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MagicSpice
05-15-2018, 01:52 AM
So yeah, post the current % (or levels) of each grid for your elements that you have. Also post the potential max you can get as well if you know how to calculate it. Only calculate weapon skill levels as well. Potential can be any 10 weapons of your choice for your grid as long as you own them.

So it should end up like this more or less, with my grids as an example:


Fire (Current Total)- 68% Assault, 9.5% HP, Pride Lv9, (any additional pride weapons if you have them)
Fire (Potential Max)- 93% Assault, 13% HP, Pride Lv20

Water (Current Total)- 29.5% Assault, 44.5% HP, Pride Lv1
Water (Potential Max)- 68% Assault, 84% HP, Pride Lv20

Wind (Current Total)- 43% Assault, 49% HP, Pride Lv4
Wind (Potential Max)- 74% Assault, 87% HP, Pride Lv20

Thunder (Current Total)- 36% Assault, 39% HP, Pride Lv1
Thunder (Potential Max)- 48% Assault, 64% HP, Pride Lv20, Pride Lv20, Pride Lv20

Light (Current Total)- 71.5% Assault, 45% HP, Pride Lv12
Light (Potential Max)- 97% Assault, 71% HP, Pride Lv20

Dark (Current Total)- 18.5% Assault, 35.5% HP, Pride Lv8
Dark (Potential Max)- 45% Assault, 71% HP, Pride Lv20


This is a thread to pretty much show off what you got. Give suggestions and stuff if you want, but it's not the main focus.... Oh and go by current Nutaku content, not future content that DMM has (meaning don't factor in 4th weapon breaks).

And if you want to do screenshots, be my guest. Mine are below:

Fire- https://imgur.com/ByxKE9T

Water- https://imgur.com/p9Fua3i

Wind- https://imgur.com/YOmO2mI

Thunder- https://imgur.com/kCdkZlT
(does not have 2 additional Pride Weapons equipped)
https://imgur.com/tqqHUWk AND https://imgur.com/tYAeTgf

Light- https://imgur.com/uhLrOiA
(does not have 1 additional Large Defender Weapon equipped)
https://imgur.com/49cukEh

Dark- https://imgur.com/IgAUotP
(does not have 1 additional Large Assault, Small Defender Dual Weapon equipped)
https://imgur.com/5rX8qZL

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05-15-2018, 02:57 AM
Sounds interesting. Here goes my weapon grids;

WATER
72% Assault (includes 2 Pride Weapons). 20% Defender.
5 SSR weapons (no dual), 5 SR weapons.
Why, oh why, do I make the mistake of grind all Jack Frost and not getting the weapon also? One of my many mistakes on the game.

DARK
72% Assault (includes 1 Pride Weapon). 31% Defender.
6 SSR weapons (1 dual), 4 SR weapons.
The number of SSR can mislead; many of them are with no stars or only one star, meaning is not so good a grid.

FIRE
94% Assault (no Pride Weapon). 24% Defender.
3 SSR Weapons (no dual), 7 SR Weapons.
Is not easy being a Fire main with the absolute lack of fire events, but I do what I can.

THUNDER
61% Assault (1 Pride Weapon). 30% Defender.
5 SSR Weapons (no dual), 4 SR Weapons. 1 off Element
Strange grid indeed. The only one where I have a Soul exclusive weapon (D'artagnan HP weapon), but also the only one where still have one off element; Saint Nicholas sword.

LIGHT
71% Assault (1 Pride Weapon). 29% Defender.
8 SSR Weapons (3 dual). 2 SR Weapons.
I am really tired of so many light events, but at least I have a good weapon selections. Must work a little more on the skills level.

WIND
75% Assault (1 Pride Weapon). 22% Defender.
5 SSR Weapons (2 dual). 5 SR Weapons.
I have Azazel weapon with 1 Star, but with Meng Huo Sword and the duals ones ( Kyuki bow and SSR Cybeles weapon), it have no spot on the grid.

On general, not exactly a bad grid, but still needs more love. Fire, oh fire events, where you are??...:sad:

blubbergott
05-15-2018, 03:23 AM
Alright, these are my grids sorted by strongest ->weakest. I already count the base assault of pride weapons into assault, so 1 pride just means one additional pride effect with the 10% (if maxed) already added to assault.

Light: 124% assault, 52% defender, 1 pride
Water: 124.5% assault, 23% defender, 2 pride (one slvl 9 placeholder SR)
Fire: 123% assault, 8% defender (slvl 4 amaterasu staff as placeholder - fire events when?)
Dark: 51.5% assault, 27% defender (1 off ele)
Wind: 53.5% assault, 6% defender, 1 pride (2 off ele - this will most likely be the next one I'll work on)
Thunder: 7.5% assault, 14.5% defender, 2 pride (5 off ele - not gonna touch this until the other 5 are done)


For reference, I've been playing since late November/early December (the first event I actually participated in was Jack Frost). Started out as a light main and am gradually expanding to other elements.

Spreadsheet with my exact setup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1zuBcbcJbJ3x86iB20HaCUEZ9PAbDLWqO-ByrX0mnMyU/edit#gid=0

don't wanna leave screenshots for everything, so here's just my light grid:

10112

MagicSpice
05-15-2018, 03:33 AM
Spreadsheet with my exact setup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1zuBcbcJbJ3x86iB20HaCUEZ9PAbDLWqO-ByrX0mnMyU/edit#gid=0

don't wanna leave screenshots for everything, so here's just my light grid:

10112

you know what... i forgot those spreadsheets existed....

also, the screenshot thing is a bit of a bother cause you can only upload 5 per post at max so you're stuck to using imgur or something otherwise

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05-15-2018, 03:38 AM
Alright, these are my grids sorted by strongest ->weakest. I already count the base assault of pride weapons into assault, so 1 pride just means one additional pride effect with the 10% (if maxed) already added to assault.

Light: 124% assault, 52% defender, 1 pride
Water: 124.5% assault, 23% defender, 2 pride (one slvl 9 placeholder SR)
Fire: 123% assault, 8% defender (slvl 4 amaterasu staff as placeholder - fire events when?)
Dark: 51.5% assault, 27% defender (1 off ele)
Wind: 53.5% assault, 6% defender, 1 pride (2 off ele - this will most likely be the next one I'll work on)
Thunder: 7.5% assault, 14.5% defender, 2 pride (5 off ele - not gonna touch this until the other 5 are done)


For reference, I've been playing since late November/early December (the first event I actually participated in was Jack Frost). Started out as a light main and am gradually expanding to other elements.

Spreadsheet with my exact setup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1zuBcbcJbJ3x86iB20HaCUEZ9PAbDLWqO-ByrX0mnMyU/edit#gid=0

don't wanna leave screenshots for everything, so here's just my light grid:

10112

Pretty impressive grid. I begin like a month before and I am far behind. How do you have so much on fire, the element with no right to events?

blubbergott
05-15-2018, 04:13 AM
Pretty impressive grid. I begin like a month before and I am far behind. How do you have so much on fire, the element with no right to events?

Disaster weapons. Wish I had Mars or Dakki, really could use some dual skills. Currently my fire is pretty much a glass cannon.

10113

Kitty
05-15-2018, 04:45 AM
Fire - 120% Assault/ 0% Defender
Water - 102% Assault/ 19% Defender
Wind - 107% Assault/ 12% Defender
Thunder - 91% Assault/ 14% Defender
Dark - 110% Assault/ 19% Defender
Light - 105% Assault/ 21% Defender

PervertFrVN
05-15-2018, 04:58 AM
Ppl complain about fire event and their fire grid is the strongest...

Kitty
05-15-2018, 05:03 AM
pff--fire event

i just want more raids so I can get more tickets and jewels, then more dark events so I can replace my non MLB weps :bgrin:

blubbergott
05-15-2018, 05:26 AM
Ppl complain about fire event and their fire grid is the strongest...

Damn right I'm complaining about fire events. Ever since I started playing 5.5 months ago, there was 1 fire event, one! Compared to that, in that timeframe we had: 6 water, 4 thunder, 3 light, 2 dark and 2 wind events. If you started at that time and wanted to max out a fire grid, you'd need 7 disaster assaults (minus any gacha weapons you have). Dark and wind weren't much better, but at least each of them got a double skill SSR (Amphis/Kyuki).

AutoCrimson
05-15-2018, 05:31 AM
actually, fire assault level by itself only shows skills on weapon. u can technically just add 10 disaster non-lb SR assault with lvl 40 and slvl 20, and have 100%+ grid w/o any fire event

Delete
05-15-2018, 05:37 AM
Yeah, for those who have main fire the patience runs thin. Too much waiting. But is still the main element, so we try hard to have a good grid.

nonsensei
05-15-2018, 05:50 AM
Yeah, might be a good idea to include the overall stats displayed above the grid.
Gonna use the following template:

Element: HP/Atk/assault%/defender% (including pride into assault with 10% value at SL20)

Fire: 1062/18353/123%/16%

Water: 975/20170/120%/29%

Wind: 959/18459/114%/13% (30% elemental bonus from SL20 Arthur sword)

Thunder: 881/18203/117%/30% (30% defender is from SL20 d'Art hp gun)

Light: 1440/20720/127%/65%

Dark: 1046/19175/114%/42%

Shieun
05-15-2018, 06:29 AM
Well, since I only have 2 maybe 3 grids with acceptable assault % will just list those as the rest are pretty much non-existent

Element: HP/Atk/Ass%/Def%
Fire: 1110/18761/119%/0%
Water: 1312/21085/112%/22%
Dark: 1094/17741/80%/22%

Kimoi
05-15-2018, 07:33 AM
Why not? Just finished SLing my last SR, too.

Fire: 1504 HP / 19530 ATK / 120% assault / 16% defender / 1 pride
Thunder: 946 HP / 19184 ATK / 104% assault / 46% defender / 2 pride
Wind: 1059 HP / 19205 ATK / 111% assault / 29% defender / 2 pride
Water: 1023 HP / 20662 ATK / 120% assault / 26% defender / 2 pride
Dark: 1126 HP / 19332 ATK / 104% assault / 45% defender / 1 pride
Light: 958 HP / 20284 ATK / 130% assault / 23% defender / 1 pride

https://imgur.com/a/aGZu4AZ

JStar
05-15-2018, 08:00 AM
Might as well.

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Slashley
05-15-2018, 08:27 AM
My stats are pretty much public in the damage calc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=39423565) I made, which also hosts a place for weapon grids.

Note: I slap Prides as 6% Assault, so these values are only valid for Hime at 70% HP left. Reduce 6-12% per element for 100% HP.
126% 18636 Atk + 16% HP Fire
126% 20409 Atk + 24% HP Water
139% 18461 Atk + 29% HP Wind
126% 20514 Atk + 30% HP Thunder
108% 17657 Atk + 29% HP Dark
Nope% Nope Atk + Nope% HP Light

Dark grid isn't done yet, the rest are complete. Water needs some upgrades once Dark is finished, I'll get to replace a Defender weapon with a level 50 dual-skill. That'll cost me ~1000 base Atk, but 10% more Assault is a ridiculous boost. Tiamat's Bow will also get to replace some SR, that'll also be 3% more Assault and ~500 base Atk gain.

And before somebody asks, I don't have any Light Hime, so with no team there's no point in me investing in Light grid. I'll do it once all the other grids are tiptop.

bigblackcock
05-15-2018, 08:48 AM
i know it's holdin me back, but don't feel like getting the skill level of SR weapon with low attack to level 20SL as they'll be the first ones to get replaced later.
anyway, my grids:
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Kimoi
05-15-2018, 08:51 AM
i know it's holdin me back, but don't feel like getting the skill level of SR weapon with low attack to level 20SL as they'll be the first ones to get replaced later.
That's how I felt at first -- especially concerning disaster weapons -- but after a few months doing daily gemcha you simply run out of things to level.
FLB might change that, but that's four months in the future.

Laventale
05-15-2018, 09:37 AM
Damn right I'm complaining about fire events. Ever since I started playing 5.5 months ago, there was 1 fire event, one! Compared to that, in that timeframe we had: 6 water, 4 thunder, 3 light, 2 dark and 2 wind events. If you started at that time and wanted to max out a fire grid, you'd need 7 disaster assaults (minus any gacha weapons you have). Dark and wind weren't much better, but at least each of them got a double skill SSR (Amphis/Kyuki).

Exactly this, we haven't got a single original Fire event since FUCKING UNION EVENT THAT HAPPENED MORE THAN HALF A YEAR AGO!!!11!1 WHAT THE FUCK?

We aren't so far from 3 back to back Fire events, but I'm still waiting to be quite honest.

MagicSpice
05-15-2018, 02:18 PM
meanwhile i'm glad we're getting light events as a light main...

i could use some replacements for my strictly defender weapons.

except we may not get that one crossover event now....

also, i have no motivation to beef up my water grid much now cause even if i did, my hime selection on that is honestly kind of crap compared to the others.. easily my weakest by a landslide, especially considering my dark hime (who is working with the least assault right now) can do as much damage as my fire and light grids at times... which have the most

also, SCREW THOSE DAMN DISASTERS! BEEN GRINDING FOR MONTHS AND I ALWAYS GET DEFENDER SR DROPS! I'M DONE GRINDING THOSE!

Cobblemaniac
05-15-2018, 07:35 PM
meanwhile i'm glad we're getting light events as a light main...

i could use some replacements for my strictly defender weapons.

except we may not get that one crossover event now....

also, i have no motivation to beef up my water grid much now cause even if i did, my hime selection on that is honestly kind of crap compared to the others.. easily my weakest by a landslide, especially considering my dark hime (who is working with the least assault right now) can do as much damage as my fire and light grids at times... which have the most

also, SCREW THOSE DAMN DISASTERS! BEEN GRINDING FOR MONTHS AND I ALWAYS GET DEFENDER SR DROPS! I'M DONE GRINDING THOSE!

If it helps any... the ulti disasters pretty much drop only the SR assaults.

MagicSpice
05-15-2018, 08:04 PM
If it helps any... the ulti disasters pretty much drop only the SR assaults.

hah..... FML....

my water team has no hope right now do they?

darkace51
05-25-2018, 06:56 PM
Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons. :sad:

Cobblemaniac
05-25-2018, 09:34 PM
Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons. :sad:

Bad news, your dark grid probably won't see the light of day (ironically) until either Envy reprint (if pride is what you want) or the Apocalypse reprint, the latter of which you get your first 4LB for a dark event weapon. I'm assuming the second event probably appeals to you better, but that ain't coming for 4.5 more months.

Kastro
05-25-2018, 11:43 PM
Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons. :sad:

I understand your pain. (all lv 20)

Slashley
05-26-2018, 07:40 AM
Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:
--Your grids are stronger than many who don't call themselves casuals... :sweat:

If you enjoy that much HP, then by all means. But it should be noted that each SSR Defender that you replace with a SR Assault, you'll gain roughly a ~10% damage boost. Which is no small deal. With dual-skill weapons providing more and more HP while still giving damage output, pure Defenders are often scrapped these days.

darkace51
05-26-2018, 04:50 PM
Your grids are stronger than many who don't call themselves casuals... :sweat:

If you enjoy that much HP, then by all means. But it should be noted that each SSR Defender that you replace with a SR Assault, you'll gain roughly a ~10% damage boost. Which is no small deal. With dual-skill weapons providing more and more HP while still giving damage output, pure Defenders are often scrapped these days.

Oh thanks. Yeah was planning on switching out the 3 SSR defenders with SSR dual skill weapons. Problem being the lack of dark events that give dual skill or assault weapons. Since I'm mostly f2p I really don't want to whale to get those gatcha dual skill weapons. I was lucky (kinda) I got 2 copies of the dark SSR assault bow, 2 copies of the dual skill Osiris weapon, and 3 copies of Satan's weapon from the jewel gatcha.

Laventale
05-26-2018, 05:08 PM
Been playing since kamihime started on nutaku but been mostly a causal f2p player:

Thunder: 1172 HP/ 20555 ATK/ 81% assault/ 64% defender/ 2 pride
Fire: 1197 HP/ 17783 ATK/ 103% assault/ 45% defender/ 1 pride
Wind: 1228 HP/ 19207 ATK/ 81% assault/ 48% defender/ 1 pride
Water: 1137 HP/ 19702 ATK/ 123% assault/ 29% defender/ 1 pride
Light: 1315 HP/ 20430 ATK/ 133% assault/ 23% defender/ 2 pride
Dark: 1727 HP/ 21087 ATK/ 110% assault/ 61% defender/ 1 pride

It's been so painful trying to upgrade my dark grid, it feels like I have been hitting a wall with my dark weapon grid for a while now. The only way I can see that grid improving is if I whale for dual SSR weapons. :sad:

I don't really think you need two Defender weapons, with Amphis and one Defender is more than enough.

You should really consider upgrading your grid with, at least, one SR attacker weapon.

Slashley
05-26-2018, 05:34 PM
Oh thanks. Yeah was planning on switching out the 3 SSR defenders with SSR dual skill weapons. Problem being the lack of dark events that give dual skill or assault weapons. Since I'm mostly f2p I really don't want to whale to get those gatcha dual skill weapons.--That's why I said "SR"
Farm dem Disasters.

darkace51
05-26-2018, 07:23 PM
That's why I said "SR"
Farm dem Disasters.


I don't really think you need two Defender weapons, with Amphis and one Defender is more than enough.

You should really consider upgrading your grid with, at least, one SR attacker weapon.

Well I also run a 55% Echidna and usually an Amphis with that setup. I once tried experimenting with a 13% gatcha SR assault but found the ~8% more damage from replacing the SSR defender weapon with a SR assault weapon really didn't trump the over 15k HP from having the 2 SSR defender weapons. I just find the setup with a SR less forgiving of failure than my current setup, since my kamihimes could eat the raging AC4 overdrive 2 hits in a row (3 hits in a row if I applied all the buffs and debuffs) and still have enough HP to survive being double hit afterwards. The same thing applies to the higher level ultimate battles where usually bad rage management gets me killed with the SR but the defender SSR give me enough room to recover, maybe if I were a better player or didn't auto battle the SR might be better but from my experience I usually survive failure or unexpected events better with my current build.

Good to know that I can expect to improve my grid within next 5 months though.

MagicSpice
05-26-2018, 08:15 PM
Well I also run a 55% Echidna and usually an Amphis with that setup. I once tried experimenting with a 13% gatcha SR assault but found the ~8% more damage from replacing the SSR defender weapon with a SR assault weapon really didn't trump the over 15k HP from having the 2 SSR defender weapons. I just find the setup with a SR less forgiving of failure than my current setup, since my kamihimes could eat the raging AC4 overdrive 2 hits in a row (3 hits in a row if I applied all the buffs and debuffs) and still have enough HP to survive being double hit afterwards. The same thing applies to the higher level ultimate battles where usually bad rage management gets me killed with the SR but the defender SSR give me enough room to recover, maybe if I were a better player or didn't auto battle the SR might be better but from my experience I usually survive failure or unexpected events better with my current build.

Good to know that I can expect to improve my grid within next 5 months though.

i did always say that all that attack power isn't good if you can't withstand the damage you take... (my fire team is still likely to die given my only non-soul heals are bryhildr, RNG drain from dakki, and sakuya's pathetic 500 HP heals.... and they're packing about 6k base HP while my other teams all have 8k-11k)

fire might be able to get away with that (they get the most out of an assault heavy setup), but the other elements either cut it too close or can't pull it off... especially for those lacking the "key SSR"

gonna need a decent mix of atk and HP until you can start getting dual weapons that give both (or just good dual stuff period like the light staff from the lilim event). given the nature of this game and how random it is throwing stuff at you, the best setup is to "do what works best for you" since you easily might not have what others do

Slashley
07-13-2018, 02:28 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand done. All six grids are now 10x slvl20.

Much work still remains of course, like I haven't upgraded Tiamat Bow yet. I could get started on Fire, Water and Thunder Herc weapons. And I'll probably go ahead and level up one of the Water SSR Hime dual-skill weapons for more HP in my Water team.

MagicSpice
07-13-2018, 08:49 PM
I'm making progress on my light grid....


https://i.imgur.com/Ak0NXjX.jpg


I probably should get to grinding Relic Weapons soon... especially with Shingen on the horizon for me (finally....).

i can already get somewhat of a burst setup for wind... (using cybele u, cu chulainn, hastur, and wind ramiel). possibly one with fire too given Dakki, Awk Ares, and Awk Svarog (and maybe one for water as well given Aphrodite and Atalanta)

MagicSpice
08-04-2018, 10:37 AM
Capped the Defender on my Light grid, nearly capped the Assault, and reworked some accessories (I definitely need replacements though).


Full details here, but this is more than good enough for now:


https://i.imgur.com/l54fnYw.jpg