New Player gaches

[Luffy911]

So I just started the game today. I like this type of games and I think I'm gonna commit to this game for a while.
So, for the good part. There are so many gachees to choose from. I'm wondering if there are some have higher chances than the rest or if some KH are better than others.
I think I understand the game so far but need to read more about upgrading skills limit break etc as I progress more into the game.
With that said, any tips would greatly help.
Thanks in advance

[VeryVoodoo]

I personally find that the only $$ gachas that may be worth it (aka, not a total scam) are 1) Miracle Tickets, priced at $50, which let you choose any 1 Kamihime (bar the limited-time ones) released before... & 2) the SSR Kamihime release weapon guaranteed gachas (usually priced at $50, though they've dropped them to $30 on certain occasions). I guess depending on how much you want to whale, you can also go for the SSR-eido guaranteed gachas or the SSR-any guaranteed ones.

Keep in mind that from your starting point, you'll be behind in terms of competitiveness or clearing the most difficult content for quite awhile until you build up your grids. Unless you mega-whale and just buy your weapon grids from the gachas, like some do. But for the most part, if you're smart about your grid building and invest time into them, eventually (months to a year) it's possible to get to the point where you can compete against whales, without actually spending (granted you'd still a need a bit of RNG luck throughout that time).

As for starter tips, the biggest one would probably be: if your current starting account doesn't have a good roll of SSRs from the starter 6K Jewels the game gives you, just make a new account and keep re-rolling until you get something worth sticking with. Refer to the re-rolling thread linked on these forums for more info regarding that. Good luck.

[Luffy911]

I was wondering about rerolling, good thing you covered that up. Thanks a bunch.

[Laventale]

I was wondering about rerolling, good thing you covered that up. Thanks a bunch.

There's a re-rolling guide sticked and it covers almost everything you should know about it and how you should start.

Nowadays, re-rolling for a 100% eido is the best start you could even get.

[MagicSpice]

when you get to skill leveling, there's a guide on that too. just farm assault weapons (pride ones too if you get them as they do act like assault mostly and have high stats). quick way to get stronger is to get SSR and SR assault weapons as your damage output really jumps when those weapons get high skill levels (especially on SSR).

And you might want to start off focused towards an element (if you get a 100% eidolon, focus on that element first), then spreading out to others eventually. there's a guide on that too

[Luffy911]

Oh I just saw these. Wellll, I got like 4 water SSRs from gaches and when I pulled SSR Eido I got thunder -_- I was like dammit. Thankfully, I can do the event now and get the water SSR which gonna complete my water set. Kind of, my backline is SRs but I'm not complaining lol

[ZenMaster]

First welcome to the game! I hope you're going to enjoy, I know I do. Been a long term player (but took a break, then came back and really got hooked) and for what's it worth I think Kamihime is one of the most honest "freemium browser games" out there. Sure they hope that you're going to grab your wallet and invest some money, but: you don't have to.

Now... Many people talk about rerolling and plotting and all that. My advice: do take note of those but don't overvalue it too much. Because in my opinion several aspects get overrated. Sure, having a cool SSR Eidolon in your setup is good, no arguments. But the problem is that SSR is a very rare Eidolon. And that can bring problems in itself....

See: Kamihime and Eidolons have limits to their maximum level. The cool part is that you can level break them which means that you can level them up a little further. The costs for this differ. For kamihime you need various materials, which you can gain from the daily quests (not all!). But Eidolons require another Eidolon to level break. So here's my issue: considering how rare certain SSR's are, how do you expect to gain more and level break them?

Don't get me wrong though: some SSR Eidolon's are good to have no matter what, absolutely. But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events and actually having a good shot at level breaking them to the max (you can then raise them to level 100) rather than having a cool but super rare SSR Eidolon which you can only upgrade to level 40 at best (which is very easy to do over time).

Since you're new: there are often events going out where you can gain items by fighting and then trading those items for rewards. For example: right now there is the Sphinx and Vritra event where you can battle either Eidolon, gain items, and then trade those in the shop (see Quests => SP quests, first page). That can also help boost your stuff.

And another tip: be sure to scope out the shop too! The single player missions gain you items too, which you can use to trade in the shop. You can even trade for Eidolons and... you may have guessed it: if you grind a bit you can gain more and then level break 'm.


There are so many gachees to choose from. I'm wondering if there are some have higher chances than the rest or if some KH are better than others.
Others have already mentioned the paid types. Also pay attention to the Gem and magic jewel gachas. Even though they are "free" (you can easily gain gems) they're actually pretty good! You won't get more than R (rare) types out of the Gem cacha but even so: it's worth it. Magic jewels, same thing. But it's harder to get something good.

Tip: especially when you're just starting: aim for 10 gachas rather than singles. The gem gacha doesn't really matter too much afaik but the others do. Rolling 10 usually gets you some kind of (good) guaranteed drop which is always good to have.


I think I understand the game so far but need to read more about upgrading skills limit break etc as I progress more into the game.
You do? ;)

Sorry, just teasing. Kamihime can be tricky to get started with. But very rewarding. My tips...

Don't pay too much attention to what people tell you to do (me included!). Sure, this can lead up to good results, but in the end it's your game. Nothing beats discovering stuff on your own IMO.

Patience! Really, having patience to build up your teams and upgrading them goes a long way. Others already mentioned: expect to work on your team(s) for several weeks if not months. But it's oh so rewarding. I don't focus on a single team but instead I maintain 8 separate element teams, mixed with a few different souls. Tip: take good note of your playing style. Several kamihime (and eidolons) have different powers which can cater to different play styles. When a Kamihime is marked 'tricky' that's usually true: it can be tricky to use them to their full potential, but if you do.... yeah, well worth it. But it can take lots of patience! (some abilities only unlock and get even better at higher levels).

Do NOT underestimate R(are) type kamihime! Sure... SR and SSR are very good, especially because you can level them up more. (rare type kamihimes can only be broken 3 times; which gives you a max. level of 50. SR otoh can be broken 4 times and can go all the way up to 70). SR and SSR usually also have more and better abilities. Despite that do not make the mistake of thinking that SR is always better than R, it's not. It depends on the kamihime's abilities, your play style, the team setup, the team overall balance, etc, etc.

Make friends! And maintain your friends! Another reason why I think rerolling is sometimes overrated: if you have active friends you can use their eidolons. And well, most of my friends are just as active (even more!) as I am, giving me access to several high level eidolons, even a few level 100 types. Make friends, but also go over your friends list from time to time and get rid of inactive players. Last seen 30 days ago? Consider dumping those and then replacing them with other (more active) friends again. Why? Because you'll most likely not see their Eidolons appear in your availability lists. Active friends > inactive friends.

Speaking of friends: Feel free to add me if you'd like: 3565105 (I assume your name is the same? If not kindly share ;) I am picky who I add or not) :) Dunno if I can befriend lower level players (I'm lvl 56 atm) but in this case I wouldn't mind trying :)

And don't forget these forums too :) It's a really fun place IMO.

Finally: have some fun! :) Don't forget what this game is all about 8)

Hope this was somewhat useful.

[Slashley]

... oh christ, it's you again. I very, very aggressively responded last time, but you're still making the exact same mistakes. I will correct you again.

To be noted: I've basically said the same thing before here (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/4421-updated-kamihime-project-rerolling-guide-intermediate-players-7.html#post114402).
-- Now... Many people talk about rerolling and plotting and all that. My advice: do take note of those but don't overvalue it too much. Because in my opinion several aspects get overrated. Sure, having a cool SSR Eidolon in your setup is good, no arguments. But the problem is that SSR is a very rare Eidolon.--

-- But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events and actually having a good shot at level breaking them to the max (you can then raise them to level 100) rather than having a cool but super rare SSR Eidolon which you can only upgrade to level 40 at best (which is very easy to do over time).--

-- Make friends! And maintain your friends! Another reason why I think rerolling is sometimes overrated: if you have active friends you can use their eidolons. --You don't understand how the game works.

No event will come CLOSE to a P2W Eidolon. EVER. Even at 0-stars and level 1, they absolutely CRUSH any and ALL other Eidolons - even level 100 ones. Level doesn't matter. The passive effect does. And 100% at 0-stars and 120% at 4-stars is just way, WAY too much for ANYTHING else to come even close.

Maybe you don't understand what P2W Eidolons are since you keep spouting this garbage. Let's set it straight:
Fire: Belial
Water: Rudra
Wind: Hraes
Thunder: Kirin
Light: Munagarum (not out yet, name subject to change depending on Nutaku's mood)
Dark: Anubis (not out yet)
(Wind: Hanuman (not out yet, far in the future))

Out of the gacha ones, these are the ONLY Eidolons that truly matter (and Kaiser Dragoon for back-up Eidolons I guess). Sure, some of the non-P2W ones are decent, but you'll need at least 2-stars on them for them to outperform event Eidolons (once they come out, we don't have all of them yet). And getting 2-stars on a specific gacha Eidolon is hard. Basically impossible without extremely deep wallets (10k+ dollars). Even if you get a LMB gacha Eidolon, the difference in power isn't THAT much.

EXCEPT for P2W Eidolons. Which are exceedingly rare. The difference in power from these is just... out of this world. You don't need to even get 1-star on them - they're insane straight out of the box. And, you probably never will find one of these. If you want a single one, 10k dollars won't get you far. In other words, you will never, ever find one of these without paying ridiculous amounts of real money. Or... you could just reroll into one of them.

And that's why, if you reroll into a P2W Eidolon, your friend list will be full of high level people who are active and have at the very least THE best event Eidolons. Or, you can just look for other P2W Eidolon users, as many of them don't accept non-P2W owners into their friendlist. Because what's better than one P2W Eidolons? TWO P2W Eidolons!

So please, stop spouting this garbage.
"Oh but gacha Eidolons will only be level 40 so they'll be bad!" NO. WRONG. P2W Eidolons laugh at ALL level 100 Eidolons even at level 1.
"Making friends is easy and you can use their Eidolons!" NO. WRONG. Without P2W Eidolons, you'll struggle to find proper friends for a very, very long time. If you have a P2W Eidolon, you can basically pick ANY active, high level player and they'll accept your friend request.
"Rerolling is overrated!" NO. WRONG. It's not overrated, it's underappreciated. We need more P2W Eidolons into the game and rerolling is basically the only way to get them into the playerpool. That said, P2W Eidolons are exceedingly rare (somebody lately said that they're nearing 2000 accounts and found zero P2W Eidolons) and are not required - but while hunting for a P2W Eidolon account you should at the very least settle for the minimum of either two SSRs of the same element or one core SSR.

Being wrong isn't inherently bad, but only if you learn from your mistakes. Please don't make me do this a third time.
-- And another tip: be sure to scope out the shop too! The single player missions gain you items too, which you can use to trade in the shop.--Please no. The only thing worth buying from the Shop is Vine (the Dark Eidolon for her active ability). For some incomprehensible reason, the SR weapons in the store have an absolutely miserable Atk stats, making them effectively entirely worthless.

[Ikki]

No event will come CLOSE to a P2W Eidolon. EVER. Even at 0-stars and level 1, they absolutely CRUSH any and ALL other Eidolons - even level 100 ones. Level doesn't matter. The passive effect does. And 100% at 0-stars and 120% at 4-stars is just way, WAY too much for ANYTHING else to come even close.


I can just agree with this XD Zen you are underestimating 100% eidos waaay too much, they are far stronger than anything in the game atm, event eidos you can get them on the run and improve your stats slowly by just grinding, 100% eidos dont even care about the dmg formula cause they will always be superior, you should know by now how strong they are by just borrowing them, you can say that rerolling is boring and a pita etc but this "But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events" is just beyond dumb.

[ZenMaster]

... oh christ, it's you again. I very, very aggressively responded last time, but you're still making the exact same mistakes. I will correct you again.
Gee, I wonder why :P I guess you also failed to get any of my messages so lets try that one again as well.


Out of the gacha ones, these are the ONLY Eidolons that truly matter (and Kaiser Dragoon for back-up Eidolons I guess). Sure, some of the non-P2W ones are decent, but you'll need at least 2-stars on them for them to outperform event Eidolons (once they come out, we don't have all of them yet).
And here we go. "Outperform". It's all about trying to be the strongest, best, etc. And apparently, according to some players such as yourself, that seems to be impossible without the P2W stuff, which I still disagree with.

So what exactly does all of this gain you, other than perhaps an easier victory? It's not as if the end result, winning the battle, can't be achieved otherwise. Because as you said: the status effect is what people concentrate on, but that only goes so far. It'll mostly be your kamihime's doing the actual fighting and applying the actual damage.

But as long as people are obsessed with "easier is better" you get your kind of nonsense. You wouldn't happen to have any (financial) stakes in the Kamihime game yourself by any chance? I mean, you almost make it sound as if I'm attacking your source of income merely because I "dare" to disagree with you and vent my opinion.

Once again you also failed to show why you think I'm wrong. You don't get much further by calling my opinion garbage and keep on venting how much better those P2W Eidolons are while failing to give us any actual examples. C'mon on; lay it all out if you're at it....

[Slashley]

So, your argument is, because content CAN be cleared without P2W Eidolons, they're worthless?
... alright. Fair enough. But then you need to state it clearly to new players that your opinions are mathematically challenged.

Also, the one thing which is not mathematically wrong because it is objectively wrong is how say that maintaining your friend list is important, yet you don't recommend rerolling to a P2W Eidolon. Without a P2W Eidolon, a friend list is pure suffering to a new player. At the VERY least, get that part straight.
--
Once again you also failed to show why you think I'm wrong. You don't get much further by calling my opinion garbage and keep on venting how much better those P2W Eidolons are while failing to give us any actual examples. --Define an actual example then.

You know, aside from pointing out that your "level obsession" is wrong. And the friend list thing.

[I AM TELLING SHIT!]

Gee, I wonder why :P I guess you also failed to get any of my messages so lets try that one again as well.


And here we go. "Outperform". It's all about trying to be the strongest, best, etc. And apparently, according to some players such as yourself, that seems to be impossible without the P2W stuff, which I still disagree with.

So what exactly does all of this gain you, other than perhaps an easier victory? It's not as if the end result, winning the battle, can't be achieved otherwise. Because as you said: the status effect is what people concentrate on, but that only goes so far. It'll mostly be your kamihime's doing the actual fighting and applying the actual damage.

But as long as people are obsessed with "easier is better" you get your kind of nonsense. You wouldn't happen to have any (financial) stakes in the Kamihime game yourself by any chance? I mean, you almost make it sound as if I'm attacking your source of income merely because I "dare" to disagree with you and vent my opinion.

Once again you also failed to show why you think I'm wrong. You don't get much further by calling my opinion garbage and keep on venting how much better those P2W Eidolons are while failing to give us any actual examples. C'mon on; lay it all out if you're at it....

I'll keep it short...

Yeah, you are right. Winning the battle can be achieved otherwise.
You have 3 options:
1. you start with your first account and don't care what himes you get from the 6k tutorial jewels
2. you reroll until you have a core Hime for a element or 2 good SSR from the same element
3. you reroll until you get an 100% Eido

I am starting to think that you aren't a logical person...

Even a SSR Core Hime for one element or 2 good SSR Hime will make you life so much easier as a newbie...
You have a good starting Hime and now you can start to max this element. After 1-2 month you will have a very good team that can do most of the current contents solo. This team will be your wildcard for months!

Now you are going to start to upgrade your other grids until they are good enough that you can run with elemental advantage and do more damage than your main team.

A FUCKING 100% EIDO will just make your team for this element just OP...

You don't need a 100% Eido to win every battle but dude those MONSTERS will just make you life for later contents (Guild Orders and Tower) so much easier.
You don't need to have one but you should always choose a 100% Eido as a support Eido.

YOU CAN PLAY HOW YOU WANT! THAT'S YOUR DECISSION BUT PLEASE DON'T TELL NEW PLAYERS SUCH A BULLSHIT!

If you have the choice to start easier with a good core hime or a 100% Eido then you should always reroll!
Basically you should always reroll for most of the gatcha games.

PS: ZenMaster please try RANK 3 or 4 Accesory quest... with your current team and strategy you will have a lot of problems!
Don't even try Guild Orders or Tower.

[ZenMaster]

So, your argument is, because content CAN be cleared without P2W Eidolons, they're worthless?
... alright. Fair enough. But then you need to state it clearly to new players that your opinions are mathematically challenged.
Ah, as I expected. When I merely ask for an example why you're attacking my opinion so obsessively you perform reverse logic and want me to defend mine instead. I fail to see the merit to be honest because all that will probably do is incite even more bullshit attacks, as demonstrated. Maybe in PM if you're really interested, then we also don't bother the others (this thread is about beginner gacha's after all). Or maybe the reroll thread...


Without a P2W Eidolon, a friend list is pure suffering to a new player. At the VERY least, get that part straight.
lol... What you call suffering is what I'd call actually playing the game. I also have some alts around, some of which have 0 P2W Eidolons and amazingly enough I still get things done. Still attract friends, still win battles, slowly (true that!) gain more power and most of all: I'm actually having fun.

Oh well... fanboys will be fanboys. In every kind of game. It's either their way or the highway, and nothing in between. Thanks for clarifying this for me.

[ZenMaster]

PS: ZenMaster please try RANK 3 or 4 Accesory quest... with your current team and strategy you will have a lot of problems!
What "current" team? I have 8 of them, each specialized in either one single element or one mixture for experimenting. I definitely agree that trying to attack thunder with a thunder team (which is mostly active b/c of the event) would be dumb. That's why I keep more around. And yes, I agree: those higher level accessory missions are more difficult. Not impossible. Not even for me.

[Slashley]

Ah, as I expected. When I merely ask for an example why you're attacking my opinion so obsessively you perform reverse logic and want me to defend mine instead. I fail to see the merit to be honest because all that will probably do is incite even more bullshit attacks, as demonstrated. Maybe in PM if you're really interested, then we also don't bother the others (this thread is about beginner gacha's after all). Or maybe the reroll thread...I'm still waiting for you to define an example.

[BlazeAlter]

10098
(you can ignore this meme if you don't want to view it, i just made it for fun lol)

in my opinion, rerolling is a blessing for this game, especially for new players
because some games don't give you the option to reroll, like FGO, meaning you're basically stuck with whatever you get from the start and if RNG doesn't favor you, life is gonna be hard.

like yeah sure, that might be normal in the beginning but, would you want that to stay the same way forever?
Would you prefer your battles to last over 30 turns each time? exaggerated example i know, but obviously you wouldn't since that would be a pain in the ass to deal with every time. if 100% eidolons can make your battles just last 10 to 15 turns instead of 30 turns, I would rather take the route with less turns

most newbies to this game will always get that "roll for a 100% eido" advice or at least 2 core SSRs or something for an element of their choice), because that's the best advice they can get from them, and some old players didn't even get the option to reroll at all, much less at these recent 100% eidolons we are getting because they didn't exist at the time they began playing this game

I didn't reroll either since I placed a lot of effort into my own account before I even discovered what rerolling was, but if I had the option at that time I would have. even more so if 100% eidolons were available at that time, but no they werent lol

and let's face it- kamihime is not a newbie friendly game, some people will probably get turned off from playing this by how much you actually have to grind just to get the good stuff. and newbies won't be able to do this at all, and not for awhile until they can get on the level of ultimates (in terms of advents of course, for raids they can rely on people)
and i know that advent material cost reduction for the shop is coming close, but newbies will still have a hard time with that

But if they had a 100% eido, things will be a bit different. if they played consistently, they might not take awhile before they can do ultimates, and they'll have an easier time trying to catch up with most players because that's just how OP those 100% eidolons are. if they're not willing to spend a shit ton of cash just to roll for one (and they might not even get it) then why not get one for free? That's like the best deal you can have for this game right now and will make your life a lot more easier in future content, and as people said they'll attract a LOT of strong players with a full set of MLB'ed support eidos even at just a low rank. I don't even understand why someone would want to go the hard and slow way now..
I know it's not impossible to become strong in this game without those 100% eidos, but if you were in the beginning of a raid while someone else was using that, there's is NO WAY you can steal MVP from that guy especially if he has a decent grid + team. Having one of those is just a fast way to becoming strong, and why not take it?

tl;dr
100% eidos make life easier for newbies in the beginning, its like riding a racecar compared to a normal car
if you want actual examples on how they make life easier then (these ones are kinda common sense)
-much easier to add high rank players, let alone whales for a shit ton of good support eidos already at the beginning of the game
-you can use that element to clear all kinds of content with ease, especially in the future (except the element you're weak against)
-you won't need to farm any other eido for that element in main spot because 100% eidolons are irreplaceable as main eido

[Delete]

Everyone, chill a bit...
While I am the first that only follow some advice (I like to make teams with more defense and healing that most), and agree that you do not need to be the absolutely best to have fun with the game, I agree with Slashley on the importance of 100% Eidolons. It is not to "be the very best and all content be easy". The ones who most benefit of an advantage like that are precisely the new players, who can scale on power more easily, and everyone on those contents where you struggle to win. I have no 100% Eidolon :sad:, and only a few friends with them (my friend list is not so good as I would like), but when I use those Eidolons on difficult content the difference is clear; today I have done two times accessory of lightning T4. The time I could chose an 100% Eidolon from a friend was perfect and smoothly. The other time, that handicap and some enemy triple attack made that combat an extremely difficult one. Is there, when you have problems, when you need them the most.
And more important, when you talk with people new to the game, talk about that kind of things is very important. One or two sentence like "but if you have some 100% Eidolon, you have a great advantage" and I do not think others while have a problem with the text.
See you all on play. :grin:

[VeryVoodoo]

Why do you guys get so bothered with what stupid things 1 low lvl/rank troll says? Any new player who decides not to re-roll even while knowing about it, obviously aren't serious about the game and will probably quit in a month or so anyway. While any serious new player will realize the importance of it by themselves eventually. The re-roll thread linked in these forums explains it pretty thoroughly already, so there's no point hashing over the same topic since you can just direct new players there. In the past when there were no 100% eidos, it might have not been as important for new players (hell, I never re-rolled myself since I never knew about it until much later); but nowadays any new players who fail to re-roll are only gimping themselves in the end, considering how far behind the curve they already are by missing all the other content so far. A 100% eido basically helps to put them on par for course since they're starting so late, and if they want to skip that for whatever dumb reason, well more power to them for wanting to play the game on hard mode I guess.
:rofl:

[LeCrestfallen]

to be fair, rerolling for a 100% eido is madness ~~ if you get one in couple rerolls, be happy, take it, enjoy the game. i would not go out of my way to reroll till i get them, would most likely stop at a core hime + something useful, or some shit along those lines. i don't know anyone that actually did 2k rerolls without a 100% eido, but couple of friends did several hundred (<500 in total over the month's) without any 100% eidos. maybe 0.5% chance? no clue.

<--- did never rerolled, just played the game, had no clue what reroll was. If i had known, i would most likely have 2-3 good ssr himes more ~~ well, did start early on, did not lose out on much though, also sol's weapon loves me.

tl:dr if you have access to get one 100% eido, use it, be happy. you are done rerolling :D

[Laventale]

in my opinion, rerolling is a blessing for this game, especially for new players
because some games don't give you the option to reroll, like FGO.

This is false, you can re-roll in FGO. Whether it is a hassle to do or not, that's another issue.

[Cobblemaniac]

Holy hell this thread derailed quite quickly...

Let me just tl;dr this for the new player:

1. If you're just playing this game casually, don't really care about optimal progress, just play it as normal, and have fun!
2. If you're gonna cash, consider rerolling for a 100% eidolon or a really good team of core kamihime before actually cashing to get the most out of your account.
3. If you're taking this game seriously, it's almost necessary to reroll for a near perfect account, unless you'd like to try your hand at hard mode like VeryVoodoo mentions.

Of course, if you're trying to grab himes for their scenes... This thread does it for you, for free. Although you have to do some manual labour in terms of downloading. https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/3605-love-scenes-collecting.html

That is all.

[BlazeAlter]

off topic- just ignore me, this is completely unrelated to this thread:


This is false, you can re-roll in FGO. Whether it is a hassle to do or not, that's another issue.

the kind of "easy rerolling" i was talking about was simply making an account and clicking the gacha, like what we do in kamihime

the "rerolling" u were referring to in FGO is being forced to clear every single mission in the first singularity which would take you awhile, so i dont really consider it as an easy option to reroll. plus you don't really just simply delete your account on that game because there's no "delete account" button for it
i dont consider rerolling for the "free" tutorial gacha either, game gives you like what, 30 saint quartz which is equivalent to 3k jewels but you're forced to spend it on that tutorial gacha thing where you can't even get a free 5/SSR star servant lol. the best you can get is a 4 star/SR servant, and unless you're lucky you wont even get one of the good SR servants, and the selection is limited as well plus the rates for a 5 star, let alone a 4 star servant is much MUCH lower in that game unlike kamihime rates where SR himes are easily obtainable

in the past it didnt used to be like that, newbies were free to spend that 30 SQ gift at the beginning and keep on creating accounts for easy rerolls, but now you can't, and if kamihime does that here, like make a tutorial gacha only containing SR himes and no SSRs at all then that would suck, and its why im saying the kind of rerolling we have at kamihime is a blessing to newbies who got attracted to this game

[Luffy911]

As hard as I have to admit, I should have rerolled into better SSR. I have already spent 100 bucks and I didnt to reroll then i used one of the OP AF Eidolons and it blew my mind.
Even tho I already spent some money I'm going to reroll into one of the better ones and try and play with both accounts as I focus more on the one with better Eidolon.

Thanks all for your input its very helpful.