

Always jump 4 months ahead. So at the end of July - Start/Mid August.

[Unregistered]

Hey guys. I already asked befor but i better ask again. Which hime should i get for my fire team?


SSR: None
SSR: Amon; Raguel; Nataku ; Ragaraja
R: Rakshasa; Nergal; Ignis ; Dazbog

Eidolon: Belial


Would get Amaterasu but someone in another thread said that she maybe is not the best pick.

What do you think?

[Marigold]

Either Amaterasu or Mars, they're Fire's core followed by Svarog

[Slashley]

Agreed. With Belial, you shouldn't be looking anywhere else.

[Unregistered]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

[BlazeAlter]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

Wait... you don't have any SSRs for that team?
usually most ppl recommend that you use miracle tickets for a team of urs that has a core SSR or something..

But well unless you're serious in maining dark...
imo these himes are a good start for dark
Hades = atk down debuff 20% w/ def up +affliction block for the entire team plus can be awakened later (gains combo atk rate down and some other stuff)
Amon = 25% def down debuff, has good raging nuke and an extend stun that is handy in some certain fights (like advent ragnaroks or accessory quests perhaps) She will also get buffed in the future (her A frame def down turns to C frame and is no longer single target, plus she gains a light atk down on her curse which can help reach 50% atk debuff cap for light enemies, and her raging nuke turns 7-7.5x which also gets reduced to 6CD only)
Satan = 15% A frame def down, self combo atk rate buff and overdrive reduction (not good right now, but when she gets awakened she becomes better, +10 dark RST to her def debuff which makes her better)
Osiris = Dark's only SSR healer right now, can heal for 1100 +15 burst gauge and can last long because of her self nullify buff
Although I don't really recommend her to you right now because you don't have any of the ones I said above...

So i think in my opinion you should either go Amon if u want to do more damage (and she'll get better in the really long run, go Satan if you can't wait that long since her awakening is in august i think), or Hades if you want a stronger atk debuff and an ability that can block debuffs from bosses once every 8T (and her awakening is also kinda close, around june)
But if you really want a healer, you could probably go Osiris but that means you'll be stuck on 30 atk/30 def debuff (judging by ur team's nyarlathotep/lu bu) unless you have vine and yatagarasu

...Whats your usual dark team setup and which soul are you using though? (and what ex skill)

[Unregistered]

thanks for answer Blazerai

I dont realy have core SSR for any team so i simply go with element i like.

I run with casiopeia for heal i defense. ex skil it depends but mostly Black Propaganda. For himes i simply run the SR ones without eligos because she dosent have any buffs or debufs.

I dont think osiris is that great. I rather focus on debuffs wich means one of the other three. Also how does extentiding stun ability amon has works with nyarlathotep ability. Does this stack or what?
Also sorry for my poor english

[BlazeAlter]

thanks for answer Blazerai

I dont realy have core SSR for any team so i simply go with element i like.

I run with casiopeia for heal i defense. ex skil it depends but mostly Black Propaganda. For himes i simply run the SR ones without eligos because she dosent have any buffs or debufs.

I dont think osiris is that great. I rather focus on debuffs wich means one of the other three. Also how does extentiding stun ability amon has works with nyarlathotep ability. Does this stack or what?
Also sorry for my poor english

Ah, I thought u ran mordred lol. nvm (Why I recommended Osiris, didn't know ur soul was ur healer already)
I still think Osiris +15 burst gauge is quite handy though.. but yeah you probably don't need her right now

I was in a situation once where one of my members got incapacitated and nyarlathotep subbed in, i used amon's first and i think that usually lasts 4-5 turns depending on what fight ur doing, and i used nyarl's next and only 1 stack of stun got added in (and i think it only gave me 1-2 extra turns)
I don't recommend doing that though, if you decide to get Amon, you should probably put nyarlathotep on sub or take her out
I mean you can probably run her, but her only use would be the atk down, and that's about it.

lets say you decided to go use a team that is composed of Cassiopeia with BP/Lu Bu/Bastet/Nyarlathotep/Amon
your debuffs would be at 30atk/40def (you would be 40atk/50def if you have both yatagarasu and vine)

If you went with satan you'd still be stuck with 30/30 debuff for the time being until she gets awakened

If you decide to get Hades, and you went with the same team
your debuffs would be 35atk/30def (45/40 if you have yata and vine)

So overall I think you might want to pick Amon or Satan for the time being since they would increase your damage output

[Unregistered]

yeah i thought that those abilites dont synergize with each other. Consdering everything i probably go with Satan but i stlil have some time to think about it. Thanks again for you insightful input.

[Tanaka5]

Hey guys. I already asked befor but i better ask again. Which hime should i get for my fire team?


SSR: None
SSR: Amon; Raguel; Nataku ; Ragaraja
R: Rakshasa; Nergal; Ignis ; Dazbog

Eidolon: Belial


Would get Amaterasu but someone in another thread said that she maybe is not the best pick.

What do you think?

Honestly Svarog is the best option. She is the most core fire hime who is great in pretty much all circumstances. Followed by Mars. Amaterasu in some situations may not be that great. She is considered core mainly because of the B frame debuff. However aside from Wind Rags (Catastrophes), there will be more non-debuff friendly content if you wish to throw fire at them.

Mars is still more useful because her ability is an elemental resist down and also acts as a Mini VoF. Against Wind Rags or any wind opponent, it becomes a 6.5x nuke.

If you had Konohana Sakuya (R) or Hephaestus (SR), it would make it much easier. I’d suggest going for either Mars or Svarog. If you’re going to invest in this Miracle Ticket and the next, make sure you grab these 2 first. You can go for Svarog now for the raw power in case you have the Mats to AW her while hoping to get Sakuya or Heph for debuffs for whenever you roll with Jewels.

[Slashley]

-- She is considered core mainly because of the B frame debuff. --And her Blind. And her Heals, despite being sub-par (Brynhildr heals for more for example).
Amaterasu is basically what completes Fire - she has what Fire sorely lacks otherwise. For a new player looking to farm Accessory Quests for example, I'm fairly sure that Amaterasu will make that far, far easier than what Svarog and Mars will.

Of course, this depends on content. Against high debuff resistance, much of Amaterasu's use is lost. Unlike Svarog, who doesn't give a shit about debuff resistance.

[Tanaka5]

And her Blind. And her Heals, despite being sub-par (Brynhildr heals for more for example).
Amaterasu is basically what completes Fire - she has what Fire sorely lacks otherwise. For a new player looking to farm Accessory Quests for example, I'm fairly sure that Amaterasu will make that far, far easier than what Svarog and Mars will.

Of course, this depends on content. Against high debuff resistance, much of Amaterasu's use is lost. Unlike Svarog, who doesn't give a shit about debuff resistance.

My bad I forgot the blind (which is arguably the most important part of her kit alongside the B frame). Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.

Amaterasu's core function is that of a utility Hime in the fire team and she will be important always. But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets. Being a Fire main myself, not having Svarog for a month until I used Miracle Ticket, and Ares/Uriel (who I still don't have) while having all other Himes still hurt because my Damage wasn't at the same level as others.

Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.

[QXZ]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

you should reroll your account until u get a good SSR hime or one of the 100% eidos

[Unregistered]

-- Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.Regen are Heals too~
And uh, no. Def up is rather crappy, and certainly not the main use.
30% Def sounds impressive, but isn't the same as damage cut. It is significantly worse. Considering uptime, you'd probably be better off bringing Baphomet for her -10% Atk debuff. Are you going to? No, no you won't. With her skillset, you wouldn't bring her even if she was SSR.
-- But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets.--While true, all the damage in the world won't matter if you're not alive. For example in Advent Ragnaroks, you're going to need to survive a couple of turns before and after at least one Overdrive, before you can Full Burst to end the fight. Neither Svarog nor Mars will help you accomplish that, although they do make the fight significantly shorter overall.
Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.They can do both, though. And they should. Getting Atk+, Dbl+ or Affliction Rs will boost a new player by a fair bit.

And the sooner they can do R3s, the sooner they get access to SR Accessories. Which are usually complete garbage, but at least they're great fodder. With someone like Amaterasu helping you get past Wave1, you should be able to clear Accessory Quests much faster.

I suppose we agree to disagree?
-- Slashley

[Unregistered]

Been playing for a couple weeks, and I decided to reroll for a 100% eidolon. Ended up with two decent accounts that I've been leveling/throwing jewel rolls into but I'm running out of time to pick one for a miracle ticket. Any advice is appreciated

Option 1:
SSR Kamihime: Odin, Poseidon, Thor.
SSR Eidolons: Hraesvelger

Option 2:
SSR Kamihime: Ryu-Oh, Snow Raphael, Nephthys, Yamaraja, Jupiter.
SSR Eidolons: Hraesvelger


My thoughts on the matter:
Option one has Odin, giving me a head start on a wind team which is what all my subsequent tickets would be going towards anyway. Odin isn't a core element though, so would eventually be replaced by a better hime reducing her long-term value. I'll need a back up water team for fire events and poseidons fire resist skill will be good there but that brings me to option two...

Option two has a really solid base for a water team, like, wow. I wouldn't be able to miracle ticket for c'thulu before I die of old age but I think even without her the duo of ryu-oh/raphael is pretty strong. It also has more SSRs in general although the other three himes don't seem that great.

I've read some guides but I'm still pretty new so I wanted to ask...What do you guys think?

[Slashley]

Odin is really crappy due to her self-Def down. She works okay with Titania who can counter that problem, and can be an okay replacement for Cu Chulainn... so normally, I'd say that your reroll is amazing and you should go for it.

But, what the fuck is up with your second account? That's just a load of horsecock sir. How in the bloody blazes did you get that many SSRs through rerolling? Just how many times did you reroll?!? To have 6/20 slots happen to be 3% chance... that's 1/50897 chance, I believe...
Well, I guess if you've been playing both accounts for a while, I guess it's more than just the first 6000 Jewels. Anyway, with Ryu-Oh and Snow Raphael, you can cover four of the most important debuffs. Which is just perfect for you to handle Fire events, as you need to main Wind. At least, that's what I think. Despite having an amazing Water team to start with, the P2W Wind Eidolon is just that strong.

You too should probably pick Hastur for your second account. It'll be a long road for your perfect Wind team, the next Miracle Ticket should absolutely be spent on SSR Cybele. The one after that... well, that's so far away it's hard to tell. It'll depend on your preferences.
EDIT: Oh, this isn't in the same thread as the other guy who is roughly the same spot as you are.
By "too", I meant this. (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/4421-updated-kamihime-project-rerolling-guide-intermediate-players-5.html#post113562)

[QXZ]

definitely pick Option 2, because in addition to your Wind Team, your backup Water Team is also ready.

if you are lucky, u can have Rudra in a few weeks from Gacha, at which point you can choose to main Water or Wind, or both.

[Aidoru]

The nice thing about Hraesvelger is that she will forever be your main wind eidolon and has a ridiculous -20% def down effect, which is extremely strong. But you also need to look at dealing with elemental disadvantage, meaning you'll most likely use a water team to deal with fire related stuff than your wind team, making your 2nd option much better in backing up your wind team since it already has 2 good water SSRs. Odin isn't particularly useful as already mentioned.

Wind also has one of the easiest starting set up to use thanks to SR Cybele and R Zephyrus. With Joan, you can already hit -50% atk down. With Ambush as a ex skill and Hraevelger, you'll also hit -50% def down. Grabbing Hastur would free you from using Ambush for whatever you ex skill you want.

[Unregistered]

Odin is really crappy due to her self-Def down. She works okay with Titania who can counter that problem, and can be an okay replacement for Cu Chulainn... so normally, I'd say that your reroll is amazing and you should go for it.

But, what the fuck is up with your second account? That's just a load of horsecock sir. How in the bloody blazes did you get that many SSRs through rerolling? Just how many times did you reroll?!? To have 6/20 slots happen to be 3% chance... that's 1/50897 chance, I believe...
Well, I guess if you've been playing both accounts for a while, I guess it's more than just the first 6000 Jewels. Anyway, with Ryu-Oh and Snow Raphael, you can cover four of the most important debuffs. Which is just perfect for you to handle Fire events, as you need to main Wind. At least, that's what I think. Despite having an amazing Water team to start with, the P2W Wind Eidolon is just that strong.

You too should probably pick Hastur for your second account. It'll be a long road for your perfect Wind team, the next Miracle Ticket should absolutely be spent on SSR Cybele. The one after that... well, that's so far away it's hard to tell. It'll depend on your preferences.
EDIT: Oh, this isn't in the same thread as the other guy who is roughly the same spot as you are.
By "too", I meant

Definitely lucky, although the initial account only had the Eidolon, Ryu-oh, and Yamaraja. The others came through jewels/gacha tickets from questing/Barong. (Still, getting that many SSRs with only 3-4 extra rolls is pretty crazy now that I think about it)

Thanks for the help, I'll grab Hastur and Cybele on the next ticket.

[Khinks]

I'm still learning the game but I'm pretty sure I'll be building a core dark team. These are the current SSR Himes I have

Fire: Uriel
Water: Ryu-Oh
Thunder: Tyr
Wind: Gaia
Light: No light only darkness
Dark: Thanatos+Hades

Is Sol the best pick for me? Or is there a better choice? Thanks!

[Aidoru]

I'm still learning the game but I'm pretty sure I'll be building a core dark team. These are the current SSR Himes I have

Fire: Uriel
Water: Ryu-Oh
Thunder: Tyr
Wind: Gaia
Light: No light only darkness
Dark: Thanatos+Hades

Is Sol the best pick for me? Or is there a better choice? Thanks!

No point in getting Sol if you're planning to focus dark. Dark is kind of in a weird spot right now but you'll want either Amon Unleashed or Satan for their a-frame def down debuff. Osiris is even an option if you really really want a healer but she's not the highest priority.

It's pretty weird but right now, Amon has a stronger debuff than Satan but Satan will get an awakening which will make her better than Amon but there will be an update that'll makes changes to Amon making her debuff work with Satan but end up clashing with Thanatos. The latter won't be for another year or so though.

Personally, I'd go with Satan because her overdrive reduction helps a lot and she won't end up clashing with your Thanatos in the far future. Satan's awakening should be in like 4 months? Hades in 2.

[Unregistered]

Definitely lucky, although the initial account only had the Eidolon, Ryu-oh, and Yamaraja. The others came through jewels/gacha tickets from questing/Barong. (Still, getting that many SSRs with only 3-4 extra rolls is pretty crazy now that I think about it)

Thanks for the help, I'll grab Hastur and Cybele on the next ticket.

If you're not going to play on your other account, could I have it? :)
I've been rerolling for Hraesvelger for forever with no luck. I could keep the account active for support eidolon for you.

[NuckFutaku]

If you're not going to play on your other account, could I have it? :)
I've been rerolling for Hraesvelger for forever with no luck. I could keep the account active for support eidolon for you.

Oops forgot to log in, this is me.

[NotRegistered]

Oops forgot to log in, this is me.

Sent you a PM

[Khinks]

No point in getting Sol if you're planning to focus dark. Dark is kind of in a weird spot right now but you'll want either Amon Unleashed or Satan for their a-frame def down debuff. Osiris is even an option if you really really want a healer but she's not the highest priority.

It's pretty weird but right now, Amon has a stronger debuff than Satan but Satan will get an awakening which will make her better than Amon but there will be an update that'll makes changes to Amon making her debuff work with Satan but end up clashing with Thanatos. The latter won't be for another year or so though.

Personally, I'd go with Satan because her overdrive reduction helps a lot and she won't end up clashing with your Thanatos in the far future. Satan's awakening should be in like 4 months? Hades in 2.

erm.... So i just pulled Satan from a gacha ticket. Now who do i pick?

[Aidoru]

erm.... So i just pulled Satan from a gacha ticket. Now who do i pick?

Lol, awesome luck you got. I'd go for Osiris for the heals so you're not forced to use Cassiopeia/Andromeda as your soul for some content. It'll be a very long time til Amon get's her changes and there'll probably be several more ticket chances by then to get her if you ever wanted to. Right now having Amon and Satan together is a bit of a waste anyways.

Satan, Hades, Thanatos and Osiris is a very solid dark team. You'll need Sniper Shot on whatever soul you pick though.

If you don't feel like you'll need the heals, you can just grab anyone, none of the other current dark SSRs provide any essentials other than damage.

[LeCrestfallen]

if you only knew what else he did pull in those 3 days ....

[Unregistered]

Im new to this game and rerolled till I got the 100 wind eido. My current team wind kamihime are

SSR:Gaia(got from miracle ticket)

SR: Cybele , Ramiel , freja

R: puck , caspiel ,orpheus , zephyrus and scathach

Other SSR: thor and nike unleashed

What is the best team I can form with these kamihime?

[Slashley]

Gaia and Freja have synergy with the whole Guard+Intercept thing. And you'll probably always want Cybele for the B debuff.

The last one can be whatever. Need heals? Nike. Scathach has a Def debuff, it's weak but sometimes you need that. Zephyrus has weak heals and a really powerful Atk debuff (Zeph + Cybele + Joan = half damage taken). Puck has further synergy with the Guard+Intercept+Berserk combo.

[Unregistered]

Thank you for the advise!

[Cobblemaniac]

My account: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KuWSqO2SIKXUkmQkEwyKcLL7qYoz98ejzxtv4trqgbY/edit?usp=sharing

Alright, some self analysis, which is gonna be really short considering I don't have much to say...

Only have 2 elements actually working so far: water and light. No cores for other elements except for maybe Gaia and Raiko, but "don't main thunder unless you have Kirin and are a masochist" applies here.

Water is my strongest so far, will simply require Cthulhu to fill in the holy trinity of water, I doubt there's much argument needed in that department.

Light would be the second contender... I could yank Light Tsuku from miracle to beef my all-rounding element... but I'm not sure how much benefit that would be in comparison to simply pulling Cthulhu.

That said, I'm waiting for the time Ashirat and Rudra rolls out before I pull my miracle ticket (well... I hope it comes out before the 24th), with a 100 rolls saved up. I might probably update on what I've pulled then, but currently, what's the jury on my miracle?

[Laventale]

3 days for the Miracle Ticket to go away.

Buy it if you haven't already.


My account: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KuWSqO2SIKXUkmQkEwyKcLL7qYoz98ejzxtv4trqgbY/edit?usp=sharing

Alright, some self analysis, which is gonna be really short considering I don't have much to say...

Only have 2 elements actually working so far: water and light. No cores for other elements except for maybe Gaia and Raiko, but "don't main thunder unless you have Kirin and are a masochist" applies here.

Water is my strongest so far, will simply require Cthulhu to fill in the holy trinity of water, I doubt there's much argument needed in that department.

Light would be the second contender... I could yank Light Tsuku from miracle to beef my all-rounding element... but I'm not sure how much benefit that would be in comparison to simply pulling Cthulhu.

That said, I'm waiting for the time Ashirat and Rudra rolls out before I pull my miracle ticket (well... I hope it comes out before the 24th), with a 100 rolls saved up. I might probably update on what I've pulled then, but currently, what's the jury on my miracle?

Light seems pretty meta for me going forwards with what's happening with DMM's KamiPro.

While Cthulhu is BREDDY GUD, Light Tsuku might as well tell you "Hey, my Light Team is pretty dope and can clear any content with ease".

While it's not an easy decision, I bet Light is the most logical answer here.

[Cobblemaniac]

3 days for the Miracle Ticket to go away.

Ah... I meant expire. I bought it already and it's just sitting in my inventory :bgrin:

[Laventale]

Ah... I meant expire. I bought it already and it's just sitting in my inventory :bgrin:

It was a PSA more than anything, for anyone that didn't buy it yet.

[nonsensei]

Light seems pretty meta for me going forwards with what's happening with DMM's KamiPro.

While Cthulhu is BREDDY GUD, Light Tsuku might as well tell you "Hey, my Light Team is pretty dope and can clear any content with ease".

While it's not an easy decision, I bet Light is the most logical answer here.

That logic applies to water as well. Light will stay the survival element for quite a good while until Michael AW arrives. Water is also pretty consistent in clearing content, too. Probably their biggest disadvantage to light is that they don't have elemental resist down debuff for quite a good while (around 10 months), so you'd need VoF to have a decent aim off-element a̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶b̶r̶e̶a̶k̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶C̶t̶h̶u̶l̶h̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶i̶m̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶c̶h̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶t̶o̶r̶m̶ ̶t̶r̶o̶o̶p̶e̶r̶'̶s̶.
@Cobblemaniac What actually makes me rather vote for Cthulhu is the lack of Diana & without her, you can't reach 50% def debuff, what's more, you're stuck with Mordred if you wanna maximize def debuffs (that would be 45% with Ambush EX) unless you want to use lol Gawain. And no, I'm not considering hero weapons yet coz light rag will probably be released in July, and then you have to start farming for it. Even if I did, ideally you wanna bring Hercules(Shingen burst buff EX) & let your himes do the debuffing. And water will do that for you with Cthulhu, unlike light with Tsuku.

[Marigold]

That logic applies to water as well. Light will stay the survival element for quite a good while until Michael AW arrives.

Can you tell me what does Michael Awakened do in relation with Vanilla Michael? I can't rely on Google translate for not being a weeb

[nonsensei]

Can you tell me what does Michael Awakened do in relation with Vanilla Michael? I can't rely on Google translate for not being a weeb

Ability 1: AoE dmg+applies (damn effective) partywide DA for 5t - CD 7t
Ability 2: Partywide 20 BG+100% burst buff (added to the already existing multiplier)+30% burst limit break - CD 7t
Ability 3: 20%(?) light elemental buff + 25% dark dmg cut - CD 6t (instead of the previous 8t)
Burst: Partywide 20 BG

P.S.: I got most of the info from google translated wiki, myself. Ain't that hard if you check the details at the lower section.

[Tao]

So i just bought the miracle ticket and thinking on which kami i should spend on it.

Main team Dark : SSR Amon , Hades , Susanoo then Sr and R' ones

Fire : Uriel , Yama (Bryndhilr) and recently got LTsukuyomi for light.

Was thinking about Osiris but she dont appeal to me that much, on the other side Thana is good now but for the long run will overlap with Amon and Satan other way so maybe Sol instead of

Osiris ? + i'll have a nice combo if i built Light with LTsu. Or Mars or any good fire hime and start main fire... I cant decide

[Kitty]

get Sol.
you have LTsuku, who is the top priority light hime. Next in line would be Sol, she's perfect for any team too, can be useful to dark if needed, moreso than Osiris, other than the fact that she's off-element. good for thunder/wind as they don't have a SSR healer (yet)
Plus, Sol gets her awakening next month and becomes fucking crazy OP.
Osiris is under powered for a SSR, she really needs an awakening in DMM...
Thanatos can't be chosen w/ miracle ticket (Amon U 25% DEF debuff becomes C-frame in a future update a year away.)
Though Satan will get her awakening in a few months and have more debuffs(dark resist down to enemy.)

but... well, Sol sounds like the best option.

[Tao]

Just when i was going to take Osiris buts still hesitate with Sol came here to check a last time if any repply aha ... Thanks you helped me out a lot !

[Mirage]

While Sol is certainly more useful in the long term, Osiris might be a better pick for u now coz with her u would have a pretty well-balanced Dark team to clear most early content. A L Tsuku+Sol team will not be as useful early on as your 4 SSR Dark.


Osiris is under powered for a SSR
No she is not, at least not on Ea level. Many ppl think so coz they use her as a hardcore healer and hold on to her heal while it should be spamed for that 15 Burst (it has only 5 turn CD for a reason), also her charm is among the strongest in the game

[Unregistered]

So i’m Kinda on the fence here, but i’m willing to buy a Miracle ticket. But who should I get? My SRRs are Sol, Acala, Satan, Susanno and Winter Raph.

[PervertFrVN]

So i’m Kinda on the fence here, but i’m willing to buy a Miracle ticket. But who should I get? My SRRs are Sol, Acala, Satan, Susanno and Winter Raph.

Take hades and run dark team with sol ?

[Tao]

While Sol is certainly more useful in the long term, Osiris might be a better pick for u now coz with her u would have a pretty well-balanced Dark team to clear most early content. A L Tsuku+Sol team will not be as useful early on as your 4 SSR Dark.


No she is not, at least not on Ea level. Many ppl think so coz they use her as a hardcore healer and hold on to her heal while it should be spamed for that 15 Burst (it has only 5 turn CD for a reason), also her charm is among the strongest in the game

Yeah i think i should've pick Osiris she'd be more usefull than Sol for me right now. (checked a vid of a dark team running sol and her dmg is lame even if it's not the main reason you use her ofc)

But nvm, some regret but Sol will still be usefull in my dark team and fix my sustain issue i acutally have and she give me a good reason to work on a ligth team
too ! Tho thanks all for your advices :)

[Sora]

Yeah i think i should've pick Osiris she'd be more usefull than Sol for me right now. (checked a vid of a dark team running sol and her dmg is lame even if it's not the main reason you use her ofc)

But nvm, some regret but Sol will still be usefull in my dark team and fix my sustain issue i acutally have and she give me a good reason to work on a ligth team
too ! Tho thanks all for your advices :)

Well, in my opinion Osiris is awesome! Her heal isn't that strong but it offers +15 burst gauge for your entire party. Furthermore it has a short CD (5 Turns).
Her dizziness skill is also nice in Accessory Quest it helps me a lot sometimes.

Later with Pluto + Satan awakened and Osiris ofc you will have a good sinergy and a fast burst build.

Therefore I would pick Satan or Osiris now but... I am little bit too late to recommend you something.

However you have two core light Himes now. Therefore I would try to complete it and grab another good SSR light Hime with the next miracle ticket.

[Tao]

Well, in my opinion Osiris is awesome! Her heal isn't that strong but it offers +15 burst gauge for your entire party. Furthermore it has a short CD (5 Turns).
Her dizziness skill is also nice in Accessory Quest it helps me a lot sometimes.

Later with Pluto + Satan awakened and Osiris ofc you will have a good sinergy and a fast burst build.

Therefore I would pick Satan or Osiris now but... I am little bit too late to recommend you something.

Does Satan have her Aw form yet ? I think the best choice for late term would'been indeed Satan , Osirs looks great and would help me a lot especially now but i dont see her in my end game build, or just in background. Running Sol will slow by a lot my potential considering Osiris , but i think it'll be enough to handle current content with a good grind. Safer choice i'd said. Osiris would be the best for now, Satan probably the best later on when i'd Aw her (Wich wouldnt happen for a long time anyway as i'm short on draconic eyes and hades /susano do need aw too , not like i think aw susanoo any time soon aha) and Sol between both. Note that if i havnt LTsu i wouldnt have even considering her but for my current stat i think she's the safest pick , helping me on dark side and gimme the tool to work on my ligth team! So i can focus on Dark/Light team for the end game stuff

Reason why i dont see Osiris in my end game dark team is cuz i prefer pluto, and then satan to replace susanoo (Tho yes i could've pick Satan :p) Anyway gonna rely on luck for Satan and next miracle ticket will be Pluto , thanks all !

Sorry English isnt my native langage

[Tao]

Just to say all in all i'm happy with Sol pick and thanks for yours advices , each of them were legit and understable (Sorry i coudlnt edit my last msg)

[Unregistered]

However you have two core light Himes now. Therefore I would try to complete it and grab another good SSR light Hime with the next miracle ticket.

Didnt see the last part of your answer sorry.. Exactly , i'll be working on both team + i just got my last copy of ssr weapon from Baron event tho 2 mlb ssr gun ! (Lucky if you consider i started the even two days ago :D)

For next miracle ticket guess Ssr Art if she'll be avaible is an option too, i'll see :)

[Sora]

Well, for a fast burst build I would rather have Osiris then Hades.
IMO Hades isn't that good even her awakening isn't awesome. For a defense build she is good but you could also run with Jeanne + Pluto (she is also a tanker)

If you want to use Pluto then you should aim for Satan awakened (she will get her awakening in august), Osiris, Amon U (to reach -50 def down)
Ex-skill: Shingens Ex-skill

For late game maybe: Shingen with Ambush, Satan AW, Pluto, Osiris and Chernobog (she is a one man army)

However you should try to get every useful SSR weapon and not for dark and light.

[Marigold]

Does Satan have her Aw form yet ?

Not yet, it's still months and months away, actually if you really think longevity wise the best pick would've been Amon Unleashed or Satan, yes; but a new player would struggle without a healer, so no harm no fault.

[Tao]

I dont plan to use cash on this game beside miracles ticket so ditching out Hades is not in my mind , i'll works with what i have so Hades and Amon U are core for me . So Pluto next ticket become unsure with what you told me. Dunno who's Chernobog , gonna check her.

And yes i plan to get every eido/ssr weap event and advent dats release for sure ,just working on light /dark grid as priority for slvl and farmable raids.

Thanks for your threads

[Sora]

I dont plan to use cash on this game beside miracles ticket so ditching out Hades is not in my mind , i'll works with what i have so Hades and Amon U are core for me . So Pluto next ticket become unsure with what you told me. Dunno who's Chernobog , gonna check her.

And yes i plan to get every eido/ssr weap event and advent dats release for sure ,just working on light /dark grid as priority for slvl and farmable raids.

Thanks for your threads

You are also fine with Hades, Amon U and Pluto. Isn't a big deal. That was just my optimal team.
Maybe you have luck and get Pluto with jewel gatcha :)

Well, just see what SSR Himes you will get before the next Miracle Ticket.

Focus on one or two grid then the next. Just wanted to say that you shouldn't forget the other grid's.

[Tao]

Roger (y) !

[BlazeAlter]

Hades isn't that good even her awakening isn't awesome.

9903
Uh, no.
I guess you haven't done any rank 3-4 accessory quests yet? (If you do plan to main dark and use that for all elements)
In said quests, those trash mobs can start trolling u hard by double/triple atking one of your important himes and if you don't have any potions/super potions to fix that accident, then things can get ugly real quick.
(This could also apply to future hard content like guild order or tower of malice maybe)

I can somehow agree that Hades, while unawakened, is someone you don't need that much right now, but when she's awakened she gains a combo atk rate down that gets added to her death spear ability, which then can get applied to the mobs on the field and can prevent accidents like what I said earlier. Her chaos inferno also adds a "sleeping" move that has a chance to be applied to trash mobs, which is also useful if it hits

Sure, you can take Azathoth for her combo atk rate down but she has a longer CD usage. I'd rather take 2 combo atk rate downs and apply them to both wave 1 and 2 cuz I've experienced some ugly things happening in rank 3 accessory quests, and having 2 means the other one (most likely Hades) can also get applied to the last boss just in time.

[Aidoru]

Unless you're planning to intentionally use the weaker Nyarlathotep for whatever reason, Hades is the only dark SSR with an A-frame atk down. Nyar being one of the only 2 SR and has a weaker debuff, the other one being a future release that requires a dot on the enemy for the atk down to even take effect.

It then doesn't help that every dark B-frame debuffer is time limited, making any player without one of them basically stuck with Joan+Sniper or Dart+Trial if you want some proper debuffs.

If your running raid related stuff, sure, do whatever you want but for anything that you can't get carried with, Hades is very important to have in a dark team, even without her awakening.

[Sora]

9903
Uh, no.
I guess you haven't done any rank 3-4 accessory quests yet? (If you do plan to main dark and use that for all elements)
In said quests, those trash mobs can start trolling u hard by double/triple atking one of your important himes and if you don't have any potions/super potions to fix that accident, then things can get ugly real quick.
(This could also apply to future hard content like guild order or tower of malice maybe)

I can somehow agree that Hades, while unawakened, is someone you don't need that much right now, but when she's awakened she gains a combo atk rate down that gets added to her death spear ability, which then can get applied to the mobs on the field and can prevent accidents like what I said earlier. Her chaos inferno also adds a "sleeping" move that has a chance to be applied to trash mobs, which is also useful if it hits

Sure, you can take Azathoth for her combo atk rate down but she has a longer CD usage. I'd rather take 2 combo atk rate downs and apply them to both wave 1 and 2 cuz I've experienced some ugly things happening in rank 3 accessory quests, and having 2 means the other one (most likely Hades) can also get applied to the last boss just in time.

I can do all Rank 3 quest with my dark team without problems. Rank 4 just light because I don't have enough damage to kill them faster.
However I have Dark Amaterasu in my team and seriously I don't need another defender/balance SSR Hime.
Yeah, I know she is limited!

Sleeping is actually useless... I have Hypnos and I already tried it out. Osiris dizziness skill is a lot better.

IMO Haded is just situational. She's definitely not bad enough to be benched, but certainly not good enough to be regularly deployed.
It also depends on your team.

Furthermore if you run Jeanne with Sniper-Shot or have a Dark Hime with B-frame attack down + Pluto = you have enough def + Vine you reach -50 attack down and you have two damage cut skills.
For people who don't have Hades.

IMO Hades isn't a MUST have Dark Hime but if you have her then it's good.
But there are also other options.

[AutoCrimson]

honestly i'd pick Hades over Osiris in MT, if i had to choose

[BlazeAlter]

However I have Dark Amaterasu in my team and seriously I don't need another defender/balance SSR Hime.

Yo just to clear things up, I'm not convincing you to get Hades and put her on your team lol. I just can't agree with your earlier statement that Hades isn't amazing even awakened. Not gonna brag or anything but Hades was a huge help to me during the medusa ragnarok because she can save me once from the petrify debuff. Sure, not all bosses have dangerous debuffs like that but she can still block some pesky debuffs like poison or cursed from enemies (which was also a nice help when I soloed baron's ragnarok so Osiris heals wouldnt go to waste)



Sleeping is actually useless... I have Hypnos and I already tried it out. Osiris dizziness skill is a lot better.

Well I haven't actually used a debuff like that before since I don't have Hypnos and I'm not gonna bother getting her either. How useless is it anyway? I'm curious though.
I mean the one for Hades awakening could be stronger but I can't say for sure since its not here yet on our version, all I can do is speculate but I'm not gonna rely on that either, just like I don't rely on Osiris dizzy skill even if it hits. I had that hit on some fights and sometimes it doesn't even work once. It's a nice touch that I like but not something I would rely on too much



Yeah, I know she is limited!

IMO Haded is just situational. She's definitely not bad enough to be benched, but certainly not good enough to be regularly deployed.

Furthermore if you run Jeanne with Sniper-Shot or have a Dark Hime with B-frame attack down + Pluto = you have enough def.
For people who don't have Hades.

IMO Hades isn't a MUST have Dark Hime but if you have her then it's good.

Still can't agree with your statement of her not being good enough to be regularly deployed, but well we all have our own opinions. I'll respect yours lol
and yes, since dark amat is a limited amazing SSR, not everyone would have the luxury that you do that would allow them to run different main souls, and as Aidoru said, most B frame debuffers of dark are kinda limited too (Lu bu is a good option but if a newbie wants to main dark they wont have her until her event returns)
and the def thing isn't Hades' main use, damage cut and def buff are 2 different things, and obviously you'd have more survivability and receive less damage if you have 2 damage cut abilities from joan and pluto

tl;dr
don't say Hades isn't that great for people who aren't in the same situation as you are (you having dark amaterasu and all, everyone who mains dark wants her too you know, but not everyone got her and everyone will be stuck waiting for her return next year). She's a good starting hime for dark that provides some basic needs and even more so when she gets her awakening

[Sora]

Yo just to clear things up, I'm not convincing you to get Hades and put her on your team lol. I just can't agree with your earlier statement that Hades isn't amazing even awakened. Not gonna brag or anything but Hades was a huge help to me during the medusa ragnarok because she can save me once from the petrify debuff. Sure, not all bosses have dangerous debuffs like that but she can still block some pesky debuffs like poison or cursed from enemies (which was also a nice help when I soloed baron's ragnarok so Osiris heals wouldnt go to waste)


Well I haven't actually used a debuff like that before since I don't have Hypnos and I'm not gonna bother getting her either. How useless is it anyway? I'm curious though.
I mean the one for Hades awakening could be stronger but I can't say for sure since its not here yet on our version, all I can do is speculate but I'm not gonna rely on that either, just like I don't rely on Osiris dizzy skill even if it hits. I had that hit on some fights and sometimes it doesn't even work once. It's a nice touch that I like but not something I would rely on too much



Still can't agree with your statement of her not being good enough to be regularly deployed, but well we all have our own opinions. I'll respect yours lol
and yes, since dark amat is a limited amazing SSR, not everyone would have the luxury that you do that would allow them to run different main souls, and as Aidoru said, most B frame debuffers of dark are kinda limited too (Lu bu is a good option but if a newbie wants to main dark they wont have her until her event returns)
and the def thing isn't Hades' main use, damage cut and def buff are 2 different things, and obviously you'd have more survivability and receive less damage if you have 2 damage cut abilities from joan and pluto

tl;dr
don't say Hades isn't that great for people who aren't in the same situation as you are (you having dark amaterasu and all, everyone who mains dark wants her too you know, but not everyone got her and everyone will be stuck waiting for her return next year). She's a good starting hime for dark that provides some basic needs and even more so when she gets her awakening

First of all I apologize for my statement about Hades.
She is good but imo not that awesome and yes, you are right she is a good starting hime for a dark team.

But I just wanted to say even if you don't have Dark Amaterasu or Hades. There is also the option to run Jeanne with Snipper Shot if the content is hard and you need attack down.

But everyone has a different opinion.
Even if I don't have dark Amaterasu I would choose Osiris/Satan/Thanatos/Pluto and next year Amon U upgraded over Hades. That's my opinion.
Later with Satan AW and her dark resistance down I think dizziness will work a lot better.

About sleeping:
If the moob wakes up sleeping automatically vanish in other words there is no CD for sleeping like blindness or dizziness.

[Tao]

As i came back on this game 3 days ago (and missed D ama) i didnt dig too much so i dont know what's her ability beside the b frame and a self heal if i remeber well, so everyone's talking about her as being core for her b frame, being the only Ssr one having it and if so , same goes with hades being the only ssr hime having an a frame atk so looks even even for me. Dont get me wrong i'd love to have D ama + i bet her skill set is amazing but same for hades set (all of her ability are good enough to be carried in a Mt) I did get Lu bu before my break so i still have somehow a b frame if i want more versality for my soul.

What i mean its dat you rely on your soul/ ex skill or an Sr hime to get the lacking proper debuff for both of them, both having a weaker version of the debuff in Sr hime (If i dont miss talk only nyarlohtep have the A frame debuff which is a 15% same as Lu bu B frame) While Joan is better than Dart and Nyarlo than Lu bu imo tho better have D ama for sure. (Just my own though and i'm not a veteran)

Now good new for me Pluto and Hades can pair very well together in fact

[Tao]

About Thanatos does she perform better than U amon once she'll get her up ?

[BlazeAlter]

First of all I apologize for my statement about Hades.
She is good but imo not that awesome and yes, you are right she is a good starting hime for a dark team.

But I just wanted to say even if you don't have Dark Amaterasu or Hades. There is also the option to run Jeanne with Snipper Shot if the content is hard and you need attack down.

But everyone has a different opinion.
Even if I don't have dark Amaterasu I would choose Osiris/Satan/Thanatos/Pluto and next year Amon U upgraded over Hades. That's my opinion.

About sleeping:
If the moob wakes up the debuff automatically vanish.

yeah, they could run joan with sniper shot, although that would make them sacrifice having black propaganda
Mordred w/ sniper shot paired with nyarlathotep sounds okay too, looking at it from a newbie's perspective

Yes that's true, I just really find it normal for Hades to be part of an average dark team build (based from what I've usually seen)

Oh, so sleeping is like a 1 turn paralyze or something?
(and well.. it is called sleeping so when the mob wakes up of course that will vanish lmao ;p)

edit: Also gonna add one more thing, some Soul EX skills have shit accuracy (like Ambush, even with VoF when fighting neutral elements it has that tendency to miss, meanwhile Amon U's can hit even without VoF on neutral elements except wind disaster)
Now I don't know if trial by jury has bad accuracy (I've experienced it missing from time to time for me during Icarus raid when I used joan), or if I'm just unlucky (even to the point that when joan's team combo atk buff seems to not work for her and only her teammates benefit from it, either that or she just hates me lol), but Hades atk down doesn't miss too much for me tbh (also deals a ton of damage)

[BlazeAlter]

About Thanatos does she perform better than U amon once she'll get her up ?

in my opinion she gets benched real fast once Amon U gets upgraded (and people also say AW satan is better than Thanatos). Because Thanatos only offers C frame 20% while Amon went from A frame 25% to AoE C frame 25% while offering a light atk down 15% which would help u reach the atk debuff cap against light enemies. Her raging nuke also went from 4.5 - 5.5x w/ 8CD to a 7 - 7.5x w/ 6CD which would allow u to use this more often than usual

[AutoCrimson]

putting B Frame from D'ama aside, she has BP (albeit with 10 turn cd instead of 8 from Mordred).
still i replaced Mordred with Arthur+PF/VoF (VoF quite rarely)

[Tao]

in my opinion she gets benched real fast once Amon U gets upgraded (and people also say AW satan is better than Thanatos). Because Thanatos only offers C frame 20% while Amon went from A frame 25% to AoE C frame 25% while offering a light atk down 15% which would help u reach the atk debuff cap against light enemies. Her raging nuke also went from 4.5 - 5.5x w/ 8CD to a 7 - 7.5x w/ 6CD which would allow u to use this more often than usual

Yeah... i dont like Satan/U Amon and Thanatos spot currently , one being the best then later an other and an other ecetera.. Imo Satan is the best hime for dark once she get her awakening form (She's core for me, way more than D ama or Hades and damn i'd like to get my hands on her ^^) Just what i though about thana and U amon fight, thanks for your anwser

[Unregistered]

putting B Frame from D'ama aside, she has BP (albeit with 10 turn cd instead of 8 from Mordred).
still i replaced Mordred with Arthur+PF/VoF (VoF quite rarely)

Oh yes i understand why she's op lol , i assume you have her tho? Really nice man gratz

[Tao]

Tho yes i have to change my statement on her, she's definitevly core and i should stop talking cuz cant edit last post :)

[BlazeAlter]

Yeah... i dont like Satan/U Amon and Thanatos spot currently , one being the best then later an other and an other ecetera.. Imo Satan is the best hime for dark once she get her awakening form (She's core for me, way more than D ama or Hades and damn i'd like to get my hands on her ^^) Just what i though about thana and U amon fight, thanks for your anwser

Well they give different things, Satan and Thanatos being fast at burst building because of their combo atk rate buff, and Satan also has that overdrive reduction which can save you in your time of need if you want to delay the overdrive for 1 more turn, while Amon is more of a boss killer offering high damage and an extended stun that can help a lot in certain situations like ragnaroks and stuff

In the end I guess its all up to preferences.
Personally I like Amon Unleashed more because of what she offers (right now and in the future) and obvious waifu reasons lol.

[Sora]

Oh yes i understand why she's op lol , i assume you have her tho? Really nice man gratz

Tho yes i have to change my statement on her, she's definitevly core and i should stop talking cuz cant edit last post :)

Well, that's the actually reason why she is so awesome. You have the 2 most important ex-skills in one SSR Hime. That's why she is a core.
Therefore you don't need to run Mordred+Sniper Short anymore.
However she is limited, sadly.


Now good new for me Pluto and Hades can pair very well together in fact
Yes they pair good but Osiris pairs better with Pluto.
Pluto's skills are:
Abi1 is an dmg AoE that replenishes 3 lego stacks.
Abi2 is a 30% dmg cut (additional 20% Light cut if she has lego stack).
Abi3 is a 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack).
Her burst consumes all lego stack and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per stack = really awesome!

Osiris offers +15 Burst Guage for your entire party and Satan Awakened also offers a +15 burst gauge increase for herself = making her optimal for a fast burst build.



Oh, so sleeping is like a 1 turn paralyze or something?
(and well.. it is called sleeping so when the mob wakes up of course that will vanish lmao ;p)


Yes, it's pretty useless actually.
Later with Satan Awakened who offers -10% dark ressistance down or Samael (in december?) with -25% dark ressistance down.
There is a higher chance to land Osiris dizziness but Hades also offers Blindness.



Yes that's true, I just really find it normal for Hades to be part of an average dark team build (based from what I've usually seen)


Well, I am still thinking that Hades is a good SSR Hime but she is situational.
They should change her A-frame to C-frame...
Then you would also have the option to run: (if you don't have Pluto)
- Jeanne with BP
- Satan or Samael later
- Thanatos/Amon U
- Osiris
- Hades



edit: Also gonna add one more thing, some Soul EX skills have shit accuracy (like Ambush, even with VoF when fighting neutral elements it has that tendency to miss, meanwhile Amon U's can hit even without VoF on neutral elements except wind disaster)
Now I don't know if trial by jury has bad accuracy (I've experienced it missing from time to time for me during Icarus raid when I used joan), or if I'm just unlucky (even to the point that when joan's team combo atk buff seems to not work for her and only her teammates benefit from it, either that or she just hates me lol), but Hades atk down doesn't miss too much for me tbh (also deals a ton of damage)

Trial by Jury has a better accuracy than Ambush.
Well, with Satan AW maybe Ambush will land easier.

[BlazeAlter]

Yes, it's pretty useless actually.
Later with Satan Awakened who offers -10% dark ressistance down or Samael (in december?) with -25% dark ressistance down.
There is a higher chance to land Osiris dizziness but Hades also offers Blindness.


Hm, I can still see some use for it, but not too much of a use like its broken or anything though.
I find it sad that Samael won't be coming out anytime soon(not that I can actually secure a spot for her, i'd have a pretty difficult time in deciding who i want to remove from my own team but she's still pretty good to have)



Well, I am still thinking that Hades is a good SSR Hime but she is situational.
They should change her A-frame to C-frame...
Then you would also have the option to run:
- Jeanne with BP
- Satan or Samael later
- Thanatos/Amon U
- Osiris
- Hades

I don't think they'll do that. She's already good as she is (I also don't recall any dark SSR hime right now that has a C frame atk debuff)
If they did want to change it, they would've already when they did the upgrades to Amon U



Trial by Jury has a better accuracy than Ambush.
Well, with Satan AW maybe Ambush will land easier.

I only have a few teams that actually use joan as main soul, so I can't really tell for myself. Maybe I'll test it in the future...
Heck even sniper shot sometimes trolls me in some quests

And wait a sec, why would u want to run ambush?
I know satan's A frame is weaker, but lets say you have AW satan, dark amat and upgraded Amon U, you'd already reach the def debuff cap. I'd rather bring something else. maybe something like Provisional forest if you can run a burst build or even desertion is a better option
And even then, if you managed to get thanatos now, and have the same setup (except thanatos in amon U's spot) you'd still be reaching that def debuff cap..

[Sora]

And wait a sec, why would u want to run ambush?
I know satan's A frame is weaker, but lets say you have AW satan, dark amat and upgraded Amon U, you'd already reach the def debuff cap. I'd rather bring something else. maybe something like Provisional forest if you can run a burst build or even desertion is a better option
And even then, if you managed to get thanatos now, and have the same setup (except thanatos in amon U's spot) you'd still be reaching that def debuff cap..

Depends on the situation.
My optimal burst team will be:
- Satan AW --> core
- Osiris --> burst gauge + heal (but seriously she needs an awakening asap)
- Pluto --> 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack) and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per lego stack = NO, I won't replace her. She is awesome!
- Dark Amaterasu* --> well, BP and sniper shot. (Maybe I will swap her with Chernobog, if I get her, and run with Sniper Shot)
- Shingen with Ambush or Hercules +PF later with his weapon.

Well, which one should I replace?
Furthermore I also could run with -45% def down and seriously, I will do enough damage and could use a different ex-skill.

At the moment I just need Pluto and wait for Satan's awakening because I already have the other Himes.

[Tao]

Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed :p I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

[BlazeAlter]

Depends on the situation.
My optimal burst team will be:
- Satan AW --> core
- Osiris --> burst gauge + heal (but seriously she needs an awakening asap)
- Pluto --> 20% Atk up (additional 30% Dark dmg if she has lego stack) and receives a +100% burst dmg multiplier per lego stack = NO, I won't replace her. She is awesome!
- Dark Amaterasu* --> well, BP and sniper shot. (Maybe I will swap her with Chernobog, if I get her, and run with Sniper Shot)
- Shingen with Ambush or Hercules +PF later with his weapon.

Well, which one should I replace?
Furthermore I also could run with -45% def down and seriously, I will do enough damage and could use a different ex-skill.

At the moment I just need Pluto and wait for Satan's awakening because I already have the other Himes.

None? If we're talking about in the future sense where Amon U already has her upgrade
Right now obviously you wouldn't want to pair Amon and Satan, unless you just want satan's overdrive reduction
I can also see Samael potentially replacing Satan AW simply because she offers a 25% dark RST already (even more so if you plan to use Hercules with her wep, you would be reaching def debuff cap too easy), plus if i recall correctly she also has a combo atk rate down debuff and a nuke like yamaraja's, making her deal more damage than Satan AW (only downside is her dark RST debuff only lasts 120 seconds... is this too much of a problem? probably not too much, unlike baal unleashed's 90 sec 30% thunder RST debuff)
and if you're afraid she might be late to burst then just place her on the very last spot (if on a burst build perhaps, i doubt this too because I think shingen's combo atk buff is good)

I never said anything to suggest replacing pluto btw lol. I agree 100% that she is definitely a core dark hime, not only because of her buffs but you can never go wrong with a damage cut ability
Honestly, if I had that during Rahab ragnarok, I would've always won
edit: Also, where did you see that info about pluto having a 100% burst damage multiplier per lego stack? I don't see anything in JP wiki that confirms that
And I don't doubt your damage, so chill lol


Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed :p I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

Agreed. she looks a bit strange on her awakened form..
Seriously, comparing her art to the other awakened forms they look better than her

[Sora]

None? If we're talking about in the future sense where Amon U already has her upgrade
Right now obviously you wouldn't want to pair Amon and Satan, unless you just want satan's overdrive reduction
I can also see Samael potentially replacing Satan AW simply because she offers a 25% dark RST already (even more so if you plan to use Hercules with her wep, you would be reaching def debuff cap too easy), plus if i recall correctly she also has a combo atk rate down debuff and a nuke like yamaraja's, making her deal more damage than Satan AW (only downside is her dark RST debuff only lasts 120 seconds... is this too much of a problem? probably not too much, unlike baal unleashed's 90 sec 30% thunder RST debuff)
and if you're afraid she might be late to burst then just place her on the very last spot (if on a burst build perhaps, i doubt this too because I think shingen's combo atk buff is good)


I edited some things... didn't mean Amon but Dark Amaterasu*

Well, the another thing is that Chernobog is also pretty awesome.
She offers:
Abi1 30% Rage Gauge reduction + self 30 Burst Gauge
Abi2 Single Target Dmg + Self DATA up
Abi3 that gives her +150% Atk, +100% Def, +50% Crit Rate & Dmg, and 500/T regen, and lasts for as long as you can keep it up.

But she is a little bit tricky and will ruin the burst timing, if you don't master her.

In the future I wouldn't run Amon U unless I have Samael.
However Satan AW is a fast burst Hime, so it depends and her skills have a shorter CD than Samael.

Amon U is good but Satan AW will do more damage.
I would actually replace Dark Amaterasu for a very fast burst build, maybe.


Yeah everything more clear now , plus i love her skin so much ! the limited part wasnt necessary i already know it and it make me é_è

While thinking about my team comp i though about avoiding the use of a b frame to reach max debuff , as you say too bad hades is not a c frame lol

Tho you have D ama Satan and Osiris ? Can't wait to see your team ocne you'll get pluto and satan aw , will be absolutely monster !

Now on for U amon stuff, yeah she's better than Satan Rn and better than Thana after her change tho i give it to amon too. (And obv for waifu indeed :p I dont like short haired girl and satan looks pretty but too bad they messed up a bit with her Aw skin imo, could done so much better)

Months away... Satan's awakening is months away...
But well, I will try my luck with Pluto next month.
However I will spend my money olny for miracle tickets. I am not a big fan of gambling. ´

Hopefully I have enough luck with jewel gatcha and premium tickets... :p

Seriously? I think Satan AW looks way better than before. I don't like her current design but her AW form looks pretty :)
However I am also thinking that Thanatos design looks better than Amon U.

[BlazeAlter]

I edited some things... didn't mean Amon but Dark Amaterasu*

Well, the another thing is that Chernobog is also pretty awesome.
She offers:
Abi1 30% Rage Gauge reduction + self 30 Burst Gauge
Abi2 Single Target Dmg + Self DATA up
Abi3 that gives her +150% Atk, +100% Def, +50% Crit Rate & Dmg, and 500/T regen, and lasts for as long as you can keep it up.

But she is a little bit tricky and will ruin the burst timing, if you don't master her.

In the future I wouldn't run Amon U unless I have Samael.
However Satan AW is a fast burst Hime, so it depends and her skills have a shorter CD than Samael.

Amon U is good but Satan AW will do more damage.
I would actually replace Dark Amaterasu for a very fast burst build.

It's funny that we're talking about dark team topics here when this is the miracle ticket thead and there's a separate thread for that (though sadly it is a dead thread), but I guess nobody minds anyway

If i recall correctly though, chernobog's 3rd ability depends on her burst gauge (by that, I mean it consumes 15 burst gauge each turn just so she can keep up those abilities)
I'm not calling her useless btw, I can definitely see how useful she can be.
But if I just wanted pure god like damage, I'll just go with Susanoo awakened (because I have seen someone in a baron raid do 600k+ with that ability of hers... most people I only see 300k - 400k, but thats still pretty good considering you can do that every 5 turns)

[Tao]

It's funny that we're talking about dark team topics here when this is the miracle ticket thead and there's a separate thread for that (though sadly it is a dead thread), but I guess nobody minds anyway

Totally lol.

Since we're stilll in the miracle ticket thread i'll ask one more question about it , so i have susanoo u amon hades and ltsu sol , assuming i'll get no new hime untill next miracle ticket who should i pick ? Same for my 1st aw hime (was thinking about sol cuz cant go wrong with her but unsure)

[BlazeAlter]

Totally lol.

Since we're stilll in the miracle ticket thread i'll ask one more question about it , so i have susanoo u amon hades and ltsu sol , assuming i'll get no new hime untill next miracle ticket who should i pick ? Same for my 1st aw hime (was thinking about sol cuz cant go wrong with her but unsure)

do you mean your choice for the next miracle ticket?
if that's what you mean, you can go pluto if u want
i mean satan is also an option for you, but right now its kinda weird to be using both satan and amon... (if she gets awakened which is probably august I guess its fine, even in the long run)
I could suggest something for ur light team but sadly I don't main that element (so i dont know too much about it) and the only choice I can think of is SSR Artemis, which wouldn't be out on 3rd miracle ticket.
You could go Eros if you want to invest in your light team, since she offers a 20% atk down if you don't have anyone to provide that yet

Its up to you really for your first awakening. Sol's awakening is next month, and the month after that is Hades.
I would suggest awakening the himes for your main team first before other teams, unless you have a surplus of draconic eyes.

[Sora]

It's funny that we're talking about dark team topics here when this is the miracle ticket thead and there's a separate thread for that (though sadly it is a dead thread), but I guess nobody minds anyway

If i recall correctly though, chernobog's 3rd ability depends on her burst gauge (by that, I mean it consumes 15 burst gauge each turn just so she can keep up those abilities)
I'm not calling her useless btw, I can definitely see how useful she can be.
But if I just wanted pure god like damage, I'll just go with Susanoo awakened (because I have seen someone in a baron raid do 600k+ with that ability of hers... most people I only see 300k - 400k, but thats still pretty good considering you can do that every 5 turns)

You are absolutely right :P
Shall we move to the other thread? But as you said it's dead, so who cares.

The thing is that Amon U and Dark Amaterasu are slow and low on damage.
If you want to go pure damage:
- Satan AW
- Pluto
- Osiris
- Chernobog/Susano AW

Satan AW+Pluto+Osiris have a really good synergy imo.
But you will need Herclues weapon or run sniper shot with Shingen for this build.

Yes, you need 15 burst gauge every turn so that you can keep up her abilities. That's why Chernobog is so tricky >.<
However I will save up my jewels after Pluto because with Chernobog release we will also get Anubis (80-100% Eido)
So, it's worth a try.
Well, if I get Chernobog I will try her out instead of Dark Amaterasu.

[Tao]

do you mean your choice for the next miracle ticket?
if that's what you mean, you can go pluto if u want
i mean satan is also an option for you, but right now its kinda weird to be using both satan and amon... (if she gets awakened which is probably august I guess its fine, even in the long run)
I could suggest something for ur light team but sadly I don't main that element and the only choice I can think of is SSR Artemis, which wouldn't be out on 3rd miracle ticket.
You could go Eros if you want to invest in your light team, since she offers a 20% atk down if you don't have anyone to provide that yet

Its up to you really for your first awakening. Sol's awakening is next month, and the month after that is Hades.
I would suggest awakening the himes for your main team first before other teams, unless you have a surplus of draconic eyes.

Yep its what i meant ! Hard choice then r maybe not? I plan to play both element at the end of the day and my dark grid weap is done for now (cant improve it untill next dark event) on the other hand i have better long run tools for my light team (2 mlb guns from Baron and 3 mlb light ssr eido vs one mlb pride weap and jack lantern mlb for dark ) tho getting pluto then ssr art with 3rd and 4th ticket looks good for me :o. Ik i plan far far away but hey better have a direction to follow :p !

Sorry for my english

[Sora]

Totally lol.

Since we're stilll in the miracle ticket thread i'll ask one more question about it , so i have susanoo u amon hades and ltsu sol , assuming i'll get no new hime untill next miracle ticket who should i pick ? Same for my 1st aw hime (was thinking about sol cuz cant go wrong with her but unsure)

Well, your dark team is a little bit odd at the moment imo.
Because Amon U gets her upgrade next year... and like BlazeRai said you won't have a synergy between Satan AW and Amon U.
I would wait and try to get Pluto with jewel gatcha. Maybe you will get Satan, Thanatos or Osiris with jewel gatcha.

So therefore I wouldn't recommend you something at the moment. Just wait and see what you will get before the next miracle ticket.
There is a lot of time^^ and maybe your team and miracle ticket priority will change.

At the moment I would get a another light SSR Hime for your team with the next miracle ticket. But it will depend which SSR Hime you will have until then.
Furthermore I think Samael is in the 4th miracle ticket... and I think she will be better in your team than Pluto, if you don't get more SSR Dark Himes xP
Because with Samael + Amon U = -50% def down.

[BlazeAlter]

You are absolutely right :P
Shall we move to the other thread? But as you said it's dead, so who cares.


I do wish that thread comes back to life someday, cuz like the light thread, it was so interesting and entertaining reading it cuz it also gives me other ideas that I've never thought of yet



The thing is that Amon U is slow and low on damage.


For now....
It seriously sucks that we have to wait a long time just for her to get her OP buffs. When I saw those buffs for the first time I knew she turned into a true boss killer lol. I mean I love that ability here even tho its still 4.5-5.5x and not 7-7.5x yet, but my main problem with it is the long 8CD

About Chernobog, If I got her during a random roll or something then I'd definitely try using her and stuff, seems like she'd be fun to play with, but she wouldn't be on my to-miracle list of himes though.

cuz for example if I have completed my team's main roster, I would probably use the next miracle ticket for another element instead (like light, if one has a dark main, cuz lets face it, its a pain in the ass sometimes to face ur own element, and killing things faster w/ elemental advantage is much better), because it seems like a waste to me if I wanted to miracle someone just to place them in the back, when most of the main team doesn't die too often anyway... and spending another miracle ticket to strengthen another team is good in the long run considering we have some future content like guild order or tower of malice coming up


Yep its what i meant ! Hard choice then r maybe not? I plan to play both element at the end of the day and my dark grid weap is done for now (cant improve it untill next dark event) on the other hand i have better long run tools for my light team (2 mlb guns from Baron and 3 mlb light ssr eido vs one mlb pride weap and jack lantern mlb for dark ) tho getting pluto then ssr art with 3rd and 4th ticket looks good for me :o. Ik i plan far far away but hey better have a direction to follow :p !

Sorry for my english

It's normal to have both light and dark teams since they strengthen each other by handling their respective accessory quests and events. Of course focusing on one of them first is the obvious choice.. in your case, it's your dark team
and the bad news is, the next dark event (besides envy union event) is kinda far away.... which sucks.
I main dark too, so I'm kinda suffering in improving my own stats since there's no new dark weapons for me to add to my own grid..

[Tao]

Well, your dark team is a little bit odd at the moment imo.
Because Amon U gets her upgrade next year... and like BlazeRai said you won't have a synergy between Satan AW and Amon U.
I would wait and try to get Pluto with jewel gatcha. Maybe you will get Satan, Thanatos or Osiris with jewel gatcha.

So therefore I wouldn't recommend you something at the moment. Just wait and see what you will get before the next miracle ticket.
There is a lot of time^^ and maybe your team and miracle ticket priority will change.

At the moment I would get a another light SSR Hime for your team with the next miracle ticket. But it will depend which SSR Hime you will have until then.
Furthermore I think Samael is in the 4th miracle ticket... maybe you want her than Pluto.
Because with Samael + Amon U = -50% def down.

Yeah all in all my question is just about talking as my priority can change with some good gacha , but i like to have a straightfoward direction to follow and other opinions !

Dont worry i fell the odd too about my current team :( But will do it !

[Tao]

Yes i saw it on sana's event thread , make me sad (currently 1 ssr pride 7 sr assault and 2 def all mlb and slvl 15 +) On the other side 3 light event coming so nice for dark team to shine and grab good stuff for light !

Next answer on the dark thread :p

[Sora]

It seriously sucks that we have to wait a long time just for her to get her OP buffs. When I saw those buffs for the first time I knew she turned into a true boss killer lol. I mean I love that ability here even tho its still 4.5-5.5x and not 7-7.5x yet, but my main problem with it is the long 8CD


That's why she is low on damage and speed... Next year she will be better.
But at the moment with my current team I don't really need her even after her upgrade.
Maybe I will switch between Dark Amaterasu and Amon U, if I have her but I won't waste a miracle ticket for Amon U.
But for the others she will be awesome and a lot better than now.


cuz for example if I have completed my team's main roster, I would probably use the next miracle ticket for another element instead (like light, if one has a dark main, cuz lets face it, its a pain in the ass sometimes to face ur own element, and killing things faster w/ elemental advantage is much better), because it seems like a waste to me if I wanted to miracle someone just to place them in the back, when most of the main team doesn't die too often anyway... and spending another miracle ticket to strengthen another team is good in the long run considering we have some future content like guild order or tower of malice coming up

That's the long term plan.

At the moment I just need Pluto and if I have enough luck with jewel gatcha or premium ticket I will work on my other grids and Himes.
However my dark grid is composed of 7 SR Assault (most of them from Dark Disaster Raid), 1 SR Defender and 2 SSR Kamihime Weapons.
I reach 106% Assault and 27% defender (32% with Bastet). But the next Dark Event's are months away >.<

The thing is that my only SSR Himes besides dark is Gaia.
Therefore it will depend what SSR Himes I will get till the next miracle ticket.
My light Team is a little bit odd I have Belebog and Diana. Most of the time I will use Dark Amaterasu for each element and run Cassiopeia/Andromeda.
Well, I hope I will get Sol or another core SSR light Hime because like you said it will be a pain in the ass to run off-element each time especially in tower.

I will try to get every usefull SSR Weapon and some SR Assault Weapon for each element from every event.

About Pluto:


I never said anything to suggest replacing pluto btw lol. I agree 100% that she is definitely a core dark hime, not only because of her buffs but you can never go wrong with a damage cut ability
Honestly, if I had that during Rahab ragnarok, I would've always won
edit: Also, where did you see that info about pluto having a 100% burst damage multiplier per lego stack? I don't see anything in JP wiki that confirms that
And I don't doubt your damage, so chill lol


Well, I just wanted to say that she is really awesome and I don't think I will replace her until DMM release a better SSR Dark Hime than her. But then she would get a Awakening later xP
Here 100% burst increase: (google translator translate 100% to 1%... lol)
9906

Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing :D
Furthermore she is not only a tank also a damage dealer. She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)
I also love Pluto's design. I am not really a fan for Lolis but I love her character design.

[Slashley]

--
Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing :D
--Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.
--
She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

[Sora]

Although I'm staying far away from the rest of this discussion, I'd just like to point out that this is unlikely to be nearly as good as it sounds.

Now, "100% more" means "double damage." However, +100% burst damage means that you get 100% (one auto-attack) damage added to your Burst. SSRs already have 500%, so for actually double damage, you need five stacks. This might not be too problematic, but keep in mind that currently our +burst is capped at +300% and later at +500%. Also note that Hime like that are usually incompatible with Provisional Forest builds as Shingen puts you to +burst cap anyway. Furthermore, burst damage cap is a thing, and Hime with +burst damage will just hit this damage cap. Maybe. I'm not sure if that's going to happen without double P2W Eidolon...

Anyway, I haven't looked up if Pluto works like this or not, but you may want to tone your expectations down a bit.Because these are just added to already existing modifiers, you're NOT going to get +50% damage. More like 5-10% from the Atk up and ~15% from the elem+. Less if you have a P2W Eidolon running.

Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build rather than Hades.
And I know that isn't a double damage but 20-25% are also good and I don't know if I will ever get a P2W Eidolong, but who cares?
P2W Eidolon will make your life easier but you can also do without them. Don't know if this also applies for tower.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

[Slashley]

--
Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

[BlazeAlter]

About Pluto:


Well, I just wanted to say that she is really awesome and I don't think I will replace her until DMM release a better SSR Dark Hime than her. But then she would get a Awakening later xP
Here 100% burst increase: (google translator translate 100% to 1%... lol)
9906

Bear also confirmed that it is a +100% burst increase for each lego stack. So, yes her burst will be amazing :D
Furthermore she is not only a tank also a damage dealer. She also offers 50% damage increase for your entire dark team (20% A-frame attack up and with lego stack 30% dark attack up)
I also love Pluto's design. I am not really a fan for Lolis but I love her character design.

yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.


Nobody said it will be a double damage.
However her 50% damage increase (20% A-frame attack up and 30% dark attack up)for your entire dark team + damage cut, that's already good enough to bench her in a burst/damage build.

Wait. Shingen offers +200% burst damage and Pluto offers for her self for each lego stack +100% burst damage. Therefore she would just need 3 lego stack to reach 500%, or not?

Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation

[Sora]

If I recall right, the patch which increases the +burst cap also buffs Provisional Forest. Maybe? Can't be arsed to check right now.
Also, relic weapons going to be a thing. Shingen's HP weapon will take you all the way to +500% burst I think? Maybe. I can't be arsed to check right now. But, I can tell you that you usually don't want to use HP relic weapons, the elemental damage boost is just too damn good to pass up on, so maybe this is a moot point?

Well I won't use Shingen's HP relic weapon.
Hercules would be the better choice to reach def cap with less debuffers and I could run more damage dealer or rather switch Dark Amaterasu with another SSR dark Hime.
Therefore Pluto isn't a bad option. PF+3 lego stack = 500% will be enough.


yeah I know what she does lol. I've done my own digging into the jp wiki months ago and from time to time
and no wonder I was confused. when I did that google translate thing myself i only saw a 1% thing then a 300% lol. google translate just being google translate I guess...
I agree that she is quite cute though lol.

Yes, it's google's fault :p


Hmm I'm thinking of a situation where you won't be able to stack as much legos for pluto since of course, depending on the course of the battle you would have to use her damage cut for an overdrive and her buffs when u have ur burst ready, which could potentially leave you with just 1 lego stack (unless of course you can reach that 6CD before bursting or something cuz some fights are long and some fights are short, so I guess that could affect how many legos you can stack before you can do a full burst)
Well all we can do is speculate right now, since she's not here yet... would be best to try her out for ourselves before we say anything with 100% confirmation


Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

[BlazeAlter]

Yes, it's google's fault :p

Well, even if you have just one lego stack + PF you will reach 300%, that's also not bad.
And yes, you are right we should wait and see if Pluto is good enough to use a miracle ticket for her or not.

you don't know how many headaches I've gone through in different games while enduring google translate's butchered sentences...
She is worth the miracle ticket lol, no mistake about that. The only thing we can't confirm for ourselves is the lego stack burst modifier thingy

[Sora]

you don't know how many headaches I've gone through in different games while enduring google translate's butchered sentences...
She is worth the miracle ticket lol, no mistake about that. The only thing we can't confirm for ourselves is the lego stack burst modifier thingy

Haha, poor you!

Well, I will get her because of damage cut down and she is awesome for light enimies like Barong :D
+ the party damage increase is also nice.
+ burst increase for herself
+ I love her design, seriously :)

So for me she will be in my main team, no matter what.

[BlazeAlter]

Haha, poor you!

Well, I will get her because of damage cut down and she is awesome for light enimies like Barong :D
+ the party damage increase is also nice.
+ burst increase for herself
+ I love her design, seriously :)

So for me she will be in my main team, no matter what.

I can agree that her damage cut and buffs are her main attractions cuz you can never go wrong with those in any fight, and while not a fan of lolis myself, she's probably one of the cutest dark himes around
I actually would love to know as well how often she does double/triple atks based on how many lego stacks she has (her passive i mean), cuz if she only has 3 stacks on average and she does a lot of successive atks often, she's gonna be pretty useful in any situation and anyone would easily deal a lot of damage with her.

[Cobblemaniac]

I can agree that her damage cut and buffs are her main attractions cuz you can never go wrong with those in any fight, and while not a fan of lolis myself, she's probably one of the cutest dark himes around
I actually would love to know as well how often she does double/triple atks based on how many lego stacks she has (her passive i mean), cuz if she only has 3 stacks on average and she does a lot of successive atks often, she's gonna be pretty useful in any situation and anyone would easily deal a lot of damage with her.

If she does keep her lego stacks stage after stage, I could see her pretty much acting like SSR Cybele in something like AQ4/5. That is, provided 1. she doesn't have a cap on lego and 2. her lego stacks actually give enough boost to DATA to actually matter. Our resident (?) DMM player Bear might be able to help us out here

[BlazeAlter]

If she does keep her lego stacks stage after stage, I could see her pretty much acting like SSR Cybele in something like AQ4/5. That is, provided 1. she doesn't have a cap on lego and 2. her lego stacks actually give enough boost to DATA to actually matter. Our resident (?) DMM player Bear might be able to help us out here

If that's true, then damn, that's gonna feel good in long term battles.

[Sora]

If that's true, then damn, that's gonna feel good in long term battles.

She keeps her lego stack stage after stage :p
Here a video: w.ww.youtube.com/watch?v=gsBP-3JruRg
Pluto is doing a lot of double and tripple damage. Quite a fast burst Dark hime.

PS: That guy is using 2x Anubis so don't wonder about this ridiculous dmg...

[BlazeAlter]

She keeps her lego stack stage after stage :p
Here a video: w.ww.youtube.com/watch?v=gsBP-3JruRg
Pluto is doing a lot of double and tripple damage. Quite a fast burst Dark hime.

PS: That guy is using 2x Anubis so don't wonder about this ridiculous dmg...

Was wondering what quest this was, then I just guessed it was crom cruach's guild order (i think? correct me if im wrong since im not entirely sure, also in the future I'm probably gonna prefer elemental advantage if I could bring it, but if not then I'm fine with using my main dark team also)
I actually didn't bother to watch the whole video, only skipped to the parts where pluto showcases her passive (cuz id like to experience this content firsthand myself lol)
and yeah its consistent enough and very nice from what I saw. She's definitely gonna be a dependable damage dealer as well as long as she has those legos stacked up

[Sora]

Was wondering what quest this was, then I just guessed it was crom cruach's guild order (i think? correct me if im wrong since im not entirely sure, also in the future I'm probably gonna prefer elemental advantage if I could bring it, but if not then I'm fine with using my main dark team also)
I actually didn't bother to watch the whole video, only skipped to the parts where pluto showcases her passive (cuz id like to experience this content firsthand myself lol)
and yeah its consistent enough and very nice from what I saw. She's definitely gonna be a dependable damage dealer as well as long as she has those legos stacked up

Well, why would you watch the whole video if you are only interessted in Pluto's passive skill. :p
Yeah and her lego stack skill dosen't has a very long CD (6 Turns), that makes it even better imo.
She does 1.000.000 burst damage (300.000 more then Satan AW) but that guy is using 2 Anubis, PF+Lego stack...

[BlazeAlter]

Well, why would you watch the whole video if you are only interessted in Pluto's passive skill. :p
Yeah and her lego stack skill dosen't has a very long CD (6 Turns), that makes it even better imo.
She does 1.000.000 burst damage (300.000 more then Satan AW) but that guy is using 2 Anubis, PF+Lego stack...
;p true
well setting aside the ridiculous power level this guy has because of having 2 stacks of anubis, if she was already here for our version then most people with a good grid would also be doing a very nice amount of damage if she was added to their team (using this term since well.. u know, we're not quite the standard DMM Full SSR weapon grid yet lol. that's gonna take us awhile sadly, even more so with the lack of dark events)

for example in my case, during the baron raid I can only do 1.5-1.6m+ full burst damage w/ herc as my soul on a 50/45 debuff w/ elem advantage (this is probably pretty weak especially if I compare myself to the whales of our version and even to the old players who haven't missed out on a single dark event, I missed out on a lot like apocalypse and jack o lantern's since I just started around sphinx's event)
If I were to add her to my team, I could see myself doing a max of... maybe 2mil+? cant say for sure... and she'd easily add more survivability to my team when going up against solo content
(I need more better dark SSR weps damn it)

[Sora]

;p true
well setting aside the ridiculous power level this guy has because of having 2 stacks of anubis, if she was already here for our version then most people with a good grid would also be doing a very nice amount of damage if she was added to their team (using this term since well.. u know, we're not quite the standard DMM Full SSR weapon grid yet lol. that's gonna take us awhile sadly, even more so with the lack of dark events)

for example in my case, during the baron raid I can only do 1.5-1.6m+ full burst damage w/ herc as my soul on a 50/45 debuff w/ elem advantage (this is probably pretty weak especially if I compare myself to the whales of our version and even to the old players who haven't missed out on a single dark event, I missed out on a lot like apocalypse and jack o lantern's since I just started around sphinx's event)
If I were to add her to my team, I could see myself doing a max of... maybe 2mil+? cant say for sure... and she'd easily add more survivability to my team when going up against solo content
(I need more better dark SSR weps damn it)

Bro, I started with the Icarus Event... I don't even have one Event SSR Weapon for my dark team :P
My only dark SSR Eido is Medusa :p and I need Trivia ...

Anubis will really increase your dmg like any other 100% Eido. However we will need a lot of luck to get her with boosted gatcha in August/September >.<

[BlazeAlter]

Bro, I started with the Icarus Event... I don't even have one Event SSR Weapon for my dark team :P
My only dark SSR Eido is Medusa :p and I will need Trivia :)

Anubis will really increase your dmg like any other 100% Eido. However we will need a lot of luck to get her with boosted gatcha in August/September >.<

You should try aiming for even just Echidna/Ouroboros for now tho (since they might just randomly pop up in some of your random rolls), since if i remember correctly, Trivia is character atk and not elemental atk
Oh and I guess technically you could just save up for the raid eido exchange in the future and get your own jack o lantern? since I'm doing that myself
And yes I've experienced how much of a damage boost those 100% eidos are. During Icarus I trolled around some raids by using Arthur w/ PF and having a belial support during burst hours lol, was fun ;p
Normally, a person would want their respective 100% eido for their main element, but they are technically whale bait, so I'm not gonna expect one for myself unless, by some random stroke of luck she decides to join me (or if I decide to hardcore whale on this game which is probably not gonna happen lol, even though I do want her badly but not to the point I'm willing to spend a shit ton of money)
I agree they're good to have and will definitely make things a lot more easy, but if I can't get them for myself because I didn't have sufficient jewels/money/rolls, I'll just let it be and I wouldn't have a problem in even choosing just jack o lantern's 45% if i cant get her for myself or as support (some people with 100% eidos are stingy with their friend lists... I understand why though)

[Sora]

You should try aiming for even just Echidna/Ouroboros for now tho (since they might just randomly pop up in some of your random rolls), since if i remember correctly, Trivia is character atk and not elemental atk
Oh and I guess technically you could just save up for the raid eido exchange in the future and get your own jack o lantern? since I'm doing that myself
And yes I've experienced how much of a damage boost those 100% eidos are. During Icarus I trolled around some raids by using Arthur w/ PF and having a belial support during burst hours lol, was fun ;p
Normally, a person would want their respective 100% eido for their main element, but they are technically whale bait, so I'm not gonna expect one for myself unless, by some random stroke of luck she decides to join me (or if I decide to hardcore whale on this game which is probably not gonna happen lol, even though I do want her badly but not to the point I'm willing to spend a shit ton of money)
I agree they're good to have and will definitely make things a lot more easy, but if I can't get them for myself because I didn't have sufficient jewels/money/rolls, I'll just let it be and I wouldn't have a problem in even choosing just jack o lantern's 45% if i cant get her for myself or as support (some people with 100% eidos are stingy with their friend lists... I understand why though)

Are you sure?
Because:
9908

9909

9910

For "dark character attack up" --> google translater "Attack of Light/Dark attribute character up"
For "elemental attack up" --> google translator "Increase in dark attribute attack" or "dark attribute attack power up"

At the moment I am thinking that Trivia offers 40% Dark attack up and not for dark characters....

Believe me I would love to have Echidna/Ouroboros for the time being but Jewel gatcha won't give me a SSR Eido :P

And yes I, too, won't spend my money to get one of those P2W Eidos, just for miracle ticket's. They are nice to have and will make your life a lot easier. But with elemental advantage you can also clear the harder content (Guild Orders, Tower) without them, that's what I think, don't know if it's true... ^^

Jack O'Lantern is also a good option because I can sell those Lilim Eidos, rehab and other upcoming SSR Event Eido I won't use.

[BlazeAlter]

Are you sure?
Because:
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9909

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For "dark character attack up" --> google translater "Attack of Light/Dark attribute character up"
For "elemental attack up" --> google translator "Increase in dark attribute attack" or "dark attribute attack power up"

At the moment I am thinking that Trivia offers 40% Dark attack up and not for dark characters....

Believe me I would love to have Echidna/Ouroboros for the time being but Jewel gatcha won't give me a SSR Eido :P

And yes I, too, won't spend my money to get one of those P2W Eidos, just for miracle ticket's. They are nice to have and will make your life a lot easier. But with elemental advantage you can also clear the harder content (Guild Orders, Tower) without them, that's what I think, don't know if it's true... ^^

Jack O'Lantern is also a good option because I can sell those Lilim Eidos, rehab and other upcoming SSR Event Eido I won't use.

I referred to slashley's event encyclopedia here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479
and it says there that its character atk
Well I guess its better if he explained it himself since I didn't make it myself and google translate just hurts my head sometimes lol
And jack o lantern is probably one of the best free event eidos that you can have for dark, and best to use if you're not facing against light enemies (Amphisbaena is the one for that)
I would also keep at least 1 lilim per element for myself since their events get reprints anyway.... but that's just me I guess lol

[Sora]

I referred to slashley's event encyclopedia here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479
and it says there that its character atk

People can make mistakes, even slashley... Well, I also don't trust google translator to 100% but it translates that Trivia gives you +40% dark attack up and not character.
So someone who can read japanese should help us :p

[BlazeAlter]

People can make mistakes, even slashley... Well, I also don't trust google translator to 100% but it translates that Trivia gives you +40% dark attack up and not character.
So someone who can read japanese should help us :p

Either someone who can read japanese, or someone who's playing DMM side and has Trivia on their eido inventory
Guess I'll just wait till someone can confirm... (and damn her event for being so far away)

[Sora]

Either someone who can read japanese, or someone who's playing DMM side and has Trivia on their eido inventory
Guess I'll just wait till someone can confirm... (and damn her event for being so far away)

Yes... I need that SSR weapon :p

But Jack O'Lantern offers 45% dark attack up, 5% more than Trivia, if it's not a character dark attack up. I don't know how much of a difference it will make but she would be a good option.

You need 3000 orbs to get one MLB Raid Eido from Eido shop or not?
So basically you need 4 MLB Event eidos to get Jack O'Lantern.

[Cobblemaniac]

From what I can understand, watch out for this: キャラ in the original description (So ctrl + F should do it). That's an indication of character stat instead of elemental stat.

Edit: This basically means Jack'o Latern is our next Reiki/ St Nicholas/ Icarus etc, 45% dark elemental atk at MLB

[Sora]

From what I can understand, watch out for this: キャラ in the original description (So ctrl + F should do it). That's an indication of character stat instead of elemental stat.

Thank you :)

Well, then I will get Jack O'Lantern :p

[BlazeAlter]

You need 3000 orbs to get one MLB Raid Eido from Eido shop or not?
So basically you need 4 MLB Event eidos to get Jack O'Lantern.

Well since Cobblemaniac already answered the previous question...

You don't really need to trade in an MLB event eido, even just 1 copy with 0 or some limit breaks will give u something.
Something like:
Event SSR eido = 150 orbs (add another 150 per limit break, MLB gives 750)
SSR gacha eido = 750 at LB0 (well im sure you wouldnt want to trade these in unless you're a super whale)
SR eidos = 150 at MLB, 120 at LB3 (why I keep my disaster eidos... though i dont MLB them since it costs 10k gems to do so)

and yes, 1 copy costs 600 orbs, and you need 5 copies for an MLB'ed one so that's 3000 orbs total

I mostly kept some duplicate SSR event eidos that I got from past raid events, and because of the recent gluttony reprint, I have an MLB'ed duplicate lilim gula to trade in which is already 750 points.... (and up to you if you wanna trade every single lilim you get, i would keep my first original MLB'ed copy though)
Once that raid eido exchange shop comes, I can probably get an MLB'ed jack o lantern already
The hard one to save for is the kaiser dragoons, since they cost 10k orbs.... and every dark main should get the dark kaiser dragoon because it will benefit them greatly even at LB0

[Sora]

Well since Cobblemaniac already answered the previous question...

You don't really need to trade in an MLB event eido, even just 1 copy with 0 or some limit breaks will give u something.
Something like:
Event SSR eido = 150 orbs (add another 150 per limit break, MLB gives 750)
SSR gacha eido = 750 at LB0 (well im sure you wouldnt want to trade these in unless you're a super whale)
SR eidos = 150 at MLB, 120 at LB3 (why I keep my disaster eidos... though i dont MLB them since it costs 10k gems to do so)

I mostly kept some duplicate SSR event eidos that I got from past raid events, and because of the recent gluttony reprint, I have an MLB'ed duplicate lilim gula to trade in which is already 750 points.... (and up to you if you wanna trade every single lilim you get, i would keep my first original MLB'ed copy though)
Once that raid eido exchange shop comes, I can probably get an MLB'ed jack o lantern already
The hard one to save for is the kaiser dragoons, since they cost 10k orbs.... and every dark main should get the dark kaiser dragoon because it will benefit them greatly even at LB0

Those Kaiser Dragoons will mostly land in your sub and not as your main, if I am correct? Because their summon effect is really awesome (30% dark attack up + light RST)
Well, besides light and dark lilim, I don't think I will need the other's. Therefore I will trade them for orbs.
I will finish Kyuki-Advent battle then I will try to grab Mastema because of Eido Shop and 50 jewels xP
Won't MLB her because of 20.000 gems at the end. Therefore 4 copys will just land in my "gift"-list :p

[BlazeAlter]

Those Kaiser Dragoons will mostly land in your sub and not as your main, if I am correct?
Well, besides light and dark lilim, I don't think I will need the other's. Therefore I will trade them for orbs.
I will finish Kyuki-Advent battle then I will try to grab Mastema because of Eido Shop xP
Won't MLB her because of 20.000 gems at the end. Therefore she will just land in my "gift"-list :p

yep, they're the best sub-stat stick-summon effect-eido you can ask for in the game for any element.
After getting jack o lantern, what I'd do next is get my respective kaiser dragoon element (which would probably take awhile, oh and do note you can only get 1 kaiser dragoon per element once in the shop if you didn't know this already)
and lets say, even if I do get the kaiser dragoon i want from the gacha, id still get the copy from the eido orb exchange shop just to have an LB1 on it which would give it better stats than most event eidos.

[Sora]

yep, they're the best sub-stat stick-summon effect-eido you can ask for in the game for any element.
After getting jack o lantern, what I'd do next is get my respective kaiser dragoon element (which would probably take awhile, oh and do note you can only get 1 kaiser dragoon per element once in the shop if you didn't know this already)
and lets say, even if I do get the kaiser dragoon i want from the gacha, id still get the copy from the eido orb exchange shop just to have an LB1 on it which would give it better stats than most event eidos.

I know.
Well, if I get every single Event SSR Eido then I will have enough orbs to get a Dark Kaiser Dragoon before the end of the year, hopefully.
And I think I will also get a MLB Jack o lantern at the first day of the Eido Shop :p
3.000 orbs are easy and I already have enough useless Eidos to trade for 1.650 orbs xP
I will just keep the Light and Dark Lilim's for Dark/Light 100% Eidos later. The other's are pretty useless imo.

[Slashley]

Those Kaiser Dragoons will mostly land in your sub and not as your main, if I am correct? Because their summon effect is really awesome (30% dark attack up + light RST) --And this increases to a whopping 40% with one limit break. Of course, sadly you can't buy more than one...
I referred to slashley's event encyclopedia here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479)
and it says there that its character atkOops.
I noticed only a week ago that Tiamat was +elem, not char atk. At that time, I checked if there was any other +dbl Eidolons but... I didn't find any. But there's two others, one of which is Trivia. Fixed. Sorry!

For the record, the Encyclopedia has been done using google translate. I do understand moonrunes to a reasonable extent, but it's painful and slow. As such, I can check things like these once I know what to look for. However, there was just wayyyy too much stuff to handle without google translate when making the thing... so there are mistakes. Of course, I fix them whenever I see them.

[BlazeAlter]

And this increases to a whopping 40% with one limit break. Of course, sadly you can't buy more than one...Oops.
I noticed only a week ago that Tiamat was +elem, not char atk. At that time, I checked if there was any other +dbl Eidolons but... I didn't find any. But there's two others, one of which is Trivia. Fixed. Sorry!

For the record, the Encyclopedia has been done using google translate. I do understand moonrunes to a reasonable extent, but it's painful and slow. As such, I can check things like these once I know what to look for. However, there was just wayyyy too much stuff to handle without google translate when making the thing... so there are mistakes. Of course, I fix them whenever I see them.

Oh, so she is elemental atk? That's good to know
I do wonder if that +dbl effect is actually reliable, cuz if its not then I'll probably just stick to using jack o lantern in the future once I get her...
Guess we'll find out soon once Tiamat arrives and do a few tests to confirm

[Sora]

Oh, so she is elemental atk? That's good to know
I do wonder if that +dbl effect is actually reliable, cuz if its not then I'll probably just stick to using jack o lantern in the future once I get her...
Guess we'll find out soon once Tiamat arrives and do a few tests to confirm

So, I was right after all :p
It would be nice if you share your information. I will also grab Tiamat because of her high attack. However I am too lazy to test her and my water team is useless I don't have besides Nike any other Water SR or higher :p

[BlazeAlter]

So, I was right after all :p
It would be nice if you share your information. I will also grab Tiamat because of her high attack. However I am too lazy to test her and my water team is useless I don't have besides Nike any other Water SR or higher :p

Will try, I am sort of trying to "build" a water team, I've just been very lazy about it since there's not much close fire events coming up very soon, so I didn't see the need to do it immediately, but I'll try after getting Tiamat since I'm probably gonna put her in my sub eido grid for all teams anyway

someone else could also do it and share their results, since if they have a well built water team already they would be faster in doing so (and im sure there are a LOT of water mains here and there lol)

[Sora]

Will do, I am sort of trying to "build" a water team, I've just been very lazy about it since there's not much close fire events coming up very soon, so I didn't see the need to do it immediately, but I'll try after getting Tiamat since I'm probably gonna put her in my sub eido grid for all teams anyway

Thank you.
Well, I will run with my dark team for fire Event's... My water team is my weakest element and it's useless. Maybe I will get later more SR/SSR Water Himes ...
But is it actually possible to get old Raid SR Himes? I don't find anything in the JP Wiki shop list >.<

[BlazeAlter]

Thank you.
Well, I will run with my dark team for fire Event's... My water team is my weakest element and it's useless. Maybe I will get later more SR/SSR Water Himes ...
But is it actually possible to get old Raid SR Himes? I don't find anything in the JP Wiki shop list >.<

Yeah, it'll be possible
When they revamp the advent shops (where all the material costs gets reduced, hurray) starting on Illuyanka's advent, something called a raid hime release ticket will be added there which can give you a random raid hime (if you don't have them already)
You're probably gonna have to rely on a bit of RNG for this though since the one you want might not be ensured and you might just get a duplicate or something. still worth a try tho

edit: its this
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you can get a total of 2 as well

[Sora]

Yeah, it'll be possible
When they revamp the advent shops (where all the material costs gets reduced, hurray) starting on Illuyanka's advent, something called a raid hime release ticket will be added there which can give you a random raid hime (if you don't have them already)
You're probably gonna have to rely on a bit of RNG for this though since the one you want might not be ensured and you might just get a duplicate or something. still worth a try tho

Thanks :)
That would be nice because then I could have more versatility for my other teams, especially water >.<

So I think we should now go back to the real topic. We are already talking too much about something else than miracle ticket's xP

[BlazeAlter]

Thanks :)
That would be nice because then I could have more versatility for my other teams.

So I think we should now go back to the real topic. We are already talking too much about something else than miracle ticket's xP

Agreed. lol

[Laventale]

With the miracle ticket coming to a close (yet again), I'll be closing this thread down until the next one arrives.

[Laventale]

Miracle Ticket is here and I wanna fucking kill myself.

Thread opened and sticked.

[Cobblemaniac]

Miracle Ticket is here and I wanna fucking kill myself.

Thread opened and sticked.

Oh boy...

I knew this would come before Artemis, never expected it to be this early tho...

[Laventale]

It should've been Mid-August, not late-July.

Nutaku what the fuck.

[BlazeAlter]

10853
Lol so I was right about it being in late july...
though I'll probably skip this one because of FGO's summer banners, but at least this'll be good for some people

[QXZ]

Which hime would you guys recommend given my current lineup? i currently main light

Light: Awakened Sol / L Tsukuyomi / Eros
Fire: Ares
Wind: Hastur
Thunder: Thor

Since i plan to get Artemis for the next MTix, so I am leaning towards a Dark hime... maybe Hades?

[bigblackcock]

well, that disappointing, hoped it would be later on so i can use the ticket itself during pheonix rematch- but no gonna happen now.
may i can still use it during trivia event though

[FreeToPay]

I managed to get Ifrit and another copy of Archangel in the 10 pull. Finally got SSR Cybele but blew my tomes on awakened Gaia earlier today feelsbadman.

[Slashley]

Oh boy, time for one billion posts about Miracle Tickets.

So, here is a short version of new Hime (that were not on the previous one) on the Ticket that have worth:
Fire: Fire Beelz...? (probably not worth, unless you like dying in a blaze of glory)
Water: Asherah
Wind: SSR Cybele, Set
Thunder: Mammon, Athena
Light: None?
Dark: Thanatos (warning: Amon Unleashed will get reworked into same frame as Thanatos Def Down far down the line), Pluto
Union: Thor. Seriously, if you want to get serious in non-Lust Union events, get the Union element Thor. She's pretty stronk, yo.

Just remember, just because somebody is new, doesn't mean that you can't pick somebody older. Just as an example, if you don't have Svarog, you don't have a Fire team. For the whales, Kaisers are in this Ticket too, but for everyone else... stick to Hime.
It should've been Mid-August, not late-July.

Nutaku what the fuck.Gotta cash in, yo.

[Laventale]

Gotta cash in, yo.

They can't cash my money in if I have no money until who knows when...

[Torkov]

If your team have already 2-3 SSR and have a nice punch, wouldn't it be more useful to buy one of these 100% eidolon with this miracle ticket?

[Slashley]

If your team have already 2-3 SSR and have a nice punch, wouldn't it be more useful to buy one of these 100% eidolon with this miracle ticket?Even if you had 0 SSRs, it'd be more useful to buy those 100% Eidolons with the Miracle Ticket. Those things are serious shit, yo.
... fuck, I've slept too little, I have yo's in my head...

Anyway, 100% Eidolons aren't part of Miracle Tickets. Those are only available in the 150 Dragon Eye ticket. One SSR costs on average 200 bucks, so that thing costs effectively 30k dollars. Not available on Nutaku just yet, though.

[MagicSpice]

i'm tempted to go for one of 6 choices

Amaterasu (obvious reasons), SSR Nike (could replace both snow raph and aphrodite while buffing the team), cthulu (obivous reasons), Titania (now has shingen with a lot of burst rate up kami), michael (prep for her later on plus my light team is the strongest), and God Kaiser Dragoon (again, light is strongest team and I did get the break limit item from the grab bag a while back).

decisions... decisions.... i'm a bit lost on my move here...



If your team have already 2-3 SSR and have a nice punch, wouldn't it be more useful to buy one of these 100% eidolon with this miracle ticket?

slashley answered this, so check that for the 100% part.

what I have to add is that kaiser dragoons are a part of it so they're top eidolon priority.... being pretty much THE BEST sub slot eidolons you can ever get.

if you're trying to make the best (yet reasonable) team you can get, you'll want both a 100% eidolon and a kaiser of your strongest element...

even if you're trying to get the strongest possible team, this wouldn't change... but your sub slots would be filled with kaisers and you'd get the future 120% eidolons... only someone with an abyss of a wallet could pull that off though (we're talking beyond kraken/space whale)

[Raistlansol]

I'm really struggling to pick as well.

I'm down to either Cthulhu, Mammon, Asherah or Svarog.

Right now I've got Amaterasu, Mars, Uriel, Ares AW for fire.
Brahma, Raiko, Tyr, Thor AW for lightning.
Ryu-oh, Snow Raphael, Shiva, Aphrodite, Atalanta for water.

I'm leaning slightly towards Mammon for lightning, but am also wondering about just assigning them numbers and rolling a D20.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[Slashley]

Right now I've got Amaterasu, Mars, Uriel, Ares AW for fire.
Brahma, Raiko, Tyr, Thor AW for lightning.
Ryu-oh, Snow Raphael, Shiva, Aphrodite, Atalanta for water.You have really good teams for all three. So it's just a matter of which team do you want to complete. Personal preference - which team do you like to play the most?

Standalone, Svarog is by the far the strongest Hime out of the bunch.

Since you have Ryu-Oh and Atalanta, I'm not sure if Cthulhu would be worth it for you. Is Cthulhu better than Atalanta? Absolutely. But Asherah would bring more for your team, since she allows you to use Provisional Forest.

[Raistlansol]

You have really good teams for all three. So it's just a matter of which team do you want to complete. Personal preference - which team do you like to play the most?

Standalone, Svarog is by the far the strongest Hime out of the bunch.

Since you have Ryu-Oh and Atalanta, I'm not sure if Cthulhu would be worth it for you. Is Cthulhu better than Atalanta? Absolutely. But Asherah would bring more for your team, since she allows you to use Provisional Forest.

Thanks Slashley.

Out of those 3, probably fire, but I'm not sure about who I'd swap out for Svarog. Uriel? But her awakening looks pretty nuts too. My instincts and the dice roll are telling me to get Asherah, but I like Svarog's design the most...

[Slashley]

Thanks Slashley.

Out of those 3, probably fire, but I'm not sure about who I'd swap out for Svarog. Uriel? But her awakening looks pretty nuts too. My instincts and the dice roll are telling me to get Asherah, but I like Svarog's design the most...You dropping Ares is the easiest option. Mars-Amaterasu is the easiest way to hit Def debuff cap with either Ambush or Hercules, whileas Svarog-Uriel are some of the strongest Hime in the game once Awakened. Note that you can drop Mars and/or Amaterasu depending on content, since Ares obviously does more damage than either of those. But how well you can survive or deal damage (debuffs until Herc burst) without them is another matter, thus again, depends on content.

Svarog is absolutely insane. Not only does she give your entire team a 100% uptime 40% Assault buff, but her damage cap is literally broken. Let's have a look at some Hime:
Awakened Brahma: 720k cap, 6t CD (120k/t) (Awakening gives fuck-all to Brahma's nuke, her benefits are elsewhere)
Awakened Acala: 900k, 7t (128k/t) (only against Raging, massive 8.5 modifier)
Azazel: 650k, 5t (130k/t)
SSR Artemis: 520k + 300k, 6t (136k/t)
Awakened Susanoo: 704k, 5t (140k/t)
Awakened Ares: 875k, 6t (145k/t)
Svarog: 600k, 3t (200k/t)
Awakened Thor: 450k + 750k, 6t (200k/t) (note: extremely hard to hit cap due to non-multihit, second ability easy to cap at low HP)
Mammon: 190k + 190k + 700k, 3+7+6t (207k/t) (third ability supposedly easy to cap with Dartagnan's help)
Shiva: 600k + 600k, 5+6t (220k/t) (note: extremely hard to hit cap due to non-multihits, probably just doesn't happen particularly for the second ability)

Awakened Svarog: 900k, 3t (300k/t)

...

I mean, let's face it. It's obvious that they typoed Svarog's damage cap, and then they just rolled with it. Awakened Svarog's third ability is even more hilarious since it gives you 3x attacks every 3 turns, so... assuming you're not hitting that damage cap, Svarog is literally punching twice every turn. Plus the baseline 3*1 of course, so three times every turn on average. It's pretty difficult to find any Hime who can deal more than her, except maybe from the self-murdering Hime DMM has been releasing lately. But those will either kill themselves or require a fuck-ton of healing.


But again. Go with whatever you find the most fun to play. That's what games are for, right? Having fun will help your motivation, and Kamihime is a marathon.

[Unregistered]

Svarog it is. She is one of my favourite looking hime so that helps too.

Thanks heaps for your help, and I hope your assistance to me helps others as well, that post was incredibly detailed.

[Cobblemaniac]

Well... comes my input for recommendations.

Water
Existing himes: Snow Raphy SSR Nike Cthulhu Ea Triton Belphegor
Candidates: Asherah (no shit I guess lol)

Wind
Existing himes: Gaia awakened, Hastur, Summer Poseidon
Candidates:
SSR Cybele
Titania
Cu Chulainn(...?)

Fire
Existing hime: Heph, Amaterasu, Ares awakened
Candidates:
Svarog (most likely)
Uriel (maybe?)
Mars (hmm...)

Light
Existing: Raphael, Sol awakened, Djehuti
Candidates:
Light Tsuku

Thinking of going for wind this time mostly, but I’ll list down my other teams just in case someone else thinks differently.

Wind-wise, Cybele would probably be the best option to free up sniper shot for another EX, if I run Hercules I would run PF. If I were to go Shingen however, I’m thinking Titania might be the better option, while I simply stick to sniper shot EX.

My light team... is basically waiting for light tsuku and SSR Artemis. Not sure how much more viable it would become if I do pull Arty on her day (a rather big if...), but say I do... worth completing the team?

Fire is well... most ppl would recommend Svarog here I guess, but I’m kinda thinking Uriel if I look forward to her future awakening. If anyone can tell me which one is better in the long run, that would help. Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already
And the other question would be if fire is even worth investing in my case in the first place. Mars is probably not necessary given I can hit debuff cap with Herc Heph Amaterasu

Then there’s water, which I’ve basically spent about half a year’s worth of investment in. Without Asherah I’m basically capped, but at this point I’m questioning the need, or the actual point, of boosting my water further...

[Xenosis69]

Hi, there, I'm having trouble deciding which Kamihime I should choose.

It might seem easy for you, experienced players, but here's the thing.

I recently got Rudra so I'm seriously focusing on Water, my actual team is :
Mordred + Shiva + Gabriel + Atalanta + Triton

And i'm thinking of replacing Gabriel with either Ryu-Oh or Nike (Unleashed).
Thing is, I should get D'Artagnan at this end of this event as well as my first Soul Weapon so here's my dilemna :

Do I go for something like
D'Artagnan (with Soul Weapon and Black Propaganda) + Shiva + Nike (Unleashed) + Atalanta + Triton
This way I would get -50% def, -45% atk, +40% atk, some nice healing and overdrive meter increase, overall pretty nice
Andromeda (with Soul Weapon and Sniper Shot) + Shiva + Ryu-Oh + Atalanta + Triton
Would still be able to get to -50%def, -40% atk, +20% atk, nice def buff thanks to the soul weapon staff (or should I go with Spear ?) and still overdrive meter increase
What's your opinion ?

[Cobblemaniac]

Hi, there, I'm having trouble deciding which Kamihime I should choose.

It might seem easy for you, experienced players, but here's the thing.

I recently got Rudra so I'm seriously focusing on Water, my actual team is :
Mordred + Shiva + Gabriel + Atalanta + Triton

And i'm thinking of replacing Gabriel with either Ryu-Oh or Nike (Unleashed).
Thing is, I should get D'Artagnan at this end of this event as well as my first Soul Weapon so here's my dilemna :

Do I go for something like
D'Artagnan (with Soul Weapon and Black Propaganda) + Shiva + Nike (Unleashed) + Atalanta + Triton
This way I would get -50% def, -45% atk, +40% atk, some nice healing and overdrive meter increase, overall pretty nice
Andromeda (with Soul Weapon and Sniper Shot) + Shiva + Ryu-Oh + Atalanta + Triton
Would still be able to get to -50%def, -40% atk, +20% atk, nice def buff thanks to the soul weapon staff (or should I go with Spear ?) and still overdrive meter increase
What's your opinion ?

Alright, first things first: You need to get soul priorities correct. Soul weapons are quite the hefty investment, so you don't want to be investing for short term gains. D'Art and Andro's soul weapons won't do, D'Art because her assault relic skill buff is trash, and water isn't short on debuffs to begin with. Andro... is just generally bad in the long run.

The weapon you'll want to invest in is Hercules' assault weapon (forget defender). Yes, even if you don't have her. Much more so if you don't have her, because that means you likely don't have the means to get an MLB relic any time soon most likely. By the time you gather 120 regalias you'll likely have unlocked Hercules in the meantime. Why is Hercules so good? 25% def break on burst, combo buffs that actually have good proc rate, a relatively good nuke, tanky as hell, and takes 1 turn off any EX skill you run. Nothing really screams all rounder like she does.

Since you seem to be a bit early in the game, the miracle selection will be a bit tougher for you...

Honestly however, I recommend Ryu-Oh, while running Andromeda (without relic. Seriously, don't waste your regalia) temporarily, considering her better debuff coverage compared to Nike, as well as freeing up your EX slot so you don't have to run BP.

[Unregistered]

MT Choice:

I am not sure which KH I should get now.

Fire:
- Svarog
- Uriel
- Mars
- Amaterasu

I won't use a MT for this one.

Dark:
- Satan
- Osiris
- Dark Amaterasu

Priority: Pluto because I am saving for Chernobog or Berith.

Light:
- Sol AW
- Diana
- Belobog
- Djehuti

Priority: Light Tsuku.

Wind:
- Gaia AW
- Freja
- Odin
- SR Cybele

Priority: SSR Cybele or Hatsur.

What do you think?

[Unregistered]

Which hime would you guys recommend given my current lineup? i currently main light

Light: Awakened Sol / L Tsukuyomi / Eros
Fire: Ares
Wind: Hastur
Thunder: Thor

Since i plan to get Artemis for the next MTix, so I am leaning towards a Dark hime... maybe Hades?

Sorry but why Hades seriously?

I don't know which Dark SSR KHs you have but I would instantly go for Satan.
Next month we will get her AW and she alone will provide 25%def down. + Herc relic = def cap reached.

I would never consider Hades as a MT-Choice, unless Waifu reason.

[QXZ]

Sorry but why Hades seriously?

I don't know which Dark SSR KHs you have but I would instantly go for Satan.
Next month we will get her AW and she alone will provide 25%def down. + Herc relic = def cap reached.

I would never consider Hades as a MT-Choice, unless Waifu reason.

i was thinking Satan / Amon is kinda interchangeable - for now anyways - so Hades would be a versatile pick. but i see ur point that firepower department is probably lacking.

Anyone else able to comment on this? I wanna check with a second opinion before blowing the ticket. Thanks!

[Meltdown]

Miracle Ticket time already. I didn't think I'd need advice on this one, it was going to be SSR Cybele and done but now I'm not sure given my wind team is doing pretty good in the current event and perhaps one of my other teams could use the buff instead. Right now I've got the following SSRs

Fire - Amaterasu, Acala, Mars, Yamaraja
Water - Shiva, Poseidon, Aphrodite, Ryu-Oh, Cthulthu, Water Raph
Wind - Cu Chulainn, Odin, Gaia (AW), Titania (AW)
Lightning - Raiko, Brahma, Tyr (AW), Athena
Dark - Satan, Amon Unleashed, Susanoo
Light - Michael, Raphael, Metatron, Light Satan, Light Tsuki, Eros, Shamash, Sol (AW)

SSR Arty will be the obvious choice for the next ticket (I say that now) to get rid of Diana in my light team but now I'm not sure that SSR Cybele is enough of an upgrade over Cu to warrant taking her. Her B debuff would be awesome and free up Shingen to take something else but getting Cu to burst seems about as easy as I expect Cybele to be. Cybele is still on the short list.

Fire seems to scream Svarog and it is one of my weakest teams. Lightning despite being just being my SSR tossed in a team works ok. I just recently awakened Tyr. But there are some good SSRs out there that would tune them up more. I'm just not sure which one would be best.

Dark is a mess and certainly my weakest team since Fire at least can debuff away. They're still capable of any event so far and when I get Susanoo awakened it should help more. Again I'm not sure where to go with this team right now. I know in the future they'll be in a good place when Satan awakens and Amon gets adjusted but is it worth swapping one of them (Amon I'm guessing) or Lu Bu for someone else.

I guess I'm just not sure if it's better to 'finish' my wind team for now or to help out one of my weaker teams.

[SKY100]

Need some help for miracle ticket exchange.

Currently, I have awakened Sol, LT, Shamash, Diana, Demeter and Djehuti. If I want to build a light team, which kamihime I should choose? I consider about Michael but she may not be awakened very soon. And I am wondering if choosing Eros or Raphael is better. It's a pity that Artemis hasn't been released.

Thanks a lot.

[QXZ]

Need some help for miracle ticket exchange.

Currently, I have awakened Sol, LT, Shamash, Diana, Demeter and Djehuti. If I want to build a light team, which kamihime I should choose? I consider about Michael but she may not be awakened very soon. And I am wondering if choosing Eros or Raphael is better. It's a pity that Artemis hasn't been released.

Thanks a lot.

i am facing a similar problem as you. i have Sol / LT / Eros. for me, I think i will start building a dark team to compliment.

as for you, Michael or Eros will work fine. i would not recommend Raphael, she doesnt bring enuf to justify a spot on the roster.

[HugMeTender]

So Mammon seems the obvious choice since my Thunder team is my strongest. However I always have to sub Sol for a Thunder Hime in my team so I have heals.

The Soul I use most often is Dart because of Thunder's lack of debuffs so I guess I can't change souls to the healer lady.

Edit: Should I still invest in Thunder, or is it a flawed element because I either lack heals or debuffs.

[Unregistered]

MT Choice:

I am not sure which KH I should get now.

Fire:
- Svarog
- Uriel
- Mars
- Amaterasu

I won't use a MT for this one.

Dark:
- Satan
- Osiris
- Dark Amaterasu

Priority: Pluto because I am saving for Chernobog or Berith.

Light:
- Sol AW
- Diana
- Belobog
- Djehuti

Priority: Light Tsuku.

Wind:
- Gaia AW
- Freja
- Odin
- SR Cybele

Priority: SSR Cybele or Hatsur.


I am more considering to get Pluto or Light Tsuku.......

[Laventale]

MT Choice:

I am not sure which KH I should get now.

Fire:
- Svarog
- Uriel
- Mars
- Amaterasu

I won't use a MT for this one.

Dark:
- Satan
- Osiris
- Dark Amaterasu

Priority: Pluto because I am saving for Chernobog or Berith.

Light:
- Sol AW
- Diana
- Belobog
- Djehuti

Priority: Light Tsuku.

Wind:
- Gaia AW
- Freja
- Odin
- SR Cybele

Priority: SSR Cybele or Hatsur.


I am more considering to get Pluto or Light Tsuku.......

Even with Bunny, your Light won't be as strong if you add Pluto to your Dark line-up.

[QXZ]

can anyone comment on what himes would you pick if you are starting a dark team from scratch?

[Unregistered]

can anyone comment on what himes would you pick if you are starting a dark team from scratch?

Satan >>> Thanatos/Amon U currently ofc.

Already mentioned it but next month we will get Satans AW and she will get 10% dark RST added+orb eater+BG up for herself.
25% def down is really nice and Dark RST.
I wouldn't get Pluto if you don't have Satan, Tahantos or Amon U.
Because Pluto alone won't make your dark team playble.

[LeCrestfallen]

If you start from scratch, reroll till you get a good dark hime for a start. Going completely from scratch is a bad call, to many options to go for. Short/mid term satan, long term Pluto/Amon U, other good choices would include short term thana/hades. Niche picks Osiris ~~

Just reroll till you get atleast one good start dark ssr hime before you try to Miracle one imo.

[Unregistered]

If you start from scratch, reroll till you get a good dark hime for a start. Going completely from scratch is a bad call, to many options to go for. Short/mid term satan, long term Pluto/Amon U, other good choices would include short term thana/hades. Niche picks Osiris ~~

Just reroll till you get atleast one good start dark ssr hime before you try to Miracle one imo.

I don't think he wants to reroll...

He rather wants to know which KH he should get to have a dark team.

And Satan is long term. Amon U is nice next year, but I still wouldn't MT her. I would go with Samael then instead of her, if you want AoE Def down.
Depends what kind of dark team you want too and content.

[QXZ]

Satan >>> Thanatos/Amon U currently ofc.

Already mentioned it but next month we will get Satans AW and she will get 10% dark RST added+orb eater+BG up for herself.
25% def down is really nice and Dark RST.
I wouldn't get Pluto if you don't have Satan, Tahantos or Amon U.
Because Pluto alone won't make your dark team playble.

Thanks, Satan it is.

@LeCrestfallen - i m not re-rolling, i m adding a dark team to compliment my main Light.

[blubbergott]

Gotta say, this time I have absolutely no clue what to pick. Currently I have:

Light:
Sol AW, Tsuku, Michael, Shamash, Atum, Diana, Djehuti, Belo

Nothing to get here really. Eros/Raphi not worth the MT imo.

Wind:
Hraes + Titania AW, Cu, Azazel, Set, Oberon

Obvious choice would be Cybele to replace Oberon and just run Shingen with Ambush. Question is if I really need her with Hraes. Kinda stomping on Thunder content anyways currently and with Hraes helper I cap out def down anyways.

Thunder:
Kirin + Athena, Jupiter, Cyclops, Astraea, Nemesis

Option 1: Mammon. Definitely the best choice when it comes to improving the team. Ambush D'Art is a pain.
Option 2: Thor. Obviously this would be for union events.

Fire:
Amaterasu, Ares AW, Dakki, Yama, Brynhildr, Hepha, Raguel

Definitely would pick up Mars for this. Only hitting 40% def down can be quite annoying.

Water:
Ryu, Poseidon, Saras, Belph, Atalante, Venus

Bonus points for fire tower being the first one. Guess my pick here would be Ashy, probably to replace either Saras (PF Herc or Sniper Shingen with Atalante) or Belph (Sniper Herc). Would definitely open up some more options.

Dark:
Osiris, Susanoo AW, Nephthys, Nyarla, Beelze

Dark's currently definitely my weakest element, which kinda makes me want to get something for it. Then again, there are 4 decent options (Satan, Amon, Thanatos, Pluto) right now and since the other teams mostly are just missing one core hime, I'm kinda reluctant to spend the MT on Dark. Guess if any, I'd most likely pick up Satan.

Was really hoping to narrow down my choices a bit until MT arrives, but since the only SSR I got from the last 350 pulls was an Eido and guaranteed was a dupe, that didn't happen at all. Absolutely no clue what to pick. Happy about any suggestions.

[Aidoru]

I'm not sure what your preferences are when it comes to team building, but if I had your roster, I'd would have gone Cybele just because you have Hraes, as I'd rather focus on getting a team with such a valuable eidolon to its strongest. I mean sure you probably already destroy thunder events with your current team but I think it'd be pretty fun to just destroy everything in general with it. But that's just me, you can wait for more opinions as you have multiple choices.

[Kuroi]

So I am planning on getting myself a Miracle Ticket, however I have no idea who I should get. Hopefully will find some good advice from here.

Currently have:

Water:
Strongest team, also have Rudra.
SSR: Asherah, Saraswati, Poseidon
SR: Atalanta, Belphegor.

Fire:
One of my weakest teams with SR's only such as Amon, Agni, Motu, Brynhildr, Ragaraja.

Dark:
SSR: Thanatos
SR: Meretseger, Eligos

Thunder:
Full SR lineup with Baal, Nemesis, Cyclops, Ramiel.

Wind:
SSR: Cu Chulainn
SR: Krampus, Cybele, Principality, Freya

Light:
SSR: Tsukuyomi, Shamash
SR: Djehuti, Diana, Belobog, Uzume, Demeter

Should I continue strengthening my Water lineup or start focusing on others such as Light/Wind?

[Unregistered]

My current Dark Team is:
Hades / Osiris / Thanatos

I'm thinking either Satan, Pluto, or Amon U.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[Unregistered]

My current Dark Team is:
Hades / Osiris / Thanatos

I'm thinking either Satan, Pluto, or Amon U.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Definitely Satan over Amon, since you have Thanatos and Amon will be altered to a c-frame def down same as thanatos in the future. Would also get Satan over Pluto, myself.

[blubbergott]

I'm not sure what your preferences are when it comes to team building, but if I had your roster, I'd would have gone Cybele just because you have Hraes, as I'd rather focus on getting a team with such a valuable eidolon to its strongest. I mean sure you probably already destroy thunder events with your current team but I think it'd be pretty fun to just destroy everything in general with it. But that's just me, you can wait for more opinions as you have multiple choices.

Ye, guess it's between her and Mammon. Mammon would make playing thunder less annoying (Ambush D'Art is a pain), while Cybele would give me a lot more flexibility. I'll have to sleep over it.

[anonZ]

I've been playing for a while now, unlocked most of the souls barring shingen, and I've been relatively lucky, I'm planning on grabbing a miracle ticket and can use some advice on who to get?

Water- Cthulhu / Snow Raph
Light - Michael / Awakened Sol
Fire - Ares / Dakki / Yamaraja
Darkness - Thanatos / Susanoo
Wind - Cybele Unleashed, Titania
Thunder - Tyr

I mainly use my water and light team cause they have the most complete spread of weapons i have atm and I saw in one of the guides that Nike Unleashed would be a good invenstment but I'm not sure if that was still up to date to the current meta, also have been considering building up my fire team as well.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Xenosis69]

Alright, first things first: You need to get soul priorities correct. Soul weapons are quite the hefty investment, so you don't want to be investing for short term gains. D'Art and Andro's soul weapons won't do, D'Art because her assault relic skill buff is trash, and water isn't short on debuffs to begin with. Andro... is just generally bad in the long run.

The weapon you'll want to invest in is Hercules' assault weapon (forget defender). Yes, even if you don't have her. Much more so if you don't have her, because that means you likely don't have the means to get an MLB relic any time soon most likely. By the time you gather 120 regalias you'll likely have unlocked Hercules in the meantime. Why is Hercules so good? 25% def break on burst, combo buffs that actually have good proc rate, a relatively good nuke, tanky as hell, and takes 1 turn off any EX skill you run. Nothing really screams all rounder like she does.

Since you seem to be a bit early in the game, the miracle selection will be a bit tougher for you...

Honestly however, I recommend Ryu-Oh, while running Andromeda (without relic. Seriously, don't waste your regalia) temporarily, considering her better debuff coverage compared to Nike, as well as freeing up your EX slot so you don't have to run BP.
Ok great, first of all, let me tell you thanks for the last part of your message, that's pretty much what I was going for, just needed some more advices about it.

But. The reason why I didn't talk about anything else than my few Water himes is because I didn't want random elitist advices like the one you gave me about Hercules and Soul weapons. Not gonna say anything about the fact you assumed I'm "new" to the game also. Nothing interesting, just, I wasn't asking for that, so no reason to talk about it (and I didn't really needed these aswell).

Anyway, thanks for the last sentence.

[Laventale]

Water- Cthulhu / Snow Raph
Light - Michael / Awakened Sol

I mainly use my water and light team cause they have the most complete spread of weapons

Bunny, thank me later.

[Unregistered]

Looking to expand my current water team

Soul: Herc (Jeanne / Mordred depending on the situation)
Himes: SSR: Snow Raphael, Cthulhu, Awakened Sol
SR: Belphegor, Triton, Parvati

I'm seeing several recommendations in Ryu Oh, Aphrodite, Ea, Poseidon, or Nike but I'm not really sure which one to pick.

[LeCrestfallen]

Looking to expand my current water team

Soul: Herc (Jeanne / Mordred depending on the situation)
Himes: SSR: Snow Raphael, Cthulhu, Awakened Sol
SR: Belphegor, Triton, Parvati

I'm seeing several recommendations in Ryu Oh, Aphrodite, Ea, Poseidon, or Nike but I'm not really sure which one to pick.
atleast not poseidon, EA, or Nike. the first 2 are not even that good, i would not know how to justify using miracle ticket on Nike U myself. Ryu, asherath sound more like options to pick from.

[Laventale]

Looking to expand my current water team

Soul: Herc (Jeanne / Mordred depending on the situation)
Himes: SSR: Snow Raphael, Cthulhu, Awakened Sol
SR: Belphegor, Triton, Parvati

I'm seeing several recommendations in Ryu Oh, Aphrodite, Ea, Poseidon, or Nike but I'm not really sure which one to pick.

I'm not sure who was the fucker to recommend you Ea, let me know who he is and I'll personally ban him for being a stupid cunt.

Anyway, Cthulhu and Triton share the same Attack debuff frame, so I'd recommend you to get another Water hime.

http://puu.sh/B4hIR/31ba573930.png

Here's the debuff table, having Nike U or Ryu-Oh would make your water a whole lot stronger, that or Asherah to further increase your Water punch power.

[Ikki]

Looking to expand my current water team

Soul: Herc (Jeanne / Mordred depending on the situation)
Himes: SSR: Snow Raphael, Cthulhu, Awakened Sol
SR: Belphegor, Triton, Parvati

I'm seeing several recommendations in Ryu Oh, Aphrodite, Ea, Poseidon, or Nike but I'm not really sure which one to pick.

Get ashy, hands down, herc weapon + cthulhu + raphy is enough for 50% def down, and a water team with and without ashy is like heaven and earth, also slap the guy who recommended all those without including ashy.

[Cobblemaniac]

Well... comes my input for recommendations.

Water
Existing himes: Snow Raphy SSR Nike Cthulhu Ea Triton Belphegor
Candidates: Asherah (no shit I guess lol)

Wind
Existing himes: Gaia awakened, Hastur, Summer Poseidon
Candidates:
SSR Cybele
Titania
Cu Chulainn(...?)

Fire
Existing hime: Heph, Amaterasu, Ares awakened
Candidates:
Svarog (most likely)
Uriel (maybe?)
Mars (hmm...)

Light
Existing: Raphael, Sol awakened, Djehuti
Candidates:
Light Tsuku

Thinking of going for wind this time mostly, but I’ll list down my other teams just in case someone else thinks differently.

Wind-wise, Cybele would probably be the best option to free up sniper shot for another EX, if I run Hercules I would run PF. If I were to go Shingen however, I’m thinking Titania might be the better option, while I simply stick to sniper shot EX.

My light team... is basically waiting for light tsuku and SSR Artemis. Not sure how much more viable it would become if I do pull Arty on her day (a rather big if...), but say I do... worth completing the team?

Fire is well... most ppl would recommend Svarog here I guess, but I’m kinda thinking Uriel if I look forward to her future awakening. If anyone can tell me which one is better in the long run, that would help. Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already
And the other question would be if fire is even worth investing in my case in the first place. Mars is probably not necessary given I can hit debuff cap with Herc Heph Amaterasu

Then there’s water, which I’ve basically spent about half a year’s worth of investment in. Without Asherah I’m basically capped, but at this point I’m questioning the need, or the actual point, of boosting my water further...

Didn't get an answer, so bumping myself a bit shamelessly :silly:

[nonsensei]

Didn't get an answer, so bumping myself a bit shamelessly :silly:

If you want to make an already good team into OP, then it's Asherah, hands down.

If you want to upgrade a less invested team, from what you listed:
Wind: I'd say Titania with Shingen(Sniper). Tho you'd be dependent on Hraes friends in this case. Then again, you will probably use Hraes no matter in content that matters, so it doesn't really work as a restricting factor in the end.
Fire: Yeah, most likely Svarog in your case. She's a freakin' dmg machine, and since you got debuffs covered (with actually accurate debuffs), Mars wouldn't mean too big gain. As for Uriel, she's another kind of dmg machine, but I'd say the Svarog prevails due to the party buff. (Not expert on fire stuff, tho).
Light: As a light main, I know how big of a jump Tsuku means. Her light resist down is much appreciated, her blind is damn effective. But you can't expect much more from her. She opens a way to reach def debuff cap for light & that's about it if you don't throw light at everything. But with Herc in, reaching debuff cap is available for light by f2p means alone (we just got Demeter through original means).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/471584123132051457.png?v=1

So yeah, in case you wanna strengthen your less invested teams, it's either Titania or Svarog. Svarog would draw out the potential of fire to a decent extent, Uriel & Mars from there on would be just.. well, not marginal gains, but not game changing improvements. Your wind wouldn't be that close to maximum potential with Titania, but your aim is to improve the team, she's probably the best pick.
And again, Asherah if you just want to complete an already well-invested team.

Also..
Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already

Damn lolicon.

[Unregistered]

Im trying to main Dark, but the last ssr kamis always were other elements (Ea, Svarog, Mikael, trhee eidolons. Seriously wtf). So now I have the chance to choice a kami.

I already have Satan (waiting for akakening next month), Sussanno (not awakened cause is not worthy) and Osiris. Belzebub fill the last spot and recently I run Jaune with Sniper Shot to complete AQ4 Easely.

I guess Thanatos is the only option for her C frame def. With that cover I just need to wait for the dark soul weapons to release and get the herc f#cking op axe.

[nonsensei]

Im trying to main Dark, but the last ssr kamis always were other elements (Ea, Svarog, Mikael, trhee eidolons. Seriously wtf). So now I have the chance to choice a kami.

I already have Satan (waiting for akakening next month), Sussanno (not awakened cause is not worthy) and Osiris. Belzebub fill the last spot and recently I run Jaune with Sniper Shot to complete AQ4 Easely.

I guess Thanatos is the only option for her C frame def. With that cover I just need to wait for the dark soul weapons to release and get the herc f#cking op axe.

If you wanna mtix a dark unit, I'd definitely go with Pluto. She's just too good of a buffer & can also fill the slot of a front unit for burst cycle due to her passive DATA according to the stacks.

[Cobblemaniac]

Your wind wouldn't be that close to maximum potential with Titania

What's considered full potential for me for wind currently and in the future anyway? :think:

If possible, do you mind doing a quick breakdown between the wind choices (Titania and Cybele)? I'm actually not that familiar with the concept of machine gun bursting with wind, considering I literally just picked it up because Hastur pull and I main water. And summer Poseidon when I blew all my jewels for summer Sol. That was an experience.

That said, I do get where most of these picks come from. The next worry I have is...


in case you wanna strengthen your less invested teams


if you just want to complete an already well-invested team.

That's... my dilemma. In one retrospect, having Asherah to power me through content would be swell. In another, that technically only works for like... a couple more events before guild order comes in, and I'll have hell to deal with once the 3rd element comes in (2nd element is water, nothing I can really do since my thunder is ass).

If I do pick my less invested team, I'm guessing going for the element that helps my main's weakness, therefore wind, is probably the wiser choice? Or is it the case that I can likely deal with most thunder content with my setup and should focus on dealing with wind content with my fire girls?

Thanks for the inputs btw :grin:


Damn lolicon.

I have issues okay

[HugMeTender]

So Mammon seems the obvious choice since my Thunder team is my strongest. However I always have to sub Sol for a Thunder Hime in my team so I have heals.

The Soul I use most often is Dart because of Thunder's lack of debuffs so I guess I can't change souls to the healer lady.

Edit: Should I still invest in Thunder, or is it a flawed element because I either lack heals or debuffs.

Didn't catch a reply so I'll just quote.

For my light team, my weapons and Eidolon are horrendous, but I DO have Sol, Shamash, and light Tsuku, which makes me one light Hime from a full team.

My Thunder team is currently Athena, Brahma, Nemesis, and Sol (need those heals)

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[Ginger D Arc]

Issues be damned, I'm with Cobblemaniac.. I love me a good Loli!

Okay, so, I'll show-off my list of Kamihime and notable Eidolons.
The list is long, I'm only missing a few. But, I want to make this MT count, since the Regalia and MT gachas didn't give me anything..

Fire:
- Amaterasu, Acala, [Summer Sun] Sol, Uriel, Svarog [AW], [Emperor of Hell] Beelzebub
- Nova Kaiser Dragoon

Water:
- Poseidon, Aphrodite, Ryu-Oh, Cthulhu, Ea, [Snow Angel] Raphael, Saraswati, Asherah
- Rudra, Aqua Kaiser Dragoon

Wind:
- Odin, Hastur, Gaia [AW]
- Hraesvelgr

Thunder:
- Raiko, Brahma, [Thunder Witch] Michael, Jupiter, Tyr [AW], Thor [AW], Marduk, Athena

Dark:
- Satan, Amon [Unleashed], Osiris, Nephthys, Pluto, Hades [AW]
- Evil Kaiser Dragoon ***

Light:
- Metatron, [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Atum, Shamash, Sol [AW]



I'm kinda leaning towards Cybele [Unleashed] or Set to stimulate my wind team, and make Hraes meritorious.