Anyone think they'll fix affection?

[sniddy]

Right now this is the reason I just pop in and play the bare minimum - it's disheartening getting new girls when the scaling has gone insane....

Despite the smoke blown up our collective backsides does anyone think anything will be done?

[Tyruss]

Affection is no problem anymore ... money is problem. We can get lot of affection items now but we dont have money to buy them. And yes they said that they are working on new ways for us to get them.

[Unregistered]

Money is a big problem right now. Especially the scaling of the position your girls are to the amount they need to upgrade them (might have described that wrong but you get what I'm saying) I just recently upgraded Anyko to her last affection. She's #11 in my Harem and she costed over 10 million! It took me a week of collecting money and battling and I was logging in every 2-3 hours (when I was awake) every day. Not to mention that I used Kobans to refill my battle energy a few times. I get that they what us to work for the affection scenes and I completely understand that. But they need to give us more opportunities to get more money.

-Shadow

[Unregistered]

I dont know if they will but in any case, like most probably every player here, I hope so.
I presently have 60 girls. Probably fifty of them are full affection and I have a 100K/hour wage (in average huh)
with girls. Then Ankyo 5 stars (who is the 15th in my harem) will probably cost me something like 15 k affection + 14M.
Ok it's a porn game, but it's not a reason for asking for obscene amounts of cash to players. So as far I'm concerned I just refuse to up
her and the next ones to 5 stars and I will up the other ones to 3 stars during this time (which is not so hard for a veteran but I don't even think what a new player think of a 900K for a 3 stars).

Here the problem is that even if you accept to pay the cost, the next 5 stars will cost you even more until something like 150M and 1 month gathering 24/7 ?
So actually the more you are veteran (being high level)/have girls, the more the developpers thank you by make you pay more if you want them at their maximum level.
However, getting more and more girls isn't the goal of this game ? so maybe have some cap by level could be a great idea (same for the cost of pachinko)
I mean if tomorrow some people starts scripting using automation software based on image recognition in order to gather the money they will get an instant ban. In an other hand there is more than 100 girls available in the game , ankyo is just the 5th one, and she will cost you at least 10M. So I will let everybody here do the maths on how many times they need to get a 10M investment being worth it according to their play time and their money income.

If you agreed let a little comment on #saynotogolddiggers

[SamRei]

I only have 30 girls, so the new ones will become 3-star rather fast. It's the 5 star costs that really get out of hand. Abrael was No. 11 on my list, and the cost were way to high, my presents were gone, my money was gone and I still needed days of farming till I had enough to 5 star her. I'm sure the next 5 star girl will hurt even more. The cheap part (first 5 girls) is done. I guess they will 5 star all the world main girls next, and while Jenny is 7 and Noemy is 9, everthing after that won't be possible. Just the cost for the last step from 4-5 stars is more than I have, even if I somehow had enough affection items in the first place.

[sniddy]

So - the cap is 100 girls, unless it's 5* then 200 girls

Were drowning currently - this is a joke

[UnRegistered]

So - the cap is 100 girls, unless it's 5* then 200 girls

Were drowning currently - this is a joke

I thought the 4 and 5 star cap is at the 20th girl, not the 200th.

[Bigshow71]

I thought the 4 and 5 star cap is at the 20th girl, not the 200th.

According to the patch notes, it is.

[MuljoStpho]

So - the cap is 100 girls, unless it's 5* then 200 girls

Were drowning currently - this is a joke

20, not 200.

But yeah. I read that and just thought "well that's... 'something'... a very high something..."

I've got 73 girls in my harem currently so I'm still a ways off from seeing that 100 line where the requirements for the first three stars will cap. Of the... looks like 27? Of the 27 girls that I've obtained since 2.0 hit us, 16 are still sitting at just 1 star completed and 5 are at 2 stars completed.

With Samane's 4th and 5th stars coming up, she will be the first one for which one of the new caps will be relevant for me since she's 23rd in my list. I completed 5 of the 7 girls who currently have 5 stars available but I'm stuck building affection for Noemy's 5th star (she's 11th in my list), not to mention the scene cost that it will ask for after that, and saving up something like 16.5 mil for Abrael's 5th star scene (she's 17th in my list).

Off topic: When I saw the name but hadn't scrolled down enough yet to see the picture, I kind of assumed that "Windia, the Windwanker" would be modeled after someone from Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. Medli, maybe? But, no. Not even close.

[Unregistered]

20, not 200.

But yeah. I read that and just thought "well that's... 'something'... a very high something..."

Further tweaks regarding the affection issue will come soon.

[sniddy]

Sorry misread on the 5 starring them - but yeh 100 - whoppty frickin' do and to that 'helps'

[wthvr]

With Samane's 4th and 5th stars coming up, she will be the first one for which one of the new caps will be relevant for me since she's 23rd in my list. I completed 5 of the 7 girls who currently have 5 stars available but I'm stuck building affection for Noemy's 5th star (she's 11th in my list), not to mention the scene cost that it will ask for after that, and saving up something like 16.5 mil for Abrael's 5th star scene (she's 17th in my list).

Off topic: When I saw the name but hadn't scrolled down enough yet to see the picture, I kind of assumed that "Windia, the Windwanker" would be modeled after someone from Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. Medli, maybe? But, no. Not even close.

regarding the first part - I am pretty sure that 20th 5 star girl is meant to cap after you actually own 20 !5 STAR! girls and not if she is position 20+ in your harem

and windia, the windwanker is from the avatar anime and not zelda

[SamRei]

That wouldn't make much sense, at the moment cost are all about the position in your harem list. I would assume the flatrate will be kicking in at girl 21 in your list.

Also, I don't think many people will be happy with this, still sounds a little expensive. I guess I will 5star Noemy till tomorrow, but after that, I'm broke again

[wthvr]

That wouldn't make much sense, at the moment cost are all about the position in your harem list. I would assume the flatrate will be kicking in at girl 21 in your list.

Also, I don't think many people will be happy with this, still sounds a little expensive. I guess I will 5star Noemy till tomorrow, but after that, I'm broke again

oh yeah, I think you are right, as cost of 5 stars depends on position in your harem anyway. Pretty stupid to have them scale from position in the first place as it can be quite different between players and just puts an extra burden on the unlucky ones. Especially since 5 stars are released in a specific order they could have just priced them in that way too.

[UnRegistered]

I actually happen to think the cost depends on the number the girl has in the harem. In my harem Abrael is the 20th, and Noemy is 15th. Even though Noemy's 4th and 5th stars came later, they seem to cost need less affection points and cash. Abrael on the other hand was crazy. So many affection points and money! I'm still collecting the cash to go up from 4 to 5. (19.4 mil needed to upgrade)

We need more heavy duty cash incomes.

[Tyruss]

cost of affection and cash you need to upgrade girl depends on her number in your harem. That is why we got only Noemy and Samane will come later (she would be more than 20 for a lot of players so they hold her back before that update that will limit it)

[Girtrude8k]

cost of affection and cash you need to upgrade girl depends on her number in your harem. That is why we got only Noemy and Samane will come later (she would be more than 20 for a lot of players so they hold her back before that update that will limit it)

That raises the question of why they havent given Jennie she is the second story girl [not including the "starter" characters] for new players and still sorta low if you have her from before the list was based on when you obtained the girl. If they were gonna skip ahead should have done Fairy as a favor to veterans.[obviously after that 20 slot update so basically instead of Samane] Now you don't get her till clearing world seven but she is in my 4 slot meaning she's gonna be cheaper than my red battler and no one would complain about the cost of five staring her Juliette or Bunny

[Unregistered]

That raises the question of why they havent given Jennie she is the second story girl [not including the "starter" characters] for new players and still sorta low if you have her from before the list was based on when you obtained the girl. If they were gonna skip ahead should have done Fairy as a favor to veterans.[obviously after that 20 slot update so basically instead of Samane] Now you don't get her till clearing world seven but she is in my 4 slot meaning she's gonna be cheaper than my red battler and no one would complain about the cost of five staring her Juliette or Bunny

They haven't because they want to release Jennie and her Gay Harem's equivalent at the same time. But the later is ongoing an artistic redesign. Latest news say that they might release Jennie along Fairy in February or March.

[Girtrude8k]

They haven't because they want to release Jennie and her Gay Harem's equivalent at the same time. But the later is ongoing an artistic redesign. Latest news say that they might release Jennie along Fairy in February or March.

I suppose that's reasonable. Thanks for the info.

[vem]

Affection is no problem anymore ... money is problem. We can get lot of affection items now but we dont have money to buy them. And yes they said that they are working on new ways for us to get them.

Affection requirements scale with how many girls you have, so does your income. But the amount of items you can buy is always the same, so at some point it will become the bottle neck for everyone.

[Unregistered]

Affection requirements scale with how many girls you have, so does your income. But the amount of items you can buy is always the same, so at some point it will become the bottle neck for everyone.

No, because there is a cap on needed affection now.

[JustMe]

I have 73 girls as well. I have to be selective about which ones to add affection to. I've always tried to get new girls that have come out with the events, but I'm rethinking that approach. I'd hate to get a new girl now that I actually wanted to use.

[JustMe]

The problem is in the sunk cost. If I were to play fairly aggressively, collecting 8 times a day, from a girl that gave $1500, (pretty average), for 365 days a year, I would have gotten 4.38 million. Now, there is no way I'll see that much, but suppose I did. The cheapest cost of affection per game dollar is legendary lingerie at $417 per point. I have my 70th girl at 2 stars and to get her the third would require 10,645 affection. Some might be free, but not all will be in it's cheapest form, so I'll just use that cost. So it will cost me 4.44 million just in affection for that one. If I'm crazy about collecting, I just might recoup that in a year, but that isn't the whole cost of the upgrade.
Now I have to look at how many years it will realistically take in collections for the girl to pay for the upgrades I put on her. With cash becoming tight in the game, it becomes a poor use of resources to pay for affection and for the upgrades. You just have to decide how much a loss you want to accept.

If you think this is a good deal, let me sell you an annuity that pays back it's purchase price at twice your life expectancy.

[Unregistered]

The problem is in the sunk cost. If I were to play fairly aggressively, collecting 8 times a day, from a girl that gave $1500, (pretty average), for 365 days a year, I would have gotten 4.38 million. Now, there is no way I'll see that much, but suppose I did. The cheapest cost of affection per game dollar is legendary lingerie at $417 per point. I have my 70th girl at 2 stars and to get her the third would require 10,645 affection. Some might be free, but not all will be in it's cheapest form, so I'll just use that cost. So it will cost me 4.44 million just in affection for that one. If I'm crazy about collecting, I just might recoup that in a year, but that isn't the whole cost of the upgrade.
Now I have to look at how many years it will realistically take in collections for the girl to pay for the upgrades I put on her. With cash becoming tight in the game, it becomes a poor use of resources to pay for affection and for the upgrades. You just have to decide how much a loss you want to accept.

If you think this is a good deal, let me sell you an annuity that pays back it's purchase price at twice your life expectancy.

It's the good deal in the way that girls are not banks: the main reward to update them is their upgraded poses and affections scenes.
Improved money is a nice addition.
If you're not interrested in their other poses and affections scenes, you might find yourself better not to upgrade them (unless you wanna do PvP, in which case I suppose upgrading them becomes mandatory sooner or later.

[That Guy]

It's the good deal in the way that girls are not banks: the main reward to update them is their upgraded poses and affections scenes.
Improved money is a nice addition.
If you're not interrested in their other poses and affections scenes, you might find yourself better not to upgrade them (unless you wanna do PvP, in which case I suppose upgrading them becomes mandatory sooner or later.

Not point upgrading affection on girls unless they are the 3 on your team. With the new rules there is a point to leveling all of them especially is there is a contest that rewards it.

It would be nice to reach 3 or 5 stars but it isn't as if you can't see the pictures on the wiki.

With the move away from using points in the arena where affection items drop pretty often leveling up affection has become a huge pile of suck.
Also being pushed to fight bosses, well I want to avoid getting girl at least until I get the 1 boss girl per level as I figure those will go to 5 star quicker and I don't want the costs to spiral completely out of control. So much for that idea unless I stick with the lowest one [I got all his girls] and even then with events he will drop, or go PvP which gets me nothing as I understand it.

[JustMe]

It's the good deal in the way that girls are not banks: the main reward to update them is their upgraded poses and affections scenes.
Improved money is a nice addition.
If you're not interrested in their other poses and affections scenes, you might find yourself better not to upgrade them (unless you wanna do PvP, in which case I suppose upgrading them becomes mandatory sooner or later.

I'm sure you already have people playing who could are less about game play. The new changes won't affect them in the slightest. I can understand playing the game from the perspective of a collector. They want all the girls and all the scenes. The only thing this player needs to know about the game system is how to get the next girl. That is valid approach and the cost is pretty much meaningless as the scenes are part of their main goal.
The players that I'm talking about are the ones who want to play the game AND enjoy the scenes. There have always been aspects of the game that were at crossed purposes. They are trying to fix the boss vs. PvP issue in this update, but I doubt it will touch the game vs collection disparity. They seem to want players do PvP and participate in contests. And people who are mostly collecting can do that, to an extent. I mean it is there. There is nothing to stop them from using those. But, unless they want to spend some rl money, they just won't do as well as the people who are playing the game.
I started off collecting the girls because it gave me lots of resources that helped me play the game. If I were starting now, I would not use that tactic. Not a fan of significant changes mid-stream in a game, btw.

[Asdef91]

I'm level 55, just got to Invaded Kingdom. With this new update I'm stuck at a constant 20/20 battle points without being able to use them, because I'm afraid of Gruntt or Ninja Spy or Dark Lord dropping another girl, making Samane (who I need for my Know-How team) more expensive later on.

[Unregistered]

Seriously? You're scared to drop girl just because you want to upgrade Samane easily? LOL!
Just play the game, dude. With time, you'll have well enough money to upgrade Samane.

[vem]

No, because there is a cap on needed affection now.

Oh, good to know. But it's still pretty slow, and having to bank up affection items for weeks without knowing how many you will need kinda sucks. I had a good amount saved up but I didn't expect new 5 stars to come out and now I can't upgrade my new girls despite having 70M gold banked up.