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ShiroSeigi
12-27-2017, 01:58 PM
Genre - Clicker, Idle (more idle than clicker tho)

How to play - Left click, Z, X, or space are all considered 'clicking' for the clicker part of the game.

Main gameplay -
- kill monsters by clicking: get coins
- waiting for npc allies to kill everything: get coins

Rare boss drops -
- Random Element shard
- Heart of Eradine (premium currency)

Elemental weakness and resistance -
- element circle: x2 damage or x1/2 damage
- outer circle: Fire > Leaf (wood?) > Lightning > Water > Fire ...etc
- inner circle: Light > Heart > Dark > Light
(not sure why dark beats light, but w/e)

_ Cost 'coins' _ (used as standard in-game currency)- unlock Nymphs to get passive dps
- upgrade Nymphs for higher passive dps/better super nymph abilities
- unlock 'Power Move' activate-able at various stages. Power Moves have very long cooldowns: ~30 minutes
- upgrade Power Moves for higher damage/better effects
- upgrade 'cosmo' (player?), increase 'click' damage

_ Cost 'Heart of Eradine' _ (used as main 'premium currency')- can be gained rarely by playing normally (achievements), daily spins, rebirth, or Nutaku gold purchase

- unlock/(purchase) super Nymph slots. Equip normal Nymph into slot to be able to 'cast'/use high damage abilities
--(all abilities have cast time) (nymphs can be swapped out and re-equiped at any time for no additional cost)
-- Slot #1 cost: 1Heart (given in tutorial)
-- Slot #2: 2H
-- Slot #3: 5H
-- Slot #4: 10H
-- Slot #5: 25H

- purchase 'shards of eradine' (or just element shards, w/e) for hearts, can also be earned very rarely in other ways
- purchase limited time 'coin bonus' to get 1000% coin drops for a certain amount of time (1 hour, 4 hrs, 8 hrs, 7 days)

- 'unlock' (purchase) "active bonus" (though it's totally passive)
-- only 1 bonus can be equipped at a time
-- first level costs 1 heart, lvl 2 costs 2 hearts (there are 7 diamonds representing each lvl ... so, max lvl 7?)
-- there are only 4 possible bonuses: +passive dps, +click dps, +% drops, +nymph attack speed (unsure if effects only super nymphs or not)

_ Cost 'Shards of Eradine' _ (they're just element shards)- 'evolve' nymphs to a higher/better form, dps gain, additional gallery unlocked (better portraits, but battle sprites remain the same)
cost appears to be ramping: 1, 2, 5, ?, ?, etc
each unlocked stage gives +50% Nymph dps (i.e. stage 2 gives +100%, stage 3 gives +150%, etc)
max limit is unknown, but each nymph has a set number of galleries

Initial thoughts: (note, that I have played hero clicker and some other clicker games before)- it's immediately apparent that 'clicking' is completely (virtually) worthless in this game. just upgrade nymphs and let them do damage
- super nymphs are (nearly) game breaking in terms of damage
- coins do not come in fast enough to counteract the rate of upgrade cost (so there's probably gonna be a lot of waiting)
- bosses have ~10x hp as the normal mobs, so if your super nymphs do all your damage, it's likely you'll be stuck on a boss for a long while
- strangely, it seems cheaper to unlock a new nymph than it is to upgrade most of the current ones
- activated abilities have obscenely long cool-downs
- achievements are pretty lack-luster in terms of rewards, so mainly just for novelty, I guess
- the side-tab / shop system is pretty wonky at times, unsure if it's because of unity or just odd/sticky tool-tips

Re-birthing system:- at level (stage?) 100 you can reset and start over
you get 1 heart for every 500 levels
you get 1 amrita for every 1000 levels

- you keep:
-- all unlocked galleries
-- all achievements
-- any/all element shards (currency)
-- any upgrades made to nymphs with said shards
-- hearts of eradine (currency)
-- all unlocked super nymph slots
-- any coin booster you may have purchased with hearts
-- any/all active bonus upgrades you have purchased with hearts

- you lose
-- all nymphs and their levels (but not evolve stages unlocked with element shards)
-- all coins
-- current stage back to 1
-- all cosmo power moves and all power move upgrades
-- all cosmo click upgrades

unfortunately, re-birthing at stage 100 is basically worthless as you get no hearts (currency) or amrita (end game currency)
and the rewards only upgrade every 50 additional stage

example: my current stage 250+ (but less than 300)
gives these re-birth rewards: 50k coin upon reset, and 3 random element shards

grinding lvl500 rebirths is good for hearts, do this until you can do lvl1000 runs.

Current number of nymphs: 43
List of lvl 10 nymphs with super abilities and dps rates
Super Nymph Move = SNM Nymph (Element) Passive (DPS) SNM 1 (Tier 1) SNM 2 (Tier 1) SNM 3 (Tier 2) SNM 4 (Tier 2) Frea (Lightning) 90 DPS 720 Physical cd: 1sec 2250 Elemental cd: 3s 11,250 Physical cd: 10sec 4500 Elemental cd: 4sec Tiger (Fire) 234 1638 Ele: 3s 468 Phy: 1s 10,530 Ele: 10s 8190 Phy: 4s Squid (Water) 611 1833 Ele: 1s 7332 Ele: 3s 24,440 Phy: 5s 122,200 Ele: 10s Scorpion (Dark) 1.2k 8547 Ele: 3s 3663 (???) Phy: 5s 48,840 Ele: 6s 244,200 Phy: 8s Raptor (Dark) 1.9k 9.6k Ele: 3s 28.8k Phy: 5s 48k Ele: 1s 576k Phy: 8s Rat (Dark) 2.5k 12.65k Ele: 4s 20.24k Phy: 2s 171.1k Ele: 8s 1.256M Phy: 15s Phoenix (Fire) 3.1k 31k Ele: 8s 55.9k Phy: 4s 528k Ele: 6s 3.1M Phy: 10s Penguin (Water) 3.5k 35k Ele: 5s 7k Phy: 2s 703k Ele: 10s 879k Phy: 4s Panda (Light)
3.7k
37k Ele: 5s
7.4k Phy: 2s
743k Ele: 10s
929k Phy: 4s
Monster (Heart lol wut) 3.9k 46k Ele: 5s 7.7k Phy: 2s 778k Ele: 10s 973k Phy: 4s Monkey (Leaf)
4.3k
64k Ele: 5s
17k Phy: 2s
939k Ele: 10s
1.1M Phy: 4s
LightMantis (Light) 4.9k 48k Ele: 5s 14k Phy: 2s 976k Ele: 10s 1.3M Phy: 4s Giraffe (Lightning)
5.6k
56k Ele: 5s
11k Phy: 2s
1.2M Ele: 10s
1.4M Phy: 4s
Gingerbread (Heart) 6.3k 75k Ele: 5s 12.6k Phy: 2s 1.26M Ele: 10s 1.57M Phy: 4s Gecko (Dark)
6.9k
69k Ele: 5s
20k Phy: 2s
1.45M Ele: 10s
1.79M Phy: 4s
Fairy (Light) 7.3k 109k Ele: 5s 29k Phy: 1s 1.67M Ele: 10s 1.96M Phy: 4s Dragonfly (Water) 7.5k
112k Ele: 5s
22.5k Phy: 1s
1.65M Ele: 10s
2.25M Phy: 4s
Deer (Lightning) 8.8k 105k Ele: 5s 35k Phy: 2s 1.76M Ele: 10s 2.2M Phy: 4s Bee (Lightning)
12.3k
147k Ele: 5s
36k Phy: 1s
2.45M Ele: 10s
4.43M Phy: 4s
Angel (Heart) 17.1k 171k Ele: 5s 34k Phy: 2s 3.4M Ele: 10s 4.44M Phy: 4s AsianDragon (Leaf)
22.7k
227k Ele: 5s
68k Phy: 2s
4.5M Ele: 10s
5.9M Phy: 5s
Dragon (Fire) 28.3k 282k Ele: 5s 56k Phy: 1s 5.6M Ele: 10s 8.4M Phy: 4s SnowFox (Light) 33.2k
331k Ele: 5s
66k Phy: 1s
6.6M Ele: 10s
9.9M Phy: 4s
Turtle (Fire) 36.6k 365k Ele: 5s 73k Phy: 1s 7.3M Ele: 10s 9.5M Phy: 4s Unicorn (Heart)
38k
379k Ele: 5s
75.9k Phy: 1s
7.59M Ele: 10s
11.38M Phy: 4s
Flowergirl (Leaf) 39.5k 395k Ele: 5s 118k Phy: 1s 9.87M Ele: 10s 12.6M Phy: 4s Seahorse (Water)
43.9k
438k Ele: 5s
87.7k Phy: 1s
8.77M Ele: 10s
15.3M Phy: 4s
Robot (Lightning) 49.9k 499k Ele: 5s 99.8k Phy: 2s 9.98M Ele: 10s 19.9M Phy: 4s Orca (Water)
56.9k
569k Ele: 5s
113k Phy: 2s
14.2M Ele: 10s
17M Phy: 4s
IceCream (Heart) 63.8k 638k Ele: 5s 127k Phy: 2s 15.9M Ele: 10s 23.9M Phy: 4s Rabbit (Light)
69.9k
699k Ele: 5s
139k Phy: 2s
13.9M Ele: 10s
26.2M Phy: 4s
Chicken (Lightning) 74.3k 742k Ele: 5s 148k Phy: 2s 14.8M Ele: 10s 29.7M Phy: 4s Mammoth (Leaf)
76k
759k Ele: 5s
151k Phy: 2s
18.9M Ele: 10s
26.5M Phy: 4s
Demon (Dark) 79.1k 791k Ele: 5s 158k Phy: 2s 23.7M Ele: 10s 31.6M Phy: 4s Frog (Water)
87.8k
878k Ele: 5s
175k Phy: 2s
17.5M Ele: 10s
43.9M Phy: 5s
Squirrel (Fire) 100k 999k Ele: 5s 299k Phy: 2s 24.9M Ele: 10s 54.9M Phy: 5s Medusa (Leaf)
114k
1.25M Ele: 5s
227K Phy: 2s
22.7M Ele: 10s
56.9M Phy: 4s
Ferret (Dark) 127.9k 1.27M Ele: 5s 255k Phy: 2s 38.3M Ele: 10s 31.9M Phy: 4s Sheep (Light)
140k
1.4M Ele: 5s
560k Phy: 2s
28M Ele: 10s
42M Phy: 5s
Gryffin (Heart) 148.7k
148M Ele: 5s
594k Phy: 2s
29.7M Ele: 10s
74M Phy: 4s
Bear (Leaf) 152k
1.5M Ele: 5s
911k Phy: 2s
30.3M Ele: 10s
37.9M Phy: 4s
Anglerfish (Dark)





Bat (Fire)






Turns out Nymphs gain 1% crit chance per lvl. up to the max of 10%

Also, occasionally a strange glowing light ball (Orb of Eradine) will appear on the screen leaving long trails of white or red.
If you successfully catch it (it'll start moving fast and fly up to the coin currency at the top of the screen), it will drop a small treasure box in the battle area.
Upon opening it, you will receive an in-game mail with your prize in the attachment.

Recorded possible loot drops from Orb of Eradine: (in order of rarity)
- coins (the booby prize)
- Lotto Wheel Spin ticket
- Heart of Eradine
- Shard of Eradine
- Amrita?!?!

Bonus Actives (equipment) table
Two stats are:
- active - when equiped
- passive - when a different one is equiped
note: can only have 1 equiped at a time Lvl French Girls Charm (+dps) Golden Puppy Shield (+dpc) Fanny Magnet (+drops) Trouser Snake Spit (+Nymph attack speed) 1 a: +50% | p: +5% a: +50% | p: +5% a: +2% | p: +0.2% a: +1% per sec | p: +0% 2 a: +55% | p: +5.5%
a: +7% | p: +0.7%

a: +60% | p: +6%
a: +12% | p: +1.2%

Aidoru
12-27-2017, 02:58 PM
Tried it during early access. Got bored after a day and never managed to get any amritas. Also too much furry art. Heard something about them banning auto clickers now too.

Unless they changed the nymphs, they were doing garbage damage for me during the beta. Went to level 500+.

TiamatRoar
12-27-2017, 08:22 PM
Ugh, spent some shards of eradine evolving a nymph before I realized it was furry art. *shudder* Not my cup of tea.

How do you get more shards of eradine anyways? Been playing a while and didn't get any so I just stopped playing because that's like, the only thing the game seems to have over other auto-clickers. *shrug*

ShiroSeigi
12-27-2017, 08:54 PM
it seems that I just got my first one (a fire shard) to drop off the lvl 49 boss.

so, they may just be super rare boss drops.

other than that, you'll probably need to buy them with hearts. at least for the moment.


and if I understand correctly, the nymphs start more animal, but their higher forms become more and more human.

____________
update

it appears hearts are also rare drops on bosses as well. err, or super bosses, whatever that is

Semaphore
12-27-2017, 08:57 PM
Ugh, spent some shards of eradine evolving a nymph before I realized it was furry art. *shudder* Not my cup of tea.

How do you get more shards of eradine anyways? Been playing a while and didn't get any so I just stopped playing because that's like, the only thing the game seems to have over other auto-clickers. *shrug*

Boss drops, buy them with hearts, or rebirth at level 100+. In all cases, the type of shard you get is random, so if you were hoping to get a particular type of shard for a particular character, most of the shards you get will be of the wrong type.

TiamatRoar
12-27-2017, 09:20 PM
it seems that I just got my first one (a fire shard) to drop off the lvl 49 boss.

so, they may just be super rare boss drops.

other than that, you'll probably need to buy them with hearts. at least for the moment.


and if I understand correctly, the nymphs start more animal, but their higher forms become more and more human.

____________
update

it appears hearts are also rare drops on bosses as well. err, or super bosses, whatever that is

Phoenix popped to human form immediately on first evolve but Penguin stayed Penguin and got more furry after two evolves. I couldn't bear to evolve her further out of sheer fear XD;

Unregistered
12-27-2017, 09:37 PM
The game runs like shit on Chrome taking up over 2GB of RAM. And even if it runs a little bit the gameplay isn't fun and feels more grindy than other auto clickers.

Unregistered
12-27-2017, 09:39 PM
okay, maybe its just me, reading the first link..
there is a difference between "super moves" and "power moves"
Super moves are done automatically by your minions in the super nymph slots, and pop fairly quickly (1 to 10 seconds, depending on level/move- bar moves visibly). they are also fairly powerful (ie, 4500 electric damage every 4 seconds, for level 10 Frea)
The 6 "power move" (first at level 1?, second at level 25, etc, individually upgradeable), that you get might be the 30 minute one- tried the first one for 2000 coins (not gold), and is fairly useless if you haven't leveled "cosmo" (depends on if 20 x DPS" multiplies my actual dps, or cosmo damage for first level of first skill skill- even then 5k every 30 minutes is ridiculous compared to Frea's 4500 every 4 seconds...).
since I had the pre-reg bonus, and got a heart off the wheel,I bought a second super nymph slot, hopefully that lasts through reset. (starter pack's 3 super nymphs are supposed to last, so probably)

Peeves- might just be my screen size, (entire picture is bigger than my screen), but number display is awful. 5.9 k hp looks like "59k" on my machine, and it doesn't show 5.0... it right shifts the number and drops the 0 decimal. Coins are similar, and I don't understand what they are based on (was getting 1.3 k per monster at level 21, before I failed my first boss,then 1.2k for next 5 levels (currently at 26)

Unregistered
12-28-2017, 02:24 AM
Anyone know what those white ball thing that zigzag through the screen sometimes are? I tried clicking it before, thinking it's like some other clickers, for the reward, but it was pretty hard and just kept zigzagging.

DrunkMonkGar
12-28-2017, 08:12 AM
Winter is Coming doesn't work on treasure bosses, btw.

Dambooo
12-28-2017, 12:50 PM
Impossible to get a taste of the game without paying 20 bucks, which i won't risk knowing the quality of previous clickers.

Unregistered
12-28-2017, 02:24 PM
Really not worth trying!

Looks like something that was made 10+ years ago... yes, the graphics are that bad.
I have a decent computer, yet this game still lagged a lot.
Worst part though is the forced tutorial... it is a clicker, so no need for that!

So save your time and money and find something better.

Yamemai
12-28-2017, 06:38 PM
Really not worth trying!

Looks like something that was made 10+ years ago... yes, the graphics are that bad.
I have a decent computer, yet this game still lagged a lot.
Worst part though is the forced tutorial... it is a clicker, so no need for that!

So save your time and money and find something better.
There was a skip tutorial button, though I didn't click it, but yeah, the tutorial was shit (Barely explained anything), and the game isn't worth it.

Only way to progress is through Super Nymphs, which you buy with Hearts (The premium currency); cuz they're the ones that deal the real damage.
Everything else's damage is just really poor, unless you level them really high, but the coin gain is just too low (At level 5X you'll only receive 5~6k coins per kill, but you'd need like 2+mil to level the lower end Nymphs to max.)

Semaphore
12-28-2017, 07:04 PM
You're complaining that you have to wait half an hour to get enough coins to level up a nymph in an idle game? I repeat, you're complaining that you have to wait in an idle game? If you see that as...

Kotono
12-28-2017, 07:08 PM
You want to reach at least stage 501 before resetting. This gives you an additional heart to spend.
This might help too: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rbs9CQ3a-DOsG8E1UF29rAUttnxvc3S-C_666C6-kTU/edit#gid=494494396
From the discord.

Unregistered
12-28-2017, 07:23 PM
Super nymphs do main damage? lets see...
level 90, check
150k health per monster, check
18k per kill, check
19 nymphs unlocked, next one will cost 2M gold..
Someone mentioned, the level 2 costs/damage ratio is lower than buying next nymph, which is true... but by around level 4, leveling the Nymph has a better ratio IE, level 2 light mantis will give me 40 more damage for 620k, level 3 monkey (prev nymph) will give me 56 damage for 630 k, level 4 monster(prev nymph) will give 78 damage for 587 k, level 5 panda will give 128 damage for 685 k, and level 5 penguin gives 121 damage for 656 k

total nymph damage 13.3 k per second
level 12 cosmo damage (around 3-4 million, total gold spent) 466 damage per tap
2 super nymphs ..
Level 10 rat, 1.26 million damage every 15 seconds
level 10 phoenix (1 evolved), 3.1 million damage every 10 seconds
Yep, super nymphs are definitely the way to go- cost of 3 slot-5 hearts... so yes, the $20 starter is the way to go, if you are going to spend money- just don't reset as soon as possible, until someone lets us know if you keep shards/evolutions through a reset..

Semaphore
12-28-2017, 07:49 PM
You want to reach at least stage 501 before resetting. This gives you an additional heart to spend.
This might help too: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rbs9CQ3a-DOsG8E1UF29rAUttnxvc3S-C_666C6-kTU/edit#gid=494494396
From the discord.

Thanks for the link.

If you can't beat a boss, then you can't beat it. You could wait a long time to get the next nymph or three. I say it's better to just reset and get several more shards and maybe another heart or two in the process of leveling back up so that you'll be stronger the next time around.

Semaphore
12-28-2017, 07:50 PM
Yep, super nymphs are definitely the way to go- cost of 3 slot-5 hearts... so yes, the $20 starter is the way to go, if you are going to spend money- just don't reset as soon as possible, until someone lets us know if you keep shards/evolutions through a reset..

Yes, you do keep shards and evolutions through a reset. It would be pretty pointless if you didn't, as you only get a handful of shards in the process of leveling up.

Kotono
12-28-2017, 08:04 PM
It is very easy to reach stage 500+ on first playthrough, but you have to level your nymphs to level 10 for the super damage boost and level 10 skills.
Dragon and Snowfox are the two I focused on at first. Evolve both to stage 1 or 2 and they oneshot everything all the way up to stage 501, where the monster HP gets a x10 multiplier from the previous stage. Can still go on past there, they just need 2 hits now.

This is an idle game, so some patience is needed - or you can buy the gold boosters and things go wayyyyyyyyyyyy faster. The 7 day boost is well worth it, and it lasts through rebirthing. If you are absolutely determined to not spend anything, then the 1 hour boost is suggested on a fresh start/new rebirth.

Semaphore
12-28-2017, 08:16 PM
It is very easy to reach stage 500+ on first playthrough, but you have to level your nymphs to level 10 for the super damage boost and level 10 skills.
Dragon and Snowfox are the two I focused on at first. Evolve both to stage 1 or 2 and they oneshot everything all the way up to stage 501, where the monster HP gets a x10 multiplier from the previous stage. Can still go on past there, they just need 2 hits now.

This is an idle game, so some patience is needed - or you can buy the gold boosters and things go wayyyyyyyyyyyy faster. The 7 day boost is well worth it, and it lasts through rebirthing. If you are absolutely determined to not spend anything, then the 1 hour boost is suggested on a fresh start/new rebirth.

Sure, I could reach level 500 on my first play through over the course of a few days. I say it's better to reset a few times over the course of those few days and come away with certainly more shards, almost certainly more bosses beaten and hence chances for good drops, and likely more hearts as a result of having more chances to have them drop.

Kotono
12-28-2017, 08:41 PM
I got to stage 500 with no gold boost and then reset for the heart, and then invested in a starter pack. Got a refund on the hearts already spent for super nymph slots (the devs in the discord will do this), and then spent those on the 7 day gold boost.

Ironically, you don't progress any faster until unlocking nymph slots since they already oneshot everything and clicking is currently worthless. Just have to aim for leveling the nypmhs that have 4s or 5s level 10 skill timers, and evolve a stage or two. Once you get 2+ of those, it just becomes a breeze all the way through.

The main trick right now is taking advantage of the offline gold boost. Every few hours you should save your game progress, and then reload the game and you can gain a massive boost in gold. This may get fixed later, not sure.

Edit: Forgot to mention that spending one, and only one, heart to buy the french girls charm is well worth it. This provides a 50% boost to nymph dps.

Yamemai
12-28-2017, 09:41 PM
You're complaining that you have to wait half an hour to get enough coins to level up a nymph in an idle game? I repeat, you're complaining that you have to wait in an idle game? If you see that as a problem, then idle games aren't for you.

I'm not complaining about the time it takes to level nymphs, but that in order to really progress you need to use Super Nymphs, just costs premium currency. I don't get where you thought this, as I opened with:

Only way to progress is through Super Nymphs, which you buy with Hearts (The premium currency); cuz they're the ones that deal the real damage.
Everything else's damage is just really poor, unless you level them really high, but the coin gain is just too low (At level 5X you'll only receive 5~6k coins per kill, but you'd need like 2+mil to level the lower end Nymphs to max.)

Even then, sometimes when I go back to the game, I don't receive my idle gains; it happened around twice, out of the 3~4ish times I checked yesterday, each time around 1~3h apart from each other. -- I even saved, waiting for the heart at the bottom right to disappear, before closing the tab/browser.

Semaphore
12-28-2017, 09:52 PM
I'm not complaining about the time it takes to level nymphs, but that in order to really progress you need to use Super Nymphs, just costs premium currency. I don't get where you thought this, as I opened with:


Even then, sometimes when I go back to the game, I don't receive my idle gains; it happened around twice, out of the 3~4ish times I checked yesterday, each time around 1~3h apart from each other. -- I even saved, waiting for the heart at the bottom right to disappear, before closing the tab/browser.

You got at least one heart to unlock the first super nymph in the tutorial, didn't you? They're also available as random drops and achievement rewards. My achievements list says that I've gotten 9 hearts so far. So yes, it's slow getting started with just one super nymph, but you get a second pretty quickly. I've gotten a third and the game just released yesterday. And that's without paying any money for the game.

Eliont
12-29-2017, 12:40 AM
If you skip tutorial, you will lose ever you first super slot.

Unregistered
12-29-2017, 12:59 AM
okay, I did my first rebirth, and game froze
refreshed browser, and recieved "one time offer" to "save all the hassle" and buy Frea...
Figured it would give me credit for frea scenes, so spent the heart..
No extra scenes- is Frea a "bonus" you buy EVERY re-birth??? If so, I would have been better off spending it on a 1 hour gold bonus..

Kotono
12-29-2017, 01:07 AM
No, that only happened because you had no gold after the rebirth. If you don't have enough gold, the dude offers to sell the nymph for a heart.

You might see if the devs would offer a refund for that, because it is quite a shitty thing.

Yamemai
12-29-2017, 01:44 AM
You got at least one heart to unlock the first super nymph in the tutorial, didn't you? They're also available as random drops and achievement rewards. My achievements list says that I've gotten 9 hearts so far. So yes, it's slow getting started with just one super nymph, but you get a second pretty quickly. I've gotten a third and the game just released yesterday. And that's without paying any money for the game.

Yeah, I had like 4 Hearts, so 2 Super Nymphs; not sure how to get more, so thanks for the clues. Don't play enough to progress though, since I'm only on for a couple of minutes each time I check.

Btw, you mentioned drops; is that the bosses, the super one? And anyone have any clue what that glowing orb thing is?

Unregistered
12-29-2017, 02:21 AM
Game kind of snuck up on me, wasn't expecting anything to release during x-mas (and I'm visiting folks) but so far I'm liking it, since I don't have much time to play anyways.

From what I've seen only the super nymphs serve any point, and the cost to level later nymphs doesn't go up so fast, so strategy seems to be to just ignore most of them but every so often level one up to 10 to replace your older super nymphs. Don't bother leveling up anything else.

(Admittedly, first day I spun an amrita with 1 of my 3 tickets, today I rolled a heart pack (3 hearts!), so maybe I'm biased)

Unregistered
12-29-2017, 02:15 PM
I got to stage 500 with no gold boost and then reset for the heart, and then invested in a starter pack. Got a refund on the hearts already spent for super nymph slots (the devs in the discord will do this), and then spent those on the 7 day gold boost.

Ironically, you don't progress any faster until unlocking nymph slots since they already oneshot everything and clicking is currently worthless. Just have to aim for leveling the nypmhs that have 4s or 5s level 10 skill timers, and evolve a stage or two. Once you get 2+ of those, it just becomes a breeze all the way through.

The main trick right now is taking advantage of the offline gold boost. Every few hours you should save your game progress, and then reload the game and you can gain a massive boost in gold. This may get fixed later, not sure.

Edit: Forgot to mention that spending one, and only one, heart to buy the french girls charm is well worth it. This provides a 50% boost to nymph dps.

Does anyone have a list of nymphs that have 4s/5s level 10 skill timers?

DrunkMonkGar
12-29-2017, 02:37 PM
Does anyone have a list of nymphs that have 4s/5s level 10 skill timers?

Starting with Penguin and going on to at least Asiandragon, every girl has had a 4s untyped attack at 10.

ShiroSeigi
12-29-2017, 03:21 PM
Check the first post.

Adding a Nymph list table with max lvl (10) abilities, passive dps and cast times.
also added info on orb of eradine

will update/add more as I progress, or if other people post

Bruceski
12-29-2017, 05:53 PM
I've gotten 3 orbs of Eriadne. Two were coins (about on the level of a coin drop at that stage) and one was a heart.

Unregistered
12-29-2017, 07:21 PM
Like many others, there's too much furry stuff(I'm not anti-furry but who in the world thought it was a good idea to have "sexy"(yes the quotes mean something) pikachu be your first member). If it was at least anthropomoprhic-furry I could dig it. But its like, Rule 34 Yifftastic fursuit furry.

BigBobs
12-29-2017, 07:41 PM
How do you get more amrita? It's billed as a reward from rebirthing yet at level 400 it's still only a super pathetic amount of gold and some shards.

Underdog
12-29-2017, 09:27 PM
About the glowing Orb:

im not sure, but on my screen it fly arround and stop far on top totaly unmoving. If i click it once, it moves like crazy zig zag and a chest apears.

Since im able to hit it that way "easy", i found:
- coins (the same amount on your current monster, so it's useless)
- ticket for the spin wheel
- a heart (happen only once, but nice that theres a chance to get one)

DrunkMonkGar
12-29-2017, 09:28 PM
The active boosters don't necessarily upgrade linearly, I found out. The Fanny Magnet goes from +2(.2)% to 7(.7)%.

Eliont
12-30-2017, 12:03 AM
Game surely greedy, but admins on discord are nice - i got my acc repaired ^__^

Largepotato
12-30-2017, 01:26 AM
How do you get more amrita? It's billed as a reward from rebirthing yet at level 400 it's still only a super pathetic amount of gold and some shards.

It was 1000 in pre-release.

DrunkMonkGar
12-30-2017, 02:34 AM
It was 1000 in pre-release.

Good lord. I'm suddenly feeling luckier my pre-reg spins gave me 2. What does it even do, though?

Edit: Nevermind my question, I got to 500 for rebirth and the game finally said. Special gallery currency for max-evolve girls.

ShiroSeigi
12-30-2017, 10:46 AM
Looks like enemies gain a lot of health at stage 500, so it would seem that it's a good place to start re-birth.

especially since stage 500 also gives 1 heart

Unregistered
12-30-2017, 11:12 AM
Does the French Girls Charm boost the damage of Super Nymph Moves, or only base DPS? Because if it's only base DPS it seems like it would be pretty worthless. Same question for the Trouser Snake Spit, does it increase the attack speed of super moves? Really want to figure out which charm is the best one to invest in.

Semaphore
12-30-2017, 01:40 PM
From the spreadsheet that Kotono linked, it looks like each level of a nymph costs (1+sqrt(5))/2 (a.k.a., the golden ratio) times as much as the previous level. All of the costs displayed are pretty close to that and probably within rounding of it. It rounds or truncates the numbers that are displayed on the screen, so it's likely that the exact value is either computed as a base value times the golden ratio to whatever power, at least up to rounding.

Damage dealt per level of a nymph also looks like it scales at the same ratio. Thus, the total cost to level a nymph to 10 is about 197 times the cost of unlocking the nymph in the first place. The DPS (excluding super nymph skills) that the nymph will deal at level 10 is about 76 times what it will deal at level 1. That doesn't give you an easy way to predict super nymph skills, however.

Semaphore
12-30-2017, 02:25 PM
For those who are wondering, the price in hearts of super nymph slots goes 1, 2, 5, 10, 25. I'm not sure about the last slot, as I can't see the price of the sixth until I buy the fifth. The online encyclopedia of integer sequences suggests 50 as the next number:

http://oeis.org/search?q=1%2C2%2C5%2C10%2C25&language=english&go=Search

It finds six sequences that have 1,2,5,10,25, and four of them have 50 as their next value. The other next values suggested are 48 and 58, neither of which I regard as likely.

For comparison, the levels of fanny magnet start as 1,2,3--in particular, 3 hearts for the third level, not 5. That is not enough of a sequence to meaningfully consult the OEIS.

BigBobs
12-30-2017, 03:17 PM
Good lord. I'm suddenly feeling luckier my pre-reg spins gave me 2. What does it even do, though?

Edit: Nevermind my question, I got to 500 for rebirth and the game finally said. Special gallery currency for max-evolve girls.

All girls have 3 evolutions, which are the first three pictures in the gallery. That also tells you how many amirita you need to use to get to the H-scene (final image; at least for pheonix and squid it was the final image for both, maybe the 8 galleries have multiple). So if its a 0/8 gallery, you'll have 5 amrita to fully unlock.

BigBobs
12-30-2017, 04:41 PM
Does the French Girls Charm boost the damage of Super Nymph Moves, or only base DPS? Because if it's only base DPS it seems like it would be pretty worthless. Same question for the Trouser Snake Spit, does it increase the attack speed of super moves? Really want to figure out which charm is the best one to invest in.

I went for the drop increase, which I'm pretty sure is increasing the number of double/triple/etc coin drops per monster. So it sorta acts like a gold booster. I also seem to be obtaining a much larger amount of shards than I would get from rebirthing at 500. Though interestingly, I have yet to receive a single fantasy shard, wonder if its a bug (meanwhile I have 3 fires, 2 waters, and 2 electric at stage 3 at the minimum)...

Also, a trap I've noticed. Panda and Monster's level 3 skill are....really freaking low compared to what it should be. It's almost a 50% drop in dps from the level 1 skill.

DrunkMonkGar
12-30-2017, 07:34 PM
Yeah fantasy shards seem incredibly rare. I did get one from rebirthing at 500, but that is the only one I've seen so far.

Semaphore
12-30-2017, 07:52 PM
Number of shards that I've obtained thus far by type:

Fire: 13
Water: 11
Earth: 9
Electric: 8
Light: 7
Dark: 11
Fantasy: 8

That doesn't strike me as being out of line with all equally likely, especially considering that pre-registering gave extra fire and water shards.

BigBobs
12-30-2017, 08:21 PM
Number of shards that I've obtained thus far by type:

Fire: 13
Water: 11
Earth: 9
Electric: 8
Light: 7
Dark: 11
Fantasy: 8

That doesn't strike me as being out of line with all equally likely, especially considering that pre-registering gave extra fire and water shards.

Right now after playing for a while and completing a couple missions and upgrading a few girls.

Girl rank:
Fire:
Tiger - 2 - 3 fire
Pheonix - max - 8
Dragon - 2 - 3
Remaining: 5
Total - 19

Water:
Squid - Max - 8 water
Penguin - 1 - 1
Seahorse - 2 - 3
Remaining - 4
Total: 16

Earth:
Monkey - 3 - 8 grass
AsianDragon - 2 - 3
Remaining: 3
Total - 14

Electric:
Frea - 3 - 8 lightning
Giraffe - 3 - 8 lightning
Robot - 2 - 3
Remaining: 3
Total: 22

Dark:
Rat - 3 - 8 dark
Remaining - 2
Total: 10

Light:
Panda - 2 - 3 light
Fairy - 2 - 3 light
Snowfox - 2 - 3
Remaining - 2
Total: 11


Fantasy:
Monster - 2 - 3 Fantasy
Remaining - 0
Total: 3


And since the starting pack came with 3, that means I've literally gotten 0 all game.

Semaphore
12-30-2017, 09:00 PM
How much of a damage boost does stage 3 provide, anyway?

BigBobs
12-30-2017, 10:14 PM
How much of a damage boost does stage 3 provide, anyway?

50% per level.

Yamemai
12-31-2017, 12:10 AM
Just noticed, but does the game progress in levels while you're away? When I came back I was still at the same, or around the same level as I left.

Semaphore
12-31-2017, 08:53 AM
Just noticed, but does the game progress in levels while you're away? When I came back I was still at the same, or around the same level as I left.

If by away, you mean logging off, then yes, you stay at that level. If by away, you mean AFK but still logged in with the game running, then you can continue leveling up. If you lose to a boss, then you stay at your level until you click retry boss and beat the boss. Depending on various circumstances, that can happen pretty quickly when you go AFK.

Evilmind
12-31-2017, 08:59 AM
For the record i got an Amrita in an orb of eradine, pretty lucky i guess.

Semaphore
12-31-2017, 09:55 AM
How to take coins with you when you rebirth:

When you start a new game, every so often, an "orb of eradine" will move around on your screen. If you click on it, it will give you a prize--usually a number of coins equivalent to defeating an enemy at your current level. Importantly, it puts the prize in your inbox rather than adding it directly to your total. Your number of coins on hand is reset when you rebirth, but your inbox is not.

If you miss an orb of eradine, it seems to stop sending them. But you can make it start again if you enter galleries, then go back out to the main game. That's probably not the only way to do it; I'm pretty sure that reloading the game entire would also make it start sending orbs again as well. It might be as simple as just tapping a few times.

When you're getting close to being ready to rebirth, make sure that it's sending orbs of eradine out, then watch to see them come. Click a few when they come and leave the coins in your inbox. Getting a million or so coins added to your stash of billions doesn't make much difference, but at the very start, a million coins is a lot--enough to unlock Frea and Tiger and push them to level 10. Do that however many times you care to before you rebirth, and you'll get a much faster start on your next game.

Yamemai
12-31-2017, 11:07 AM
If by away, you mean logging off, then yes, you stay at that level. If by away, you mean AFK but still logged in with the game running, then you can continue leveling up. If you lose to a boss, then you stay at your level until you click retry boss and beat the boss. Depending on various circumstances, that can happen pretty quickly when you go AFK.

Thanks, but don't most other idle/clicker games run while you're offline too? I remember clicker heroes being like that, though you may have had to rebirth once first. No wonder I seemed to be behind though, since I only stayed for a few dozen of minutes.

Semaphore
12-31-2017, 11:13 AM
Thanks, but don't most other idle/clicker games run while you're offline too? I remember clicker heroes being like that, though you may have had to rebirth once first. No wonder I seemed to be behind though, since I only stayed for a few dozen of minutes.

I suppose that I'm not certain that you can't level at all while logged out. But I am certain that once you lose to a boss, you can't level any further until you click the button to retry boss and defeat the boss. You're not going to do that while logged out.

Yamemai
12-31-2017, 11:20 AM
I suppose that I'm not certain that you can't level at all while logged out. But I am certain that once you lose to a boss, you can't level any further until you click the button to retry boss and defeat the boss. You're not going to do that while logged out.

I know for sure it doesn't progress while you're logged off, cuz I kill maxed Bee and LightMantis as my Supers, and they kill the bosses in around 2~3 hits when I log on again.

Anyways, hopefully we'll be able to progress while offline later on, cuz as is, I'm barely progressing. -- Reason being webgl doesn't work well w/ my comp, and it crashes if I keep the browser up too long.

Semaphore
12-31-2017, 05:46 PM
A very important point that you absolutely must understand in order to play intelligently: boss drops are not random. At all. At least with the possible exception that if a boss is going to drop a shard, the type of shard it drops might be random.

Each level has 15 opponents: 14 normal and a boss. In most cases, the boss is just a normal boss. There is a small chance that it could be one of three types of special bosses, however. A "ShardKeeper" boss drops a shard, a "Super Boss" drops a heart of eradine, and a "Treasure Whore" drops 20x the normal copper.

All three of the special types of bosses are labeled on their name. A ShardKeeper boss looks like a normal boss other than the name. A Super Boss is bigger, and a Treasure Whore uses a particular graphic rather than just being a random boss.

All three of the special types of bosses are also much stronger than normal. A ShardKeeper boss has perhaps 2x the normal HP. A Super Boss has perhaps 3x or 4x the normal HP, but also gives you double the time to beat it. A Treasure Whore has something like 4x the normal HP and without giving you extra time. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but they're all much stronger than normal bosses.

This means that if you're barely strong enough to beat a normal boss, and a special boss shows up instead, you're going to fail unless you can burn some skills with long cooldowns to beat the boss. You won't use such skills unless you're sitting there watching it, and idle games aren't meant for you to have to watch them constantly. That means that it's critical to be much stronger than necessary to beat the bosses you're facing, as otherwise, you basically don't get loot. You'll get some copper and that's it.

If you fail against a Treasure Whore, it sends you through to the next level, anyway. If you fail against a ShardKeeper boss, it does not. I haven't watched a failure against a Super Boss, but my guess would be that that also stops you. Treasure Whores are massively stronger than the other types of special bosses, and also give massively less useful loot.

One consequence of this is that, even if you could push through and barely make it to another threshold before rebirthing, you really shouldn't unless the next threshold gets you an extra heart or amrita. You're not going to get any more loot on the way, so you might as well just rebirth. Another consequence is that the coin boosters are far more valuable than they appear at first, as it means you'll level out ahead of the content and be massively stronger than the content so that you can easily clear whatever special bosses show up.

Unregistered
12-31-2017, 10:00 PM
A tip for everyone, if you get a "free spin" wheel ticket from an orb, don't use it right away. Using these resets the countdown for your next free spin to 24 hours! I got another 12 hours added to my countdown and all I got was 1000 gold. :(

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 02:32 AM
Anyways, hopefully we'll be able to progress while offline later on, cuz as is, I'm barely progressing. -- Reason being webgl doesn't work well w/ my comp, and it crashes if I keep the browser up too long.

Sounds like you need a better computer? As other poster said, you don't *want* to be advancing offline. Killing shardkeepers and suber bosses is FAR more important than stage progression, which means you need to be overleveled. And the easy way to be overleveled is to periodically farm gold (and not progressing) by closing the game for a while.

I've obtained 19 hearts... I've only rebirthed once.

(And P.S. Been a while since I played them, but I don't remember advancing when when the game wasn't running in either attack on Moe or fap titans, the only other games like this I've played.)

zesnake
01-01-2018, 05:10 AM
I just find something
1. launch the game
2.change the date of your computer
3.go to gallery and exit
4.enjoy bonuscoin offline
i put december 2018 on my computer and i have 5B coins

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 08:54 AM
I just find something
1. launch the game
2.change the date of your computer
3.go to gallery and exit
4.enjoy bonuscoin offline
i put december 2018 on my computer and i have 5B coins Nice find. I tried it on a mule account and this works on the wheel. Can spin it multiple times. You just have to change the date of computer a day later. I spun the wheel twice.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 09:15 AM
Nice find. I tried it on a mule account and this works on the wheel. Can spin it multiple times. You just have to change the date of computer a day later. I spun the wheel twice.
lol, so you can basically unlock everything w/o rebirthing? Would just be tedious, and maybe time consuming.

Semaphore
01-01-2018, 09:17 AM
I just find something
1. launch the game
2.change the date of your computer
3.go to gallery and exit
4.enjoy bonuscoin offline
i put december 2018 on my computer and i have 5B coins

You may wish to be careful, as that's the sort of blatantly obvious cheat that is pretty trivial to check for server-side and would certainly justify handing out perma-bans.

Semaphore
01-01-2018, 09:22 AM
It looks like the formulas for what you get from rebirthing at level n are:

Coins: 10000 * floor(n / 50)
Shards: 1 + floor(n / 100)
Hearts: floor(n / 500)
Amrita: floor(n / 1000)

The game says that the rewards improve every 50 levels. I've verified that at all multiples of 50 up to and including 1000, with the exceptions of 750, 850, and 900. In particular, you get two hearts at level 1000.

There are large jumps in difficulty at levels 251, 501, and 1001. There is not such a large jump at level 751, so it's not just every 250 levels.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 01:33 PM
When you evolve a nymph with an Amrita, does her damage increase or does it only unlock a new picture? Got one from an orb and I want to spend it wisely.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 01:50 PM
In particular, you get two hearts at level 500.

Mistype? I assume you mean either one heart at lvl 500, or two hearts at lvl 1000?

Semaphore
01-01-2018, 01:51 PM
Mistype? I assume you mean either one heart at lvl 500, or two hearts at lvl 1000?

You're right. My mistake. I've edited my post above to fix it.

Kotono
01-01-2018, 02:18 PM
When you evolve a nymph with an Amrita, does her damage increase or does it only unlock a new picture? Got one from an orb and I want to spend it wisely.

It gives another 50% boost to damage for each stage.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 02:34 PM
Curious what peoples plans are for advancing, My strategy of only doing every 5th or so Nymph seems to work decently well up to 500. Concentrating on:
Frea
Tiger
Penguin
Monkey
Dragonfly
Dragon
Flowergirl.

(all of which have 4 second lvl 10 skills... start is a bit rough until I get Penguin maxed) Things dramatically slow at 500 though. I expect I'll need to start using shards to upgrade a lot, and possibly reduce the interval between Nymphs.

Incidentally, I have to strongly agree with what somebody else said, Fantasy shards seem to be exceedingly rare.

I have gotten:
10 fire
8 Water
7 Earth
9 Electric
10 Light
8 Dark
1 Fantasy

My "gut" feeling is that they simply don't drop from shardkeepers. You only get them from rebirth and/or wheel. (I *think* I got mine from rebirth) Seeing as the vast majority of my shards come from shardkeeper kills, that puts 'em at a severe disadvantage.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 02:38 PM
It gives another 50% boost to damage for each stage.

Wait.. for each stage, or simply another stage worth 50%?

i.e. a girl with 8 stages, at stage 7 will be 50% *7 boost, or 350%. Does amrita that final stage take it to 400% boost (i.e. another 50%) or does it take it to 700%, (another 50 for each stage)

(I Assume it's only possible to amrita the final stage)

zesnake
01-01-2018, 05:00 PM
Frea with the first amrita it's 200% dps so i assume it's +50% for each stage or maybe a bonus for complete all stage

Kotono
01-01-2018, 06:00 PM
Wait.. for each stage, or simply another stage worth 50%?

i.e. a girl with 8 stages, at stage 7 will be 50% *7 boost, or 350%. Does amrita that final stage take it to 400% boost (i.e. another 50%) or does it take it to 700%, (another 50 for each stage)

(I Assume it's only possible to amrita the final stage)

Every time you evolve, you get +50%.

ShiroSeigi
01-01-2018, 07:49 PM
so far, no matter the number of galleries a nymph has, it has always cost 1 shard, 2 shards, 5 shards, then 1 amrita. (from what I've seen)

and all the amrita shows "sexy 1" as the name of the 4th evolve.

I haven't gotten any amrita as of yet to see what lies beyond, but I'm stage 3 on all my fire nymphs because my account is raining fire shards, I guess. And I can't go any further on any of them because 'sexy 1' always seems to cost amrita.

seems like I'm going to need to unlock the 5th and 6th super nymph slots to get to stage 1k though, so more 500 runs for me for a while.
so much boss health and not enough dps.

Locutus
01-01-2018, 08:13 PM
I managed to get to 1k with just three slots - Frog, Medusa and Bat, all level 10 and stage 3

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 10:13 PM
I haven't gotten any amrita as of yet to see what lies beyond, but I'm stage 3 on all my fire nymphs because my account is raining fire shards, I guess.

You're lucky, I keep getting Electric shards and most of the nymphs in that category suck :( (Frea is good at the start but none of the others are worth using until Chicken and she's too weak considering that she's the best Electric type in the game).

Kotono
01-01-2018, 10:26 PM
After getting a third nymph slot, I highly suggest using 10 hearts to get both the 7 day gold boost and also the first level of the french girls charm.

No way to argue against it. The boost is way too worthwhile. I've had it for 5 days now and the amount of hearts I've gotten as a result of going through stages faster, all the way to 1000 is this:
https://gyazo.com/9ddb9e47aab8e1f0ec330a664c7db9b1

Over 120 hearts, so now I have all nymph slots unlocked, some extra buffs purchased and still 11 unspent hearts that I'm not yet sure what is left to make good use of them for.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 11:07 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking the 7 day gold boost would have been a FAR better purchase than the 4th super nymph slot.

Additional super nymph slots are seriously diminishing returns, because that additional nymph your adding is significantly inferior to each of your existing nymphs.

And the other artifacts other than the first rank of the french one seem pretty meh.

Unregistered
01-01-2018, 11:17 PM
Another tip for everybody, DO NOT close the game while your nymphs are fighting a boss. I did this and when I came back about 2 hours later I got zero gold because the game apparently considers you to be fighting the boss the whole time so you get no coin drops.

Unregistered
01-02-2018, 12:48 AM
Another tip for everybody, DO NOT close the game while your nymphs are fighting a boss. I did this and when I came back about 2 hours later I got zero gold because the game apparently considers you to be fighting the boss the whole time so you get no coin drops.

Maybe. I'm pretty sure I've failed to get any money while "offline" for a while even when I wasn't fighting a boss when I logged off. And I'm pretty sure I've gotten a far out out of proportional amount of "offline" rewards just by popping over to the gallery and exiting.

IMO the offline rewards are just very VERY flaky.

unregistered
01-02-2018, 09:55 AM
So I haven't gotten any since yesterday. I've been offline for about 4 or 6 hours and just logged on. Didn't have the offline gold icon at the corner.

DrunkMonkGar
01-02-2018, 10:02 PM
I'm not sure about the recommendation for the French Girls Necklace. Making it my active booster causes no change whatsoever to my nymph DPS or the damage for super moves. It seems to me to be a nonfunctional item, which raises concerns about the other active boosters.

Semaphore
01-02-2018, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure about the recommendation for the French Girls Necklace. Making it my active booster causes no change whatsoever to my nymph DPS or the damage for super moves. It seems to me to be a nonfunctional item, which raises concerns about the other active boosters.

While I haven't tried it, I read it as increasing the nymph damage other than the super nymph attacks. Have you tried checking whether it improves the minor, passive damage you get from your nymphs?

DrunkMonkGar
01-02-2018, 10:32 PM
While I haven't tried it, I read it as increasing the nymph damage other than the super nymph attacks. Have you tried checking whether it improves the minor, passive damage you get from your nymphs?

That's what I meant by nymph DPS. There is no visual change to the overall counter in the the corner or to the individual nymph's DPS. I thought it might have been a UI bug, but going in and out of the gallery changes nothing.

Unregistered
01-02-2018, 11:04 PM
That's what I meant by nymph DPS. There is no visual change to the overall counter in the the corner or to the individual nymph's DPS. I thought it might have been a UI bug, but going in and out of the gallery changes nothing.

It's definitely just a display bug. (or more accurately, bad design at what point the multiplier is applied) It affects the "flyaway" damage numbers for both ambient DPS and the super moves, as well as the amount the enemies health bar moves.

Bruceski
01-02-2018, 11:33 PM
A review of the power moves
Job for the Superblow: 890x clicks at max level, but tap damage is so low proportional to cost it's still not great.
Rage: get 1250 counts for tap achievements, but that's about it.
Scorched Earth: abysmal. Long duration, but near-zero damage per tick.
Winter is Coming: doesn't seem to work, otherwise this would be handy for Treasure Whores.
All For Once: a nice strong hit. Not bad if you need that push before a timer.
Fog: Great multiplier, p[retty good skill.

Unregistered
01-03-2018, 12:24 AM
Ugh, spent some shards of eradine evolving a nymph before I realized it was furry art. *shudder* Not my cup of tea.

How do you get more shards of eradine anyways? Been playing a while and didn't get any so I just stopped playing because that's like, the only thing the game seems to have over other auto-clickers. *shrug*

It's only furry art up to rank 3. Once it switches to Amrita to upgrade, the art becomes non-furry.

Eliont
01-03-2018, 12:57 AM
If someone interested - found upgrade images (that are solely purpose to play the game) image dump on sadpanda.
Will not provide link, but it easy to find.

Bruceski
01-03-2018, 01:19 AM
It's only furry art up to rank 3. Once it switches to Amrita to upgrade, the art becomes non-furry.

That tiger sure looks furry to me.

DrunkMonkGar
01-03-2018, 11:47 AM
It's definitely just a display bug. (or more accurately, bad design at what point the multiplier is applied) It affects the "flyaway" damage numbers for both ambient DPS and the super moves, as well as the amount the enemies health bar moves.

Alright, thank you. I hope they get that display fixed.


Winter is Coming: doesn't seem to work, otherwise this would be handy for Treasure Whores.

I know it works on shardkeepers. I haven't had to see if it works on supers yet.

ShiroSeigi
01-03-2018, 12:07 PM
currently works on all bosses ... other than treasure whores.

don't ask me why, especially since treasure whores are the ones who need it most.

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 12:00 AM
Curious what the "end game" strategy is.

Seems like the strategy to 500 loops is, assuming you are running under gold boost:
Focus on maxing out Trouser Snake:
Freax10
Rapterx10 (but using 1 sec attack)
X10ing starting with Penguin for as many Super slots as you have.
x10ing starting with Asian Dragon for as many super slots as you have (Asian will hit 10 right around time raptor is no longer 1-shotting)


That'll get you up to 500 pretty much 1-shotting everything. (well, with each nymph 1 shotting non-bosses)

Not really sure where to go from there. Try for an "interim" girls or attempt to jump to girls that can take you up to 1k 1-shotting? I only had enough money at that point for 1 (and she'd need to be sexy-3 before it's possible), and about 1/2 the money needed for a second (also ~sexy 3, IIRC)

My gut reaction is switch to french charm & Robot (just to tide over a bit) then Chicken (sexy 3 1-shot to 1k) Demon (also sexy 3 1-shot to 1k), then Frog(sexy1), followed by squirrel(stage 3) etc.

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 01:56 AM
Oh, and P.S.
I've now rebirth 6 times at 500, and once at 1000
I have gotten ZERO fantasy shards from shardkeepers.
My running total is:

Fire: 31
Water: 27
Earth: 23
Electric: 23
Dark: 23
Light: 22
Fantasy: 7

I've got to say that fantasy shards are either intentionally or unintentionally (i.e. it's a bug) not coming from shardkeepers. Unlike all the other shards.

Underdog
01-04-2018, 11:00 AM
Nice...

* Coin and Shards can now be bought for Nutaku Gold and then with Hearts if player owns Ultimate Starter Pack [BALANCE]

The biggest in-game change is that Coin and Shards boosters are now available for Nutaku Gold (and occassionally dropped by Orbs), or for hearts after purchasing the Ultimate Starter Pack. We thank you for your support and this change is reflective of our long term goals for the game whilst allowing players to get this booster without owning the Ultimate Starter Pack. Coin Boosters are now also dropped by Orbs to ensure that non-paying players can still receive these boosters.

It's fine, that Coin Booster can now drop of Orbs BUT... why change this things? Buying Coin Booster ONLY with real money just shows, how greedy this is.
Why not keep the option to still buy boosters with hearts? We "non-paying players" still need to farm hearths, it's not that we get hearth for just play the Game 5min...

More balance my butt

Underdog
01-04-2018, 03:09 PM
and it seems that the Orb spawn rate is decreased...

I realy hate if ppl talk about "balance" and makes it harder as before playing the Game. Just blablabla to get more money, thats all

Bruceski
01-04-2018, 03:38 PM
My offline gold earned was -30B

Teladis
01-04-2018, 06:11 PM
They just ruined the game with this change. No thanks I am done.

Semaphore
01-04-2018, 06:29 PM
They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.

Rager
01-04-2018, 06:33 PM
They just ruined the game with this change. No thanks I am done.

Add to this. The game is not even that good.

First off, The art is amazing...but it offers very little reward for such a long tedious clicker.

Using hearts was the addiction factor that keep it going, getting the boosts and such. Now that is tied for real money.

The dungeon system I was waiting for to see if it was worth it, but again they made the game even more tedious. now hearts is only good for unlocking slots unless you pay?


My point is this, The game nerfed the one of the two good things it had going for it. They are suppose to make me addicted so I would feel the need to spend money. They failed to do it, as the game play is not even close to great clickers like clicker hero.


If you want me to spend money, make the game better. Right now you just ruined it.

Semaphore
01-04-2018, 06:48 PM
They fixed the bug of ShardKeepers never dropping fantasy shards.

Locutus
01-04-2018, 07:39 PM
They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.I agree. Basically now, there's very little point in playing without the £20 investment - you might as well consider the free gameplay a demo, and the £20 as payment to actually play the game. But the psychology of it is weird to me, is the thing. For twenty bucks I could buy a great indie game, indeed I could buy several for that amount of money. Is this game worth £20 to me? Not really. And yet I'm probably going to buy the Miracle Ticket in Kamihime - but that's £50 for an SSR and basically nothing else: the "value for money" for the ticket is much worse than value for money here, with the starter pack. But I feel that self-justifying buying the ticket is much easier, because it is far more optional, compared to here where playing without access to the coin boost feels to me like it would be so slow as to be pointless. Or maybe it's that I don't want to pay for something that was previously free? I don't know.

Anyway, I'll watch this game to see if they patch it to make it more reasonable (although I'm not sure how they'd do that), but I'm not actually going to bother playing it anymore until they do.

Zagar
01-04-2018, 07:50 PM
I just got planet Coaster for 11 dollars on steam. A fully feature game, and you want me to spend 20 dollars for features I had at the start of the game? For an Idle game?!


LMAO!

Eliont
01-04-2018, 09:22 PM
I'm done with this shit.:angry:

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 09:31 PM
It's fine, that Coin Booster can now drop of Orbs BUT... why change this things? Buying Coin Booster ONLY with real money just shows, how greedy this is.
Why not keep the option to still buy boosters with hearts? We "non-paying players" still need to farm hearths, it's not that we get hearth for just play the Game 5min...

Because this....


They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.

I really don't have any sympathy for people that complain about what it is they get for free, particularly in a game where having a large player base doesn't improve the gameplay in any way for the players who do pay. Is it nice when the devs "screw up" and give everything away pretty much for free? Not gonna lie, yes. Am I gonna piss and moan when they do something to at least attempt to make money for their work? Nope.

Do *I* think this game is worth $20? Not really. I think they're pricing it a tad high. I haven't noticed a single orb since the patch, so whether or not they drop boosters is irrelevant. (not that I got 'em all that often beforehand. I "play" the game on my second monitor, so it's not like I'm all that likely to notice them in the first place)

(Incidentally, I had assumed the actual monetization scheme was going to involve the Dungeon "events" in some fashion)

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 09:37 PM
Oh, and P.S. I was actually assuming they were just going to reduce the chances of getting hearts, as the previous model was obviously broken. Going this way though, I would have probably tied it to ANY purchase other than the 1 hour coin boost, not just the starter pack.

And/Or have it be it's own ~$5 unlock purchase.

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 09:39 PM
Oh well I enjoyed the freebie while it lasted. My only complaint right now is I logged back on after about an hour from a previous save where i had about 15mil to the dismay of now being negative 30mil and have to work back up to 0. lol, kind of weird and annoying but whatever.

Unregistered
01-04-2018, 10:03 PM
Heh, the timing of the maintenance effectively cost me an amrita.

Do a bunch of 500 runs in the evening, when it gets late, exit out. In the morning, log on, use the money from overnight to get nymphs that'll get me to 1k no sweat while I'm at work.

Maintenance covered my morning quick log-in time. Doing a mess of 500 runs is still probably more important than chasing Amrita's at the stage I'm at, seeing as it slows way down after 500. Though admittedly with the gold boost off the table that may no longer be true. I'll have to think about that. Unlock as much as I can before my current boost runs out and I (probably) stop playing.

Hikari
01-04-2018, 10:59 PM
So, just to recap:

Bug Riddled on launch, with new ones sneaking into releases. The latest being the -negative offline gold income.
Clicker game where the clicking portion is pointless due to hilariously low click damage upgrades for the hero.
Also hilariously low income from monster drops, forcing either a looooong FTP slog or the dropping of $20 (Huge price hike for a clicker) for the 1000% gold boost. Huh, how convenient. /s
Resets, a common factor in idle games, do not significantly improve future runs. They merely serve as a way to gain RNG shards for furry art.
Game bleeds memory like a faucet. Unity ftw. Idling is painful for some machines.


I don't know who the devs are or if they have other games out there but I believe they approached launch with the wrong idea in mind. There is no gameplay unless you consider min-maxing characters in an excel spreadsheet worth $20, as playing purely FTP is going to be a long and painful slog. Clicking is broken. Half the hero abilities are broken/pointless. The passive items seem to be pointless. The gold drops are too low to support deep runs without a coin bonus. The super nymph abilities are unbalanced. In fact, I'd say most of the game in unbalanced and it's designed that way to get money out of players.

Which would be fine, if there was any fun to it. None of the scenes I've unlocked so far are all that...good?

Compared to some of the other games out there (such as Crystal Maidens, Armor Blitz, FKG), this really doesn't look worth the time

Unregistered
01-05-2018, 01:31 AM
1. Didn't really notice it all that many bugs on launch, I only saw 2 serious bugs: fantasy shards not dopping from shardkeepers, and it crashed sometime while I was at work (after getting to lvl 1030ish, so didn't really care) Pretty much everything in the patch notes are exploit fixes.
2. I suspect the negative gold is just a 1 time hiccup. The patch notes said it's switching from using a client side timestamp to a server side. So presumably if you were in a later time zone (which is almost certainly true for everybody in the U.S., assuming the devs really are located on the isle of man) You could very well been logged out for "negative time". Sure, it would have been nice if they caught that, but considering how often you restart in this game, negative money shouldn't affect you all that much unless you happened to be between 1 and 100 when it happened.
3. Do people really ever kill their mice by actually clicking in games like this? Can't imagine actually doing that, I assume people either ignore the option or have a mouse that lets them build a macro. This puts everybody at a level playing field.

Devs also did Shards of Eradine. (which I presume uses all the same H art) and is *far* more of an actual game. (I haven't gotten far enough in the two games to verify that) I vaguely seem to remember that when taps was first announced, they basically said it was going to just be something they threw together with the assets they had from Shards... Which makes it lame since, from what I remember, Shards has been obtainable for less than the $20 you now have to pay to pretty much be able to play Taps. (and, as I said, is an actual real game) (It'd be nice if they somehow, at least, gave those who actually bought Shards the ability to buy gold boosts with hearts in Taps.)

Underdog
01-05-2018, 05:08 AM
I haven't noticed a single orb since the patch, so whether or not they drop boosters is irrelevant. (not that I got 'em all that often beforehand. I "play" the game on my second monitor, so it's not like I'm all that likely to notice them in the first place)

I would have no problem with a change like getting Coin Booster only from Orbs for "free" IF they actually have the same spawn rate as before:

On a Run to 1000 i got before the Patch arround 20-25 Orbs(even for that long time, it a bit less)
But now it's like getting only 5 at max (i keep my coins in the mail system until i reset)

So basicly everything is real money only, and the "nice" option for free Coin Boosters are a farce.

The end of this is: ppl get extremy forced to buy the starter pack, because without a coin booster, it takes forever to make at least one run to 500 or 1000 and im at that point, i nearly only need amrita, they even didn't think about it, what we will do with al that shards if an Element is fully upgraded like fire. (i have now 21 useless shards untill maybe new Mons are coming)

I don't play the Game after my booster runs out, because then you play very long until a booster drops(and i think that will be not a 7 day booster at all) until i "can normaly play" like before.

Oh and btw: because the Orbs are more rare now, it slows down the start of an reset and forget about getting tickets. This "Update" is a nightmare and because im a F2P Gamer, im out... (the only good thing left of this game is the cute pixel animation for attacks and some cute Artstyle before it starts to get "hentai")

Balance ideas?
-Bring back the Orb spawn rate as before
-Reduce the Hearts Droprate of Super Bosses from 100% to 50% OR remove hearts drop from Orbs (if the spawn rate is increased)
-Let us buy Coin Boosters with hearts

It's a different to "work" for progress, as to get forced only to pay until you can play. Sure i say the Heart droprate was a bit high, after getting the 4. Nymph Slot, but reducing the use of hearts to nealy zero and slow down the coin rate for F2P player is just: "pay or go" so i go until fair changes happen.

Unregistered
01-05-2018, 11:25 AM
Thing is.

As a free player the devs have absolutely no reason to care if you're out. If you aren't going to play, you're just using up server cycles that could be put into making a paying players game more responsive.

So yes, it does seem that with the current drop balance it essentially becomes buy to play after a certain point. So what? That's the way they want to go, fine. Tons of games are buy to play. Some $20 games are probably even worse.

There is absolutely NOTHING unfair with the devs deciding, Hey, if you want to actually have FUN playing our game, you have to pay. If anything that IS fair. You want to enjoy the fruits of their work? Pay 'em.

All that said, I'm of the opinion they've "shot themselves in the foot" with the AMOUNT of payment they are requesting. IMO the game simply isn't $20 good, and I expect if they put their purchase price lower they'd actually get more money. Who knows though, maybe they're planning on other ways to enable boosters for hearts that are more reasonable for the quality of the game.

Un-kolo
01-05-2018, 12:03 PM
Well I really enjoyed the game before it got force-restarted, now it's more and more a chore and not fun. Any progress got really slow and as usual you have to rely on luck to get anything useful. I'd say that it's still on bearable level for me, I get it that they have to make money on this but if it gets any worse then I'll probably quit, or switch to relying only on daily spins. Too bad they forgot that it's best to hook people up first and squeeze money off them later because right now it's really not a friendly start.
A bit of a waste since I liked the art (got lucky to evolve mostly the more human-like nymphs) so it kind of depends on what you pick and as said earlier later stages are generally less furry.
Seems the only useful tactic is to evolve high level nymphs to stage 1 to get boost at as low cost as possible and after unlocking at least two super-nymph slots level them up to 10 from bottom to top (I think evolving only boosts DPS not a super attacks damage).
As for the system requirements - the memory leaks are really big during reloading or rebirth, other than that I can play it no problem on my almost 10 year old laptop just fine: be it on autoclick or background when I'm playing something light (usually VNs) on Steam. For now I'd say that server downtimes are more of an issue.

Underdog
01-05-2018, 12:52 PM
The Point is:

if a F2P Game is at the end not even close to a F2P Game, then it sucks.

If you ask me, they can say: "pay 20 bucks" but don't make it F2P. But make it "F2P" with hard force every player to pay is not F2P at all.

Sure i know they don't make a game to be complete free or increase the work of P2P player, but if they talk about balance between F2P and pay ppl, then there is none, because the F2P Parts are also hard reduced to nealy zero.

Maybe the already Premium ppl are stay, but they will lose many other ppl they maybe want to pay, but not anymore.

sniddy
01-06-2018, 04:44 AM
I'm in agreement if a F2P game effectively forces you to pay or face grinds that last months - then it's not F2P

I'll support F2P games I enjoy, I'm not a whale but over the last 2 years roughly of FKG I must have put in over $100, possibly closer to $200 - that's F2P

If this game is NOT F2P I won't stick around, you won't hook me on your game, and I won't convert to a light payer - I'd rather games offered me deals to get things I don't need but want

Semaphore
01-06-2018, 10:52 AM
I think that people are overreacting. The patch didn't instantly end whatever gold boost you had, so you still get to play out the rest of your 1 week gold boost. By the time that ends, you've got 6 super nymph slots unlocked, all the nymphs you care about at least to stage 3, max rank French girls' charm, and whatever else. With that setup, a run to 1000 is going to take what, a day or so? Maybe two? Yes, it will be slower than if you had the gold boost, but it's not a PVP game, so if a free player levels slower than someone who pays, so what?

And the $20 purchase is also a one-time thing in order to be able to subsequently buy gold boosts with hearts. If it were $20/week, then yeah, that's whale territory. But if you're not willing to pay $20 for a game, then either you're not willing to pay anything at all and should be ignored when they make business decisions, or else you don't like the game and having a gold boost wouldn't be a good reason to keep playing it.

Borgu
01-06-2018, 11:21 AM
To save us all time/money, anyone have the art ripped or links to the art?

Unregistered
01-06-2018, 12:29 PM
Agreed, the game is effectively P2P with a free demo. (as it currently stands) So what?

About the only argument I can think of is it's in the free/browser section of the Nutaku site. Well, it seems unlikely they'll make a new section for a single browser games that is P2P with free demo.

(Incidentally, I'm actually wondering if the reason we aren't seeing any gold boosts is because we are (I assume) mostly still under the effects of an existing gold boost. Wouldn't particularly surprise me if they didn't want players to be able to stockpile them.)

And yes, somebody posted a link to the ripped art already. I'd also assume Shards of Eradine shares most of it. (Own Shards, but waiting for the scheduled update that fixes the save system before I really get into it, so no idea if Taps really was just an asset flip.)

Unregistered
01-06-2018, 12:43 PM
Oh, and yeah, IMO they really need to figure out a use for shards once you've got every girl to stage 3 for that type. I'm there for fire already, and approaching it for a couple of the others. And, of course, nowhere near for fantasy. (Hearts could also use something, for what it's worth. Free players can't buy anything with hearts now, and the 10 per 7 day gold boost that payers can won't use up many of 'em once everything else is purchased.)

I'd argue some sort of exchange:
Something like 2 shards of X for 1 shard of Y
10 shards for 1 heart
10 hearts for 1 amrita

(I *think* even with that exchange rate getting to 1000 would be a better way of getting Amrita than running to 500 and resetting, but that would at least give you something to do with your extra currency.)

Borgu
01-06-2018, 12:47 PM
And yes, somebody posted a link to the ripped art already.

I checked the thread again, didn't find a link

Eliont
01-06-2018, 09:41 PM
Gallery named "Taps of Eradine" on sadpanda, category "Western", uploader "ShaDowPoWeR".

Teladis
01-06-2018, 10:30 PM
Thing is.

As a free player the devs have absolutely no reason to care if you're out. If you aren't going to play, you're just using up server cycles that could be put into making a paying players game more responsive.

So yes, it does seem that with the current drop balance it essentially becomes buy to play after a certain point. So what? That's the way they want to go, fine. Tons of games are buy to play. Some $20 games are probably even worse.

There is absolutely NOTHING unfair with the devs deciding, Hey, if you want to actually have FUN playing our game, you have to pay. If anything that IS fair. You want to enjoy the fruits of their work? Pay 'em.

All that said, I'm of the opinion they've "shot themselves in the foot" with the AMOUNT of payment they are requesting. IMO the game simply isn't $20 good, and I expect if they put their purchase price lower they'd actually get more money. Who knows though, maybe they're planning on other ways to enable boosters for hearts that are more reasonable for the quality of the game.


I agree it is not unfair, but lets be real here. The mistakes and even the art is not worth a 20 dollar price tag.


I just fully unlock Snow fox, and let me tell me it was not worth the trouble. I did not feel rewarded for it.


So unfair? Nope, but we can tell what this game really is. A way to get a sucker to give them quick cash on a poorly done clicker. The fact that this game is on Nutaku they should feel ashamed with such a poor quality game. They can do what they want, but I wanted the game to be fun, and i wanted to spend cash on it. I refuse to now.

Unregistered
01-06-2018, 11:43 PM
There's such a thing as a well-done idle game? I'd have to argue this is better than either of the other two on Nutaku, Fap Titans and Attack on Moe. (then again, I only played Fap Titans for maybe the first week it was out.)

blakfayt
01-07-2018, 10:59 AM
There's such a thing as a well-done idle game? I'd have to argue this is better than either of the other two on Nutaku, Fap Titans and Attack on Moe. (then again, I only played Fap Titans for maybe the first week it was out.)

Attack on Moe is better because it's far more balanced. There's no "super slot" where your idle DPS really comes from, all of the characters you buy do decent damage for the point of the game you get them at. Reincarnating gives ACTUAL BENEFITS, not just "some gold you can easily get" and "random shards" until you get strong enough to break 500 levels to get an item used to get "sexy art."

If you want a better idle/clicker game, Attack on Moe H did everything right that Eradine does wrong. Explaining everything would simply take more time than you just going and trying it out for an hour. You'll get further in an hour of Moe than you will in an hour of Taps.

Underdog
01-07-2018, 11:28 AM
but Attack on Moe H have at least one big flaw: Heroes can die and it depends on what Artefact on woth Level you can, it can take 12-24h until your died hero is back to live. How they die? If they need to long to beat a Boss.

So for me, AoMH was never realy an Idle Game, because if you try to go idle, your heroes die one by one untill your dps is destroy and you stay there with an cd.

Reseting the Game? Is maybe a good idea, but if only 1 hero is dead, you get only half of the rewards for reset. (and more over the active events was the reason i quit, because i don't want to sit 24/7 to collect rare drops and be carefull that my heroes stay alive)

If ToE would have this dying feature, you will hate the Game for sure

blakfayt
01-07-2018, 07:38 PM
but Attack on Moe H have at least one big flaw: Heroes can die and it depends on what Artefact on woth Level you can, it can take 12-24h until your died hero is back to live. How they die? If they need to long to beat a Boss.

So for me, AoMH was never realy an Idle Game, because if you try to go idle, your heroes die one by one untill your dps is destroy and you stay there with an cd.

Reseting the Game? Is maybe a good idea, but if only 1 hero is dead, you get only half of the rewards for reset. (and more over the active events was the reason i quit, because i don't want to sit 24/7 to collect rare drops and be carefull that my heroes stay alive)

If ToE would have this dying feature, you will hate the Game for sure

I never encountered the problem because spending the crystals or whatever to revive the character was always a better choice than whatever other buffs you bought with them. That maybe different now that they're going for the shitty gachapon milking process that every other H game is doing, but even without whatever you get from the gacha I still did a thousand floors in just a couple of weeks which is more progress than I've made in Taps. Haven't even hit 500 and frankly after seeing the first "sexy" image I'm not sure I want to keep going. The pre sexy art style is much more attractive.

Unregistered
01-08-2018, 10:19 PM
I assume some of us have probably run out of gold boost by now, has anybody actually gotten one as a drop yet? (Note: I think I've only seen/caught 4 orbs since the patch, and I've had the magnet maxed (though not active) for days., if that matters.)

(Note: I'm still under the aegis of my boost for another day, and everything except golden puppy shield is maxed, so all I need at this point is amrita)

Unregistered
01-09-2018, 12:12 PM
Talk about phoning in a game.

*shrug* IIRC when they first announced this (on steam, I think?) a long while ago, they pretty much said it was going to be an asset flip of shards assets to sorta promote shards/the shards world. Later on Kimochi it was allegedly so popular they wanted funding to add all the H content from shards.

So, uhm, yeah. It is pretty much just an asset flip. I can only assume shards didn't do as well as they hoped so they're trying hard to monetize taps.

Rager
01-09-2018, 01:55 PM
*shrug* IIRC when they first announced this (on steam, I think?) a long while ago, they pretty much said it was going to be an asset flip of shards assets to sorta promote shards/the shards world. Later on Kimochi it was allegedly so popular they wanted funding to add all the H content from shards.

So, uhm, yeah. It is pretty much just an asset flip. I can only assume shards didn't do as well as they hoped so they're trying hard to monetize taps.


Maybe if they made good games they would make money.

sniddy
01-09-2018, 02:04 PM
Nah pump some pooh out monetise it hard make it shiny and and add some PVP for the whales to battle for E-peen

Unregistered
01-09-2018, 03:28 PM
They made all the assets themselves or didn’t they?

Unregistered
01-09-2018, 03:39 PM
They made all the assets themselves or didn’t they?

If you're talking about the character art, one of the devs (a few days ago) in their discord confirmed that he was going back to the tattoo artist who did the designs for some changes to a few images. I don't think they do/did art in house. Or at least the more advanced stuff.

TiamatRoar
01-09-2018, 06:13 PM
Isn't the game made by like... one guy? I thought the game's intro said something like that.

DrunkMonkGar
01-09-2018, 10:34 PM
So I've taken the time to examine the pop up numbers, unless they're lying the French Girls Charm improves the damage of super moves.

Unregistered
01-09-2018, 10:53 PM
Has anyone experimented with auto TPS apps for this game? I have one and I'm running 20 tps. Just wondering what the max anyone has used? I started with 200 and the game said 'Nope!'.

BigBobs
01-09-2018, 11:48 PM
A review of the power moves
Job for the Superblow: 890x clicks at max level, but tap damage is so low proportional to cost it's still not great.
Rage: get 1250 counts for tap achievements, but that's about it.
Scorched Earth: abysmal. Long duration, but near-zero damage per tick.
Winter is Coming: doesn't seem to work, otherwise this would be handy for Treasure Whores.
All For Once: a nice strong hit. Not bad if you need that push before a timer.
Fog: Great multiplier, p[retty good skill.


Winter is coming I think is designed to work on everything but the treasure bosses. It's worked a few times if I wanted to clear a hurdle on a normal boss.

Unregistered
01-12-2018, 06:09 PM
The grinding time to reward ratio is garbage. Half the sexy scenes are less revealing than the 3rd regular one... I am dissapoint.

hornyg4mer
01-12-2018, 06:59 PM
Sorry if this was covered already

So if i evolve my girl, does it scale with her levels? I mean what if i evolve her first, then level her to 10. Is it the same amount as if i evolved her to ten then used shards to evolve?

If its the same damage, then great. If not, i need to know if i should save gold to level before using any shards.

Again, sorry if this was answered. Im late for something, and i will browse the whole forum later when i have free time.

blakfayt
01-12-2018, 07:58 PM
The grinding time to reward ratio is garbage. Half the sexy scenes are less revealing than the 3rd regular one... I am dissapoint.

I finally quit the game after getting my second sexy image because, no offense to whoever the artist is, the normal art was much more charming and arousing to me than the sexy stuff. More power to anyone that likes them and can stand the grind, but they just aren't my thing and if I'm not getting an erection there are much better, more balanced clicker games out there to be wasting my life on.

Unregistered
01-12-2018, 10:15 PM
I finally quit the game after getting my second sexy image because, no offense to whoever the artist is, the normal art was much more charming and arousing to me than the sexy stuff. More power to anyone that likes them and can stand the grind, but they just aren't my thing and if I'm not getting an erection there are much better, more balanced clicker games out there to be wasting my life on.

Not sure which nymph, but from what I've seen there is an extremely wide range of quality in the art. I'd guess at LEAST two different artists were involved.

And yeah, in many cases the artist doing the sexy art was less talented. (IMO)

I don't actually mind the "grind", since I'm not actually doing anything, so I just by the first sexy, if I don't like it switch to a different girl.

Locutus
01-13-2018, 10:35 AM
Sorry if this was covered already So if i evolve my girl, does it scale with her levels? I mean what if i evolve her first, then level her to 10. Is it the same amount as if i evolved her to ten then used shards to evolve? It's the same.

Borgu
01-14-2018, 08:59 PM
Did the link to the art just... disappear?

Unregistered
01-15-2018, 11:34 PM
Wild. All the skill stats seem to have changed for me. AsianDragon, for instance, became fairly worthless with a 10 second final skill. Maybe it changed earlier and I just somehow missed it, but not happy. Had her up to sexy 1.

(Dragon, on the other hand, upgraded to a 1 second move. Doing about 3x the DPS of AsianDragon now.

I could have sworn they were all the normal 4 second ones earlier today.

Borgu
01-18-2018, 05:17 PM
I'd like to know the new level up abilities if anyone knows.

Unregistered
01-23-2018, 02:10 AM
All the art in Taps are just leftovers from a failure long ago called pocket pussies. They repackaged it and tried to sell it again along with Shards. Shards may actually be a real game tho. Look up an artist by the name Atryl, he did all the art for light mantis, and he's one of my favorites.

Unregistered
01-23-2018, 11:26 AM
That's not exactly a secret - CryptidTech's patreon page talks about it.

Unregistered
01-26-2018, 07:49 PM
The damages and attack times changed on the final skill of half the nymphs. The 4second ones most all keep
the same damage as the chart on the first page, but the ones in brackets changed.
I asked someone for the damages on the last two, Anglerfish seems very low so that damage might not be correct.
The number just after their name is how many max galleries they have, so nymphs with 8 wind up with highest
damage boosts.. From what I noticed spending a few amritas, nymphs with 4 galleries unlock just a single h-scene.
5-7 galleries seems to be clothed pinup that removes clothes with unlocks. 8 means a gradually changing h-scene,
like with a different expression or speedlines.

Frea5 4s 4500 Tiger8 4s 8190 Squid4 10s 122,200 Scorpion5 8s 244,200 Raptor6 8s 576,000
Rat5 15s 1,265,000 Phoenix6 10s 3,106,000 Penguin6 4s 879,250 Panda7 4s 929,000 Monster8 4s 973,500
Monkey8 4s 1,110,460 LightMantis4 4s 1,317,870 Giraffe8 4s 1,465,100 [Gingerbread4 2s 1,008,000] [Gecko5 3s 2,764,000]
[Fairy6 8s 874,440] Dragonfly5 4s 2,256,000 [Deer8 3s 2,207,250] [Bee8 6s 9,522,912] Angel6 4s 4,446,520
[AsianDragon8 10s 18,1888,000] [Dragon8 1s 6,504,630] Snowfox7 4s 9,948,300 Turtle8 4s 9,504,040 Unicorn8 4s 11,385,600
[Flowergirl8 3s 9,483,600] Seahorse8 4s 15,355,900 Robot5 4s 19,976,000 Orca6 4s 17,081,400 IceCream5 4s 23,942,625
Rabbit5 4s 26,230,125 Chicken8 4s 29,708,800 Mammoth6 4s 26,585,300 Demon8 4s 31,647,200 [Frog8 3s 31,608,720]
Squirrel8 5s 54,982,400 [Medusa4 4s 51,283,800] Ferret6 4s 31,967,750 Sheep8 5s 42,011,100 Gryffin5 4s 74,343,500
[Bear5 3s 83,583,500] Anglerfish8 4s 64.7M Bat7 4s 112.5M

I also wrote down a rough estimate of how much it costs to get a nymph from 1 to 10 so when I get a big chunk of offline coins
I know who I can max out without falling short. I was beating enemies while calculating these so they're far from exact, though.

Panda 20m Monster 28m Monkey 48m LightMantis 75m
Giraffe 109m Gingerbread 141m Gecko 169m Fairy .2b Dragonfly .2b Deer .3b Bee .3b Angel .3b
AsianDragon 346m Dragon 398m Snowfox 446m Turtle 478m Unicorn 490m Flowergirl ~890m
Seahorse 2b Robot 3.5b Orca 5.2b IceCream 7b Rabbit 9b Chicken 9.4b Mammoth 9.8b
Demon ~12b Frog 14b Squirrel 20b Medusa ~28b Ferret 30b
Sheep 34.7b Gryffin 38b Bear 39.2b

Nemesis48
02-02-2018, 12:50 PM
I also wrote down a rough estimate of how much it costs to get a nymph from 1 to 10 so when I get a big chunk of offline coins I know who I can max out without falling short. I was beating enemies while calculating these so they're far from exact, though.

Panda 20m Monster 28m Monkey 48m LightMantis 75m
Giraffe 109m Gingerbread 141m Gecko 169m Fairy .2b Dragonfly .2b Deer .3b Bee .3b Angel .3b
AsianDragon 346m Dragon 398m Snowfox 446m Turtle 478m Unicorn 490m Flowergirl ~890m
Seahorse 2b Robot 3.5b Orca 5.2b IceCream 7b Rabbit 9b Chicken 9.4b Mammoth 9.8b
Demon ~12b Frog 14b Squirrel 20b Medusa ~28b Ferret 30b
Sheep 34.7b Gryffin 38b Bear 39.2b


What I found as a decent rule-of-thumb is that you take their after-unlocked figure (so their L1->2 amount) and multiply by 120. It gets pretty easy once you've done it a few times... Take Gingerbread (since that's the one I happen to be looking at and the math is easy). 1.2M after unlocking. +20% = 1.44M. Add a few zeros, and 144M to L10

Unregistered
02-24-2018, 07:33 AM
Finally i got every single Hero on Max Level so now i can tell you their Dmg and Speed.
I will list the name and then 1. attack & Speed 2. attack & speed and so on.

Well atleast that was my plan until i realized im too lazy to list them all.
If you are wondering if any Heros are special or more valuable. Nope.
Theres only 1 Hero that is a must have - Dragon.
Unique 1 Second cooldown Tier 2 Attack (6,5 Million per second)

Maybe i could tell you which (more expensive) Heros have an 3s Tier 2 attack (only the last attack).

Bear: 3s, 83,5 Million Dmg
Frog: 3s, 31,6 Million Dmg
Flowergirl: 3s, 9,5 Million Dmg

All other Heros have an 4 second cooldown BUT there are even worse ones.
Dont buy: Sheep(5s), Squirrel(5s), AsianDragon, Fairy, Rat, scorpion, squid (bad cooldown times 5-15 sec)

And if you wonder about Anglerfish and Bat, Anglerfish is really bad - Bear and Gryffin are way better
Bat has the most powerful 4 second attack (112 Million) but other than that nothing special. And its really expensive.

Heros which i used: Penguin, Bee, Dragon, Flowergirl, Robot, Demon, Frog, Bear and Bat. By the way:
you want to farm money on Stage 499 - 500. When you´re Dragon is atleast Stage Sexy 2 it should be able
to destroy every monster within 1 second (afk farming). Another tip is : Only buy 1 stage of the active bonuses
for example "French Girl Charm" = Stage 1: 50% more Hero DPS. Stage 2 only gives +5% so its a waste.
You dont need any other active bonuses.

Well thats it so far. Have fun with the game ^^

Unregistered
02-24-2018, 01:29 PM
Honestly, I find everything after ~Chicken to be pointless, unless I have a gold multiplier. I'll be at level 1000 and rebirthing before I get another girl maxed, unless I was over halfwayish to 1k before having to go to work/sleep. (I'm under the impression the rewards are simply linear, so there is no reason to go past 1k)

Currently I max (and have maxed "sexy"):
Frea
Raptor
Penguin
Panda
Monster
Monkey
Dragon
Snowfox
Turtle
Robot
Chicken*

*I can typically get to 1k w/o chicken, but I do get enough money to max her before hitting 1k.

FWIW, currently sitting on:
905 hearts
lowest shard count is 305
52 Amrita. (usually get at least 1 a day, more on weekends where I can upgrade the nymphs more efficiently. Stockpiling for if/when I need to max sexy other girls if/when the dungeons come out.)

(Oh, and PS. May as well max all the charms, there's nothing else to use hearts on.)

thatoneguyfromwork
02-26-2018, 11:30 PM
So quick question. I just finally got all 6 party nymphs...what do you do with hearts after this?

DrunkMonkGar
02-26-2018, 11:51 PM
Max out all the active boosts.

Unregistered
02-27-2018, 11:33 PM
Max out all the active boosts.

And then use 'em to buy amrita. Though there seems to be a limit to how many you can buy. (I was only able to pick up 5) Not sure if it's per day or not. Still have ~700 hearts left. (pretty stupid that you can't see how much "currency" you have on the shop page.)

Unregistered
05-13-2018, 06:26 AM
And then use 'em to buy amrita. Though there seems to be a limit to how many you can buy. (I was only able to pick up 5) Not sure if it's per day or not. Still have ~700 hearts left. (pretty stupid that you can't see how much "currency" you have on the shop page.)

How do you buy amrita with hearts? Do you need to have the supporter pack? Everything else is maxed out for me already.

Unregistered
05-13-2018, 12:22 PM
How do you buy amrita with hearts? Do you need to have the supporter pack? Everything else is maxed out for me already.

Shop->Gahder Goods->Deals IIRC one on the far right is hearts->Amrita, but you can pretty much only do it the number of times it's in stock, it hasn't refreshed in however long it's been since Gahders Goods went in.

Unregistered
05-14-2018, 02:53 AM
Shop->Gahder Goods->Deals IIRC one on the far right is hearts->Amrita, but you can pretty much only do it the number of times it's in stock, it hasn't refreshed in however long it's been since Gahders Goods went in.

Only show 2 nutaku gold deals for me, and i'm 100% sure that i didn't get it before. :l

Darkrider
05-14-2018, 11:39 PM
Does anyone know if they did some update to make it harder? I have been playing for a couple weeks and it got so that I could get to 1000 pretty easy but now it seems to be going a lot slower the last couple days. I got to a point where I could upgrade chicken and get there without getting enough money to get the demon but the last time it took way longer and I was able to max out demon frog and squirrel before hitting it. I recently got every girl to stage 3 with some beyond that (dragon i maxed all the way) and I just got every boost maxed out.

DrunkMonkGar
09-08-2018, 07:52 PM
Is anybody able to play this? I can't get through the new update without Chrome crashing.

OwlBajs
09-16-2018, 05:23 AM
Is anybody able to play this? I can't get through the new update without Chrome crashing.

Yes, I'm playing right now. Try clearing cache by pressing Ctrl + Shift + Del in Chrome, and select the relevant points in the dialog that pops up.

Unregistered
09-26-2018, 10:51 AM
Doesn’t raptor have an attack that Doha’s a 1s cooldown? Been a while since I played but it seems to be able to get me all the way through at least 500s.

Unregistered
10-15-2018, 10:55 PM
I like the updates but holy fuck the game is full of little bugs right now and runs even worse. They should probably make a desktop version.

DrunkMonkGar
10-26-2018, 10:35 PM
Well, the performance upgrades were either a lie or a complete botch job. Can't even load the damn game after clearing cache, so it's worse than the last update where that would at least get the game to run poorly every other day.

How the hell does someone fuck up an idle game this badly?

DrunkMonkGar
11-18-2018, 07:36 PM
If anyone else was having trouble getting the game to function, it works acceptably well on the Nutaku desktop client. Except that it looks like all the event nymphs and equipment are cash only, so I don't actually know what the point of the game is.

Eliont
03-24-2019, 05:15 AM
Have OP XMAS set.
What's better strategy to farm Mega Hearts for unlocking remaining events ?