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Kitty
12-18-2018, 09:21 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Duq393qWoAAs4Dm.jpg

Battles -

Expert/Rag:

Normal Overdrive - Damage to all allies and applies cursed (blocks all healing for 3T) (added affliction rate down to all allies on RAG)
Raging Overdrive - x7 nuke to random target and applies pride ATK buff to self

Trigger 1 - Applies vigorous ATK buff to self after first turn for 180 seconds (once)
Trigger 2 - Applies DOOM debuff to all allies after 7th turn

long video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3FT87Ciikk
short video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srjv4kXXDf0
more event info > http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E6%AC%B2%E6%9C%9B%E6%B8%A6%E5%B7%BB%E3% 81%8F%E5%A4%A7%E6%99%A6%E6%97%A5%EF%BC%81

Rewards -

Divine 50, Devil 55 - SSR Weapon x4, SR Weapons x 4
Divine 140, Devil 82 - 22 Premium Gacha Tickets
Divine 200, Devil 90 - 2 Dragonic Eye Shards
Divine 225, Devil 95 - Magic Jewel 3000

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524620108556009472/unknown.png
as always, thanks to JStar

Iwanaga-Hime stats -
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524622843003011093/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524623548887859210/unknown.png
Summon ability applies counter-attack to all allies
10T usage interval on summon attack, 3T effect time

Event Mission -

Solo Ragnarok with LIGHT soul and himes only - x50 Raid Gacha Ticket
Solo Expert with RARE only - x30 Raid Gacha Ticket

New LE Kamihime -

SSR [Kagura Miko] Nike (Light)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/524620732169453578/index.png
SSR[Beautiful Feather] Aphrodite (Thunder)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524620750154629129/index.png
SR [Blazing Sakura in Full Bloom] Konohana-Sakuya (Fire)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524620834871050255/index.png
SR (Raid) [Pure White Princess] Amaterasu (Light)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524620852776402973/index.png
R [Black Lily Princess] Kushinada (Dark)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524620805993136170/index.png
again, thanks JStar for translating everything <3

...nsfw spoilers
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/524625355672387624/unknown.png

akemashite omedetou gozaimasu~!

MagicSpice
12-18-2018, 10:02 AM
Wow all those limited to deal with... Not gonna be able to get Light Nike then without serious luck...

But soloing Rag with light? This really catches my attention

AutoCrimson
12-18-2018, 11:34 AM
Light Ama finally arrives.

Bedevil
12-18-2018, 11:50 AM
sexy new year banner
praying for the limited aphro i'm excieted and nervous :love:
starting to get the dual skill sr, i guess its better than normal sr by enough that i will use it in my grid (still have 5 sr for fire)

MagicSpice
12-18-2018, 07:46 PM
sexy new year banner
praying for the limited aphro i'm excieted and nervous :love:
starting to get the dual skill sr, i guess its better than normal sr by enough that i will use it in my grid (still have 5 sr for fire)

i'd honestly be okay with pulling any of them on that banner, even the futa....

and yeah, depending on the effects, those dual skill SR might be taking priority over disaster SR... assault/exceed for fire seems really good, even at small.

Cobblemaniac
12-18-2018, 08:24 PM
i'd honestly be okay with pulling any of them on that banner, even the futa....

and yeah, depending on the effects, those dual skill SR might be taking priority over disaster SR... assault/exceed for fire seems really good, even at small.

The futa is event SR.

Let's see if futa Ama finally anals MC this year on DMM

MagicSpice
12-18-2018, 09:31 PM
The futa is event SR.

Let's see if futa Ama finally anals MC this year on DMM

i think she'd be more likely to get him anal'd by a random guy.... then get off from the results...

Nyarlathotep tho... yeah, she's done that already and I'm not surprised if it happens again on a future version (if she ever gets another besies her most recent version, looking at the DMM CG)

Dejnov
12-21-2018, 08:41 PM
The SR weapon has two skills? How does that work?

I thought they only had a single skill...


DEJNOV

Kitty
12-21-2018, 08:57 PM
The SR weapon has two skills? How does that work?

I thought they only had a single skill...


DEJNOV

nah they got dual skills now, especially over at dmm
we'll start seeing them more as the year progresses... not worth getting tho

Dejnov
12-21-2018, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the clarification; I agree it’s like any other assault SR and Exceed isn’t useful, but it did throw me for a loop.

Dejnov

Unregistered
12-21-2018, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the clarification; I agree it’s like any other assault SR and Exceed isn’t useful, but it did throw me for a loop.

Dejnov

Exceed on fire is useful tho bc Uriel can easily hit burst cap even with f2p grid

MagicSpice
12-22-2018, 03:00 AM
Exceed on fire is useful tho bc Uriel can easily hit burst cap even with f2p grid

fire and wind are made for either high burst damage and/or frequent bursts (until others jump into that too)

exceed for those elements would do wonders, especially since this exceed comes with assault

(it's honestly got me a little tempted to keep that since i have one fire SSR that's defender and it's a gacha one)

Slashley
12-22-2018, 03:20 AM
--not worth getting tho
Thanks for the clarification; I agree it’s like any other assault SR and Exceed isn’t useful, but it did throw me for a loop.vat

Dual skills are extremely powerful. Maybe they're not worth it if you're running full SSR grids as many veterans are starting to be, but you certainly shouldn't underestimate just how powerful these things can be. Losing 6% Assault and ~500 base Atk for 10% HP can easily be worth it. Well, this weapon isn't Assault/Defender, but you get the idea.
Exceed on fire is useful tho bc Uriel can easily hit burst cap even with f2p gridAwakened Uriel can hit 2m off-element with a F2P grid. I don't think Exceed will help in that? Or is Awakened Uriel's burst cap increase separate from Exceed?

Cobblemaniac
12-22-2018, 06:27 AM
Exceed isn't useful

Hold your horses.

11831

You do realise it's not just burst cap up but also burst dmg up right? Assault S exceed S is infinitely better than assault M.


Burst cap

No matter which buff, all single bursts are absolutely capped at 2m dmg, after which the 90% dmg nerf applies. The only known hime to ignore this cap so far is Meta AW, when she bursts at 0 countdown.

Ikki
12-22-2018, 10:23 AM
and Exceed isn’t useful


What :blobglare:

Dejnov
12-22-2018, 11:09 AM
Hold your horses.

11831

You do realise it's not just burst cap up but also burst dmg up right? Assault S exceed S is infinitely better than assault M.



No matter which buff, all single bursts are absolutely capped at 2m dmg, after which the 90% dmg nerf applies. The only known hime to ignore this cap so far is Meta AW, when she bursts at 0 countdown.



My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Cobblemaniac
12-22-2018, 11:12 AM
My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Final values are 10 and 13% respectively at SL20.

Unregistered
12-22-2018, 01:01 PM
My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Sacrifice 3% assault for 10% exceed is not a bad deal

MagicSpice
12-23-2018, 04:54 AM
Assuming someone also has Uriel (unlike me), that SR weapon should benefit them even more...

Kitty
12-23-2018, 05:07 AM
not rlly since uriel can reast the burst cap without it.. also another reason burst power accessories are redundant

Slashley
12-23-2018, 05:47 AM
-- also another reason burst power accessories are redundantIt's more because Burst damage is a "either if" choice there. I mean, if we compare a SR Assault 13% with SR Assault+Exceed which is 10% Assault, 30% Burst damage and 200k more cap, it's not a bad deal.

Meanwhile, in (non-Ancient rolls) Accessories, it's 3% Assault vs. 5% Burst damage. Why wouldn't you always rather want Assault which works every turn, instead of only on your Burst turns? Not to mention that it's not a "burst damage * 1.05", it's "burst damage modifier + 0.05" which for SSRs who already have 500%, won't make much of a difference. In fact, the 3% Assault is very likely to be more damage on your Bursts than 5% Burst modifier. I can't be bothered to run the maths, but let's say that should always hold true at least with PF on SSRs.

Cobblemaniac
12-23-2018, 09:00 AM
Having Uriel means no need exceed

Uh, a single hime's requirements does not dictate an entire team's.

Additionally, you will not be getting max stacks on Uriel in raids before going for FB, and before you say GO and AQ, those are things, but you will be using Uriel in raids. And no reasonable team waits for 10T to throw their burst.

Dejnov
12-29-2018, 12:57 PM
Where can we find actual data on Burst caps for different Himes?

I'd like to know when my teams might be getting close to the burst cap. Is there any in game way of telling?


Dejnov.

Ikki
12-29-2018, 01:18 PM
Where can we find actual data on Burst caps for different Himes?

I'd like to know when my teams might be getting close to the burst cap. Is there any in game way of telling?


Dejnov.

It's 1M for all of them, with uriel and meta being the exception cause of their toolkits and some other himes that have echo burst.

Dejnov
12-29-2018, 01:45 PM
It's 1M for all of them, with uriel and meta being the exception cause of their toolkits and some other himes that have echo burst.

Thanks. Just to clarify and expand on the topic, if I don't see 1M on a burst attack I can still pump up atk and exceed skills until that happens. Is there a damage limit on normal attacks or skills?

Dejnov.

Ikki
12-29-2018, 01:49 PM
Thanks. Just to clarify and expand on the topic, if I don't see 1M on a burst attack I can still pump up atk and exceed skills until that happens. Is there a damage limit on normal attacks or skills?

Dejnov.

350k normal attack, exceed small gives you 40% burst dmg up and 30% burst cap up (correct me if im wrong) and the "cap" is actually not a hard cap, after that cap all your dmg done past that point is reduced by 90% and added to the cap dmg, so if you see that you did 1.1M (without any exceed or burst cap up skills) this means in reality you did 2M with your burst, skills on the other hand have different caps depending on each kh, some caps are high (svarog's 300k per hit resulting in 900k total cap) while most of them range from 700-750k.

Kitty
12-31-2018, 11:32 AM
event starts in just under 10 hours not counting maintenance time... feels good to have an event so fast after another one.

...gonna have a bit of work to do, tho, as I need to farm on nutaku and DMM... ekeke

Unregistered
12-31-2018, 09:32 PM
No Dark Amaterasu yet?

Dejnov
01-01-2019, 03:25 AM
So the Light SR weapon from the event is Defender(S) and Exceed(S) (Burst up), which doesn't sound too bad. What are people's thoughts on the item. The big reason I'm intrigued is that I main Light and it would currently replace on of the Morgenstern Hammers, which are Assault(M), that I'm using (I only have 4 Light SSR MLBed weapons right now).

I would definitely replace it at a later date for an SSR Assault weapon, but for a plain SR Assault what are people's thoughts?


Dejnov.

AutoCrimson
01-01-2019, 05:01 AM
tbh most ppl that are active on this forum already surpassed the need of any SR weapon...
to not fully be offtopic - replace it if u can insta s20 it

Slashley
01-01-2019, 05:13 AM
So the Light SR weapon from the event is Defender(S) and Exceed(S) (Burst up), which doesn't sound too bad.--It is bad.

Here's a short list of what you're looking for in non-Relic weapons:
1. Does it have Assault(/Pride)? No? Then into the trash it goes.
tbh most ppl that are active on this forum already surpassed the need of any SR weapon...
to not fully be offtopic - replace it if u can insta s20 itWell we can't expect everyone to have a full SSR grid. Yes, players who started the game early on are starting to reach that, but many have started later.

AznSamsung
01-01-2019, 08:18 AM
so is any of the weapon worth getting?

Slashley
01-01-2019, 09:09 AM
so is any of the weapon worth getting?There's an Assault/Exceed Fire SR it seems, that's pretty good. Fire isn't getting their UE Exceed in ages, after all.

And of course the SSR is Assault(+)/HP, which is also great.

Cobblemaniac
01-01-2019, 09:28 AM
There's an Assault/Exceed Fire SR it seems, that's pretty good. Fire isn't getting their UE Exceed in ages, after all.

And of course the SSR is Assault(+)/HP, which is also great.

In fact, it's gotten so bad some DMM whales split their UE swords into 2 and bricked them so they could get an extra exceed for their grids.

These are dark times for fire mains.

Laventale
01-01-2019, 11:05 AM
Stickied upon request.

Happy new years, bunch of creeps.

Kitty
01-02-2019, 12:45 PM
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AznSamsung
01-02-2019, 02:06 PM
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kitty ur thunder team is always strong .... i expect nothing less

Dejnov
01-02-2019, 03:15 PM
Stickied upon request.

Happy new years, bunch of creeps.

We're not creeps... we're perverts. Get it straight!

Dejnov.

Kitty
01-02-2019, 03:26 PM
i'm neither. i'm innocent

Laventale
01-02-2019, 04:38 PM
i'm neither. i'm innocent

Check your Discord PM.

Kitty
01-02-2019, 04:41 PM
Check your Discord PM.

stop sending me dick pcis

Slashley
01-08-2019, 01:51 PM
So, as I missed out on Horus, my Fire Grid needed some serious help with zero dual-skill weapons. So I decided to tryhard this event a little bit.
11969
Saved 1.1k Tickets from previous raids, results of which I posted earlier in this thread I believe.

In total? I opened ~3.6k Tickets. At ~3k Tickets, all I had found was two Hammers and 3 Iwanaga-Hime. Thank fucking heavens that I found two more Hammers in the last 620 Tickets, this was almost a disaster. This is exactly the reason why I didn't bother to tryhard Tiamat, finding only 4 copies would've been a complete waste of time. At least I had the back-up option of the Ori Shop if this had gone wrong. I don't know what the average drop of SSRs from Raid Tickets is, but I have a feeling that 1/514 is fairly unlucky.

At least I have the most Gems I've ever had, so that's a good thing as a EU player, I guess.


Anyway, I kinda hate how this raid was a complete joke for a Water team (Full Bursting 6.5m with zero Crits with Rudra and effectively skipping the entire fight), but when doing it off-element with a crappy team... this happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyVXB-Lz_SI
Sure, I played like crap and my Grid is outdated, but it's still full slvl20. Well, except Herc Axe, which was still 20%. It's an outdated Grid, alright!?! But hey, it basically my first time playing with Light, since I simply have never had a functional Light team before. Outside of Sol, these were basically brand new Hime for me. Of course, that excuse goes out of the window considering how I fucked up with Herc's skills a couple of times too.
... I have no idea why I didn't swap out Combo- once I learned that Shamash has Intercept. That is not good synergy there.

Pretty impressed with Managarm's Combo+. That seems like some potent shit.

Kitty
01-08-2019, 02:00 PM
jesus christ 3k tix and 2 hammers is unreal. iirc i got 4 from the total amount plus a few 1kish more from battle drops
glad it worked out, tho

gotta say it's prob one of the easiest raid ragnaroks we've had yet. probably the 2nd or 3rd one i've been able to solo off-element for mission w/o using an elixer. easiest by far tho. gz on winning it, though i expect no less kek

also, if i add up my total from this event + DMM kinshi event, i got around the same amount of devil/divines heh, but if my dyscalculia doesn't deceive me thats 19m pp... awesome

Unregistered
01-08-2019, 02:03 PM
Huh, it never had clicked for me that: raid gacha tickets don't expire + raid gacha tickets aren't distinguished from the different raids = raid gacha tickets can be saved for later raids.

Kitty
01-08-2019, 02:10 PM
they can only be saved if you claim them from PP rewards but don't accept them in gifts. it's a very long process considering some events are like raid > advent > UE > advent > raid for example... it takes patience for like claiming shit in gifts 1 by 1.. i respect that.

next raid wep worth getting is Fluerety iirc, it's a large assault bow... not sure about the ones previous, but worth saving for is her bow..

anywho Dark UE starts on the 10th 8pm EST
i hope everyone is prepared n stuff

Unregistered
01-08-2019, 02:15 PM
Ah, that's kind of annoying. Granted, I'm already in that retrieve gifts 1 at a time life, but adding even more pages to skip through to pick out what I want at the moment is its own layer of annoyance.

Next raid after this is Monoceros with an assault/ascension weapon, I believe. After that, all raid SSRs are either single skill assault or dual skill but no assault/pride, from what I see.

Slashley
01-08-2019, 02:17 PM
Huh, it never had clicked for me that: raid gacha tickets don't expire + raid gacha tickets aren't distinguished from the different raids = raid gacha tickets can be saved for later raids.As Kitty basically already said, Raid Tickets only carry over from your Gifts. That means you can bring 300 Tickets from PP rewards and 30+50 Tickets from Event Quests per previous raid event.

Any unspent Raid Tickets in your inventory are DELETED the moment you enter the raid main screen for the first time. This is also the reason why you can't see raid help requests of that event until you've visited the raid main screen once (anymore, we used to be able to see them and people would constantly get their Tickets deleted).

Kitty
01-08-2019, 02:18 PM
reminds me of the biggest yikes i ever witnessed. my union buddy was saving a fuck ton of tickets and someone that was helping him with dailies one day did a claim all while no raid was on and he got absolutely fucked over lmaooooooo FFUCK it hurts to think about it

Unregistered
01-09-2019, 05:43 AM
This is exactly the reason why I didn't bother to tryhard Tiamat, finding only 4 copies would've been a complete waste of time. At least I had the back-up option of the Ori Shop if this had gone wrong.

Back-up option? How? Because the last Raid weapon in the shop is the Vland Lance and that won't change for a long time, not even in DMM they updated it because of those "epic-quest".

Do you mean perhaps the ori gun?

Gludateton
01-09-2019, 06:06 AM
Back-up option? How? Because the last Raid weapon in the shop is the Vland Lance and that won't change for a long time, not even in DMM they updated it because of those "epic-quest".

Do you mean perhaps the ori gun?
He meant Tiamat event, not this one. Although from what I see he also have messed ori shop and eido shop (I guess from 4 copies and Tiamat being best event eido ATK-wise).

Slashley
01-09-2019, 06:47 AM
Back-up option? How? Because the last Raid weapon in the shop is the Vland Lance and that won't change for a long time, not even in DMM they updated it because of those "epic-quest".--Shit, really? Why would they not keep adding raid weapons to the Ori Shop? I mean, Epic Quests are like a year away...
He meant Tiamat event, not this one. Although from what I see he also have messed ori shop and eido shop (I guess from 4 copies and Tiamat being best event eido ATK-wise).For Tiamat, I meant that if you got yourself 4 copies, you'd need to buy one from the Eidolon Orb Shop - and you'd never reach three MLB copies then. So really, all you did was change paying less Orbs for two.

And farming for some Orbs is just not worth it. Three MLB Tiamats would be worth it, though.

Cobblemaniac
01-09-2019, 07:55 PM
Shit, really? Why would they not keep adding raid weapons to the Ori Shop? I mean, Epic Quests are like a year away

One word: lazy.


backup option

In Tiamat bow...? From your account perspective, that's not necessary. I assume you have all the scythes from UE + 2 Rahab knives at least.

The optimal setup for f2p water will be straightforward here: 3 FLB UE scythes + 2 FLB Rahab knives + 1 null special sword + 2 FLB UE bows + 1 FLB Vritria sword (this last slot is kinda a wildcard)... + Shingen spear.

... Provided you missed none of them.

Unregistered
01-10-2019, 09:24 AM
New year, new raid gacha luck: rolled 12 SRs, 2 of Iwanagahime, and 2 of the hammer in 980 tickets.
I went through the entirety of 2018 never rolling double digit SRs in low 900's tickets.