Most Powerful Stat Composition for teams?

[MagicSpice]

There's been a lot of talks and such of kamihime that can make the most powerful teams, but what about stats?

using anything DMM side has, what would the future hold for those just trying to raise stats...

this is assuming they have access to all eidolons, weapons, and kamihime, along with multiple copies carrying the highest valued stats, any accessories giving the highest stats, and +99 assumed on everything (kamihime used included).

there's already been teams with total power ratings surpassing 50k, but how much would the most beefed up stats push this further. this is mainly out of curiosity cause we all know not even a kraken/space whale could pull this off... this is more abyss spending territory if someone wants to pull this off

oh, and feel free to convert it into damage output if you want too, cause naturally, 2 copies of MLB 100% eidolons would really spike damage, along with a grid full of assault and extra buffs

[Unregistered]

Strictly in terms of Atk, right? With no consideration for actual usage/synergy?

[Unregistered]

5 mlb kaisers + your element mlb 100% eido (120% cause mlb) and a weapon grid of kh weapons and himeless weapons all with flb, this should give you retarded stats without entering much into details, you could say that a mono element eido grid + the new 140% eidos could be better (cause they need mono eido grid to work) but im not sure which one pulls ahead in terms of dmg, stat wise the kaiser grid is better.

[MagicSpice]

Strictly in terms of Atk, right? With no consideration for actual usage/synergy?

you can factor in usage and synergy if you want, but in terms of cranking out the most damage output, that's the main focus. it'd be something like this for instance:


Mars, Svarog, Arthur (all possible soul mastery effects), Uriel, Ares all at +99, fire grid with assault and pride all at lv150, +99, and max skill lv, lv100 belial as lead and friend, five copies of lv100 nova dragoon (3300 atk each) all at +99, each kami has 3 copies of fire tiara all maxed out (with whatever you want as the effects)...

something like that... only you can use whatever is on DMM's side to increase the output...

in fact, just using the strongest stuff i see would be as follows:

fire tiara- 1397 atk, 279 HP (so 3 of these is 4191 atk and 837 HP added to each kami)
nova dragoon- 900 HP and 3300 atk per copy (at +99 totals 999 HP and 3597 atk per copy, so 5 copies is 17,985 atk and 4995 HP to everyone)
flaming sword ascalon- 247 HP, 3197 atk per copy (at +99 totals 346 HP and 3494 atk per copy, so 10 copies is 34,904 atk and 3460 HP to everyone)

awakened Ares is at 1430 HP and 11,500 atk at lv80 (+99 makes it 1529 HP and 11,797 atk)
awakened svarog is at 2000 HP and 9500 atk at lv80 (+99 makes it 2099 HP and 9797 atk)
awakened Uriel is at 1450 HP and 11,200 atk at lv80 (+99 makes it 1549 HP and 11,497 atk)
Mars is at 1580 HP and 8520 atk at lv80 (+99 makes it 1679 HP and 8817 atk)

so totals after that would at least be this much for kamihime i used (not sure on souls):

(grid + accessory bonus to everyone- 9292 HP, 57,080 atk)

Svarog- 66,877 atk, 11,391 HP
Mars- 65,897 atk, 10,971 HP
Ares- 68,877 atk, 10,821 HP
Uriel- 68,577 atk, 10,841 HP


something like that. still have to apply equipment rules (hence why i used arthur and not shingen)

[Unregistered]

You forgot Ares getting +20% from her preferred weapon type being swords, as well as everybody getting +10% from each fire eidolon.

[QXZ]

wait... how does favourite weapons work in this game?

[Slashley]

wait... how does favourite weapons work in this game?Each Hime has a favorite weapon type. This is often the same type as the weapon that unlocks them, but not always.

They gain 20% extra stats from their own favorites. But since there's a limited amount of event SSR weapons in the game and SSRs are ~20%+ more powerful than SRs, this doesn't really apply to non-space whales at all. Sometimes you get a bonus from a few weapon, sometimes you don't. But space whales can flood their grid in SSRs of a certain type, and possibly even pick a team where multiple Hime prefer the same type. This gives a ridiculous amount of bonus damage.


The best way to see the stat bonus in action is to mess around with Eidolons. Same element Eidolons are the preferred type, so you gain 10% extra stats from those. Try to take out a 1000 atk Eidolon and you'll see that your same element Hime will lose 1100 atk.

[MagicSpice]

You forgot Ares getting +20% from her preferred weapon type being swords, as well as everybody getting +10% from each fire eidolon.

true, i did overlook that cause i honestly forgot that was a thing...

so really, ares would get 200% extra and the whole team would get 60% more (70% if the friend eidolon counts)

but even without that, you can already see what kind of power all those +99's and MLBs do...

[CBW]

so really, ares would get 200% extra and the whole team would get 60% more (70% if the friend eidolon counts)


This is a math thing. You get 10% from each of 6 eidolons (lets say 1000 ATK each, for 6000 total), you get a bonus (1000 * 10%) x 6 = 600 ATK. You could not say you get 60% of anything without it getting weird.

[KitsuneHime]

Each Hime has a favorite weapon type. This is often the same type as the weapon that unlocks them, but not always.

They gain 20% extra stats from their own favorites. But since there's a limited amount of event SSR weapons in the game and SSRs are ~20%+ more powerful than SRs, this doesn't really apply to non-space whales at all. Sometimes you get a bonus from a few weapon, sometimes you don't. But space whales can flood their grid in SSRs of a certain type, and possibly even pick a team where multiple Hime prefer the same type. This gives a ridiculous amount of bonus damage.


The best way to see the stat bonus in action is to mess around with Eidolons. Same element Eidolons are the preferred type, so you gain 10% extra stats from those. Try to take out a 1000 atk Eidolon and you'll see that your same element Hime will lose 1100 atk.


Is this effective in Nutaku KH already?

Also, when you say they gain stats from their fave weapon, do you mean if it's the main weapon, or not necessarily as long as it's equipped?

[MagicSpice]

This is a math thing. You get 10% from each of 6 eidolons (lets say 1000 ATK each, for 6000 total), you get a bonus (1000 * 10%) x 6 = 600 ATK. You could not say you get 60% of anything without it getting weird.

i thought it also increases HP too

so if an eidolon gives 100 HP and 1000 atk matching the team's element, then the end result should be 110 HP and 1100 more atk



Is this effective in Nutaku KH already?

Also, when you say they gain stats from their fave weapon, do you mean if it's the main weapon, or not necessarily as long as it's equipped?

not sure if it's on nutaku myself.... haven't tested it out lately (i know it wasn't there months ago at least)

and if you have the weapon they like (someone said it was swords for Ares), then it doesn't matter where it is as long as it's on your grid, even for souls

[Kureru]

It is on Nutaku already but I don't think it gives extra HP at the moment. In DMM it does but it took them quite a while to implement/fix that.

[MagicSpice]

It is on Nutaku already but I don't think it gives extra HP at the moment. In DMM it does but it took them quite a while to implement/fix that.

great... now i neglect ignoring rahab and medusa rerun for the most part cause they still give water/dark teams an extra boost at lv100...

i'm sure we haven't had enough events of each element to override them... but if they can't add up to other eidolons at lv100 then it's a different story. it'd put lv100 medusa at about 1800 atk for dark teams and lv100 rahab at about 1900 atk for water ones...

[Unregistered]

Yes the extra 10% is working on nutaku, but its only worth in some cases when that 10% overtakes another off element eido, assuming useful active too, and this isnt something usual considering veterans have plenty of 2k+ atk eidos thanks to +99 stuff, the most recent one that its worth to take into consideration is Icarus since she can overtake some eidos in a wind grid thanks to the 10%, but most of the time its just a nice bonus to have, not gamechanging at all.

[MagicSpice]

Yes the extra 10% is working on nutaku, but its only worth in some cases when that 10% overtakes another off element eido, assuming useful active too, and this isnt something usual considering veterans have plenty of 2k+ atk eidos thanks to +99 stuff, the most recent one that its worth to take into consideration is Icarus since she can overtake some eidos in a wind grid thanks to the 10%, but most of the time its just a nice bonus to have, not gamechanging at all.

from what i hear though, the 10% does help in the case of the 100% eidolons...

so double Belial with a ton of nova dragoon subs would probably be ridiculously strong right? at the very least, that's almost 1100 HP and almost 4k attack with each one at +99 and lv100 and they're all giving the 10% bonus. add on the fact that there's 5 of them in that sample build i put there...

more so, while that does seem like a very unlikely build (we're talking about 25 nova dragoon pulls and 5 belial pulls with it), that honestly is doable with enough luck or whaling (still gonna be a lot unless your SSR rate is insane)... +99 on eidolons are also easier to do compared to weapons/kamihime as well

[fucka]

from what i hear though, the 10% does help in the case of the 100% eidolons...

so double Belial with a ton of nova dragoon subs would probably be ridiculously strong right? at the very least, that's almost 1100 HP and almost 4k attack with each one at +99 and lv100 and they're all giving the 10% bonus. add on the fact that there's 5 of them in that sample build i put there...

more so, while that does seem like a very unlikely build (we're talking about 25 nova dragoon pulls and 5 belial pulls with it), that honestly is doable with enough luck or whaling (still gonna be a lot unless your SSR rate is insane)... +99 on eidolons are also easier to do compared to weapons/kamihime as well

the chance for kaiser dragons is lowered since they got buffed. and 5 dragons for each elements lol.

[MagicSpice]

the chance for kaiser dragons is lowered since they got buffed. and 5 dragons for each elements lol.

while true, that's honestly not the point...

the point is to try and come up with the most broken setup involving stat boosts as if it was easy to get everything in the game