[Event 46] The Vibrant World Flower Maidens (2018/01/09-2018/01/23)

[AgentFakku]

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[Unregistered]

E-4 needs to be animated.

[Lantana topwaifu]

that e-4 gave me troubles. had to make one squad intentionally weak as balls, so it would die from a boss. and even that gave me a chuckle, when Russelia, bless her big, erm, book, nearly soloed the boss. and yeah, i got a 900 speed helper.

[condu]

Hey, what will the Forge Spirits be?:)

[Solarius]

200 gems and I didn't manage to get miko Lycoris despite the "increased rate". I really, really want her. Sigh, I hope she'll be available again next year. :sad:

[wolf]

i used alot of my FGs on trying to get Ivy so i could only do 1 pull but

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at least i got the gold Anemone :D

[kabosu]

This event should just be renamed "Everyone cries over not getting Lycoris"

Alternative "Everyone cries over not getting a single Miko despite using over 100 FG"

[Unregistered]

This event should just be renamed "Everyone cries over not getting Lycoris"

Alternative "Everyone cries over not getting a single Miko despite using over 100 FG"

Lycoris salt mines inc.

[condu]

Lycoris salt mines inc.

:)))))) I laughed so hard at this.

[Zandel]

E4 is really simple guys. Just have all squads roughly = in speed and move 1 from the right to the left. 100% clear each time.

[Drip]

E4 is really simple guys. Just have all squads roughly = in speed and move 1 from the right to the left. 100% clear each time.
Or, in case you have a rediculous speed squad (I have one squad at 897 speed while the rest is between 500 and 600 speed), put that squad in slot 4, and stick with the default setup.

[FriendlyFacez]

What I want to know is, where are the one-time only gachas? I can't remember another time since joining where we've gone so long without one.

[smr]

I want to have sex with Eucharis

[Unregistered]

High blood pressure ahoy from all the salt. 50 gems and nothing over 4 rank

[Solarius]

This event should just be renamed "Everyone cries over not getting Lycoris"

Alternative "Everyone cries over not getting a single Miko despite using over 100 FG"

That's just how it is when they took the best knight and then make her a "shrine maiden". Ten times the charm. :cool:

[Sound]

Well got to burn the 200 gems i been saving

1 roll:Swimsuit Cattleya and the last silver unit i been missing sweetpea
2 roll:Tree Peony
3 roll:Lady Sorrel new year
4 roll:Miko Dianthus

quite pleased got 1 one of the girls i wanted and new units as well.

[AgentFakku]

I was wondering why we had a retreat button
https://i.imgur.com/0L4E0xsl.jpg
then I realise it's useful to throw away normal raid bosses during raid boss events

Just hit retreat

[Unregistered]

I wish people would throw away those seedy seeds instead of cluttering with 40 of them during a raid boss event.

[Unregistered]

So do peeps here think it is better to use the FGs for Stamina regen/material/Whale runs instead of hoarding for an 11 pull? Saw comment on this and how most of the pulls would just be vender trash anyway.

[FriendlyFacez]

I'm guessing it depends on two factors:

1: Do you have a team of twenty characters in your squad that you like? (And mostly 5* or 6*?)

2: Are you willing to pay any 'real money' whatsoever (even if only a limited amount compared to the true 'whales') for one-time gachas or daily deals that guarantee you 5* or 6*s?

If the answer to both those questions is "Yes" I can definitely see the logic behind preferring FGs for anything but 11-pulls as you're relying on other sources to get the characters you want for your team, and your team's already strong enough without needing extra characters to fill out your ranks.

[Unregistered]

Well I haven't spent a dime on the game and would like some new 5 ranks and know that getting a 6 is nigh impossible without money. I have plenty of characters from the events that still need development so I guess I can fall back on the 5 ranks.

BTW, I glanced at youtube and saw a supposed guaranteed way to get a 6rank from the free gacha by this method

1.Don't do the daily free pull
2.Take the team through a map run
3.Spend 5 fgs on the premium 1 pull
4.Do free pull a

[FriendlyFacez]

Well, I envy your financial responsibility.

However, if you're not going to spend real money in the game, I'd strongly recommend you continue to do 11-pulls, at least until you get more solid 5*s. You'll have bad luck with some of them, even most of them, but you have no other way to even have a chance of getting new quality 5* or even 6* girls on your squad.

I've probably went through about a dozen premium 11-rolls with the awful 5* and 6* odds (a few of them I purchased, most of them just through collecting FGs) since I joined and I have gotten two 6*s and at least ten 5*s that way. It's tempting to get down on the 11-rolls when you get unlucky, but it's worth noting that the odds are objectively over 50% with every 11-roll that you'll get at least one 5*. In other words, based simply on the numbers an 11-roll will more likely than not (not always, but probably) give you at least one 5* character that will probably be considerably better than the 'free' 5*s you'll earn through events.

And I'd say that's worth more than stamina rejuvenation if that's the only way you can potentially collect more quality 5* and 6* girls.

[Taon]

Well I haven't spent a dime on the game and would like some new 5 ranks and know that getting a 6 is nigh impossible without money. I have plenty of characters from the events that still need development so I guess I can fall back on the 5 ranks.

BTW, I glanced at youtube and saw a supposed guaranteed way to get a 6rank from the free gacha by this method

1.Don't do the daily free pull
2.Take the team through a map run
3.Spend 5 fgs on the premium 1 pull
4.Do free pull a

Consider that, if that method in any way actually worked:
1) people here would never complain about gacha pulls since they wouldn't have a need to do them, and
2) the FKG dev team wouldn't make a dime since no one would pay for premium pulls or even guaranteed tickets.

To be perfectly clear, that method you saw doesn't work and if it -ever- did, didn't work for very long.

[Taon]

Well, I envy your financial responsibility.

However, if you're not going to spend real money in the game, I'd strongly recommend you continue to do 11-pulls, at least until you get more solid 5*s. You'll have bad luck with some of them, even most of them, but you have no other way to even have a chance of getting new quality 5* or even 6* girls on your squad.

I've probably went through about a dozen premium 11-rolls with the awful 5* and 6* odds (a few of them I purchased, most of them just through collecting FGs) since I joined and I have gotten two 6*s and at least ten 5*s that way. It's tempting to get down on the 11-rolls when you get unlucky, but it's worth noting that the odds are objectively over 50% with every 11-roll that you'll get at least one 5*. In other words, based simply on the numbers an 11-roll will more likely than not (not always, but probably) give you at least one 5* character that will probably be considerably better than the 'free' 5*s you'll earn through events.

And I'd say that's worth more than stamina rejuvenation if that's the only way you can potentially collect more quality 5* and 6* girls.

As much as I prefer saving my FGs for stamina, I can't argue the points you've made (but I'll try!); if you don't want to pay any money at all into the game then without the FG gachas, you will hit a brick wall with just event 5*s...but not as soon as one might think.

A good number of event 5* have decent stats and abilities, and since they are pretty easy to get to 5/5 will definitely outperform most, if not all, non-event 5* who are sitting at 1/1. I'm not sure that a group of 5/5 fully ampied event girls could take on later whaleship missions, but they will definitely get you through all other current content.

But, until you build up a good stable of event girls (don't forget the reissues!), I would probably still argue that FGs are better for stam to allow you to run reissue maps alongside current events. It definitely isn't exciting, but I think would get you the most bang for your FG. Right now, there are 20 permanent-reissued girls to get, one reissued girl and of course, the current event girl. That's more than enough to get you a team of full 5* units with enough variety of abilities and attack types (at least 5 of each attack type).

[Taon]

I was wondering why we had a retreat button
https://i.imgur.com/0L4E0xsl.jpg
then I realise it's useful to throw away normal raid bosses during raid boss events

Just hit retreat

I wish more people would do this for non-event RBs. That said, it looks like the RB list is now sorted with event RBs always at the top.

[Unregistered]

It does seem that boosting the event jewelry instead of normal stuff(with the silver /gold) plus the second tier of affection(even minus the second h scenes) will get one rather far into whale maps if one does a dedicated 'whale squad', even with 5 rankers

[Zandel]

FG Gatcha is like this... would you like to feel what real gambling is like without losing actual money? If so roll gatcha. I tend to do it for fun since I just don;t have the time to burn all the stam I could refill with them instead. I'd go for Character Slots and Equip Slots before stam refills 90% of the time.

[FriendlyFacez]

As much as I prefer saving my FGs for stamina, I can't argue the points you've made (but I'll try!); if you don't want to pay any money at all into the game then without the FG gachas, you will hit a brick wall with just event 5*s...but not as soon as one might think.

Well, I suspect both you and I have spent real money on FKG, and once you take that route, I absolutely agree; if you're investing in occasional one-use gachas (just never that godawful expensive Black Baccara 6* one) and occasional tickets with daily deals, you should always use your FGs on anything that isn't 11-rolls as you'll A: gradually get the characters you want through tickets anyway and B: most the one-use gachas tend to involve premium rolls (often with better odds) as part of the package deal.

Where I disagree with you is on the event 5* girls. Not that they're not useful -- they're definitely useful in battle. But until recently with new standouts like Eucharis, Trailing Abutilon and Skimmia, the art direction for previous 5* event girls just stunk. I know it's subjective to a large extent and I'm not here to denigrate anyone else's favorite character but it really felt like the FKG team consistently put less effort into the design of many of those characters. I'm not just talking H-scenes, but also battle animations and abilities...it just feels like the 'real' 5* girls have so much more personality and are so much more interesting, and that's even before you consider their better stats.

Add onto that the more than 50% odds you'll actually get at least one new 5* with every 11-roll, and I'd still definitely recommend the FTP crowd roll the premium gacha until they get at least a decent base of solid characters. At the very least, you want an 'A team' (Team 1) of 5* and 6* Waifus with designs and personalities you really like.

I mean, sure, there are 20 permanent-reissue girls to get. But if you're as picky as I am, the vast majority of them won't be nearly as worthwhile as the vast majority of regular 5*s you can roll for. But I guess it depends on your goals with the game -- if you just want to max out your team's stats and have a good enough team to take on any challenge then sure, the event girls will do. My perspective is, FKG is basically a Waifu simulator, so you want to make sure you maximize your chances of getting your Waifus, and that's more important than having enough stamina to churn through every map or fight every battle. I'd rather make significantly less progress in the game with a team of girls I cared about -- heck, as of now I've only done one reissued or permanent reissued event period, and only because I cared enough about Russelia's design (a rare outlier for the event 5*s) to invest to get her.

That's all just my two cents, your mileage may vary depending on why you're playing FKG and what you're looking to get out of the experience.

[Unregistered]

Eh, stamina refills can have questionable value themselves. Between my level being sufficiently high (yay being in the needing near 20 hours to refill stamina club) and my normal schedule, stamina refills have zero value to me most of the time. I just need to keep a reserve in case of trips.
Raid boss events can be manic though.

11-rolls themselves are a gamble (and I've had horrendous luck with them). But there's really little else to even spend flower gems on for some free players. What's there to get/do with them? Push your storage slots from X00 to X50? Great, that's 10 gems. AKA 1 week worth of gems (8 from a half of the main event, 1 from a half of a reprint, and 1 from every 5th day). One weak later? Push your storage slots from X50 to the next multiple of 100? Eventually you either hit 'enough' or 'current maximum the game allows'.
And it's been long enough since there were stuff to buy with gems (like the rainbow dressblooms for 50 gems each) or did the 'do a 50 gem 11-pull and get a 5* gacha ticket' offer that it's safe to assume they'll never come back. What else is there to even do with gems? It's basically why this week I shrugged and threw 100 out of my ~220 gems to try (and fail) getting the Lycoris variant.

[FriendlyFacez]

What else is there to even do with gems? It's basically why this week I shrugged and threw 100 out of my ~220 gems to try (and fail) getting the Lycoris variant.

If it makes you feel better, I spent $40 for the one-use gacha under the erroneous assumption that I'd be able to get Shrine Maiden Lycoris with it!

It sort of worked out for me anyway due to some dumb luck with the gacha rolls, and I probably would've done it anyway even if I knew the Lycoris form I wanted was off the table (her new design is so much better than her old one!), but I miscalculated on that one.

Stamina boosting was of great use to me in the last event, if only because I can't imagine flipping all those cards for the stuff I wanted without it. Then again, I'm only LV 58 right now.

[Taon]

Well, I suspect both you and I have spent real money on FKG, and once you take that route, I absolutely agree; if you're investing in occasional one-use gachas (just never that godawful expensive Black Baccara 6* one) and occasional tickets with daily deals, you should always use your FGs on anything that isn't 11-rolls as you'll A: gradually get the characters you want through tickets anyway and B: most the one-use gachas tend to involve premium rolls (often with better odds) as part of the package deal.

Where I disagree with you is on the event 5* girls. Not that they're not useful -- they're definitely useful in battle. But until recently with new standouts like Eucharis, Trailing Abutilon and Skimmia, the art direction for previous 5* event girls just stunk. I know it's subjective to a large extent and I'm not here to denigrate anyone else's favorite character but it really felt like the FKG team consistently put less effort into the design of many of those characters. I'm not just talking H-scenes, but also battle animations and abilities...it just feels like the 'real' 5* girls have so much more personality and are so much more interesting, and that's even before you consider their better stats.

Add onto that the more than 50% odds you'll actually get at least one new 5* with every 11-roll, and I'd still definitely recommend the FTP crowd roll the premium gacha until they get at least a decent base of solid characters. At the very least, you want an 'A team' (Team 1) of 5* and 6* Waifus with designs and personalities you really like.

I mean, sure, there are 20 permanent-reissue girls to get. But if you're as picky as I am, the vast majority of them won't be nearly as worthwhile as the vast majority of regular 5*s you can roll for. But I guess it depends on your goals with the game -- if you just want to max out your team's stats and have a good enough team to take on any challenge then sure, the event girls will do. My perspective is, FKG is basically a Waifu simulator, so you want to make sure you maximize your chances of getting your Waifus, and that's more important than having enough stamina to churn through every map or fight every battle. I'd rather make significantly less progress in the game with a team of girls I cared about -- heck, as of now I've only done one reissued or permanent reissued event period, and only because I cared enough about Russelia's design (a rare outlier for the event 5*s) to invest to get her.

That's all just my two cents, your mileage may vary depending on why you're playing FKG and what you're looking to get out of the experience.

Oh, you don't have to suspect; I freely admit to having spent quite a bit of money on this game (mostly on good premium gachas and daily deals). :)

No argument on the artwork; the only difference is that I don't usually factor subjective things such as artwork along with objective things such as stats and abilities. For a choose-your-waifu(s) viewpoint, yes, plenty of the event 5* are...lacking (but considering that Muppet-girl (https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl/FKG:Gerbera) is a premium 5*, I don't hold the offending event 5* artwork against them). Objectively though, the event 5* are decent enough.

I do want to clarify though, I am not saying that you need -never- to spend FGs on gacha rolls; only that you don't -have to- for a good long while when you're starting out as strictly F2P. Eventually the squads of event 5* aren't going to cut it for doing late whaleship and, if we ever get them, challenge maps. With -very- rare exception, it isn't possible to get non-event 5* and 6* without spending either FGs or money on the gachas, but F2P players starting out shouldn't feel compelled to do either; especially when you consider the odds of getting a particular waifu in the gacha.

Personal anecdote: I spent about 150 FGs trying for Poppy during her event (https://harem-battle.club/wiki/Flower-Knight-Girl/FKG:Splendor-Festival-Grande-Fleur). My first time getting her was when I broke down and bought her with a 5* ticket...since then she's popped up in various gacha rolls 3 times. I spent over $100 worth of FGs chasing a particular unit, during her gacha (boosted rate), only to eventually pay $20 for her. That pretty much soured me on spending FGs chasing particular units in the gacha.

TL;DR: I'll see your two cents and call. :D

[Unregistered]

^Art direction.

I agree with this certainly. 2-3 girls are pretty much the same models with swapped hair, although there have been some redos with girls like Di Yu. The whole Waifu things is why I like having different girls in a squad instead of multiple versions of say Peach due to my sad obsession with roleplaying *sob sob* ;)

[FriendlyFacez]

Oh, you don't have to suspect; I freely admit to having spent quite a bit of money on this game (mostly on good premium gachas and daily deals). :)

Minor disagreements aside I think we're on 'close to' the same page.

For me personally it really boils down to this: If you're spending enough time playing FKG that you're in a position where you're refilling stamina and churning through tons of maps to try to enhance your team, you might as well just invest in some quality daily deals or one-use gachas so you're spending all that time with a team of your choosing that you really like.

Time is money and all, so there's really no sense in investing that heavily into FKG without taking it one step further so you're actually using something close to your ideal team.

Spending a tremendous amount of time playing FKG and praying and hoping for good premium gacha 11-rolls to give you the exact team you want is a terrible idea. But if you're a more casual F2P player who just wants to enjoy some of the weekly events and have some fun with the base functionality of the game, then you might as well spend FGs on premium rolls because you shouldn't be so invested as to need the FGs for stamina or anything else. Either you're casual and gambling FGs to roll a waifu is more useful than the alternative, or you're hardcore and you'll pay to customize.

There's really no sense in being a hardcore F2P FKG player, in my opinion. The required investment of day-to-day time to get anywhere even remotely close to 100% completion of events and whatnot is really only worth it if you're obscenely invested in customizing your personal squad of favorite waifus and that's only possible with tickets.

I'm not saying you have to be the kind of whale who buys everything -- many of Nutaku's deals are complete wastes of money and there's too much fluctuation with cost. Discernment is still a virtue. But I paid something like a measly $5 for my #1 waifu Madonna, and I can't imagine investing 20% of the amount of time I've given FKG without her and a few of my other favorites.

TLDR version: If you're spending dozens upon dozens of hours playing FKG, at one point or another investing real money into the game is actually less expensive then the time you're already investing just for the chance of rolling the girl you want.

[condu]

TLDR version: If you're spending dozens upon dozens of hours playing FKG, at one point or another investing real money into the game is actually less expensive then the time you're already investing just for the chance of rolling the girl you want.

Exactly :) I saw this the first time i bought a ticket deal and i got Victoria. Even if you invest only once in the game, with real money, the experience changes.

In a positive way because when you do that, let's say, buy a ticket, you customize your game experience in what way you want. You want a nice team which benefits from a girl with drain skill? Ok, pick one. You want a nice team which can have a powerful 6* bloom? Ok, pick one. You want a nice team with the main leader of the squad a nice waifu that just looks hot in your opinion? Ok, pick one.

It's not about being a whale and buying every deal or everything. It isn't worth it. It's about making your gaming experience comfortable and enjoyable. Not dependable on luck or RNG , like 90% of the game which doesn't matter so much, except for gacha, but dependable on how you want it to be.

And that choice from my personal opinion, saves a lot of time, a lot of stress and makes the game enjoyable.

I got till now like 7 rainbows, and i really got them because i like the game not because i need them very badly to get over a stage. I mean not even whale. Back to when i had just 3, i already could make the 2nd stage at whale and farm sun medals over and over, using like 80 FG. I eventually got 2 necklaces and even some bloom birds and dragons.

But my overall team is weak :)) I have in 2nd and 3rd squad, 2* evolved characters. So i bet that even with just one rainbow you can get over 1st stage at whale or maybe even 2nd if you manage your team evenly.

But the main advantage of paying is pleasure.
You play your game with what characters you want, make your squad how you want it and the rest just comes. Doing events and reissues is just enough to get all the good items for evolutions/blooms/equipment and that's all :)

I myself am a med student so don't think i have a ton of cash. No sir. But i learned myself the following:

If you love to have something in life, you must invest a lot of resources to get that. Emotions, money, time , you call it. But always remember. Time is the precious one because that you can never get back.

Even if you invest 1000$ in FKG which i dunno can give you i guess over 50 rainbow girls, even if you don't need it. Even if you do that, that 1000$ is never a huge loss. I bet that in 1-2 years you can get the money back, by working or saving money. Or even less time.

But farming and doing everything in the game, just to get all the chances you can , for a better experience in the game, takes a lot of time. And that time, isn't free and won't be returned to anyone.

So, basically. Just do what you can to make your life easier and pleasurable. After all, Gods awaits us all and like Eminem said it.

You only have one chance :)

[AgentFakku]

I got 50 FG

since everyone is aiming for HCB's favorite furry, I gave it a go (https://imgur.com/a/cYA3A)
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2 new Gold gurls - Im good despite no fox gurl LOL

I had Ivy and Snake Gourd on DMM now I have both on Nutaku - weird

at least, Lilac is done (https://i.imgur.com/QAzcumx.jpg)

[kabosu]

Since I've been playing I've really only rolled for girls and have 37 none event girls
All together I think I've spent £15 on 3 different £5 deals

Depending on how long you're going to be playing the game you don't really need to worry about buying girls and if you don't really plan on staying with the game then you have no reason to buy girls

[Unregistered]

5 FG as compensation

[wolf]

I got 50 FG

since everyone is aiming for HCB's favorite furry, I gave it a go (https://imgur.com/a/cYA3A)
8729
2 new Gold gurls - Im good despite no fox gurl LOL

I had Ivy and Snake Gourd on DMM now I have both on Nutaku - weird

at least, Lilac is done (https://i.imgur.com/QAzcumx.jpg)

Dx IVY !!!!!!!!!!!!
lucky bastard getting one of my favorite chunibyou's

[AgentFakku]

now to enjoy a hot RP w/ Ivy

Ivy - you want to test your eye against my burning hand of darkness muhahahaha

https://i.imgur.com/XZ6Um6ll.jpg

those are some awesome usernames LOL

Im past 10K sweet, time to buy da new gurl (https://i.imgur.com/IdFEiM4m.jpg)

[AgentFakku]

I don't pay attention to DMM or Nutaku since im so busy

believe it's rare
https://i.imgur.com/Z26T37Nm.jpg
good day it is

[hypo]

Damn, I thought it would take longer...

8795

I would not mind getting a few more manyus from the event shop, I need to upgrade my whaleship team so I can finally pass mission 7-5.

[Unregistered]

7-5 sure is a female dog kind of mission. tried 3 times, was close once due to lucky activations. 2 other times? around 30-40% left on boss

[Unregistered]

My whale ship is 1.133m total power. With my usual helper, the ship runs 1.237m total power. And yet, I've had some really close calls on 7-5 and I feel like it shouldn't be close. Like - if the pest had one more turn I'd have lost.

[Drip]

7-5 sure is a female dog kind of mission. tried 3 times, was close once due to lucky activations. 2 other times? around 30-40% left on boss
Early advice: don't bother going for 3 medals on the 11-? maps.

[hypo]

Early advice: don't bother going for 3 medals on the 11-? maps.

I got 3 medals on all 11- missions since long before the 6- and 7 whaleship missions, and they were quite easier.
But for missions 15-, on the other hand...

[Unregistered]

Early advice: don't bother going for 3 medals on the 11-? maps.

i meant whale 7-5 tbh

[Drip]

i meant whale 7-5 tbh
Ooooh, right, lol! And yes, that one is a pain. My whaleship went down twice due to lack of special attacks. At least Cactace got a pair of earrings out of it. The rest of the week I'll be farming it for blooming expenses and to prepare for the next set of earrings. The combination with the current boss-event is too good to pass up.

[Zandel]

I find it strange that other Vets of this game are having issues with whale ship.... do you not all have 80+ max level 5* girls by now? I mean I only add XP to girls as part of the daily quest each day and I have enough to fill the ship and change it to the colour I want without adding a non-max level girl and i'm a casual 2-3 or so logins a day player (morning, lunch{about 50% of the time} and after work).

Add to that the event equipment and my ship gets to 1.1mil of the right colour no trouble and I have yet to lose a single mission with that.

[Unregistered]

I find it strange that other Vets of this game are having issues with whale ship.... do you not all have 80+ max level 5* girls by now? I mean I only add XP to girls as part of the daily quest each day and I have enough to fill the ship and change it to the colour I want without adding a non-max level girl and i'm a casual 2-3 or so logins a day player (morning, lunch{about 50% of the time} and after work).

Add to that the event equipment and my ship gets to 1.1mil of the right colour no trouble and I have yet to lose a single mission with that.

and then you hit a run with 7-8 turns without activation abilities. guess you got lucky enough times. and it became somewhat of an issue since 6-5 and 7-5. so, yeah, bless your gods

[phob]

I find it strange that other Vets of this game are having issues with whale ship.... do you not all have 80+ max level 5* girls by now? I mean I only add XP to girls as part of the daily quest each day and I have enough to fill the ship and change it to the colour I want without adding a non-max level girl and i'm a casual 2-3 or so logins a day player (morning, lunch{about 50% of the time} and after work).

Add to that the event equipment and my ship gets to 1.1mil of the right colour no trouble and I have yet to lose a single mission with that.

I really like the challenge. This is making me improve my 5* support for whale for sure. I will be adding 3 random attack girls Wax Vine and Oncidium Christmas, Kale, Madonna, for added punch. I arranged team members by high attack and not total power. It helped my team. My team is at 1.2 mil

[Unregistered]

I find it strange that other Vets of this game are having issues with whale ship.... do you not all have 80+ max level 5* girls by now? I mean I only add XP to girls as part of the daily quest each day and I have enough to fill the ship and change it to the colour I want without adding a non-max level girl and i'm a casual 2-3 or so logins a day player (morning, lunch{about 50% of the time} and after work).

Add to that the event equipment and my ship gets to 1.1mil of the right colour no trouble and I have yet to lose a single mission with that.

The more you run, the more likely you are to see the rarer occurrences. As I said above - I've had a few really close calls in my numerous 7-5 attempts.

To give an idea of how many 7-5 runs I've done, I've gathered around 18k sun medals since Tuesday. That means, I've probably run 7-5 around 40 times. I've probably been one turn from losing three times. If things go really poorly for skill activation for me and really great for the pest, I assume I could actually lose. So, does it happen often? No. Can my team struggle? yes. Does it usually? no. But at 1.25m total power, I'd have not expected any close calls.

[Zandel]

and then you hit a run with 7-8 turns without activation abilities. guess you got lucky enough times. and it became somewhat of an issue since 6-5 and 7-5. so, yeah, bless your gods

If you are hitting any more then 1-2 rounds with no activation abilities from your girls then there is something wrong... most have 20-30% activation rate.

And if you mean the ship itself... then that is even worse RNG because abilities are 40% likely to proc vs not. It should never go more then 2-3 at most attacks without a proc.

[Unregistered]

If you are hitting any more then 1-2 rounds with no activation abilities from your girls then there is something wrong... most have 20-30% activation rate.

And if you mean the ship itself... then that is even worse RNG because abilities are 40% likely to proc vs not. It should never go more then 2-3 at most attacks without a proc.

yeah, it's called bad luck. like some peeps never seeing a rainbow for a year, while others pull double those. it happens

[Unregistered]

If you are hitting any more then 1-2 rounds with no activation abilities from your girls then there is something wrong... most have 20-30% activation rate.

This is just how random works. A coin can land on heads 10 times in a row. And we know exactly how often we expect it to happen: it should happen, on average, one out of every 1024 set of 10 coin flips.

The scenario sketched above is helpful to understand how to farm. Maybe losing 7-5 is a 1/8 chance. Which means that you might be able to clear it many times before coming across that one loss. But suppose the you know that there is no way you can lose 6-5. Then you should farm 6-5. Why?

For 720 stamina, you'll attempt 7-5 8 times and be successful 7 of them which gives 7*396 = 2772 or 7*418 = 2926 sun medals (depending on which route your whaleship takes). But for 720 stamina, you'd complete 6-5 9 times and be successful for all of them which would give 9*351 = 3159 sun medals. Knowing the probability to fail shows you which map you should farm. 1/8 failure chance isn't very high and might not be inferred in just a couple of attempts. And yet, 1/8 is high enough to make 6-5 the more efficient sun medal farming map.

[Zandel]

I completely understand the logic behind this and after posting in this topic I had my first whale ship crash since they added it. had a run of 5 non ship skills in a row with the pest getting it's max damage skill 3 times in a row.... bad luck on top of bad luck. In the end it came down to one hit... If I had another 2-3k HP I would have won.

After the fact I did some upgrades and got an extra 1-2k ATK and 2-3k DEF so I don;t think i'll have that trouble again. Guess I forgot to put Equipment on some of my girls.

[Unregistered]

I completely understand the logic behind this and after posting in this topic I had my first whale ship crash since they added it. had a run of 5 non ship skills in a row with the pest getting it's max damage skill 3 times in a row.... bad luck on top of bad luck. In the end it came down to one hit... If I had another 2-3k HP I would have won.

After the fact I did some upgrades and got an extra 1-2k ATK and 2-3k DEF so I don;t think i'll have that trouble again. Guess I forgot to put Equipment on some of my girls.

There should be almost an 8% chance of rolling the 60% option 5 times in a row. You have yet to see bad luck on that front.

[Myrdin]

The thing with WS in later stages is, you need that BLOOM on your girls. The raw stat increase is what you need for you WS.
I´ve been playing this game for a damn long time and just got my ass handed to my on the last stage of the new WS mission.
Unless you whale and have tons of 6* ov every color, your 5* of which most will be event ones anyway, wont have the stats to beef up the WS attack high enough for smooth sailing.

[Unregistered]

The thing with WS in later stages is, you need that BLOOM on your girls. The raw stat increase is what you need for you WS.
I´ve been playing this game for a damn long time and just got my ass handed to my on the last stage of the new WS mission.
Unless you whale and have tons of 6* ov every color, your 5* of which most will be event ones anyway, wont have the stats to beef up the WS attack high enough for smooth sailing.

2nd affection is a somewhat ok boost too.

[Unregistered]

As for whaleship: I'm a little surprised when I see Edelweiss or Evening Primrose that aren't level 80 in a helper group. Edelweiss is an event girl, so anyone can get her. Evening Primrose is the free 5* you start the game with. As for second affection, it makes a huge difference. It's around 3k total power. That's more than any single piece of jewelry - and cheaper too. Across 40 girls that's 120k total power. That's more stats than my 5 girls in team 8 have.

[Unregistered]

Does everybody get Evening Primrose as their first free 5* now?

[Unregistered]

I thought so. Maybe not - too lazy to start a fake account just to check.

[hypo]

Maybe it is now, but not 1 year ago...
My first 5* was Bipinna Cosmos

[Zandel]

My 1st on this account was Toad Lily.

[Unregistered]

Doesn't Evening Primrose replace the old starter 4* and guaranteed 5* roll?

[Taon]

When I first started last March, Toad Lily was the guaranteed 5*. It has apparently since been changed to Evening Primrose.

[AgentFakku]

LOL those usernames are killing me

https://i.imgur.com/eu5vXAXl.jpg

[Maladaptive]

Emptied out the Event Exchange Shop of gold, now just bashing pests for the kill rewards

[smr]

8886

big difference in survival when I swapped Acacia for Ivy haha

[hypo]

8886

big difference in survival when I swapped Acacia for Ivy haha

How do you get a Total Damage with Kerria and the boss still alive??

[Drip]

How do you get a Total Damage with Kerria and the boss still alive??
When a fight lasts too long, it times out in a draw. Not sure how many rounds that takes to happen though, probably 20 or 30.

[Unregistered]

new event live, apparently. yet i don't see anything. am i the only one?

[hypo]

new event live, apparently. yet i don't see anything. am i the only one?

They went a little ahead with the banner...
Now is the maintenance.

[Unregistered]

They went a little ahead with the banner...
Now is the maintenance.

phew. thanks for the answer, kind soul