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jessejames93
10-18-2018, 09:49 AM
So i have no maxed out characters when it comes to ampys, now that i have ton of them should i just focus on my squad 1?

smr
10-18-2018, 10:00 AM
Kerria, Dendrobium, Saffron, Alpinia

jessejames93
10-18-2018, 10:13 AM
Ok i have 3 of them, So focus them on Kerria first?
All types or just a specific type?

phob
10-18-2018, 10:33 AM
Ok i have 3 of them, So focus them on Kerria first?
All types or just a specific type?

Kerria needs max everything first!
Any DEF leftover goes to counter girls first. They use it as attack.
Any ATK leftover give to Dendrobium, she needs it maxed
Alpinia uses HP to recover so max hers

I would add Anemone to that list if you have her

jessejames93
10-18-2018, 11:11 AM
Damn this is insanely expensive, anyway is there a way to make sure i don't go overboard and waste ampys on her?
I checked the max stats but they don't match, would i get a better idea with equipment removed or what?

Or Does someone know the max amount of ampys in attack, defense, and hit points

phob
10-18-2018, 11:15 AM
Damn this is insanely expensive, anyway is there a way to make sure i don't go overboard and waste ampys on her?
I checked the max stats but they don't match, would i get a better idea with equipment removed or what?

Or Does someone know the max amount of ampys in attack, defense, and hit points

100 of each kind is max so 3000 HP, 1000 ATK, 400 DEF

That's why I added storage going to take a bit for me to afford it all. Actually having to do coin runs!
Got Soapwort her DEF rest to Mistletoe
ATK going to Loquat working on now

Unregistered
10-18-2018, 11:33 AM
Don't worry about going overboard. Just pay attention, as the game will warn you if you're trying to use more ampies after a stat has been maxed. The +number by the respective stat turns red and there's some blinking small red text right above the Upgrade button saying something like 'You reached the max for <respective stat> UP.'

hypo
10-18-2018, 12:00 PM
Damn this is insanely expensive

Yes it is, that's why I'm upgrading the last 6* I got (Mistletoe) only with ampies up to 50, and then manyus until evolving so I don't pay the price of the high levels with the ampies.

For wow she's bloomed 38/80 and +2520/+890/+384.

phob
10-18-2018, 12:24 PM
Yes it is, that's why I'm upgrading the last 6* I got (Mistletoe) only with ampies up to 50, and then manyus until evolving so I don't pay the price of the high levels with the ampies.

For wow she's bloomed 38/80 and +2520/+890/+384.

That's the way to do it if you can, but I needed to get Horse Chestnut, Mistletoe, Soapwort, and Apple to the field ASAP for the RB event:cry:
The only one I got sitting there is Aconite and she is no where near the time that she needs ampy since she needs RG before she sees any action

I would like to pick up Wolfberry for future (she needs bloomed)and I will leave her down if I get a chance to get her.
I really hope they make this offer again...I got need for many

Another idea is to bloom Iberis and level her up with ampy, but I am not doing that because I don't see using her as anything as a support girl to bring in for skill/hit color needed/miss% girl in the future.

sniddy
10-18-2018, 02:00 PM
I've got a problem in that my sakura is level 80 and no ampies - thats gonna burn a hole in my coins one day

So now I level them one at a time ampies as much as I can just finished one, and already level 36/70 on another...it does mean I have 2 or 3 level 1/60 6* girls there waiting their turns

jessejames93
10-18-2018, 02:24 PM
Well i went from 800k to 100k really quick, i gotta chill on this. I think i will dump some ampies into Horse Chestnut when she is evolved an at level 1 again.

Its just insanely expensive and i dont have the space to store all the extra ampies. But thanks for the help now i know what to look for to make sure i don't over on any of them, just gotta start farming gold now

Unregistered
10-18-2018, 02:26 PM
Eh, at worst it'll just be 2.4 million coins, I think? 80k to upgrade a lv 80 girl with 10 materials times 10 to hit 100 total ampies of one type times 3 types. It doesn't feel as bad when you spread it out such that you only burn 240k or 480k at a time.

Ampchan
10-18-2018, 07:48 PM
Have 100 of each in your inventory and use them to level up with after blooming your favorite rainbows...

AgentFakku
10-19-2018, 11:12 AM
can't really coment on the OP and really help coz Im a casual fan and I hate math



for me I fully ampy rainbow pink haired gurls and half amp rainbow gurls who ain't pink hair
https://i.imgur.com/GZPGaBz.png
I love Kerria but dafuq, I should have just gave only def ampy and max it out, I didn't know counter gurls work dat well

But she will dethrone my pink hair gurls, if I do it, ugh

Daisy and fuk wut was her name, DeFlowering Peaches, were max ampy but have no bloom right now

jessejames93
10-19-2018, 12:49 PM
can't really coment on the OP and really help coz Im a casual fan and I hate math



for me I fully ampy rainbow pink haired gurls and half amp rainbow gurls who ain't pink hair
https://i.imgur.com/GZPGaBz.png
I love Kerria but dafuq, I should have just gave only def ampy and max it out, I didn't know counter gurls work dat well

But she will dethrone my pink hair gurls, if I do it, ugh

Daisy and fuk wut was her name, DeFlowering Peaches, were max ampy but have no bloom right now

I'm jealous of your 6 stars would love to have Saffron, my luck is just garbage when it's comes to Gachas, only lucky ones i've had were Ghost Weed and Apricot.

MagicSpice
10-19-2018, 04:28 PM
Yeah, the ampy cost is dependent on level, just like everything else that gets used in upgrade.

Honestly, the optimal way to increase stats with ampy units is to do it as low lv as possible

It was the same case for Sengoku Providence, which took a lot of inspiration from this game



I'm jealous of your 6 stars would love to have Saffron, my luck is just garbage when it's comes to Gachas, only lucky ones i've had were Ghost Weed and Apricot.

I rarely pulled 6* girls. I think snowdrop, loquat, and, Fritllaria (might have misspelled it) are my only lucky pulls. The rest came from deals, rainbow coins, and forced 6* pulls.

Keep in mind, I have 21 rainbows now (5 of each type, Hit type has 6 instead)

jessejames93
10-19-2018, 07:02 PM
21 that's pretty damn good, I just added two girls to my collection, I now have 20 rainbows! I'm satisfied with my collection now :)

jessejames93
10-19-2018, 09:17 PM
I just maxed on Kerria, thanks to everyone who had helpful input. I will give some defenses to Anemone, and the rest to Dendro.

phob
10-19-2018, 10:17 PM
I just maxed on Kerria, thanks to everyone who had helpful input. I will give some defenses to Anemone, and the rest to Dendro.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!


"we are asking that you not unleash Kerria until the children have been safely escorted to a secured location"

fghk0
10-19-2018, 11:05 PM
I only let a girl accept Ampy to ensure ampy max

But this method takes a long time, but it does not distract ampy and avoid mistakes

jessejames93
10-20-2018, 09:19 AM
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!


"we are asking that you not unleash Kerria until the children have been safely escorted to a secured location"

She surpassed Dendro with total power, at least until the next double ampy pack comes out

phob
10-20-2018, 01:13 PM
She surpassed Dendro with total power, at least until the next double ampy pack comes out

I only got ATK maxed on Dendro. The most important thing besides ATK with her is skill blooms. If her skill is at max, then only running 3 regular 1.2 skill act girls guarantees that she will double strike at 4.8 (or one Daisy, Viola, Cymbidium, future Hollyhock when she's bloomed, and others) Usually that is more than enough to wipe out the enemy by itself. If its not, then bring out the Kraken. DEF and HP are better used elsewhere like on counter and debuff girls IMHO.:wink:

She is a one trick pony, but its a hell of a trick:squint:

One more thing, Don't run Dendro and Kerria on the same team! Kerria needs everyone on her team to have skill act boost if possible...and it is:bgrin:

jessejames93
10-20-2018, 02:29 PM
I only got ATK maxed on Dendro. The most important thing besides ATK with her is skill blooms. If her skill is at max, then only running 3 regular 1.2 skill act girls guarantees that she will double strike.(or one Daisy, Viola, Cymbidium, future Hollyhock when she's bloomed, and others) Usually that is more than enough to wipe out the enemy by itself. If its not, then bring out the Kraken. DEF and HP are better used elsewhere like on counter and debuff girls IMHO.:wink:

She is a one trick pony, but its a hell of a trick:squint:

One more thing, Don't run Dendro and Kerria on the same team! Kerria needs everyone on her team to have skill act boost if possible...and it is:bgrin:


Really? I just decimated the 90 stamina Pierce Whale Mission. Party 1 consists of Daisy, Anemone, Mei, Dendro, and Kerria! It was devastating, they wiped the floor with all the enemies!

Edit: If you don't mind telling me what Squad 1 would you use (which characters would you swap?)

phob
10-20-2018, 03:03 PM
Really? I just decimated the 90 stamina Pierce Whale Mission. Party 1 consists of Daisy, Anemone, Mei, Dendro, and Kerria! It was devastating, they wiped the floor with all the enemies!

Edit: If you don't mind telling me what Squad 1 would you use (which characters would you swap?)

I am sure it did! For Whale use whatever works!. Raidboss is different too.

As for the mains:

Use your best skill act girls with Kerria, whomever they are. The better they are, the better Kerria is.
The key with her is to get her to use her skill as much as possible. She is suited to the long game. She's harder than hell to kill and deals hellacious damage!

Here is what I am running
all girls have skill act boost.
Cattleya boosts skill damage
Burning Bush and now Iberis add purple and blue weakness.
Maple is filler, waiting to bloom and will be incredible when she does (50% ATK boost to all and will get 1.36 skill activation eventually)

I still like Cactus with Dendro but had to pull her for the time being to make a crit team

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jessejames93
10-21-2018, 12:07 AM
I am sure it did! For Whale use whatever works!. Raidboss is different too.

As for the mains:

Use your best skill act girls with Kerria, whomever they are. The better they are, the better Kerria is.
The key with her is to get her to use her skill as much as possible. She is suited to the long game. She's harder than hell to kill and deals hellacious damage!

Here is what I am running
all girls have skill act boost.
Cattleya boosts skill damage
Burning Bush and now Iberis add purple and blue weakness.
Maple is filler, waiting to bloom and will be incredible when she does (50% ATK boost to all and will get 1.36 skill activation eventually)

I still like Cactus with Dendro but had to pull her for the time being to make a crit team

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I'm jelly of the all 6 girls you have ;)

Take a look and tell me who is best suited for the task

http://i.imgur.com/sNvJUehb.png (https://imgur.com/sNvJUeh)

MagicSpice
10-21-2018, 12:45 AM
so, supposedly with event 80, we get introduced to High Ampy units.... in other words, 6* versions...

while priorities won't change, the meta will. These ampies can only be used AFTER you've maxed out the stat increase, effectively doubling it (so you can get 6k extra HP this way, 2k extra atk, 800 extra defense).

no wonder they upped the power requirements so much later on... but here's more info on that here:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Strengthening_Synthesis

phob
10-21-2018, 01:09 AM
I'm jelly of the all 6 girls you have ;)

Take a look and tell me who is best suited for the task

http://i.imgur.com/sNvJUehb.png (https://imgur.com/sNvJUeh)

I don't have Helenium Easter version so her main is proxy here(I looked her up and she gets skill act buff with bloom:grin:)

I got three good teams out of it. Kerria, Dendro, Debuff and stick a taunt on Apricot, and Anemone that 3.75 and 4 is a bitch!

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phob
10-21-2018, 02:34 AM
so, supposedly with event 80, we get introduced to High Ampy units.... in other words, 6* versions...

while priorities won't change, the meta will. These ampies can only be used AFTER you've maxed out the stat increase, effectively doubling it (so you can get 6k extra HP this way, 2k extra atk, 800 extra defense).

no wonder they upped the power requirements so much later on... but here's more info on that here:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Strengthening_Synthesis

So just make sure you fully ampy the portion (ATK,DEF,HP) on girls that you want to boost further, or everything...cough... Kerria :silly:

hypo
10-21-2018, 02:01 PM
so, supposedly with event 80, we get introduced to High Ampy units.... in other words, 6* versions...

while priorities won't change, the meta will. These ampies can only be used AFTER you've maxed out the stat increase, effectively doubling it (so you can get 6k extra HP this way, 2k extra atk, 800 extra defense).

no wonder they upped the power requirements so much later on... but here's more info on that here:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Strengthening_Synthesis

So it works like 2nd affection gift?

Unregistered
10-21-2018, 03:57 PM
So it works like 2nd affection gift?

Exactly. There is just three separate parts to it. ATK DEF HP You don't have to max all three.

Unregistered2
10-21-2018, 04:14 PM
so, supposedly with event 80, we get introduced to High Ampy units.... in other words, 6* versions...

while priorities won't change, the meta will. These ampies can only be used AFTER you've maxed out the stat increase, effectively doubling it (so you can get 6k extra HP this way, 2k extra atk, 800 extra defense).


Those are technically added with the thing released alongside event 80, rather than as part of the event. Considering how many Aqua Shadow maps SuperHippo released so far, they may not get added.

Also note that the quantities are so limited that only 77 sets of high ampies have been available so far on DMM. Don't bother factoring them into theory crafting.

Ampchan
10-21-2018, 04:49 PM
It is honestly safe to assume that high power ampies will not be a big thing here. Maybe eventually, but they were added on dmm because I have 3 girls maxed ampied on a dmm alt and the account is currently sitting at lv. 4.

phob
10-21-2018, 04:57 PM
It is honestly safe to assume that high power ampies will not be a big thing here. Maybe eventually, but they were added on dmm because I have 6 girls maxed ampied on a dmm alt and the account is currently sitting at lv. 4.

If we get them, they all are going on Kerria anyways as far as I am concerned. I hope I have to worry about what to do with more:grin:

Ampchan
10-21-2018, 05:01 PM
To be honest, at that point, Kerria really does not have the safe level of greatness compared to the lead she has now. She still very good, but she is not a Godsent.

phob
10-21-2018, 05:30 PM
Good.. We need harder stuff:grin:

Ampchan
10-21-2018, 05:51 PM
Good.. We need harder stuff:grin:

While I agree with you, maybe we should not be the ones to talk about what is hard and what is not. Afterall, we are kind of whales :c

phob
10-21-2018, 06:41 PM
While I agree with you, maybe we should not be the ones to talk about what is hard and what is not. Afterall, we are kind of whales :c

IDK what you are talking about!

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hypo
10-22-2018, 11:52 AM
Also note that the quantities are so limited that only 77 sets of high ampies have been available so far on DMM. Don't bother factoring them into theory crafting.

Could you explain? Are they related to event/special maps in 1-time awards?

AgentFakku
10-23-2018, 02:38 PM
don't remind me of the super amphies

ugh... I think Im good with regular amphies and those are hard to come by (w/ Events making it easier), just a hell a lot to grind after u finish an event

jessejames93
10-23-2018, 02:41 PM
Guys, ampy question. Should i continue dumping my ampies in Dendro? I just got a good bit from the event. Someone else should i be feeding?

Someone said safe defense for Anenome, what about hit point ampies?

phob
10-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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Guys, ampy question. Should i continue dumping my ampies in Dendro? I just got a good bit from the event. Someone else should i be feeding?

Someone said safe defense for Anenome, what about hit point ampies?

ATK Dendro, Anenome, Alpinia, Mei, Sakura, Helenium (Easter),BB... Why? Because these are your best attackers
HP Alpinia, Anemone, your debuffers Why? Alpinia, like Kerria should be using recovery boost. Anemone is multi-talented, Debuff needs to live.
DEF Anemone, Apricot,Alpinia, your debuffers Why? Counter first then debuff(see above)

When you get an event Raid Boss, flip Kerria to Apinias slot and that team will do enormous damage

jessejames93
10-23-2018, 03:25 PM
Thanks that was very helpful. I usually use a weak party for Raid Bosses to let Allies get in on it.

Edit: Fed ATK - Dendro, DEF - Anenome, HIT - Alpina

Unregistered
10-23-2018, 03:29 PM
Thanks that was very helpful. I usually use a weak party for Raid Bosses to let Allies get in on it.

No need to do this any more. Raid bosses stick around a bit for people after defeated. It's better to kill the things than let them run away. Share them, smack them, move on and open the space for more raid bosses.

jessejames93
10-23-2018, 03:31 PM
No need to do this any more. Raid bosses stick around a bit for people after defeated. It's better to kill the things than let them run away. Share them, smack them, move on and open the space for more raid bosses.

That's awesome i wasn't sure what was going on but It makes sense as I haven't seen the "Raid boss was defeated" message

phob
10-23-2018, 03:46 PM
I was referring to an event RB 12 million and above. That team with Kerria would probably take out half of an 18 million RB,with Alpinia probably 5 million.

To each , their own:cool:
I find the biggest of the big a challenge and the rest I don't bother with and hit them with a 2*

fghk0
10-24-2018, 06:34 AM
Guys, ampy question. Should i continue dumping my ampies in Dendro? I just got a good bit from the event. Someone else should i be feeding?

Someone said safe defense for Anenome, what about hit point ampies?

Personally think that the order of Ampy is actually not that important. Because the favorite will be maximized.:silly:

When you are in a more difficult challenge, the ampy max girl will be more effective than the amphy only half or some of the effects.
It just depends on your choice:squint:


So I will only be on the same girl until max

Dendro is suitable for emergency activities and missions. The effect is not obvious in RB battles (-70%)
Anenome is practical in both RB and mission. Just need the trigger rate of skill 1.8.

With the arrival of the Water Shadow mission(not currently open), you will need Denro and Loquat's Pyrotechnic combination (or similar)

Instant attack maximizes killing pests:kiss:

smr
10-24-2018, 01:02 PM
we need the storage update pretty badly to free up alot of space. Material characters become stackable which is incredibly convenient.

phob
10-24-2018, 02:52 PM
we need the storage update pretty badly to free up alot of space. Material characters become stackable which is incredibly convenient.

Definitely tired of wasting FG on storage.
I want more resource packs. Girls are hungry:silly:

Myers
10-24-2018, 03:52 PM
I'm kinda curious about the storage update I keep hearing about (I never played DMM). How much does it stack? Do you still get 200 slots of character materials?

smr
10-24-2018, 04:01 PM
if you spent any gems for more storage space you got refunded. This is Nutaku so we'll see if we will actually get compensated.

You can get a 999 stack of each character material until you need to use/sell them.

jessejames93
10-24-2018, 05:16 PM
The refund and stacks sound freakin amazing! How long do you think it would realistically take for Nutaku to implement?
I'm excited for the weapon evolving but it seems to be taking forever

MagicSpice
10-24-2018, 08:34 PM
i get ampies and 3* manyus a crap ton without trying... unless it's defense, i'm burning all of them on sakura right now since i have no self healers and i'd like to have my 1st team have more suitability to go with that damage

that stackablility help a lot since i got space increases for both storage and what I normally hold. Considering I barely do FG gacha, it'd be nice to get a lot of those gems back.

speaking of, hoping we get the "commander" gacha with that aqua shadow update... i don't care how much I have to farm, guaranteed 5*'s with better 6* rates sounds amazing.... plus you get rainbow medals far more often

Ampchan
10-24-2018, 09:06 PM
The refund and stacks sound freakin amazing! How long do you think it would realistically take for Nutaku to implement?
I'm excited for the weapon evolving but it seems to be taking forever

I expect it never to come to Nutaku. It was only after we had a shitstorm did they actually add a functional warehouse. On release you had to buy all the slots, you started off with 0. :|

AgentFakku
10-25-2018, 02:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Mqmd2all.jpg

all right finish Dogwood

now, I need to go finish Flowering Peach just in case she gets her bloom

phob
10-25-2018, 03:30 PM
Man, she is going to be a beast when she blooms:rofl::bgrin::grin:

AgentFakku
10-26-2018, 06:37 PM
I'm kinda curious about the storage update I keep hearing about (I never played DMM). How much does it stack? Do you still get 200 slots of character materials?

It looks like this

https://i.imgur.com/qiWuGTcl.jpg

I hope I don't spoil you

Myers
10-26-2018, 06:52 PM
It looks like this

https://i.imgur.com/qiWuGTcl.jpg

I hope I don't spoil you

Wow, that looks almost too good to be true. I can't wait till we get it (assuming we ever do).

phob
10-26-2018, 09:53 PM
[QUOTE=HungryHunter;130749]It looks like this

Sweet baby bejeezus, you need some gacha girls to soak up all that gold and manyu!:silly:
Meanwhile, I gotta get back to running the mori-mori and whale to get all these new girls leveled :cry:

MagicSpice
10-26-2018, 09:55 PM
It looks like this

https://i.imgur.com/qiWuGTcl.jpg

I hope I don't spoil you

wait what?!

all those upgrade units, gold, and flower gems.... holy shit....

durrem
10-27-2018, 12:28 AM
It's 306 gems. They added 2 zeroes when the mobile app came out for monetary reasons.

AgentFakku
10-27-2018, 11:02 AM
[QUOTE=HungryHunter;130749]It looks like this

Sweet baby bejeezus, you need some gacha girls to soak up all that gold and manyu!:silly:
Meanwhile, I gotta get back to running the mori-mori and whale to get all these new girls leveled :cry:

I only ampy rainbow gurls, I only did two. I was waiting to get up to 100 for the ATK lion. I lose track and I actually did go overboard and I can't read Japanese

If I could, spend $ on DMM

for some reason I can't, all the rainbow gurls cept two are freebies

actually I did buy one gurl

I have more rainbowgurls in Nutaku than DMM

jessejames93
10-27-2018, 02:16 PM
Fritilaria worthy of my ampies or should i just stick to the original plan?
I kinda wanna dump them since im having trouble leveling her up atm (just bloomed her today)

fghk0
10-27-2018, 07:03 PM
When you need strength, your efforts will tell you
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Giving up is simple, like my fritillary. Her ampy stays near June of 2017.
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The numbers look a lot like no difference, but in RB battles (or more difficult tasks) Fritillary will be defeated first, so the output is unsatisfactory.


If you just want to go through the general tasks, then don't care about these gaps.:silly:

jessejames93
10-28-2018, 01:47 AM
Thanks I had not fed her any, and now i have Pumpkin so i'm tempted to give her some, but i will stick with the original plan