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Slashley

02-16-2019, 09:06 AM

Hello,

Thanks a lot for the guide!!
I managed to finally reroll an account with SSR Hraesvelgr, SSR Behemoth, SSR Isis, and SSR Azazel. Is this a good account to start with? I'm not sure if ill be spending money. They're all wind I feel like I got really lucky! Also how to change my email?While Behemoth doesn't matter much, finding a 100% with two SSRs of the same element is insane. Especially since Isis is quite alright and Azazel will be amazing later (once her Awakening comes around).

You can change your Email from the Arrow at the top of Nutaku site -> Edit Profile -> Change Email.

Unregistered

02-16-2019, 09:14 AM

AutoCrimson

02-16-2019, 09:25 AM

idk whats is "main one", but as long that email is not used by taco profile, you can change it
i.e. you can use third fictional email to swap your two, if you want

Unregistered

02-16-2019, 09:51 AM

While Behemoth doesn't matter much, finding a 100% with two SSRs of the same element is insane. Especially since Isis is quite alright and Azazel will be amazing later (once her Awakening comes around).

You can change your Email from the Arrow at the top of Nutaku site -> Edit Profile -> Change Email.

YES! Thank you, im glad I wasnt hype for nothing. It was only my 15th reroll or so, and I hadn't even gotten a single pull with the yellow flash, these ones didnt have it either just hte ball changed from gold to rainbow. Im pretty hyped for this game even though I dont even yet know how to play fully haha lol.

I understand it's the second anni right now. Is there any big events or quests I should be taking advantage of?

AutoCrimson

02-16-2019, 10:08 AM

the encyclopedia from ... will give you a quick peek over upcoming events

Slashley

02-16-2019, 11:35 AM

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I understand it's the second anni right now. Is there any big events or quests I should be taking advantage of?There's a second anniversary recap thread up. I think the most important thing is the free 10x roll and daily free 1x roll. You might've missed it by a few days though, not sure.

ChosenSperm

02-16-2019, 12:05 PM

There's a second anniversary recap thread up. I think the most important thing is the free 10x roll and daily free 1x roll. You might've missed it by a few days though, not sure.

Ok, thanks a lot for the help! Im sorry to keep asking so many questions, but im playing right now and my inventory is full all the time. What should i be getting rid off, and how? Should I sell R weapons or use them to enhance others?

AutoCrimson

02-17-2019, 12:46 AM

general rule, R weapons for enhance, R enhance fodder auto-sell.
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its not fully complete, but still can be useful

Unregistered

02-17-2019, 03:34 AM

general rule, R weapons for enhance, R enhance fodder auto-sell.
12175

its not fully complete, but still can be useful

For new player they gonna need R enhance fodder

Slashley

02-17-2019, 07:18 AM

Ok, thanks a lot for the help! Im sorry to keep asking so many questions, but im playing right now and my inventory is full all the time. What should i be getting rid off, and how? Should I sell R weapons or use them to enhance others?Buy more inventory space with Jewels. I'd say go up to at least 200 Weapons, you can do with less Eidolons. It's from under Shop.

Kviksos

02-20-2019, 08:39 AM

Just some motivation screen :squint:

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Kitty

02-20-2019, 08:46 AM

Just some motivation screen :squint:

12183

uwauwa super nice. I got one with rudra/mana before but no fucking clue where it is lmao.

Kitty

02-25-2019, 10:32 AM

some of my rerolls i'll be planning to give away soon... :smirk:

1. [Mid Summer] Sol, Daji

2. Cu Chulainn, Titania, Hades, Saraswati

3. Thor, Poseidon, Cu Chulainn, Ryu-Oh, Sun Quan [Renfa]

4. Svarog, Arianhrod, Gale Kaiser Dragoon

5. Nike [Unleashed], Arianhrod, Susanoo, Asherah, Fenrir

6. [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Metatron, Jupiter

7. Titania, Uriel, Nike [Unleashed], Huanglong

8. Nike [Unleashed], Cu Chulainn, Michael, Cybele [Unleashed] x2, Baal [Unleashed]

9. Thanatos, Evil Kaiser Dragoon

10. Hades, Osiris, Shamash, Sleipnir

11. Poseidon, Michael, Acala, Huanglong

12. Susanoo, Raiko, Nike [Unleashed], Enma, Fenrir

13. Hades, Chernobog, Frey, Evil Kaiser Dragoon

14. Hraesvelgr, Susanoo, Azathoth

15. [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Osiris, Thunderbird

16. Michael, Marduk, Jupiter, Hecatonchires x2

17. Acala, Amon [Unleashed], Michael, Susanoo, Eros, Fenrir, Ouroboros

18. [Mid Summer] Sol, Asherah, Titania, Daji

19. [Lovely Feather] Aphrodite, Samael

20. Belial, Osiris, Nova Kaiser Dragoon, Girimikhala

21. Uriel, Mars, Susanoo

22. Satan, Cybele [Unleashed], [Moonlight Profusion] Artemis

23. Cthulhu, Ryu-Oh, Sun Quan [Renfa]

24. Hades, Satan, Cu Chulainn

25. Belial, Ryu-Oh, Titania, Nephthys

26. Odin, Cybele [Unleashed], Frey, Ea, Ifrit

27. [Emporer of Hell] Beelzebub, Enma, Ryu-Oh, Fenrir, Pulse Kaiser Dragoon

28. Sol, Shamash, Asherah, Athena

29. Titania, Isis, Gale Kaiser Dragoon

30. Belial, Ares, Ra

31. Svarog, Enma, Samael, Azathoth, God Kaiser Dragoon

32. Pluto, Susanoo, Athena, Fafnir

33. Rudra, Huanglong

34. Raiko x2, Raphael, Michael, Thunderbird

ACMUnleashed

02-27-2019, 11:17 PM

Josmioh93

03-13-2019, 06:58 PM

Hello people, so i´ve returned to play KHP... but i don´t remember my password. So i want to reroll just like old times... I want to know which Himes are meta besides the 100% eidolons. :grin:

AutoCrimson

03-13-2019, 11:49 PM

reroll for Mika+fluffy, or Tish+fluffy, or Mika/Tish/Fluffy.
if you can get one of first two, ur luck is excellent. if u can get last, you are hidden taco employa

Josmioh93

03-14-2019, 05:18 AM

reroll for Mika+fluffy, or Tish+fluffy, or Mika/Tish/Fluffy.
if you can get one of first two, ur luck is excellent. if u can get last, you are hidden taco employa

Do you mean Michael, Thistrya and the last one who is? :bgrin:

AutoCrimson

03-14-2019, 06:26 AM

Managarm obviously.

Josmioh93

03-14-2019, 07:43 AM

Managarm obviously.

I´ve just got a Anubis account with 4 SR Dark KH... the odds right now are terrible... well i keep trying. Thanks for the info.

Slashley

03-14-2019, 07:53 AM

reroll for Mika+fluffy, or Tish+fluffy, or Mika/Tish/Fluffy.
if you can get one of first two, ur luck is excellent. if u can get last, you are hidden taco employaIsn't that a liiittle bit unrealistic? Just a 100% Eidolon is usually considered enough.

EDIT: Also, Miracle Ticket is refreshing in ~17 hours. Could be a few hours earlier, if the server goes down for maintenance. Just having Fluffy means that you can buy double Miracle Ticket for both Tish and Michael, assuming that you're willing to invest 100 bucks of course.

Josmioh93

03-14-2019, 08:19 AM

Isn't that a liiittle bit unrealistic? Just a 100% Eidolon is usually considered enough.

EDIT: Also, Miracle Ticket is refreshing in ~17 hours. Could be a few hours earlier, if the server goes down for maintenance. Just having Fluffy means that you can buy double Miracle Ticket for both Tish and Michael, assuming that you're willing to invest 100 bucks of course.

So Sol is no longer the best KH in the game? Interesting...

Slashley

03-14-2019, 08:38 AM

Sol isn't bad, but Light is getting some absolutely crazy damage output Hime, so why bother? Better to kill them before they kill you.

Josmioh93

03-14-2019, 10:01 AM

Sol isn't bad, but Light is getting some absolutely crazy damage output Hime, so why bother? Better to kill them before they kill you.

Bro, any other KH to keep an eye on?

AutoCrimson

03-14-2019, 11:20 AM

if you want be meta, u run light with specific himes. and, as Slashley pointed, Sol isnt much of dps hime.
personally, since u missed TAphro, and if u can invest some cash into da game, i'd go the usual fire Uriel/Svarog combo

Josmioh93

03-14-2019, 12:32 PM

Got this:

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But only got Artemis, but getting 2 100% eidos is so tempting.

Slashley

03-14-2019, 12:58 PM

Got this:

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But only got Artemis, but getting 2 100% eidos is so tempting.Absolutely go with that.

Lexx

03-23-2019, 05:50 AM

If I’ve got Nephthys and Pluto dark SSR but I also have the 100% light eidolon, ehat element should I focus on?

Keyen

03-23-2019, 08:14 AM

Light all the way.

Xxjollxxxx29

04-16-2019, 09:15 PM

Newbie question... can you gift the ssr or sr heroes/characters to another account? If not what the points of rerolling??

nut

04-16-2019, 11:02 PM

Newbie question... can you gift the ssr or sr heroes/characters to another account? If not what the points of rerolling??
If you can, what the points of paying?? :think:

Laventale

04-18-2019, 09:55 AM

Newbie question... can you gift the ssr or sr heroes/characters to another account? If not what the points of rerolling??

The point of re-rolling is to get a boosted account with a better start. If you have been playing just for 1 month or so and your himes are crap/you don't have a 100% eido, just re-roll until you get the desired result.

Unregistered

05-01-2019, 05:51 AM

Is SSR Artemis and Diabolos Unleashed good enough? (also a bit confused on how the latter's effect work)

Slashley

05-01-2019, 06:29 AM

SSR Diabolos can be good, but endgame, I don't think she can be good for non-spacewhales. I wouldn't settle for that 100% Eidolon - good luck with another one...

Unregistered

06-02-2019, 12:26 PM

Hello

I started to play some time ago and come back today.

Ouroboros (60% dark/thunder) is my only SSR unit and she's not a 100% Eidolon.
Then SR units I have are :
- Ereshkigal (water)
- Belphegor (dark)
- Main Mission Kamihime

Should I try to reroll ?

Unregistered

06-02-2019, 03:48 PM

Slashley

06-02-2019, 03:48 PM

Hello

I started to play some time ago and come back today.

Ouroboros (60% dark/thunder) --You've drawn five Ouros and absolutely no other SSRs?

Even if that was the case, yeah, you should reroll.

Hiutsuri

06-03-2019, 06:38 AM

Howdy! I'm somewhat new, and have done a crap ton of rerolls (still doing some everyday) and after a few thousands total garbage (no 100% edos at all) I finally stopped.

Souls: Legendary - Andromeda, Herc
Have Yukimura

Currently a light main with:

LT, Metatron, Diana, Hermes, Urania, Orpheus, Dike, Innana, Aurora, Daphne, Aten, Caspiel, Kubera, and Circe.

Team is: Andromeda, Hermes, Diana, LT, Metatron

Have Herc wep, but can't use her because I don't have a healer - so using Andromeda mostly.

For Eido - Hectatonchires Main, Abou lvl LMB4, Python LMB4, Light Catastrophe LMB4, SR Light Dragoon LMB1, Cadrius LMB4

Also have some other SSRs, secondary team atm is dark.

Other SSRs: Hades, Ra
5 total dark SRs: Buer, Ereshkigal, Nyarlathotep, Volos, Paimon

Only have grids for Light and Dark atm, working on water grid from the most recent Union event. (Sloth)

Not sure if I should keep rerolling looking for a stronger account, or if this one is on a good enough track to just stick with it. Main grid is at 34k power atm.
Debating doing MT, but not sure what for... so advice on how to make my team as strong as it can be right now... or what to ticket, or if I should go dark would be great.

Just kinda lost and hit the point that any gains are gonna take some serious grind or some spending.

dreamlitz

06-03-2019, 09:21 AM

after a few thousands total garbage (no 100% edos at all) I finally stopped.

Wait, really, you did a few thousand rerolls and not a single 100% eido? That's some insanely bad luck. Usually you see at least one after a few hundred rerolls.

I would still advise rerolling if you aren't going to go crazy rerolling some more... This is especially the case if you're willing to buy mtix down the road. 100% eido + 1 SSR from mtix would still be stronger than what you have here. Yes, your rerolled account won't have the Abou and Python items, but it's not like either of those were particularly good anyway. The upcoming dark raid and light UE about a month from now have much better weapon rewards.

If you want to main light and you are willing to just settle for rerolling an SSR hime (strongly advise you settle only for 100% eido though), you should at least aim for Michael or Tishtrya (and mtix the one you didn't roll if you are willing to spend.) LT is good, but less versatile as she's quite weak against debuff resistant stuff.

If you are done with rerolls and going to stick with this account, I have a couple of suggestions for you:

Team is: Andromeda, Hermes, Diana, LT, Metatron

I have a rather unconventional team for you and I don't have Buer, so I can't test this myself, but in theory this should work:

Use Herc, Hermes, Diana, LT, Buer, Metatron in sub (yes, you read that right, bench Metatron and replace her with a dark SR, hear me out.) Keep using the 3rd ability for Buer - your goal is squeeze 2 potions out of her from 2nd ability then get her killed as quickly as possible. As soon as she goes down, Metatron will take her place, and Metatron's launch out means you can still full burst right away assuming the rest of the team is ready (with your team, Metatron will probably still be waiting around before FB.)

This is most reliable against bosses that do AoE, 'cos then Buer will guaranteed to be hit. If Hermes' taunt gets in the way too often for Buer to go down, you might have to bench Hermes instead of Metatron, but that means breaking your FB, so only do so if there's no other way.

For Eido - Hectatonchires Main, Abou lvl LMB4, Python LMB4, Light Catastrophe LMB4, SR Light Dragoon LMB1, Cadrius LMB4

Hectatonchires is good for beginners when your hp is still low. Unless gacha gives you more copies though, you should get St. Nick or Barong from eidolon orb shop and use those instead once you slvl up your weapons. Ditch the SR eidolons asap, even off-element MLB lilims give better stats.

Debating doing MT, but not sure what for...

Tishtrya - she'll let your team hit 45% def down, which isn't bad, and she comes with strong single target heal, so you don't have to rely on the Buer trick I outlined above. For second mtix, do Michael. But lest I be accused of kh-advising-malpractice - I want to repeat that 100% eido + mtix is better than what you have here + mtix. You're not far along enough or have an awesome enough team that justifies not rerolling.

or if I should go dark would be great.

Don't main dark unless you have Anubis or something. Your light team is much better than what you have here for dark anyway.

hit the point that any gains are gonna take some serious grind or some spending

Unfortunately, there will be lots of grind in this game. Try to get a team where you can just AAB the chores, including event battles, so you only have to manually do a few things like GO and maybe the raids you host.

Unregistered

06-03-2019, 02:42 PM

For the rerolling we are obliged to make the tutorial right ?

Actually it is not what is written in the guide but it had been maybe changed ?

Hiutsuri

06-03-2019, 06:54 PM

Wait, really, you did a few thousand rerolls and not a single 100% eido? That's some insanely bad luck. Usually you see at least one after a few hundred rerolls.

That is correct. The next best I got was Slepnier and Cybele Unleashed.

I would still advise rerolling if you aren't going to go crazy rerolling some more... This is especially the case if you're willing to buy mtix down the road. 100% eido + 1 SSR from mtix would still be stronger than what you have here. Yes, your rerolled account won't have the Abou and Python items, but it's not like either of those were particularly good anyway. The upcoming dark raid and light UE about a month from now have much better weapon rewards.

I've still been going for it, but tbh my luck has gotten even worse. I'm now starting to have accounts that don't even get a single Hime (R, SR, SSR) at all. I also have read that UE weapons are some of the best you can get as a F2P player.

If you want to main light and you are willing to just settle for rerolling an SSR hime (strongly advise you settle only for 100% eido though), you should at least aim for Michael or Tishtrya (and mtix the one you didn't roll if you are willing to spend.) LT is good, but less versatile as she's quite weak against debuff resistant stuff.

That is true, the drop in damage when she doesn't land the ELE RST down is very noticeable. I very much so want to main either light or dark.

If you are done with rerolls and going to stick with this account, I have a couple of suggestions for you:

I have a rather unconventional team for you and I don't have Buer, so I can't test this myself, but in theory this should work:

Use Herc, Hermes, Diana, LT, Buer, Metatron in sub (yes, you read that right, bench Metatron and replace her with a dark SR, hear me out.) Keep using the 3rd ability for Buer - your goal is squeeze 2 potions out of her from 2nd ability then get her killed as quickly as possible. As soon as she goes down, Metatron will take her place, and Metatron's launch out means you can still full burst right away assuming the rest of the team is ready (with your team, Metatron will probably still be waiting around before FB.)

This is most reliable against bosses that do AoE, 'cos then Buer will guaranteed to be hit. If Hermes' taunt gets in the way too often for Buer to go down, you might have to bench Hermes instead of Metatron, but that means breaking your FB, so only do so if there's no other way.

Funny enough I actually did exactly that before (W/out metatron though, got that on a random 300 crystal roll). Changed it because she really can kill herself insanely fast (she has ~4.6k HP compared to my teams ~10k). I'll deff give it a try though.

Hectatonchires is good for beginners when your hp is still low. Unless gacha gives you more copies though, you should get St. Nick or Barong from eidolon orb shop and use those instead once you slvl up your weapons. Ditch the SR eidolons asap, even off-element MLB lilims give better stats.

I suppose, I have a lot of Mangarmr friends so I used the light Eidos that I could. I'm working toward Barong right now.

Tishtrya - she'll let your team hit 45% def down, which isn't bad, and she comes with strong single target heal, so you don't have to rely on the Buer trick I outlined above. For second mtix, do Michael. But lest I be accused of kh-advising-malpractice - I want to repeat that 100% eido + mtix is better than what you have here + mtix. You're not far along enough or have an awesome enough team that justifies not rerolling.

Don't I already? -15% from LT, -15% Diana, -15% Sneak Attack (working toward sniper shot though). I was planning on Michael eventually though to try for Shingen team. Also, I guess just from what I saw while rerolling for months... I thought my current set up was pretty good. T_T

Don't main dark unless you have Anubis or something. Your light team is much better than what you have here for dark anyway.

Unfortunately, there will be lots of grind in this game. Try to get a team where you can just AAB the chores, including event battles, so you only have to manually do a few things like GO and maybe the raids you host.

Working on it. Thanks for all your time. I'm a little disappointed that a 100% Edio is still so good that what I have isn't worth keeping. I'll work on it. Although I have a feeling I'll never roll a decent account.

dreamlitz

06-03-2019, 09:54 PM

For the rerolling we are obliged to make the tutorial right ?

Actually it is not what is written in the guide but it had been maybe changed ?

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Click on the red 'Skip All' button near the top right hand corner after you started the game (got past the screen with Sol on it.) It is just outside the regular game rectangle, so ppl miss it sometimes. It still works, I just tried it myself today, you can press it as soon as the story starts and before the first line of dialogue even appears (as seen on the screenshot.)

That is correct. The next best I got was Slepnier and Cybele Unleashed.

Wow, that is rough! I feel bad for you! If I reroll something good in the near future, I'll check to see if you're interested (last time I rolled a 100% was a month ago though, so, don't count on my luck either.)

I also have read that UE weapons are some of the best you can get as a F2P player.

That is correct. Try to be in an active union before a UE starts, especially for an element that you main in.

I very much so want to main either light or dark.

Just curious, is this for aesthetic reasons or 'cos you don't want to worry about elemental advantages? If the latter, light is generally considered better 'cos their SSRs just synergize better than dark.

Funny enough I actually did exactly that before (W/out metatron though, got that on a random 300 crystal roll). Changed it because she really can kill herself insanely fast (she has ~4.6k HP compared to my teams ~10k). I'll deff give it a try though.

Yeah, it's an unconventional tactic, but I have seen it used in other contexts (purposely getting someone killed and replacing with a strong sub that is.) My thinking is that with Herc, you're hitting much harder, and if Buer dies quickly, you aren't sacrificing that much dmg either. Herc shouldn't require much if any heal, Diana can heal herself, Metatron will be fresh with full hp when she replaces Buer, so hopefully whatever potions you squeeze out of Buer can cover the remaining two himes.

Also, Buer's HP is probably so low 'cos she doesn't get any of the light weapon defender skills and the Hectatonchires 20% boost. That works to our advantage when we're trying to just extract potions from her and then replace her. Btw, with ~10k hp, you really should start looking into boosting your dmg output to the point where you can start to forego heal except for drawn out battles like GO (although ppl forego heal even for GO when they get strong enough.)

Don't I already? -15% from LT, -15% Diana, -15% Sneak Attack (working toward sniper shot though).

Sorry, didn't realize that you're unlocking/unlocked D'Art alreaady. That is correct, sneak attack/sniper shot and Tish's debuff are all B frame. Having Tish means you can EX something else, maybe BP when you unlock Mordred. Tish's debuff comes with resistance down, too. If it procs, it makes LT's light rst down easier to land. If both lands, the rest of your debuffs should land without problems (unless you're fighting wind rag or something.)

I was planning on Michael eventually though to try for Shingen team.

Michael is good even without Shingen. Also, I'm talking about Michael AW. Pre-awakening Michael alone is barely worth an mtix imo (not 'cos Michael is bad, just 'cos there're so many good light SSRs.) If you don't have 3 draconic eyes and AW LB materials at hand, or nearly at hand, mtix Tish first (assuming you are willing to spend 2 mtix; complete f2p is at the extreme mercy of gacha RNG for this game >.<)

Tish may not look that great on paper, but she really is that awesome especially after lvl 75, 'cos she fits really well with other light SSRs. Happy to elaborate more on light builds if you want, but don't want to advertise too hard for light unless you want me to (I main light, and I like how light teams fit together easily, so much so that I even have a poem written for it.)

I thought my current set up was pretty good. T_T

It's not bad, just that the ceiling without 100% eidolon is quite a bit lower. If you don't care about ranking or MVP-ing and just want some casual fun, the two light SSRs you have is actually a very good start. Once you have upgraded your grid, you should be able to clear pretty much everything outside of raids comfortably. You may struggle to get all 5 ori from GO every cycle and AQ5 will probably still be difficult, but you will be getting ori and can definitely clear AQ4 with that team.

I'm a little disappointed that a 100% Edio is still so good that what I have isn't worth keeping.

Maybe I was too strong in my language. It's not that what you have isn't worth keeping, just that once you've spent months on it, you will realize that you can never be as strong as some other players no matter how hard you farm. It's also harder to make friends with 100% eido without owning one yourself, so it kinda hits you twice. If it's any consolation, my main account is a light main and I do not own a 100% either. I found out about rerollling AFTER I spent real money and got myself up to 4 light SSRs (pulled even more since then.) Funnily enough, I pulled Hectatonchires, too. I certainly do not plan to trash my main account even though I have a secondary account with fluffy on it, although every once in a while I really wish I could merge those two accounts, lol. For comparison, my fluffy account with just 1 SSR was earning ori from GO as soon as it hit rank 51, whereas for my main account with 4 SSRs didn't earn any ori until around rank 60-ish iirc.

If you keep your expectations realistic about what can and cannot be accomplished without 100%, it is perfectly valid to play without one, well, I play without one at least... But yeah, 100% eido is kinda OP...

Although I have a feeling I'll never roll a decent account.

Gacha RNG sucks sometimes. Hope you're at least having some fun with the game!

Hiutsuri

06-04-2019, 12:03 AM

Thank you very much for your fantastic reply! I'll stick w/doing my 50 rerolls a day until I get something amazing. Until then I'll just enjoy learning on this account. I'm not concerned with being the best ever, just having something fun to plink away on while I watch youtube and relax after work.

Can't thank you enough for your time with reading my walls of text.

Jimmyjohn

06-04-2019, 12:21 PM

Didn't really read anything you said before but if you're looking for a 100% eido doing 50 rolls a day you should get one pretty soon and they're very much worth it even if you're not looking to "be the best". I've done a decent bit of re-rolling (probably 1500+ accounts now) and I usually get a 100% eido every ~100 accounts. That's not something to live by since at the end of the day it is just RNG but just wanted to say if you've got some free time and you're looking to play this game I'd recommend trying for a 100%. If you're looking for a 100% light eido account I have one that I don't use at all but it's not exactly "new" it's rank 14 but it still has the SR miracle ticket unused. Thought I had a spare dark account but I think I gave it away already, anyway PM me if you want it.

Yuki777

06-04-2019, 06:00 PM

dreamlitz

06-04-2019, 08:42 PM

I'm kinda a perfectionist and i would kinda like to try for a 120% eidolon or a 100% plus a SSR kamihime of the same element. Is that kinda crazy?

It's all RNG, so you might get that the next reroll. Statistically though, expect to reroll a long long time before getting 100%+ and an SSR of matching element.

I guess when leviathan gets released then Rudra becomes kinda.. redundant?

Wouldn't say redundant, Rudra is still way more powerful than other gacha eidolons and event eidolons. Hanuman (120% wind eidolon) has been out for a while now, and trust me, there are still plenty of ppl that would befriend every Hraesvelgr (100% wind eidolon) they see and jump for joy if they draw her themselves. The 120% eidolons like Leviathan require you to equip eidolons of matching element to get it up to 120% (will be boosted to 140% some time down the road btw), but otherwise they are 100% as well if none of your sub eidolons are of matching element. If you draw both Rudra and Leviathan on the same account, then it's sort of redundant, but they give different active abilities, so you might still end up using both.

Is a 120% gonna be necessary for upcoming content?

Strictly speaking no. Good team setup and strong weapons grid can help offset the lack of 100%+ eidolon to a limited extent. You just get to the required power level to clear all content much quicker with 100%+ and you have a noticeably higher ceiling in your power, so everything will just be easier. If you want to be top 20 in towers or MVP every rag raid, then 100%+ eidolon alone is probably not even enough - you need a lot of himes and lots of SSR/FLB weapons as well. So, depends on how ambitious you are.

Hastur seems pretty useable off element at least given she has all allies attack up and a def down. Is that the case?

You won't be using off-element himes for long. You lose too much power that way, especially if you have 100%+ eidolon. Hastur isn't a bad hime, but her skills aren't that special. People will occasionally bring non-matching element characters like Sol 'cos she has heal, cleanse and enemy buff removal, all of which are relatively rare skills. Those are merely temporary solutions until you draw or mtix the himes to complete a full team of matching element though.

Dejnov

06-04-2019, 10:02 PM

Soo..

I've spent 2 days re-rolling and I finally got one I think is pretty good but wanted some feedback before I started to play it.

I got..

Rudra (100% SSR Water Eidolon)
Hecatonchires (SSR Light Eidolon)

Hastur (SRR Wind Kamihime)

I know it's a good roll (I've done 100's all ready and this is easily the best I've got) but I'm kinda a perfectionist and i would kinda like to try for a 120% eidolon or a 100% plus a SSR kamihime of the same element. Is that kinda crazy? I guess when leviathan gets released then Rudra becomes kinda.. redundant? Is a 120% gonna be necessary for upcoming content?

Hastur seems pretty useable off element at least given she has all allies attack up and a def down. Is that the case?

Thanks for any advice.

Perfectly sustainable account. You'll be a water main and you can be wind as your second team. This fits fairly well as they are on the opposites of the element cube, so you will always be able to walk into a battle either with elemental advantage (water against fire, wind against thunder) or even (wind against water and water against wind).

As a Wind Hime, Hastur is great. She's got defense down and some damage skills (I think), but you'll be able to use her for a long time.

Congrats!!

You should now think of what water Hime you want to Miracle Ticket. And do the story for SR Nike (water healer).

Dejnov.

Slashley

06-05-2019, 10:06 AM

I know it's a good roll (I've done 100's all ready and this is easily the best I've got) but I'm kinda a perfectionist and i would kinda like to try for a 120% eidolon or a 100% plus a SSR kamihime of the same element. Is that kinda crazy?While it is theoretically possible, those kinds of accounts are incredibly rare. I wouldn't recommend going for that.
I guess when leviathan gets released then Rudra becomes kinda.. redundant? Is a 120% gonna be necessary for upcoming content?120% requires you to have full Water Eidolons equipped, which means less base Atk, which means not-quite-120%. The difference between 100% and 120% is quite meh.

... which is why they're buffing 120% Eidolons to 140% (up to 160% I think it was?) in December. That's when the difference becomes noticeable. Until then? Nobody cares.

JStat

07-11-2019, 01:16 PM

Slashley

07-11-2019, 01:33 PM

I know you should want to reroll for a 100% eid and a core SSR. In one account I got Gaia, Mars, and Tsukuyomi, but no 100% eids. Should I keep rerolling or stick to this account? I want to just beat the main story and I want to play completely Free 2 Play.The main story is short. You don't even need to reroll for that.

If you want to play the grinding game proper, then you should keep rerolling. 100% and a core SSR is insane, as finding even a 100% is rare enough. But finding a 100% is what you should aim for if you're going to reroll.

JStat

07-11-2019, 09:14 PM

The main story is short. You don't even need to reroll for that.

If you want to play the grinding game proper, then you should keep rerolling. 100% and a core SSR is insane, as finding even a 100% is rare enough. But finding a 100% is what you should aim for if you're going to reroll.

If the main story is so short/easy, then what do people need stronger teams for? What does going even further beyond the story give you in terms of rewards?

Slashley

07-12-2019, 02:19 AM

If the main story is so short/easy, then what do people need stronger teams for? What does going even further beyond the story give you in terms of rewards?The story is weak. If you want a good story, go read a book or a VN or something.

Kamihime is about grinding. The game throws endless amounts of grinding at you (events run like 7/9 days throughout the year), and personally I use the mindless grind to relax after work.

Unregistered

07-14-2019, 11:32 PM

The 66th roll was Hraesvelgr + EL. It's time to play, right?
And who should I choose from Sr tickets
Thanks

Slashley

07-15-2019, 01:00 AM

The 66th roll was Hraesvelgr + EL. It's time to play, right?
And who should I choose from Sr tickets
ThanksThere are SR tickets now?

What do new players get these days? SR Miracle Ticket and a SSR Hime Ticket...?

Kitty

07-15-2019, 03:28 AM

There are SR tickets now?

What do new players get these days? SR Miracle Ticket and a SSR Hime Ticket...?

New players still get the login bonus from the anniversary, so 3rd day is the SR MTix

Slashley

07-15-2019, 04:28 AM

New players still get the login bonus from the anniversary, so 3rd day is the SR MTixOh, I see. I wonder how long that will stay.

Anyway, Wind doesn't really shine in SRs. The best one is probably Oberon due to double debuffs. Then there's a bunch of slightly above average ones like Ithaqua (heals), Iblis (weak B frame and blind), Freja (targeted Intercept, mostly if you have someone with Guard like Ithaqua or Gaia) and Wind Rami (never underestimate just how good Zeal is). And technically Hathor I guess, if you could somehow guarantee Charm on the enemy.

AutoCrimson

07-15-2019, 05:11 AM

Iblis (weak B frame and blind)
actually, Iblis has wind att up as well

falcontea

07-15-2019, 07:38 AM

Yeah, with an aoe defense/attack debuff and a party wind attack buff I'd say Iblis is one of winds best options for the SR miracle ticket.

sanahtlig

07-15-2019, 07:49 AM

In one account I got Gaia, Mars, and Tsukuyomi, but no 100% eids. Should I keep rerolling or stick to this account? I want to just beat the main story and I want to play completely Free 2 Play.
If you just want to see the main story and event dialogues, any mishmash of characters will do. If you want to complete all content, including challenge missions, you're going to need optimal teams and strategies. In between the two extremes, a better team will allow you to gather characters and items more efficiently from events. If you don't plan to spend money, events will be your main source of Gatcha tickets (used to recruit characters), so being able to farm those more efficiently is definitely useful even for casual players.

This is an important question, so I've added it to the guide (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.pvh837azmsac). Thanks for bringing it up.

Unregistered

07-22-2019, 11:30 AM

Is diabolos unleashed considered good enough of a 100% eidolon for a reroll? (I got jupiter and marduk as well)

Slashley

07-22-2019, 11:53 AM

SSR Diabolos can work, but will probably require specific Hime. Basically, whale-only territory.

Sorry, you had best keep rerolling...

sanahtlig

07-23-2019, 10:05 AM

Is diabolos unleashed considered good enough of a 100% eidolon for a reroll?
I added this question to the guide. In short: the other +100% eidolons are easier to use without an optimized team. Use of Diabolos Unleashed requires unconventional strategies because deaths in mixed-element teams can severely reduce damage output, much moreso than single-element teams.

Unregistered

08-04-2019, 11:40 PM

Are any of these accounts worth starting on or should I keep rerolling?

1. Azazel + Uriel
2. Amaterasu + Odin + Pulse Kaiser Dragoon
3. Justitia + Ymir
4. Baal U + Raphael
5. Lakshmi + Raphael

Slashley

08-04-2019, 11:57 PM

Unfortunately, no 100% Eidolons means keep rerolling.

Unregistered

08-07-2019, 10:41 AM

hi, i got anubis and ouroboros but no ssr kamihime dark, should keep rolling?

sanahtlig

08-10-2019, 05:14 AM

A 100% eidolon is good enough to start with, since it's a strong upgrade and you won't be able to get this from normal play. If you want more than that you'll be rolling a very long time. You'll also have the opportunity to grab a Support Miracle Ticket and Miracle Ticket if you want to fill out your team.

sanahtlig

08-10-2019, 06:41 AM

I've added a section for the newly-added Support Miracle ticket (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.wsjgru239frx), which is an attractive offer for new players.

Starting 8/8/19, a special Step UP Gatcha is available to new users for 30 days from their first login. 3000 Nutaku Gold nets new players a Support Miracle Ticket, which can be exchanged for a starter SSR kamihime of the chosen element. The Gatcha series will also provide 2-3 random SR kamihime to fill out a new team. This Gatcha is recommended for new players to buff their best element and provide a considerable head-start.

All of these starter kamihime are eligible for Awakening.

Available kamihime:
SSR Ares (Fire, Attacker)
SSR Shiva (Water, Attacker)
SSR Gaia (Wind, Defender)
SSR Tyr (Thunder, Attacker)
SSR Sol (Light, Healer)
SSR Satan (Dark, Trickster)

sanahtlig

08-13-2019, 06:24 AM

Section added for Panel missions (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#) in the Leveling Guide, which now offer some attractive rewards.

Do your Panel Missions
As rewards, you’ll get the SSR weapon Diablopterux and an SR Miracle ticket. The SSR weapon has a skill that buffs character attack for all elements (it’s essentially a weapon with SSR stats and SR-level assault skill that works with any element, a nice filler until you have a full SSR grid).

The SR Miracle ticket can be used to fill out your main element. See discussion here for ideas. Oberon and Diana are good choices for Wind and Light, respectively, as they provide access to sorely needed debuffs for their respective elements. Healers are also good choices for elements short on them (e.g., Thunder, Dark).

Crow

08-13-2019, 12:20 PM

A Kamihime Youtuber (DFD) recommended not merging copies of Diablopterux, so it might be valuable to add your stance on that.

Kitty

08-13-2019, 12:30 PM

That "youtuber" is a dumbass and you shouldn't take his advice.
For new players, merging Diablopterux is the only thing they can do to have an extra weapon for all grids instead of getting a SR for each grid to fill up a slot. It's easy stats too. We should get the last copy on a next update that gives more missions, (as well as a SSR non-hime weapon ticket.) Once it's use is up, which could take up to a year for newcomers, it's a useful fodder :shrug:

dreamlitz

08-13-2019, 12:59 PM

Slashley

08-13-2019, 02:48 PM

A Kamihime Youtuber (DFD) recommended not merging copies of Diablopterux, so it might be valuable to add your stance on that.For a brand, BRAND new player... ... that could actually work. It'll take a long time until all of your Grids are up to par to the level where you start taking those off. While I won't shoot the idea down entirely, I'm not particularly keen on the idea, since that means you'll be wasting double/triple/quadruple resources specifically on stop-gap weaponry. Those things don't do shit without pumping Rs into them, after all.

Laventale

08-13-2019, 04:29 PM

sanahtlig

08-13-2019, 06:18 PM

On the topic of not merging stuff, I forgot whether your guide talks about hime weapons at all. Merging my dupe Tish lance is the single biggest mistake I made that I'm still kicking myself for. New players should be warned against doing that so they don't accidentally hurt their chances of getting an awesome end-game FLB grid.
I've updated the Leveling Guide (https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_dU3rCief_ajPGS9YBuVdxXBYFyCGGXAxYYyK0jzg/edit#heading=h.5ihfxw1r0rx) as follows:

Gacha and Kamihime SSR weapons are useful in late game, but less so in early game
In early game, weapons obtained from Gatcha should be treated as temporary equipment, as they can’t be easily limit-breaked. But hold onto them as they’re useful in late game. Gatcha SSRs and many of the Kamihime SSR weapons can be limit-breaked to LV150 (4th weapon limit break) in late game. These weapons are extremely valuable, so don’t use copies to limit break each other; instead use Holy Steel Argentum (obtainable from Tower or from cash shop specials) to separately limit break each copy to LB3, then 4th limit break them as described.

Unregistered

08-31-2019, 11:26 AM

Well, while i was rerolling I manage to get Ares (waifu) and Belial. But at the same time i got 3 Takeminakata. I was thinking to get the Support Miracle Ticket to get Sol. And a Miracle Ticket to get Svarog (No Uriel, hate lolis) or Amaterasu (Although she is good, she is too slow for the meta right?) or well, i´m open to recomendations.

sanahtlig

09-06-2019, 10:34 AM

That sounds like a reasonable plan. Japanese players have also compiled a list of Miracle ticket recommendations (http://神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?cmd=read&page=%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A9%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%81 %E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%81%8A%E5%8B%A7%E3%8 2%81%E7%A5%9E%E5%A7%AB%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7&word=%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A9%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AB%E3%83%81 %E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88), which is a good resource too.

QXZ

09-08-2019, 09:48 PM

thats pretty useful actually. thanks for posting it.

only thing i dont get is why doesnt Michael get recommended - despite Arti got nominated.

dreamlitz

09-09-2019, 11:21 AM

thats pretty useful actually. thanks for posting it.

only thing i dont get is why doesnt Michael get recommended - despite Arti got nominated.

That recommendation list is weird... Like, both the recommendation and the reasoning are weird. The himes it lists generally do not lead to a path to a team that is anything close to meta. It has a very strong heal and debuff bias, which may be appropriate for beginners, but then it does not consider areas that are easily filled by SRs, so I'm not sure whether it's even good recommendations for beginners.

Let's start with dark:

If you follow that list, you'll mtix Osiris, Thanatos and Amon U - none of them are bad, but then you have 2 C frame def down...
It recommends Osiris 'cos she's the only SSR healer - problem is that dark has literally no SSR ascension weapons outside of guardian weapons and Nerfertum's weapon when she comes out; even at SR level, only Buer's weapon has ascension, so around mid-game-ish, her BG gain is much more important than her heal imo
For early game, there's no shortage of SR healers for dark - it mentions Buer, but dark Diana, Manes, Ereshkigal and Hypnos can all provide some heal and works pretty well for early game content

The list for light is also weird:

As pointed out by QXZ, there's no mention of Michael. Mike AW is probably the only indispensable unit in light meta since almost every single light SSR unit has an important burst effect, so bursting often is the key to strong light teams.
SSR Arty is pretty good after her rebalance, but if this list is meant for beginners, I would go for Tish first for B frame, since A frame can be filled by Diana and Tish provides much more utility than SSR Arty.
It recommends Iris for debuff and 'boss-killing'. Iris is incredibly strong but only if you have Mike AW and running Shingen. Without them, you have almost no chance of hitting a 3T burst cycle consistently, and if you can't do that, Iris does not dish out her fabled 'boss-killing' dmg

Also want to comment on wind:

Mtix Hastur... Seriously, no... This may have made sense a year ago or so, but there're so many other worthy mtix options now. I mean, if you follow the recommendation list, you'll have Cybele U and Frig as well (questionable whether either are high mtix priority btw), that's 40% def down already, just EX ambush, use Hercules' axe or grab a friend Hraesvelgr if you really want the remaining 10%
I can see a debate about which other wind himes should or shouldn't be on the list, but no Aether on the list? She is very strong and synergizes very well with others since the burst multiplier is a separate multiplier

I could go on, but I don't know the other elements enough to intelligently comment on them. Bottom line is, talk to currently active experienced players for mtix recommendations. You can read recommendation lists, but use that as a starting point for you to ask intelligent questions. Remember that what works for someone with a 100% eido and a whale grid may not work for you, and fighting on- or off-element often changes what the meta is as well, so always ask how others use a certain hime if you're not sure if something will work for you or not.

tl;dr - ask experienced players for mtix advice; standard recommendation lists should only be a start point

Deus5659

09-09-2019, 02:11 PM

dreamlitz

09-09-2019, 02:42 PM

Okay so I’ve finally had enough of rerolling and I’m not entirely sure which account to stick with.

1) Anubis, Gaia, Takeminekata, Vohu Manah, Echidna, and Gale Kaiser Dragoon.

2) Leviathan, Gaia, Mars, and Sol.

3) Nidhoggr, Managarmr, Asherah, and not a single SR (aside from Nike obviously).

My vote goes to 3 - two 100% is very rare and very good. You have twice the chance of landing a SSR that matches your eidos in future, and you'll make friends very easily. Both thunder and light are also very strong elements. Lack of SR isn't a big issue since you get two SR mtix - one from login and one from panel missions. If you decide to main thunder, one from story as well.

I would recommend playing through the story to get more jewels and see if your new rolls give you any thunder or light SSR before spending your SR mtix.

Slashley

09-10-2019, 01:25 AM

Okay so I’ve finally had enough of rerolling and I’m not entirely sure which account to stick with.

1) Anubis, Gaia, Takeminekata, Vohu Manah, Echidna, and Gale Kaiser Dragoon.

2) Leviathan, Gaia, Mars, and Sol.

3) Nidhoggr, Managarmr, Asherah, and not a single SR (aside from Nike obviously).Nigger you have two 100%s in the third one. Fuck you and befriend me, thanks.
Honestly you can get much better friends with that setup than me with my zero 100%...
--
I would recommend playing through the story to get more jewels and see if your new rolls give you any thunder or light SSR before spending your SR mtix.Just remember that Miracle Tickets - even SR ones - will expire in two weeks after they're in your inventory. The game will remind you about it upon login, though.

DavieBerry

12-27-2019, 01:10 AM

Just rerolled these two accounts:

1) Metatron, Ephemeral Moon Diana, Vishnu, Raiko, Frigg, and Belial

2) Marduk, Chernobog, Cerberus, and Fafnir

Which account would you recommend going with? Also, what would be a good miracle ticket for either account? Thanks for the help.

Mythos74

05-29-2020, 10:47 AM

is rerolling still a thing, how up to date is this guide? I am new to this game, just a time waster on downtime at work.

Slashley

05-29-2020, 11:24 AM

I believe the guide these days says to roll for one of the 140% Eidolons (Cerberus/Leviathan/Hanuman/Nidhoggr) or the ones that don't have a second tier (Managarm and Anubis). Therefore, it should be accurate. You will want to reroll into one of those if you intend to play long term.

Mythos74

05-30-2020, 01:05 AM

I rolled one with rudra, magmanar and one Ssr Kamihime vohu manah.

Should I keep or keep going for one of the 140% ones.

Thanks

Slashley

05-30-2020, 01:08 AM

Sounds plenty good enough to me.

You have Managarm, which is the best possible one for Light. Rudra+Vohu will be really strong for you for a long time too.

Neon

07-20-2020, 07:08 AM

Hi, I have two accounts that i rerolled for and I am currently having a difficult time deciding which to main(throw money into)...I have played them both for different amounts of time:
1 is rank 83 with hanuman and wind ssrs Ishtar and Odin; and side ssrs vishnu/nike(ssr)/dagda.
The 2nd is rank 33 with hanuman and hraesvelgr and wind ssr Isis; and side ssrs vahagn/jupiter/dian cecht/pluto.
I was maining the rank 83 account (I started a little over a month ago) but was not able to invest (money) into the account. I continued rerolling hoping for a hanuman with either an azazel or cybelle(ssr) but instead i got 2 wind hundus. The issue for me is that again I've played the "main" (rank 83) account for over 30 days so I no longer have access to the starter gacha rolls that gives the support miracle ticket, whereas the 2nd account does have access to the limited support miracle ticket, but the second account doesnt have Ishtar...and no matter which account I end up investing in I plan to prioritize Azazel and cybelle(ssr) as my miracle ticket choices. Long story short which account would be more advantageous to main?