How does the buff abilities work? (How does it choose girls)

[HakuYowane]

When it comes to abilities that say "3 girls including yourself" or "4 girls including yourself" etc.

Which girls does the ability choose? i am trying to make sense of it since it seems counter intuitive, here's an example:

https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/Juz.jpg

This is a team i made to check how it stacks damage.
Cattleya 27% ATK for 3 including yourself
Toad lily 15% ATK for 4 girls including yourself
Dahlia 10% ATK for all girls
Oncidium 10% ATK for all girls
Dayflower 10% ATK for 3 girls including yourself


Cattleya (27% (cattleya) + 15% (toad lily) + 10% (dahlia) + 10% (oncidium) + 10% (dayflower) = 72%)
Toad lily (15% (toadlily) + 10% (day flower) + 10% (oncidium) + 10% (dahlia) = 45%)
Dahlia (27% (cattleya) + 15% (toad lily) + 10% (oncidium) + 10% (dahlia) = 62%)
Oncidium (27% (cattleya) + 10% (oncidium) + 10% (dahlia) = 47%)
Dayflower (15% (toad lily) + 10% (dayflower) + 10% (oncidium) + 10% (dahlia) = 45%)

As you can see the buffs are all over the place so it's hard to predict which girls are going to get the buff when you're building a team.


And to make things even more confusing heres what happens when theres only one buff on different orders
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/JuJ.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/JuX.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/JuF.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/Juy.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/JuN.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/JuD.jpg
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2018/03/11/Juu.jpg

Does anybody know how it actually works?
I always thought it chose the 2 or 3 nearest girls or the next 2 or 3.

[Drip]

It's random, only the girl giving the buff is guaranteed to be one of the recipients of the buff as well.

[hypo]

It's random, only the girl giving the buff is guaranteed to be one of the recipients of the buff as well.

I always thought it was the team order.

[Taon]

My own observations have been that the buffs are, except for the source, randomly determined.

[wolf]

RNG as far as i know

[Zandel]

Yep agreed, RNG all the way. I've seen this happen with a full team of 4 inc self, had one girl reach over +100% a few times but more often than not they stayed at 70%ish each tho a few times I also had one with 20-30% only.

I have now moved away from girls that are not team wide buffs as much as possible for the sheer unreliability of them on a team scale.

[Tomitain]

I lean towards Knights with squad-wide attack buffs but I'll use Knights with bonuses that also affect 1/2/3 squad members depending on the total attack power boost given. Toad Lily in particular springs to mind; she only boosts three of her four squadmates but +15% attack power with no strings attached is still solid (and she's my second favorite Knight :silly: ).

If I had Black Baccara I'd consider using her alongside Kerria just for those rare occasions where the RNG pairs them together for +70% attack power before the other three squad members are factored in.

[Drip]

Yep agreed, RNG all the way. I've seen this happen with a full team of 4 inc self, had one girl reach over +100% a few times but more often than not they stayed at 70%ish each tho a few times I also had one with 20-30% only.

I have now moved away from girls that are not team wide buffs as much as possible for the sheer unreliability of them on a team scale.
Same here. Gladly, those buffs that only affect 2 or 3 squad members become pretty uncommon for 5* girls obtained from Gacha (while it is pretty common for event girls) and almost non-existant for Rainbow girls. Even if the buff for 2-3 squad members tends to be higher than a similar buff for all members, I rather have Alpinia with a guaranteed +20 ATK buff than a flaky 30% ATK buff.

[Zandel]

I lean towards Knights with squad-wide attack buffs but I'll use Knights with bonuses that also affect 1/2/3 squad members depending on the total attack power boost given. Toad Lily in particular springs to mind; she only boosts three of her four squadmates but +15% attack power with no strings attached is still solid (and she's my second favorite Knight :silly: ).

If I had Black Baccara I'd consider using her alongside Kerria just for those rare occasions where the RNG pairs them together for +70% attack power before the other three squad members are factored in.

I don;t mind the 4/5 girls buffed so much, it's the less than 4 buffed that I find unreliable.

[MagicSpice]

yeah, i find that the more they affect with the buff, the more reliable it is....

just my lead team is running with these buffs-

Lycoris: +18% atk to 4 members
Helenium: +30% atk to 3 members
Iberis: 1.2 skill activation to all members (if max affection), +15% atk to everyone
Scotchbroom: same as Iberis
Sakura: +18% atk to everyone, 1.2 skill activation to all members (if max affection), +35% atk to everyone during raid bosses, everyone deals 5% more damage to bosses and raid bosses

so if someone is lucky and it's a raid boss (like the current event at the time), they'll get 131% atk, 1.6 times the skill activation rate (pretty much pushes it to no less than 35%) and deals 5% more damage with their attacks... and bonus points if it's a magic-weak raid boss

even then, they'll have no less than 82% atk increase.... looking at the opposite

and just remove 35% if it's not a raid boss so... 47%-96% atk at all times. and at the least, 2 members WILL get the max amount


can't wait til I can bloom my other 4.... looking at the wiki for the DMM version, the numbers get even more stupidly OP