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Unregistered
03-29-2018, 05:23 AM
I just started to play DMM version of FKG (about 2 weeks ago, 130k strength for now) and have some questions.
1) what is the best way to spend FG? 30 FG gacha withount 6* or 50 FG with chance to get 6* or maybe something else? I'm a FTP palyer.
2) when do you recomend to start blooming? ASAS or when i should have 20 evolved girls about 70 lvl? because in difference from nutaku i have 6k sun medals from begining
3) about rarity up - is there a good reason to up rarity of low quality girls - like 2* Cyclamen and 4* St.Paulia? Shold they have only have a stat boost or their skill will be boosted too? Should they be compartable with normal 6* or it shall be like event and gacha 5* - for example Threasure flower vs Primrose? It's because i can up their rarity withount a bloom and bloom them later and i have no 6* girl anyway. Or don't bother about it and up just 5* girls? The same about 5* like Anemone - will she just get a stat/skill boost or become 6* Anemone who has completely different skill and passives set?
Is there another way to get rarity up crystalls othere then play FG gacha and exchange D medals?
4) Are there a things, different from nutaku, that can make my progress faster, easier and cheaper? like exchange manyu and accsessoires parts? Any strategical tips& tricks? for example most usefull ways to spend currencies

My ID is 922767212 and i don't speak Japaneese unfortunately

Myrdin
03-29-2018, 05:41 AM
*Only if you like the girls featured, or need more 5*
The 30FG deals are becoming more popular lately, and usually they feature normal character pool. This is the first time no 6* 30 FG gacha has been used. So with that in mind I would suggest holding off from rolling on this gacha personally.

*Blooming is expensive - no joke. Even for us seasoned players, mass blooming and upgrading can still burn through our coffers and leave us penny less :D If you just started and don't have the abundance of resources to burn on blooming I would strongly suggest waiting until all your girls that you use / want to use / in your Team 1-4 are up to speed. That's due to the reason the sooner you get your teams outfitted with stabile power, the sooner you can start mass clearing maps both event, and non event ones.
As for Blooming itself - I would bloom one girl at a time, max her out and then proceed with the next one so you never end in situation where your Total Power takes a HUGE drop after you bloom all the girls and suddenly all of them are L1 and cant clear a single map.

*As far as Promotion goes, from what we have seen so far, the low tier girls get super powerful once Promoted to a 6*. Some even more than a original 6*.
As for who to Promote - unless its a girl you have and really like I would wait, since this being a new thing, there is still only few girls who have this option and unless you are a fan of those you might wanna hold onto your resources - The rainbow Shards take time to get and are fairly rare all things considered. Fear not however, the game is being regularly updated and new content keeps coming out at fast pace, so even if you wait for a while bunch of new girls will be ready for Promotion by the time you get enough shards.
As for the Anemone question - The girls will stay as what she is, only her stats and skills will be updated. A 5* Shrine maiden Anemone will be A 6* Shrine maiden Anomene. She wont become the Regular 6* Anemone with counter-crit.

*There is bunch of things Nutaku version does not have. I suggest playing the game for a week or two and you will notice immediately. JP devs throw so much free stuff your way you will never have need for anything, and should that happen for some miracle reason (like evolving 5 girls at the same time and having no more dragons) they are super easy to come by. Every standard item in DMM can be acquired from at least 2 sources in the exchange shop. Plus these guys do at least one, usually two promotions per month, where you always always get bunch of free stuff off all types.
As for crafting - there is much more to craft, I suggest to browse the Crafting menu in the game to see what you can make.

As for tips and trick - I`ll let the others have their word as well as of not to usurp to much space mofu :3
One major tip I have for you straight from the get go however > Save your AMPIES and when upgrading 6* do it straight from L1. This will massively reduce the price you pay when compared to upgrading a 6* after its been maxed to L80. Never recommended to do. This is even more true if you want to Promote a low tier girl to a 6* > Save those Ampies unti she becomes a 6* and then use them from Level 1 to upgrade her as much as possible, then finish up with Manyus > Evolve > upgrade to as high lvl as possible until it slows down to much > finis with Manyus > Bloom > repeat = bunch of Gold saved :)

Wutan
03-29-2018, 06:04 AM
Oh Myrdin already replied. Damn you :bgrin:

Anyway here is my little wall of text incoming. Maybe there is some usefull information too xd

1) For a new F2P i would highly recommend the 30 FG gacha without a 6*. 5* are the backbone of your army and 6* are really hard to get (0,5% chance, same as Nutaku). The 30 FG gachas have increased drop rates for 5* (12%). After you have acquired a full team of 5* (20 girls) you can start to roll the gachas including 6*.
2) I would say bloom your strongest or prefered five 5* ASAP because the Level of your Helper Squad (Lvl 80 Bloomed) scales with the Power of your Allies Helper Squad.
3) Rarity up is really good. Some Low Rarity girls are even better than some natural 6* (aconite for example, Waterlily etc.)
In general promoted low rarity girls are equally good compared to natural 6*. ST.Paulia for example becomes an awesome Crit Girl after promoting.
And Yes all Low Rarity Girls get an upgrade in Skill Activation, Stats and Skillsets.

Keep in mind: You need a lot of crystals to promote a low Rarity Girl.

Her is a link where Rarity Growth is explained:
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Rarity_Growth

4. Yeah there are a lot things that are different from Nutaku.
For example:
You don't need storage place for Manyus,Ampys etc. You have an extra storage box for those (unlimited Capacity).

My advice for a new player:

You will get Golden Keys (they are also exchangeable in the shop) from Event Missions etc. These keys allow you to summon a special stage (costs 0 stamina) providing you with a lot of Manyus (there is a stage for each Manyu type). I would suggest you gather 10 keys before you Summon the special manyu stages.

That's all for right now. I will send you a friend request later if you don't mind.

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 07:13 AM
Thanks for all your replies.

//2) I would say bloom your strongest or prefered five 5* ASAP because the Level of your Helper Squad (Lvl 80 Bloomed) scales with the Power of your Allies Helper Squad.
I was thinking that ally helper power scales with higher lvl among my girls, so i need only 1 lvl 70 (or 80 later) girl ASAP. Too bad that i'm wrong.
And about strongest - who do you recomend to evolve/bloom first - Waterlilly, Anemone miko, Saffron(xmas), Heather (my only blunt type 5* among 15 girls), Susaku grass, Poached egg plant, Cyclamenn (radiant). And about the candidate to rarity up ASAP - Cyclamenn vs St. Paulia (Cyclamenn is already evolved 10 lvl so i can rarity up her right now, st. Paulia - in a couple of days).And price is almost the same - 712 vs 743 crystals.
Btw, i like that 2* and 5* Cyclamenn can use each other skins.


//One major tip I have for you straight from the get go however > Save your AMPIES and when upgrading 6* do it straight from L1. This will massively reduce the price you pay when compared to upgrading a 6* after its been maxed to L80. Never recommended to do. This is even more true if you want to Promote a low tier girl to a 6* > Save those Ampies unti she becomes a 6* and then use them from Level 1 to upgrade her as much as possible, then finish up with Manyus > Evolve > upgrade to as high lvl as possible until it slows down to much > finis with Manyus > Bloom > repeat = bunch of Gold saved

As the girls should keep there ampies and affection after rarity up - maybe i should feed her my about 100 ampies right now? I mean after evolution and before rarity up, or wait untill rarity up is done?

twilightdream
03-29-2018, 07:17 AM
If you new, you want to stay away from rarity upgrade.
You want to use ★5 girl as your main force.
Also you want to pickup some strong event girls from the perma re-event tap to help in your squad.

For evol and bloom and can wait for the special map.
The map will drop all kind of thing you need in evolution system with only 60 stamina to play it.
This special map will be online in every several months.

I can't tell thing on DMM go faster than Nutaku or not, but if you're freebie here is the place.
You can receive lots of gift every month with normal login campaign and special login campaign.
But one thing that DMM never give you for free is rainbow dreesbloom.

I think that's all for now.

Myrdin
03-29-2018, 07:27 AM
Thanks for all your replies.

//2) I was thinking that ally helper power scales with higher lvl among my girls, so i need only 1 lvl 70 (or 80 later) girl ASAP. Too bad that i'm wrong.
And about strongest - who do you recomend to evolve/bloom first - Waterlilly, Anemone miko, Saffron(xmas), Heather (my only blunt type 5* among 15 girls), Susaku grass, Poached egg plant, Cyclamenn (radiant). And about the candidate to rarity up ASAP - Cyclamenn vs St. Paulia (Cyclamenn is already evolved 10 lvl so i can rarity up her right now, st. Paulia - in a couple of days).And price is almost the same - 712 vs 743 crystals.
Btw, i like that 2* and 5* Cyclamenn can use each other skins.


As the girls should keep there ampies and affection after rarity up - maybe i should feed her my about 100 ampies right now? I mean after evolution and before rarity up, or wait untill rarity up is done?

Shrine Maiden Anemone is a solid choice I would say. I have been using her for quite a long time and she has been great asset for the team. She is a bit slower so its good idea to put her together with slightly faster girls to make up for it.

No don't use them now. If you decide on the girl you want to use them on, do it AFTER you Promote her (rarity up. ) to a 6*. As far as I know, once she is promoted she will be reset to L1 again, and since her stats, skills and active will also change you might end up loosing those stats from Ampies, and that would be a horrible horrible waste and a massive setback. Definitely save tem until she becomes a 6* and only use them after to level her up and beef up the new, updated stats.

twilight: Well Nutaku doesn't give out a FREE dressbloom either :D Only in Daily deals
The FGems > Dressbloom thing has not been done for a very long time now, not sure if it ever will again, though I do hope so.

Would be nice to get a 5000 DMM deal of - Choose your Waifu, +1 Rainbow Dressbloom.
I would buy that one ASAP :D

Wutan
03-29-2018, 07:32 AM
Thanks for all your replies.

I was thinking that ally helper power scales with higher lvl among my girls, so i need only 1 lvl 70 (or 80 later) girl ASAP. Too bad that i'm wrong.
And about strongest - who do you recomend to evolve/bloom first - Waterlilly, Anemone miko, Saffron(xmas), Heather (my only blunt type 5* among 15 girls), Susaku grass, Poached egg plant, Cyclamenn (radiant). And about the candidate to rarity up ASAP - Cyclamenn vs St. Paulia (Cyclamenn is already evolved 10 lvl so i can rarity up her right now, st. Paulia - in a couple of days).And price is almost the same - 712 vs 743 crystals.
Btw, i like that 2* and 5* Cyclamenn can use each other skins.


You are right. You only need one Lvl 80 Bloomed Girl for the Scaling. But it's beneficial to have 5 Bloomed Girls because High Lvl players with strong Rainbow Squads are more likely to toss you Friend Requests. On DMM it might not be an issue though. DMM Players are more likely to accept New Players on there Friendlist compared to Nutaku Players (Forumers are an exception).

I would bloom girls who share a theme (Dodge, Debuff, Counter etc.) first for synergy reasons.

For example Miko Anemone and Waterlily both share the Dodge theme. If you want a 5* Dodge Squad it isn't a bad idea to bloom them first.

It depends what your plans are though. Since i don't know what your prefered playstyle is, it is hard to recommend specific girls.

Ultimately it comes down to: What teams you wanna build and if you consider a girl a waifu :)

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 07:39 AM
If you new, you want to stay away from rarity upgrade.
You want to use ★5 girl as your main force.
Also you want to pickup some strong event girls from the perma re-event tap to help in your squad.

For evol and bloom and can wait for the special map.
The map will drop all kind of thing you need in evolution system with only 60 stamina to play it.
This special map will be online in every several months.


I think that's all for now.

About strong permanent event girls - can't find any as good as gacha one (or at least with good enough skillset), mostly need blunt one now because i have only Heather. I was thinking about Canna - she is not that bad but not good too, so need advice about them.

Wutan
03-29-2018, 07:50 AM
Best Event Girls in terms of raw stats are Lavender and Edelweiss.
Dipladenia is also not a bad choice because she has an unique Ability.

You won't find an Event Girl that is equally good compared to a Gacha Girl though. Not on Nutaku or DMM.
Generally Event Girls are tuned down Gacha Girls but with the access to easy Skill and Equipment Slots.

Don't know about any other good Event Girls. Maybe the others know a few hidden gems?

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 08:02 AM
I would bloom girls who share a theme (Dodge, Debuff, Counter etc.) first for synergy reasons.

For example Miko Anemone and Waterlily both share the Dodge theme. If you want a 5* Dodge Squad it isn't a bad idea to bloom them first.

It depends what your plans are though. Since i don't know what your prefered playstyle is, it is hard to recommend specific girls.

Ultimately it comes down to: What teams you wanna build and if you consider a girl a waifu :)

At nutaku the only theme group that i could collect besides just put 5 higher str ones in a group is +100% skill chance (actualy +80 in my case) - i had only 1 evasion, 2 counter and 2 attck down girl, but on DMM i already have 3 evasion ones - Anemone, Susaku grass and Waterlilly so i'll try to do something with them.
And about waifu - it's Heather with unevolved skin both on Nutaku and DMM. BTW, i hadn't found how to set girl as assistant on dmm - they switch randomly.

twilightdream
03-29-2018, 08:04 AM
Myrdin ; What? Nutaku won't do free rainbow dreassbloom exchange anymore?
oh c'monnnn...

Here is some strong girls for raw stats.
https://i.imgur.com/c6rMGzv.jpg
In term of skill set I don't know you have to specific it.
Also Canna is one of the most weak girl in FKG, you don't want to have her except she's yo waifu.

Wutan
03-29-2018, 08:16 AM
At nutaku the only theme group that i could collect besides just put 5 higher str ones in a group is +100% skill chance (actualy +80 in my case) - i had only 1 evasion, 2 counter and 2 attck down girl, but on DMM i already have 3 evasion ones - Anemone, Susaku grass and Waterlilly so i'll try to do something with them.
And about waifu - it's Heather with unevolved skin both on Nutaku and DMM. BTW, i hadn't found how to set girl as assistant on dmm - they switch randomly.

Heather is a good choice. I like that girl too;D

If i were you i would build a team around her which exploits weakness damage.

About making a girl your assistant:

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First click on the red button and then confirm your choice with the blue button in the right corner below.

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 08:17 AM
Best Event Girls in terms of raw stats are Lavender and Edelweiss.
Dipladenia is also not a bad choice because she has an unique Ability.

You won't find an Event Girl that is equally good compared to a Gacha Girl though. Not on Nutaku or DMM.
Generally Event Girls are tuned down Gacha Girls but with the access to easy Skill and Equipment Slots.

Don't know about any other good Event Girls. Maybe the others know a few hidden gems?
I looked at Lavender and Edelweiss and they both have terrible abilities set:
Lavender: Heals 3x more HP from Healing Panels.;
Increases Attack for 2 party members, oneself included, by 10%.
Increases Solar Drive's effectiveness by 20%.

Edelweiss: Party members Heal 10% HP when encountering a Nest Panel.
Increases Attack by 5% when encountering a nest panel. (Up to 15%).
Adds 50 to the party's Speed.

So I don't think that they're any good.
Dipladenia - you mean immune to speed altering? it may be usefull sometimes when there are a lot of webs on mission, so i shall think about getting her after I level up all my pierce girls.

Wutan
03-29-2018, 08:31 AM
Yeah i know they are terrible skillwise.

Me personally i would only use them for Whaleship missions because they boost your Whaleship TP considerably well.

Dipladenia could be usefull for a few maps indeed.

I can't help you much in the Event Girl sector. I don't use them much. I only collect them and lvl the Event Girls which i personally like in terms of looks,voice etc.

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 08:45 AM
Here is some strong girls for raw stats.
In term of skill set I don't know you have to specific it.
Also Canna is one of the most weak girl in FKG, you don't want to have her except she's yo waifu.

Mountain Lilly seems to be strong enough, thanks. Maybe i should do her quest, but later - i have too much pierce girls for now to level up. And for Canna - she has not so good stats, but not so bad abilities and not as ugly as for example Fatcia, Sandersonia or Calla and is blunt (i have only 1 blunt from 17 5* girls now) so i couldn't find better option among permanent event girls (Edelweiss has better stats but terrible abilities).

About changing assistant - i pressed this button, it becomes gray, no confirmation window, message "assistant leader" near her model revealed, but nothing changed - girls at main screen and search still random.

Wutan
03-29-2018, 08:56 AM
Go to the Mainscreen and click on the icon in the bottom left Corner:

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uncheck this option:

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Here is a link which explains all options:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Options

twilightdream
03-29-2018, 09:00 AM
In term of passive you can replace Canna with Himeyuri and Oshiroibana.
You don't need to stick on type when you building your team.
But it's your team, so your choice.

Also you want to do like this in option menu to fix your assitant problem.
https://i.imgur.com/GDXRQzg.jpg

Unregistered
03-29-2018, 09:17 AM
In term of passive you can replace Canna with Himeyuri and Oshiroibana.
You don't need to stick on type when you building your team.
But it's your team, so your choice.

Also you want to do like this in option menu to fix your assitant problem.

Thanks to everybody, problem with assistant solved. I know about sticking girl's type, but i needed someone else blunt to spent blue manyus after Heather will be lvl 70, so i began to do this permanent event.

twilightdream
03-29-2018, 09:44 AM
Your storage is unlimited.
You can stock everything in there as much as you want.

maotd
03-29-2018, 10:00 AM
For me, the best event girl over all the others is clearly Mountain Lily. Her +20% ATK turn one is unique and better than any gacha gold similar ability and once she is bloomed she is a strong counter girl, better than most of gacha counter girls without equipslot unlocked).
Behind her, Echeveria is really good too for similar reasons but her permanant reissue will happen in a looong time so, she can't be an option.

And then, girls like Hypericum, Mirabilis or Geranium are good choice to start and can be helpful girls for a long time.

Volarmis
03-30-2018, 10:30 AM
It seems most of what needed to be said was already mentioned. :p

From my side I would recommend going for the 30 FG gacha as a F2P player myself, at least as a start.
Once you get an army of 5*, I'd switch to the 50 FG ones.
Don't be too worried about 6* at the start, I've got my first one at 1+ year of playing.

Blooming and promotion should be left for when you're actually feeling wealthy enough to tackle it.
Promotion needs a lot of currency that you don't get quite often, so I'd stick with your favorite girl for this one.
As for blooming, some girls get quite a boost with their third ability, so you might want to concentrate on those, though in the end you don't lose much by just picking your favorite.

I don't know how far Nutaku has gotten with their updates, but I have a "good practice" concerning equipment seeds.
I amass them until an event with additional upgrade exp appears - then I use them all at once.
Last time I checked you can't get forge spirits out of the equipment gacha in Nutaku. Here you can.
I don't use any equipment as fuel for leveling other equipment pieces - in DMM you get enough forge spirits for all your leveling needs.
All the leftover equipment you won't be using can be reforged into bond crystals, which in turn can be used to buy commander medals, which then can be used to buy 5*+ gacha tickets.
Using those, you start gathering rainbow medals. 300 medals and you get a rainbow unit of your choice.
I would avoid using bond crystals/commander medals for anything else, unless you have a surplus of the first - you can get some 5* girls (not in the gacha, though weak) to fill up the team or anything else you need from that specific store.
The mentioned 5* girls can be fed equipment and skill blooms you get by using the special plant pots in your garden (the golden ones).

I'll add you as an ally in a moment.

Unregistered
03-31-2018, 02:28 AM
It seems most of what needed to be said was already mentioned. :p

From my side I would recommend going for the 30 FG gacha as a F2P player myself, at least as a start.
Once you get an army of 5*, I'd switch to the 50 FG ones.
Don't be too worried about 6* at the start, I've got my first one at 1+ year of playing.

Blooming and promotion should be left for when you're actually feeling wealthy enough to tackle it.
Promotion needs a lot of currency that you don't get quite often, so I'd stick with your favorite girl for this one.
As for blooming, some girls get quite a boost with their third ability, so you might want to concentrate on those, though in the end you don't lose much by just picking your favorite.

I don't know how far Nutaku has gotten with their updates, but I have a "good practice" concerning equipment seeds.
I amass them until an event with additional upgrade exp appears - then I use them all at once.
Last time I checked you can't get forge spirits out of the equipment gacha in Nutaku. Here you can.
I don't use any equipment as fuel for leveling other equipment pieces - in DMM you get enough forge spirits for all your leveling needs.
All the leftover equipment you won't be using can be reforged into bond crystals, which in turn can be used to buy commander medals, which then can be used to buy 5*+ gacha tickets.
Using those, you start gathering rainbow medals. 300 medals and you get a rainbow unit of your choice.
I would avoid using bond crystals/commander medals for anything else, unless you have a surplus of the first - you can get some 5* girls (not in the gacha, though weak) to fill up the team or anything else you need from that specific store.
The mentioned 5* girls can be fed equipment and skill blooms you get by using the special plant pots in your garden (the golden ones).

I'll add you as an ally in a moment.

Thank you and other people, who gave me a lot of usefull advices and added me as friend. So now i have some compilation about the account progress in dmm (maybe it shall be usefull to someone else).

1) about shop - life crystals - spend to 6* skills somedays. If i shall rarity up 5* , their skill will be redused to 1 anyway so i will need 2k LC for each one. I don't know if 30rarity up crystals discount worth 250 LC spent to 5* skillbloom, maybe no. I dislike ampies per 100 LC, bloom petals - i don't know what is better - LC vs 100k coins (no 100k option on nutaku unfortunately)
bond crystals - girls per 18k are too expencive to me so only options are cheap D medals and cheap 2-nd aff gifts, maybe expencive D medals if i have extra ones.
rainbow medals.... 100 d medals->5* guaranteed ticket-> repeat 300 times... it will take years to have a single 6*, so i'm gonna just forget about it. I guess that more productive way is play 30 FG gacha, add some d medals to have enough crystals, upgrade someone realy good, like Waterlilly or Anemone miko to 6*, max her skill for 2k LC, PROFIT.
d medals - guaranted 5* tickets with low chance for 6*, rarity up crystals, ampies
sun medals - before i could have at least 600k whale group only, option is bloom birds (on dmm i have 6k medals from the begining instead of nutaku, where i just started whale missions with 520k team, so i'm only planning to bloom first girl there - Primrose ), maybe some ampies/dragons if i will realy miss them. Then second aff heart (no need to buy them with LC). Accesoires are expencive so it's not for the beginners.
coins (only DMM) - 150k per 4* girl is useless, bloom petal per 100k is an option
2) exchange - almost non-existing on nutaku: exchange 3x5 lvl manyus to 20 lvl... how i miss it on nutaku when i'm forced to sell 5 lvl yellow/blue manyus from current event because the upgrade price at 30+lvl becomes too painfull, maybe copper forge spirits to silver/gold to save money.
accessoires seeds - play 100x gacha, keep +10 medium ones, exchange rest to bond crystals. What is item with anvil icon, exchangable with forge spirits?
3) FG - character/accessoires capacity if needed, spend rest to 30 fg gacha. Maybe after about 30-40 5* girls switch to 50 FG ones, cross fingers and pray for 6*.

About girls progression:
Level up at least 1 5* girl to lvl 70 evolved ASAP (80 bloomed later) - your helper squad max lvl is your girl max lvl.
Next goal - level up 20 5* girls (maybe with couple 4* if needed) to lvl 60, then evolve some of them untill you will have full group of 20 evolved 70 girls, during this process bloom 1 to lvl 80.
After that you may think about theme parties - like dodge/attack down/skill chance/crit and begin to bloom others.
First bloomed girl in my case will be Anemone miko - skill chance up, attack up, evasion seems to be fantastic abilities set.
Permanent event girls - Mountain Lilly is good, Edelweiss and Lavender both have good stats but terrible abilities. BTW, Edelweiss missions are very, very easy, even top ones, so every 1 week old account easy can have her. Geranium with skill up ability seems to be ok too. But in general they're much weaker then gacha 5* girls.
I found another interesting permanent event girl - Monotropastrum. Attack up, dodge, crit up - seems nice even unbloomed (i think that permanent event girls are too weak for bloom), but again she is pierce type like Mountain Lilly.

And for lvl up exp event - am i right that it is right now and will be finished 4.2.18 so i must upgrade everyone theese days?
About flower pots at my garden - is there any difference between different flower pots - 150k ones are for skillblooms for girls, buyable with bound stones , but what about others? BTW, there are 5 150k pots and 4 girls, what is 5-th for?
Wutan said that i must keep at least 10 keys from manyu mission. Is there some special missions for multiple keys? i have 120 of them and i don't know how.

In general, DMM is much more newbie friendly then nutaku - besides japaneese language.

maotd
03-31-2018, 04:31 AM
About LC: buy only Gold and Rainbow skill bloom, the few Dress Bloom (becareful, they are limited and never refilled) and the 5*6* ticket (never refilled too). All the other stuff don't worth theses LC at all. Silver skillbloom could be useful to reach skill lvl5 on a 4* you REALLY want for Rainbow promotion.

About Bond Crystal and D-medals: Don't buy the girls with D-medals. D-medals are too rare. Use them for tickets or Rainbow shards if you really need them. Use Bond Crystal to buy theses girls, if you want them. You can get a lot of Bond Crystal through many ways (equipement reforging, selling/using as upgrade material 3* to 6* girls, daily quests, on certains events and through some campaigns).

Volarmis
03-31-2018, 04:44 AM
Ok, for me the situation with the shop looks like this:

1) life crystals - I don't specifically farm life crystals, but you do get quite a few of them out of the event maps.
Each time the items get restocked I try to buy out only the rainbow and gold skillblooms and the cheaper second affection-unlocking jewels (the more expensive ones too, if I have a surplus of stones).
There's also a gacha ticket to be bought from what I can see, though that doesn't restock and I've already used it.
Blooming materials can be farmed so I never buy them in the exchange store.
Occasionally, there are also limited-time special maps that give you a lot of those, so I rather keep my currency.

2) bond crystals - I use them only to buy commander medals. Every time I got a surpluss I've bought one of the units in this store - I have them all now.
During one event (can't remember which) we had a good way of getting bond crystals, so it was just that much easier.
I don't feel the need to buy anything else from here, but since you gain more bond crystals than you can spend on the medals, I'll probably try buying something else next time.

3) commander medals - Since they're not farmable I use them only to get the gacha tickets.

4) rainbow medals - The whole system to get your guaranteed rainbow is not setup to be something farmable, it's more of a guaranteeed 6* of your choice
for actively playing the game, even if you have lousy luck in the gacha, which I think is a good idea.
Don't specially mind it, just keep collecting and one day you'll have enough (I have about 284 right now and I haven't used them before)
By the way, you don't need to repeat it 300 times - you get 20 (IIRC) rainbow medals for each commander medals' gacha ticket.
Plus, it's not like the commander medals' ticket is the only source of rainbow medals -
for each duplicate gold girl you pull you get 2 medals, for each duplicate rainbow you get 100.
Additionally, sometimes a few are given out during events or login campaignes.

5) sun medals - No opinion on this one, as I'm not actively doing the whaleship missions.
Though I will probably only buy the equipment pieces in this store section.

6) medals of honor - Also no opinion here, as I'm not strong enough for all unique missions yet and because of that, I've not farmed them.

7) gold - The exchange rate is quite bad, so I don't usually buy anything from here.

Exchange - I only use the equipment -> bond crystals one, occasionally low-rarity equipment seeds -> mid-rarity equipment seeds.
All manyuus are usuable for me, since I level everyone, even the low rarity units.
Right now I have more high-level manyuus than the low-level ones.

Equipment seeds - Once you get around to doing the reissued events, you'll probably start using the event equipment,
so I'd only collect the 10+ rings (mid or high rarity) and burn the rest to bond crystals.
Since I exchange low-rarity seeds for the mid ones, I don't really bother with low-rarity equipment.

FGs - You've got a good idea, I also use it for the gacha as a priority and to expand the inventory once I really need it.
Currently I'm waiting for another full (6* included) gacha for 30 FGs, which we had some time ago to appear again, though that might take quite a while.

About the progression you've mentioned - doesn't sound like a bad plan, though to be fair just adjust it to any current needs.
As an additional good event girl I recommend Hypericum, as she's a counter girl with high skill activation (even not boosted) and fully leveled hits quite hard.
Dipladenia will also be useful, as she has the rare "ignore speed modifying panels" ability, which really helps 3-medalling quite a few maps.
All in all - counter, evade, skill activation and a few specific ones (for example damage from small pests 50%) are good abilities to have.
One more thing - if you're strong enough try prioritizing the time-limited reissue once all of its stages appear - the earlier you get the girl/equipment (and FGs from the map) the better.

The level-up exp event gets you 10% more exp during character and equipment upgrade and a higher chance of great success (the gold text during upgrade).
I'd use it as far as your resources (manyuu/gold) allows, though not till you have 0.

The garden's flower pots that are not golden only have a different design as far as I know and no functional differences.
The golden pots give you skill blooms for the exchange shop girls plus Azalea, a special event girl from a few events back - you'll need to wait for her reissue.

DMM gives you a lot more freebies - right now I'm sitting on 381 FGs waiting for my chance. :p

Wutan
03-31-2018, 04:53 AM
About Keys and how to select the stages:

1. First click on the marked icon:

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2. On the second screen you can select the Manyu Type you want.

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3. On the third screen you can select how many keys you want to spend. The more keys you spend (max is 10) the more Manyus you will get.
If you are lucky you will get 20 Lvl.100 Manyus and 30 Lvl.20 Manyus. In my case right here i have only got 10 Lvl. 100 Manyus.
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Unregistered2
03-31-2018, 06:28 AM
Thank you and other people, who gave me a lot of usefull advices and added me as friend. So now i have some compilation about the account progress in dmm (maybe it shall be usefull to someone else).

1) about shop - life crystals - spend to 6* skills somedays. If i shall rarity up 5* , their skill will be redused to 1 anyway so i will need 2k LC for each one. I don't know if 30rarity up crystals discount worth 250 LC spent to 5* skillbloom, maybe no. I dislike ampies per 100 LC, bloom petals - i don't know what is better - LC vs 100k coins (no 100k option on nutaku unfortunately)
bond crystals - girls per 18k are too expencive to me so only options are cheap D medals and cheap 2-nd aff gifts, maybe expencive D medals if i have extra ones.
rainbow medals.... 100 d medals->5* guaranteed ticket-> repeat 300 times... it will take years to have a single 6*, so i'm gonna just forget about it. I guess that more productive way is play 30 FG gacha, add some d medals to have enough crystals, upgrade someone realy good, like Waterlilly or Anemone miko to 6*, max her skill for 2k LC, PROFIT.
d medals - guaranted 5* tickets with low chance for 6*, rarity up crystals, ampies
sun medals - before i could have at least 600k whale group only, option is bloom birds (on dmm i have 6k medals from the begining instead of nutaku, where i just started whale missions with 520k team, so i'm only planning to bloom first girl there - Primrose ), maybe some ampies/dragons if i will realy miss them. Then second aff heart (no need to buy them with LC). Accesoires are expencive so it's not for the beginners.
coins (only DMM) - 150k per 4* girl is useless, bloom petal per 100k is an option
2) exchange - almost non-existing on nutaku: exchange 3x5 lvl manyus to 20 lvl... how i miss it on nutaku when i'm forced to sell 5 lvl yellow/blue manyus from current event because the upgrade price at 30+lvl becomes too painfull, maybe copper forge spirits to silver/gold to save money.
accessoires seeds - play 100x gacha, keep +10 medium ones, exchange rest to bond crystals. What is item with anvil icon, exchangable with forge spirits?
3) FG - character/accessoires capacity if needed, spend rest to 30 fg gacha. Maybe after about 30-40 5* girls switch to 50 FG ones, cross fingers and pray for 6*.

About girls progression:
Level up at least 1 5* girl to lvl 70 evolved ASAP (80 bloomed later) - your helper squad max lvl is your girl max lvl.
Next goal - level up 20 5* girls (maybe with couple 4* if needed) to lvl 60, then evolve some of them untill you will have full group of 20 evolved 70 girls, during this process bloom 1 to lvl 80.
After that you may think about theme parties - like dodge/attack down/skill chance/crit and begin to bloom others.
First bloomed girl in my case will be Anemone miko - skill chance up, attack up, evasion seems to be fantastic abilities set.
Permanent event girls - Mountain Lilly is good, Edelweiss and Lavender both have good stats but terrible abilities. BTW, Edelweiss missions are very, very easy, even top ones, so every 1 week old account easy can have her. Geranium with skill up ability seems to be ok too. But in general they're much weaker then gacha 5* girls.
I found another interesting permanent event girl - Monotropastrum. Attack up, dodge, crit up - seems nice even unbloomed (i think that permanent event girls are too weak for bloom), but again she is pierce type like Mountain Lilly.

And for lvl up exp event - am i right that it is right now and will be finished 4.2.18 so i must upgrade everyone theese days?
About flower pots at my garden - is there any difference between different flower pots - 150k ones are for skillblooms for girls, buyable with bound stones , but what about others? BTW, there are 5 150k pots and 4 girls, what is 5-th for?
Wutan said that i must keep at least 10 keys from manyu mission. Is there some special missions for multiple keys? i have 120 of them and i don't know how.

In general, DMM is much more newbie friendly then nutaku - besides japaneese language.

life crystals: You won't be rarity-upping many of your 5*s, use golden skillblooms for useful golds instead of the discount. Ampies aren't worth it unless you're sitting on something like 10k LC after buying the recently added ticket and dressblooms. For petals, the first choice should be getting what you can from quests for completing lower level unique missions. 75 LC and 100k gold will both be manageable prices later on. LC also become much more plentiful when you can do the Ultimate missions which Nutaku refuses to add for no apparent reason.

bond crystals: With raid bosses giving 800+ seeds apiece, you should be able to forge enough crystals for all the D medals, cheap gifts and eventually save enough for the characters.

rainbow medals: I got 300 as a free player. Just keep buying those D tickets and rolling gacha.

d medals: If you're not a whale, you'll be choosing either tickets or rainbow crystals. You won't have enough for both, much less ampies.

sun medals: Before buying birds, again, see if you can get what you need from unique missions' quests.

gold: I had no issue with buying some 4*s for 150k before, but things might be different nowadays.

forge spirits: The anvil icon one is for character specific equipment. You can convert other types to that because the character stuff can be leveled to 50, upgraded, and leveled to 50 again. That'd be too much of a drain on earring forge spirits if they were still the only choice.

FG: Using the 30fg gacha until you have 30-40 5*s seems excessive. It'd probably be best to stop once you have four of one or both featured girls. There'll presumably be another 30fg/5* max gacha every other week as they add new rarity promotions for old 5*s.

other permanent events: Star Lily has high stats for an event girl, Guts and benefits more than most event girls from blooming with her +37% atk for two. Robinia is like Edelweiss with less atk, more def. Adonis is another one that ignores webs/whirlwinds. Rain Lily and Belladonna are there if you just need more atk debuff.

The bonus exp ends with the coming update but it's a small bonus and happens semi-regularly. No need to stress.

The fifth golden pot is for Azalea (Newcomer), obtainable from one of the Unique missions.

Using 10 manyu keys at once is a time saver. Nothing more, nothing less.

Volarmis
03-31-2018, 07:18 AM
Azalea (Newcomer), obtainable from one of the Unique missions.

I actually did not know that, but now that I look at the mission, it's true.

Unregistered
04-03-2018, 06:13 AM
sun medals: Before buying birds, again, see if you can get what you need from unique missions' quests.

gold: I had no issue with buying some 4*s for 150k before, but things might be different nowadays.

other permanent events: Star Lily has high stats for an event girl, Guts and benefits more than most event girls from blooming with her +37% atk for two. Robinia is like Edelweiss with less atk, more def. Adonis is another one that ignores webs/whirlwinds. Rain Lily and Belladonna are there if you just need more atk debuff.


I can't understand how it can be no issue with gold - i had 1.1 mil, upgraded couple girls to 70 evolved, couple more to 60 and had almost nothing.
With all theese keys i have much more manyus than on Nutaku so i need more gold too.
Are there a ways to farm a tonns of gold besides saturday mission or 80 stamina mission (8x10 stam event mission is almost the same gold amount but with extra bonus missions and event currency)? Or don't bother with it and farm something else?

Event bonus missions with 400/500k and no helper allowed made me crazy. Are they possible to complete withount full set of 6* 80lvl girls? My 81k main group did almost nothing there.

Antoher question - now i have a selectable 5* ticket from gift with about 1/2 girls aviable and don't know who to pick.
I already have Waterlilly, Toadlilly, Rose, Suzuki grass, Nasturcium, Snapdragon(about her and Green Bristlegrass - is counter+ evasion realy good? I think that it's countersynergic). As waifu i was thinking about German Iris, but solar drive is all or nothing (in my case - definitely nothing), but i think that as newbie i must choose strongest one. I'm thinking about evasion party, but I already will have 5 evasion girls (after 2 of them will be bloomed), so evasion is not a must have. Any ideas?

Can different versions of one girl be in one group(like Anemone +Anemone miko or 2* Cyclamenn +5* Cyclamenn)?

Myrdin
04-03-2018, 06:32 AM
Gold will be an issue until you get a solid team of high lvl girls going, where you don't need to upgrade the main squad anymore.
When times are tough on gold, just reduce your costs - for example if you upgrade a girl with 10 manyus, upgrade her only with 1, etc.

We all struggled with gold here and there, the more girls you evolve/bloom and upgrade the worse it will be. I remember very well burning million upon million of gold coins when I mass evolved/bloomed girls. Heck I had to stop evolving/blooming for almost a month, doing just small upgrades and keep playing maps. When the 2x gold bonus came, I ran the Mori Mori 100 stamina gold map over and over again. I burst upon few dozens of Stamina potions and just kept running that one.
Never forced it to much just tried to get a million or so to last me for a while, but I distinctily remember someone, maotd or volarmis or someone who went full ham mode and earned several milions, lasting him for quite a while.

So the simple answer is > Prioritize, tighter your belt and keep saving up for the priority girls.

As for the special missions, well yeah they are not supposed to be super easy, since you get a D-medal for it. Still a full 4 teams of bloomed 5* should be good enough.

As for the ticket - if you have a setup in mind go with a girl that compliments it, otherwise go for who you like the looks and skill off.
And yes - you can have both in the same team. Heck this game allows you to build a team of the same one girl. I remember someone doing something like that with ...Red Ginger ? not sure, but I remember seeing a pick of a team made out of the same 6*. The other teams were the usual mix but one was made of singular girl. So absolutely its possible :D

twilightdream
04-03-2018, 06:39 AM
You'll never have issue with gold on DMM.
Here we have gold up campaign, wait for it come and run the Morimori map on Saturday like you never run it before, you will get nice amount of gold from it.
If gold up campaign is 2.0x I think you should get around 60k / round maximum, didn't run it for 6 month not remember.

In the past you can pick helper for that special mission, I think you have to wait a bit to tackle it.