[Event 56] Advent Battle vs Phoenix (Rematch)

[Kitty]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/484853068073271296/anubis.png?width=700&height=800
aaayyyy wassup fucKers it's finally FINALLY time (I can finally mlb my phoenix bow holy fuck)

UH anyway let's get to the easy ass battles.

Ult/Rag - Normal Overdrive gives herself regen/heal and self DEF buff,
Raging Overdrive just gives herself regen/heal and self ATK buff (She has a 3T CD)

Here's a longer, more in-depth battle from the first event -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I573HyrQOxo

...and then on how stupidly easy it is this time around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH8hnxkX8T8

Battles aside, as they're too easy to write much about. (more info here http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E9%B3%B3%E5%87%B0%E9%99%8D%E8%87%A8%E6% 88%A6)

We will finally be getting a restock in Phoenix shop... though we did before, but that was just a fuck up on Nutaku's part... lucky for some though, as this time they'll be getting their 3rd or maybe even 4th MLB copy of Phoenix' Bow, as well as her new SSR weapon "Golden Wing Sacred Mallet".
.. and of course, the 3K jewels, tickets, etc.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/484851941667635237/unknown.png?width=1025&height=145

Event Mission

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/484852157221306390/unknown.png?width=1025&height=266

New Kamihime/Eidolon

SSR Dark Kamihime - Chernobog
SSR Dark 100% Eidolon - Anubis
SR Dark Kamihime - Veles
R Dark Kamihime - Mokosh


eeeyyy ye boiii this event is gonna be
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uh ah fuck theres a union event aafter it man fuck that

[Unregistered]

I don't care about that Bow.
I am more interested in Chernobog, gonna use 57k jews for her.
Seriously, I can't wait for that waifu anymore.

[Slashley]

I don't care about that Bow.
I am more interested in Chernobog, gonna use 57k jews for her.
Seriously, I can't wait for that waifu anymore.Good luck with that, your chances are below 20%. So if you had five accounts doing those pulls, maybe one of them would pull her.

Have fun!

[Unregistered]

Good luck with that, your chances are below 20%. So if you had five accounts doing those pulls, maybe one of them would pull her.

Have fun!

Get back in your hole you RAT.
I don't care about your numbers, you are just annoying.
It's still RNG, if I have luck I get if not then I will MTix or whale anyway.

Anyway I don't need your fucking explanation, it's still gambling.

[Slashley]

Well, have fun using your Miracle Ticket on Chemobog in ~three months, and missing out on [that other Hime you wanted], then! :angel:

[Unregistered]

Well, have fun using your Miracle Ticket on Chemobog in ~three months, and missing out on [that other Hime you wanted], then! :angel:

You on your Period?

What other Hime :think:
I have full SSR teams anyway.

[Unregistered]

Well, have fun using your Miracle Ticket on Chemobog in ~three months, and missing out on [that other Hime you wanted], then! :angel:

Lol.
Why shouldn't he use a Miracle Ticket for Chernobog?
Are you his mom?

[Unregistered]

Slashley was slashed. :joy:

[Delete]

Slashley is quite clearly burned with the way Gatchas work on the game, and rightfully so. It's his way of saying that the % are low, and will get lower and lower as more characters arrive. On the other hand, he can dial down a bit the sarcasm. :sweat:

[Unregistered]

Slashley is quite clearly burned with the way Gatchas work on the game, and rightfully so. It's his way of saying that the % are low, and will get lower and lower as more characters arrive. On the other hand, he can dial down a bit the sarcasm. :sweat:

I don't care about his bad luck.
Either you get her or not.
He should just shut up, if he has nothing to contribute.
Don't need his sarcasm.

[Kitty]

wouldn't be a forum without drama on every thread teehee

gl unregistered dude i'm sure you'll find her with that amount, i hope you get anubis too :kiss:

[Unregistered]

wouldn't be a forum without drama on every thread teehee

gl unregistered dude i'm sure you'll find her with that amount, i hope you get anubis too :kiss:

What Drama :think:
It's just Slashley being Slashley :joy:

Thank you Bro, that's what I want to hear :kiss:

[Cobblemaniac]

Get back in your hole you RAT.
I don't care about your numbers, you are just annoying.
It's still RNG, if I have luck I get if not then I will MTix or whale anyway.

Anyway I don't need your fucking explanation, it's still gambling.

The first interaction and you're already this aggressive.

Sheesh, I don't know what beef you have with Slash but this is uncalled for.

[Slashley]

--
He should just shut up, if he has nothing to contribute.
Don't need his sarcasm.I don't think you understand how bad the chances are in this game, and as such, there is plenty to contribute though.

I suppose some people would rather live with their heads in the clouds than their feet on the ground, I guess.

[Unregistered]

I don't think you understand how bad the chances are in this game, and as such, there is plenty to contribute though.

I suppose some people would rather live with their heads in the clouds than their feet on the ground, I guess.

You are just pesimistic, nothing more.
Why should I think that I will get her or not?
Never said it. You just came out with your fucking probability.

No need to think about it until she is out and tbh it's still luck.

Ofc you know that too, because your Mammon pull failed.
You just need to bring out your numbers to another players, because you didn't get that luck.

Furthermore... I can still just whale her anyway.
Just get your shit together.

[Laventale]

I love this place sometimes...

[x255]

Do we now have Nukaku/DMM employees shilling for their hentai casino here? ;)

"Odds shmodds, you just need luck! Don't be a boring sheepie! Just do it! And if you like it, just buy it!"

[Cobblemaniac]

Do we now have Nukaku/DMM employees shilling for their hentai casino here? ;)

"Odds shmodds, you just need luck! Don't be a boring sheepie! Just do it! And if you like it, just buy it!"

Dude, if you wanna steal my joke...

at least give me reputation for making it first

:smirk:

[bigblackcock]

i've thought to save my jewels for this event in case miracle ticket last this long, so i'll have a chance to get the SSR kami or anubis.
sadly, not gonna happen as it would expire in less than a week so trivia event is as far as i could drag that miracle ticket.

anyway, i'll try to get some extra regalia so i can FLB both bows, probably gonna sell the copies of pheonix and...the new SSR...i guess it can be a fodder or something :think:

[x255]

Dude, if you wanna steal my joke...

at least give me reputation for making it first

:smirk:

Sorry, I didn't know you was first to write about it, but I thought its really obvious :)

Anyway, even odds aside, IMO someone needs to be straight mark or having more money than sense to invest it into anything that Nutaku hosts. Since they are very well known by now for shutting down even popular games without much of recourse (and often with zilch compensation).
And when they do it, all these whales tell their super-rare-bought-with-many-dollars characters/stuff bye-bye. "No refunds, sorry, you had your fun! Now start rolling with a new one!". Happened before, you can bet it will happen again, sooner or later.

[Cobblemaniac]

Sorry, I didn't know you was first to write about it, but I thought its really obvious :)

Anyway, even odds aside, IMO someone needs to be straight mark or having more money than sense to invest it into anything that Nutaku hosts. Since they are very well known by now for shutting down even popular games without much of recourse (and often with zilch compensation).
And when they do it, all these whales tell their super-rare-bought-with-many-dollars characters/stuff bye-bye. "No refunds, sorry, you had your fun! Now start rolling with a new one!". Happened before, you can bet it will happen again, sooner or later.

Nah don't take it too seriously, I was joking.

Also... yeah unfortunately. I haven't heard many good things about nutaku hosting games. Fingers crossed it'll at least sustain till the next year or so though.

[Unregistered]

Welp, got to psych myself up for the endeavour that is getting an extra bow to drop, all for the sake of that 2x FLB phoenix bow dream. At least my half-elixir supply is ready for it.

[Cobblemaniac]

Welp, got to psych myself up for the endeavour that is getting an extra bow to drop, all for the sake of that 2x FLB phoenix bow dream. At least my half-elixir supply is ready for it.

Actually, the bow is way easier to get with the material nerfs now. The actual hard one to get is the HP and heal buff weapon, which almost no one will bother to get...

[Unregistered]

Actually, the bow is way easier to get with the material nerfs now. The actual hard one to get is the HP and heal buff weapon, which almost no one will bother to get...

FLB is already here with that Advent and "nobody" will get it...
Yea ofc, just ditch free SSR fodder to level that FLB weapon faster.
Nice idea. Good Job!

[Unregistered]

No no, I need the drop to complete the first bow; it's only at 2*.

Same applies to my Apocalypse lance, Garuda hammer, and Typhon lance. Phoenix/Apoc reprint was so damn early it was still running with the original exchange rates (and was before I could reliably farm ult). Garuda/Typhon reprint happened while I was busy being a tourist in Japan so I couldn't max those weapons then.
This damn stack of 1800 half-elixirs ought to produce at least one of the drops I'm looking for.

[Cobblemaniac]

FLB is already here with that Advent and "nobody" will get it...
Yea ofc, just ditch free SSR fodder to level that FLB weapon faster.
Nice idea. Good Job!

Actually, considering the cost of the 2nd advent weapon, I'd be hard pressed to consider not going for the weapon...

Granted I haven't actually done the calculations, but my gut feeling tells me the SSR weapon isn't worth the HEs, not even for skill ups.


No no, I need the drop to complete the first bow; it's only at 2*.

Same applies to my Apocalypse lance, Garuda hammer, and Typhon lance. Phoenix/Apoc reprint was so damn early it was still running with the original exchange rates (and was before I could reliably farm ult). Garuda/Typhon reprint happened while I was busy being a tourist in Japan so I couldn't max those weapons then.
This damn stack of 1800 half-elixirs ought to produce at least one of the drops I'm looking for.

Yikes, hope you get lucky.

How in the ever loving hell did you get 1.8k HEs tho?

[Itoshira]

I actually would argue depending on how your grid looks. Sure, it is a defender but atleast a ++. Also, 24% more healing power is not so bad (nearly 400 more heal for Andro and even more so in combination with AW Sol, not to mention her heal).

In addition, it compliments the heavy Assault focused Bow with 21% now at FLB (sure, I know 15% Defender aswell, but hear me out here). So, in my case with 4 dual Assault/Defender (St. Nic 2x, Spiral Lance, Abu Ru Haul) and NOT having Sol for example, the amount of HP I gain for secrificing 5% Assault is quite some value. Also, I like using Andro for example in DRag or other more surviving oriented content (GO), it gets more and more value while still having 100%+ Assault and 30% Elemental from Relic.

So....yea, if you have the room and can still replace SR in your grid, I think the weapon is worth it to have more sustain and longlivity. The total Phoenix package is 21% Assault, 31% Defender and 24% Ascension (Bow FLB SL 30 and Axe SL 20).

Edit: Oh, and the stats of the Axe are also not so shabby to ignore aswell.

[nonsensei]

Actually, considering the cost of the 2nd advent weapon, I'd be hard pressed to consider not going for the weapon...

Granted I haven't actually done the calculations, but my gut feeling tells me the SSR weapon isn't worth the HEs, not even for skill ups.

The concept isn't about it being worth or not. With FLBs around if you see a fod, you take it. No questions asked. (That is, if you are actively SLing your grids to keep it up to date).


In addition, it compliments the heavy Assault focused Bow with 21% now at FLB (sure, I know 15% Defender aswell, but hear me out here). So, in my case with 4 dual Assault/Defender (St. Nic 2x, Spiral Lance, Abu Ru Haul) and NOT having Sol for example, the amount of HP I gain for secrificing 5% Assault is quite some value. Also, I like using Andro for example in DRag or other more surviving oriented content (GO), it gets more and more value while still having 100%+ Assault and 30% Elemental from Relic.

You will have enough ascensions from the UE staff if you wanna go with heal memes. But switching out a weapon with assault skill for that 2nd weapon of Phoenix, you're sacrificing 10/13/16% assault, depending on the skill size, not 5%. And light has more than enough access to high hp, no need to go out of your way to equip another defender without assault effect.

[Unregistered]

Actually, considering the cost of the 2nd advent weapon, I'd be hard pressed to consider not going for the weapon...

Granted I haven't actually done the calculations, but my gut feeling tells me the SSR weapon isn't worth the HEs, not even for skill ups.


Oh dude...
What nonsensei said and have fun, because UE will give you 2x FLB weapons from now on, have fun to level those and your current ones.
You don't ask if it's worth you just take SSR fodder especially if it's a crap one.

[Unregistered]

The half-elixirs naturally accumulate over time if you have the schedule to allow for using as much natural regen as possible, thus allowing as many events as possible to add to your supply. So fundamentally, it's the trade-off of my real life time for this supply ever since launch.

I want to say that I had about 300 something HE's a year ago, so I think that I've gained 1400+ since then. That would line up with events becoming more generous with the loot as well as the anniversary update to the gem gacha.
Regarding gemcha, I typically pull 50-60 times each raid, union, and off day. I don't pull during advents. The reason being that I pull using the gems from the guerilla quests, as I'm normally available for the evening period (I'm in GMT -5). So I set aside 100 AP to do 4 expert runs, then use either 2 or 3 half-elixirs for another 4 or 6 runs, depending on how many I pulled earlier that day and how I'm doing time-wise. Usually it's 2 HEs for 8 runs that day. Over the long term, I see gain in my HE supply. But since my gemcha pulling is relatively quite reserved, my weapon grids are actually underdeveloped for someone playing as long as I have.

[Itoshira]

The 5% result out of switching out 2 Assault + (13%) for the two Phoenix weapons (and Pride is still a bit away). 26% - 21% (Phoenix Bow) = 5%

You are right if you count them seperatly, but in this case I was considering them as a pair mainly. And I also said, depending on your own Grid and probably what your Hime-Roster has to offer (I wasnt blessed with many defensive type Hime, so in order to not get constantly onto the brink of death I need some more HP to pull through).

[sanahtlig]

Also... yeah unfortunately. I haven't heard many good things about nutaku hosting games. Fingers crossed it'll at least sustain till the next year or so though.
KamiPro is popular, and more importantly, appears to be quite profitable judging from my survey. There's many incentives to spend and people do so liberally. As elemental advantage becomes an increasing focus we can expect SSR Kamihime Gatcha to increase in popularity. They're constantly coming up with new and innovative ways to part users with their money, such as Exclusive Gatcha.

A game's life expectancy can also be judged by the quality and timeliness of support provided. Major bugs are getting fixed quickly, often within a day of complaints. Towards end of life, support will diminish as cashflow dwindles and the company determines that those resources could be put to better use elsewhere.

Based on these indicators, I'd say the game has at least a year of life ahead of it, barring a major kerfuffle like DMM and Nutaku having a fall-out and Nutaku refusing to share their user database (so data could be migrated to new servers).

[Cobblemaniac]

The concept isn't about it being worth or not. With FLBs around if you see a fod, you take it. No questions asked. (That is, if you are actively SLing your grids to keep it up to date).



Oh dude...
What nonsensei said and have fun, because UE will give you 2x FLB weapons from now on, have fun to level those and your current ones.
You don't ask if it's worth you just take SSR fodder especially if it's a crap one.

In hindsight, "almost no one" is a pretty bad statement on my part, considering I up and forgot I myself said "SL2 SSR weapons alone could up SL29 to SL30".

That being said, I don't find maxing a 4LB weapon as tough as some would imagine. A sufficiently hardcore player currently (I define those as joining every ragna raid they see and clearing at least 4/6 of the elements every day) should be able to collect more than enough fodder for 1 or 2 skill ups per day, and that's notwithstanding the amount you get from events, especially raid events, where even the person who just clears the bare minimum could easily get 20-ish weapons out of the raid gacha.

A matter of patience in my eyes, but I do take back the statement on the SSR, one should definitely go for it.


KamiPro is popular, and more importantly, appears to be quite profitable judging from my survey. There's many incentives to spend and people do so liberally. As elemental advantage becomes an increasing focus we can expect SSR Kamihime Gatcha to increase in popularity. They're constantly coming up with new and innovative ways to part users with their money, such as Exclusive Gatcha.

A game's life expectancy can also be judged by the quality and timeliness of support provided. Major bugs are getting fixed quickly, often within a day of complaints. Towards end of life, support will diminish as cashflow dwindles and the company determines that those resources could be put to better use elsewhere.

Based on these indicators, I'd say the game has at least a year of life ahead of it, barring a major kerfuffle like DMM and Nutaku having a fall-out and Nutaku refusing to share their user database (so data could be migrated to new servers).

That last part confuses me kinda, I don't deal with corporate issues all that well. How does migrating data to new servers affect the game, and how is the game affected if nutaku refuses to?

[sanahtlig]

That last part confuses me kinda, I don't deal with corporate issues all that well. How does migrating data to new servers affect the game, and how is the game affected if nutaku refuses to?
I'm imagining a hypothetical scenario where DMM cuts relations with Nutaku. However, Nutaku presumably has the user/password information that allows users to be linked to their accounts (stored on Nutaku, DMM, or elsewhere). If Nutaku refused to share that, all progress would be lost, even if DMM were to host their own version of English KamiPro, and even if DMM had access to all the account data. In such a dispute, Nutaku would have no incentive to share this information; they could use it to blackmail DMM to agree to their terms.

[Cobblemaniac]

I'm imagining a hypothetical scenario where DMM cuts relations with Nutaku. However, Nutaku presumably has the user/password information that allows users to be linked to their accounts (stored on Nutaku, DMM, or elsewhere). If Nutaku refused to share that, all progress would be lost, even if DMM were to host their own version of English KamiPro, and even if DMM had access to all the account data. In such a dispute, Nutaku would have no incentive to share this information; they could use it to blackmail DMM to agree to their terms.

If we looked at it the other way, could DMM simply pull the plug regardless and continue to cater only to the JP audience?

[sanahtlig]

If we looked at it the other way, could DMM simply pull the plug regardless and continue to cater only to the JP audience?
Either way, the result is the same; the game we play could close without warning and all data would be lost. Presumably this won't happen while the game remains profitable, but the possibility always exists.

[Unregistered]

I wouldn't say easily get 20+ weapons from raid gacha. I've never rolled anywhere that many with the ~800-900 tickets I have from 225+/100 souls each raid event.

[QXZ]

Either way, the result is the same; the game we play could close without warning and all data would be lost. Presumably this won't happen while the game remains profitable, but the possibility always exists.

thats the shitty thing about online / mobile games - there is no data saved on your local machine. you don't actually own the game, merely an invitation to play. the vendor can take your money and shut down the next day. which is why we should only stick to the big titles and names that we can trust.

[Laventale]

RIP Trivia.

/pinned

[Amak]

If one has decent light eidos(Nicholas,Barong), decent thunder (Amalthea), does Pheonix have any worth as an eidolon or it goes straight into the orb shop after collecting the jewels from it?

[AutoCrimson]

considering the nature of Fluffy, i'd let Phoenix occupy one slot of inventory

well, thats "what if" situation, since the odds of drawing Fluffy (if ure f2p) are pretty low

however, st.Terrorist, Barong, Heca and Archangel are better, imo..

[nervehammer]

This event was long awaited for Light mains such as myself :grin:

[Itoshira]

The Problem with Phoenix is that is has really low stats. So only in a case of "I got a Fluffy for myself" or not having a other 40% Eidolon, you could consider her. She is the 2nd worse Light Eido to date, so if you are playing longer chances are you dont even use her in Sub aswell cause besides Sakura, every other Eidolon is better (yes, even Lilim).

If you are not having a 40% Eido for Thunder, it could be considered taking her in for that Element aswell. Otherwise, you probably just gonna feed her into the Eido Shop for good.

[VeryVoodoo]

If one has decent light eidos(Nicholas,Barong), decent thunder (Amalthea), does Pheonix have any worth as an eidolon or it goes straight into the orb shop after collecting the jewels from it?

Back when she first came out, she was good as she offered element↑ in both Light and Thunder. Thunder only recently got its 45%↑ , so she may even have been serviceable up till then. But now with the abundance of 45%↑s in every element, she's really just a relic of the past. So yea, feel free to sell (especially since even her summon effect isn't particularly useful).

[Seraphim01]

Should i skip this eidolon as well? (2 weeks old player). My eido right now are hraes, MLB trivia, LB1 horus and 3 LB0 horus.

[nut]

Should i skip this eidolon as well? (2 weeks old player). My eido right now are hraes, MLB trivia, LB1 horus and 3 LB0 horus.

You dont have full edio yet so if you can get her, go get her, she offer 40% attack on 2 elements you missed and you can always sell her later. If you skip her you'll have to wait 8-10 weeks for another thunder and light eidos or spent eido orbs

[sanahtlig]

New players shouldn't be passing up cheap maxed limit break SSR eidolons. Any LV100 SSR is going to be a significant upgrade over a LV40 Horus.

[Seraphim01]

How hard is ultimate compare to expert tier? The difficulty spike alot for each tier...How much hp/atk needed before i try ultimate tier?

Btw, ragnarok tier dun need ap, does it mean we can spam it?

[Aidoru]

How hard is ultimate compare to expert tier? The difficulty spike alot for each tier...How much hp/atk needed before i try ultimate tier?

Btw, ragnarok tier dun need ap, does it mean we can spam it?

I can't really say how difficult the gap is as it's hard for players who have leveled grids to notice any difficulties in advent events as many can just auto them but I want to say if you can clear the walkure romanze ultimate, you should be able to do so with this one. Best way is to just try it out yourself.

As for ragnarok, you can only run it once a day. If you get on early enough after the maintenance finishes, you can often get in another attempt before the reset. It's the most difficult level for advent events but they're much easier than trying to solo a raid event ragnarok. Even if you don't think you can clear it yet, it doesn't cost anything to run so you can always just get in an attempt. Though if you're not clearing ultimate, don't expect to clear ragnarok.

[Seraphim01]

I can't really say how difficult the gap is as it's hard for players who have leveled grids to notice any difficulties in advent events as many can just auto them but I want to say if you can clear the walkure romanze ultimate, you should be able to do so with this one. Best way is to just try it out yourself.

As for ragnarok, you can only run it once a day. If you get on early enough after the maintenance finishes, you can often get in another attempt before the reset. It's the most difficult level for advent events but they're much easier than trying to solo a raid event ragnarok. Even if you don't think you can clear it yet, it doesn't cost anything to run so you can always just get in an attempt. Though if you're not clearing ultimate, don't expect to clear ragnarok.

Ok, thx aidoru.

[miguelsalvador81]

Does anyone else can't complete quest "defeat Ultimate Phoenix using only Light Kamihimes and Soul"?

The game didnt give me the reward from yesterday and from today either.

[Itoshira]

It's once again a translation bug.

You have to use a Water team for that quest.

[Amak]

Is the hammer pure fodder or worth saving?

[sanahtlig]

How hard is ultimate compare to expert tier? The difficulty spike alot for each tier...How much hp/atk needed before i try ultimate tier?

Btw, ragnarok tier dun need ap, does it mean we can spam it?
Advent Ultimates are usually doable ~30k ATK on the main screen. Obviously character ATK, elemental ATK, and debuff access will play a large role too. Ultimates aren't THAT much harder than Expert because you have more time to build Burst gauge for the final encounter.

[th3 fr4gil3]

How hard is ultimate compare to expert tier? The difficulty spike alot for each tier...How much hp/atk needed before i try ultimate tier?

For me personally i just facerolled over Phoenix ult with my light team so easier than Sakura imo. that said I am 40k and up in all elements but only my fire is +100% atk rest are 60ish so your mileage may vary.

[Dunhere]

It's once again a translation bug.

Has Nutaku gotten even one of those right yet?

[Unregistered]

IIRC, their overall accuracy rate on this subject was better earlier.

[Unregistered]

Uninformed scrub here. What is a “Final Limit Break”, and what do you need to perform it? All I see is it gives it more base stats and a new skill... do I need another weapon or something to break the uncap limit, or just mats? I keep seeing people mention getting multiple bows, is that just because this is a rerun, and they refilled the stock? I feel like this is something basic, but I don’t see an explanation.

[Slashley]

You need a level 125 SSR weapon with skill level 20. Not all weapons have FLB, however.
You only need the mats.
People who are FLBing multiple bows had one MLB from the previous Phoenix and bought another one from this one.

[Unregistered]

You need a level 125 SSR weapon with skill level 20. Not all weapons have FLB, however.
You only need the mats.
People who are FLBing multiple bows had one MLB from the previous Phoenix and bought another one from this one.
That’s a long way off for me, dang. Thanks for answering my question.

[Slashley]

-- All I see is it gives it more base stats and a new skill... --Oh shit, I missed this one, actually.

It gives more base stats (since level cap turns to level 150), a second skill (usually, or upgrades a skill) and more skill level cap. So Phoenix bow goes from 2106 Atk with 16% Assault to 2317 Atk with 21% Assault AND 15% HP. That's preeeeetty damn good.

[Seraphim01]

Advent Ultimates are usually doable ~30k ATK on the main screen. Obviously character ATK, elemental ATK, and debuff access will play a large role too. Ultimates aren't THAT much harder than Expert because you have more time to build Burst gauge for the final encounter.

Ok, i will increasing my atk to 30k before trying ultimate. Thx sana.

[sanahtlig]

Ok, i will increasing my atk to 30k before trying ultimate. Thx sana.
Honestly I would give it your best shot now and see how you do. We didn't have +100% eidolons or Soul weapons back then. It'll probably be easier for you.

[Seraphim01]

Hell yeah, i beat ultimate. Farming mats should be alot faster now.

[Mraktar]

Hell yeah, i beat ultimate. Farming mats should be alot faster now.

As i can see, Phoenix is one of the easiest advents (maybe second after Ixion).
Eydo unfortunately is just a cheap 750 orbs, nothing more if you have at least Amaru/Barong.

edit: yes, Kaisers and Tiamat (if needed) are the only things in shop worth picking

[Unregistered]

As i can see, Phoenix is one of the easiest advents (maybe second after Ixion).
Eydo unfortunately is just a cheap 750 orbs, nothing more if you have at least Amaru/Barong.

what are you talking...?
"cheap" 750 orbs, you mean 750 orbs less to get a new Kaiser.

[Seraphim01]

What!!! Ultimate tier can drop platinum chest, got sr gear from that chest. Can we get ssr eido/gear from platinum chest?

[x255]

Actually, any tier can drop platinum chest - but chance of it are so miniscule that sometimes you don't see it once during whole events.
Sometimes you may get lucky, and yes, they do drop SSR - but chance of it even more infinitesimal.

[QXZ]

anyone wanna comment on whether there is any point to getting MLB Phoenix? or should i donate her to the Eidolon shop? (i main light)

[Unregistered]

Either you have Managarmr and need light eidolons in your sub slots
Or you're lacking a 40%+ thunder eidolon and thus Phoenix can fulfill that role until Tartarus

Although as far as potentially rolling Managarmr goes, there's no harm in holding onto a maxed Phoenix for the time being, until post... Nandi or Adou?
There's no difference between realized and unrealized 750 orbs until you've actually hit the 10k for a kaiser dragoon. Unless you're really desperate for inventory slots, but that's really hard to do with eidolons.

[QXZ]

or alternatively i can use the material for books. which i do need.

[Unregistered]

You don't get enough books through raid and union events?

[QXZ]

i have a ton of SR himes stuck at 3 star. need a lotta silver books.

[Seraphim01]

Actually, any tier can drop platinum chest - but chance of it are so miniscule that sometimes you don't see it once during whole events.
Sometimes you may get lucky, and yes, they do drop SSR - but chance of it even more infinitesimal.

I see, thx for the explanation. Too bad i cant try ragnarok, need lvl 50 first haha.

[sanahtlig]

i have a ton of SR himes stuck at 3 star. need a lotta silver books.
I keep most of my SRs at 3 stars. I only 4-star the ones I use regularly or that get an upgrade to a particularly useful ability at 65.

[nut]

Is the hammer better than SR Assault disaster?

[Cobblemaniac]

Is the hammer better than SR Assault?

Nope.

10 characters

[Seraphim01]

Nope.

10 characters

So, its save to skip it? I am getting the bow though haha.

[Cobblemaniac]

So, its save to skip it? I am getting the bow though haha.

If you can afford it, get it. It's quite a potent skill level enhance material, although you should really only be saving it for past SL25+.

[Dunhere]

So, its save to skip it? I am getting the bow though haha.

It is safe to skip it. If you have enough materials lying around after buying everything else, you can buy it for fodder as suggested above.

[nut]

It is safe to skip it. If you have enough materials lying around after buying everything else, you can buy it for fodder as suggested above.

Also remember to save some mats for flb the bow later

[Unregistered]

how do some people get two MLB bows? there is only 4 copies in the shop?

[Slashley]

how do some people get two MLB bows? there is only 4 copies in the shop?They were playing previously, the shop was reset for this. The event ran before on March 2017 and June 2017. So players who were strong enough to farm Ultimate over a year ago are now grabbing and FLBing a second copy of the Bow. At best, some players might've gotten lucky drops from all three runs, and are FLBing a third Bow - but those players will be extremely rare.

... wait, didn't Phoenix reprint have something strange "Nutaku original" to it and you could get a couple of extra copies of the Bow... I forget.

There's the Encyclopedia (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) which shows timelines like this, though it's not being maintained anymore.

[bobbymurdock]

Hi everyone. New players for two weeks now. I have made my way to expert of trivia and phoenix and made a correct team but am facing a pretty big wall. The dire need of elixirs ( level 45 atm )
From what i have seen in all my gemcha i didn't get much of them.
It seems that trading them in the eido shop seems the best way but i'd like to know where you farm eidos or where you farm half elixirs to be able to farm efficiently ?
Thanks for your answers and good game.

[Laventale]

Hi everyone. New players for two weeks now. I have made my way to expert of trivia and phoenix and made a correct team but am facing a pretty big wall. The dire need of elixirs ( level 45 atm )
From what i have seen in all my gemcha i didn't get much of them.
It seems that trading them in the eido shop seems the best way but i'd like to know where you farm eidos or where you farm half elixirs to be able to farm efficiently ?
Thanks for your answers and good game.

Just do gemcha, that's the most reliable way to get Elixirs, I'm floating between 200 and 250 everytime, I spend like 50 to 100 daily and it never goes down.

Be sure to do Gem caves every single day.

[bobbymurdock]

Just do gemcha, that's the most reliable way to get Elixirs, I'm floating between 200 and 250 everytime, I spend like 50 to 100 daily and it never goes down.

Be sure to do Gem caves every single day.

Yeah i saw here that cave was a must do. So i guess it was pure bad luck because i did a lot with privia's event but didn't get much of it. I will give it another try.

[Aidoru]

The eidolon shop is the best place. You can buy an unlimited amount of elixirs from it. Sure it might take a bit longer to get the kaiser dragons but it's not like saving orbs in your state for a single kaiser is going to change anything, especially if you can't even progress to begin with, and it's not like the kaiser dragons are going anywhere.

Also make sure you bought all the elixirs in the advent shop for the current event too, they're cheap and help a bit.

Gem gacha is an option but it's not a resource that you will use to gain a lot of elixirs because you'll be using those elixirs to counterbalance all the gems you burned getting the few you'll end up getting. I'm not expecting you to have enough gems to be pulling 100k gems worth a day if you're that new either. I'm rank 125 and even I'm struggling to stay above 1mil gem as I can't make it to every gem quest and it doesn't help more awakenings and final breaks are coming out.

Last case scenario, you can run story mode inbetween events for story materials to exchange in the shop for elixirs.

[bobbymurdock]

The eidolon shop is the best place. You can buy an unlimited amount of elixirs from it. Sure it might take a bit longer to get the kaiser dragons but it's not like saving orbs in your state for a single kaiser is going to change anything, especially if you can't even progress to begin with, and it's not like the kaiser dragons are going anywhere.

Also make sure you bought all the elixirs in the advent shop for the current event too, they're cheap and help a bit.

Gem gacha is an option but it's not a resource that you will use to gain a lot of elixirs because you'll be using those elixirs to counterbalance all the gems you burned getting the few you'll end up getting. I'm not expecting you to have enough gems to be pulling 100k gems worth a day if you're that new either. I'm rank 125 and even I'm struggling to stay above 1mil gem as I can't make it to every gem quest and it doesn't help more awakenings and final breaks are coming out.

Last case scenario, you can run story mode inbetween events for story materials to exchange in the shop for elixirs.

Thanks for your precise answer.
That was exactly what i was thinking. As for orb shop i will wait better days to gather big amounts of orbs and take the kaisers.

From now, as i need enough elixir, the unlimited part of the eido shop was my main idea.
Now come the question : considering 2 elixirs cost 50 orbs and that a R eido sells for two, where do you guys farm these R eidos ? Story, gemcha, events ?

[Slashley]

From Gem Gacha.

There isn't really any reason to play Story after you get Cybele, or maybe Baal if you really want.

And there isn't really a shortcut to becoming strong in Kamihime (unless you open your wallet). It simply takes time. Events are what get you stronger, and it'll take you several events before you can start properly farming them.

[nut]

Just do gemcha, that's the most reliable way to get Elixirs, I'm floating between 200 and 250 everytime, I spend like 50 to 100 daily and it never goes down.

Be sure to do Gem caves every single day.

Wait, you got around 50 HEs daily with gemcha? f my luck then :cry:, I just got 2 HEs from gemcha

[AutoCrimson]

50 HE daily from 100k gemcha is... 35 is what i get mostly

[Seraphim01]

Cleared phoenix ragnarok, looks like i got lucky with charm haha.

[Unregistered]

They were playing previously, the shop was reset for this. The event ran before on March 2017 and June 2017. So players who were strong enough to farm Ultimate over a year ago are now grabbing and FLBing a second copy of the Bow. At best, some players might've gotten lucky drops from all three runs, and are FLBing a third Bow - but those players will be extremely rare.

... wait, didn't Phoenix reprint have something strange "Nutaku original" to it and you could get a couple of extra copies of the Bow... I forget.


The way I remember it, there was an extra copy at max price.
Keep in mind that Phoenix/Apocalypse reprint was still using the original rates, not the revision that came with Ixion, despite running after Ixion. So that extra copy wasn't for 100/75/60 mats. It was for the 120/90/70 rate.
The revision that came with Ixion of course isn't anywhere near as drastic as the Illuyanka event change, but it was still noticable at the time. Original rate was 455/255/215 to max the eidolon and 285/205/145 to max the weapon. From Ixion up until right before Illuyanka it'd be 375/210/150 for the eidolon and 260/165/125 for the weapon.

Phoenix/Apocalypse was also early enough that I still couldn't reliably farm ultimate yet. IIRC, from that reprint, I only moved up from 1* Phoenix Bow and Apoc Lance to 2*. Probably bumped the eidolons up 1* each as well. This was early enough for us such that even DMM was still pre-Guild Order, so we didn't have the knowledge to set up weapons for FLBing later.

[Unregistered]

The way I remember it, there was an extra copy at max price.
Keep in mind that Phoenix/Apocalypse reprint was still using the original rates, not the revision that came with Ixion, despite running after Ixion. So that extra copy wasn't for 100/75/60 mats. It was for the 120/90/70 rate.
The revision that came with Ixion of course isn't anywhere near as drastic as the Illuyanka event change, but it was still noticable at the time. Original rate was 455/255/215 to max the eidolon and 285/205/145 to max the weapon. From Ixion up until right before Illuyanka it'd be 375/210/150 for the eidolon and 260/165/125 for the weapon.

Phoenix/Apocalypse was also early enough that I still couldn't reliably farm ultimate yet. IIRC, from that reprint, I only moved up from 1* Phoenix Bow and Apoc Lance to 2*. Probably bumped the eidolons up 1* each as well. This was early enough for us such that even DMM was still pre-Guild Order, so we didn't have the knowledge to set up weapons for FLBing later.

Thanks all. I understand if people played previous phoenix event and get the bow. but some people got two just from the current event alone?

[Shieun]

Those people will also have a lot of HE stocked up that allows them to farm that much.

[Tanukimo]

You should keep in mind that some people may not have finished a weapon during the last reprint and so used this event to get the copies that they needed. That might be what you are referring to. It's a lot easier to finish a bow with 1 or 2 copies than to farm 4 copies from scratch.

[Unregistered]

Man I have to ask, how the hell do you get so many Half Elixers from gacha consistently

I'm pretty sure I average about 10 a day from the 100 pulls...

Is there some other source or devil sorcery you guys are using

[Cobblemaniac]

Man I have to ask, how the hell do you get so many Half Elixers from gacha consistently

I'm pretty sure I average about 10 a day from the 100 pulls...

Is there some other source or devil sorcery you guys are using

10 HEs per 100 pulls seems normal for the 1% drop rate.

The sorcery we use is this thing called ranking up. The higher your AP cap the more you get out of HEs per gem quest. Or you have someone who plays purely on passive AP gen and stocked like 1k HEs or something.

Or eido shop, but that's not recommended.

[Unregistered]

220 half elixirs in at 53 AP each, entered with 7 gold mats and now currently at 1100+, and still no phoenix bow drop. Heck, I've only seen 3 rainbow chests drop in ult (all SR fodder). 3 chests dropped from ragnarok as well, but those were all just cores. I think that I've hit the stage of acceptance that I won't get that bow to drop. But eh, I suppose that I'll keep guzzling HEs today out of principle.

[nut]

220 half elixirs in at 53 AP each, entered with 7 gold mats and now currently at 1100+, and still no phoenix bow drop. Heck, I've only seen 3 rainbow chests drop in ult (all SR fodder). 3 chests dropped from ragnarok as well, but those were all just cores. I think that I've hit the stage of acceptance that I won't get that bow to drop. But eh, I suppose that I'll keep guzzling HEs today out of principle.

I got an Ixion's sword and Horus eido drop effortlessly so I thought If I grind a bit an extra mlb bow wouldn't be a problem but I was so wrong :fear::fear:

[Unregistered]

220 half elixirs in at 53 AP each, entered with 7 gold mats and now currently at 1100+, and still no phoenix bow drop. Heck, I've only seen 3 rainbow chests drop in ult (all SR fodder). 3 chests dropped from ragnarok as well, but those were all just cores. I think that I've hit the stage of acceptance that I won't get that bow to drop. But eh, I suppose that I'll keep guzzling HEs today out of principle.

And tonight's update is...
I forced down another 80 half elixirs, bringing the total consumed for this event to a nice, round 300. Honestly, at some point today, the quest for the bow devolved into the quest to hit 300 HEs used. Got 1500+ gold mats. After buying everything in the shop except for enhance mats, I've still 1100 gold mats and 1800 silver mats.
1 rainbow chest dropped today at about... 1.5 hours away from event end. It was the damn hammer. 'tis a nice gesture there, RNG. Almost perfect, even. Now if that dropped on my last run of this event, then it'd have been the perfect middle finger.

Ah well. It's a setback for sure, but not quite a permanent one yet. I'll just have to use the first 10k tower medals I get on a weapon brick to use on this 2nd bow. That ought to take me 2 or 3 tower events, so either next February or early May. I'll also need this remaining stack of 1716 half elixirs to successfully produce me 1 Apocalypse Lance/Typhon Lance/Garuda Hammer.