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Kitty
02-20-2019, 08:02 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/547788883287605248/unknown.png
I do not want to see any off-topic pedo/lolicon bullshit on the thread. This is strictly for event discussion, no bullshit because of what the Eidolon looks like or you'll be banned from future threads.

Anywho, onto the event!
Battles:

Ult/Ragnarok -
When Nandi reaches rage, applies double ATK buff to self.
When Nandi reaches stun, she will heal herself for 200,000 HP and clear (most) of her afflictions.
When Nandi returns to normal mode she will clear a random affliction/buff? and apply triple ATK to self.

Normal Overdrive: Deals x5 random nuke to allies
Raging Overdrive: Deals large damage to all allies, applies rampaging, double ATK rate and scorched to self.
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New Rewards/Weapons:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/547792867519758336/unknown.png

Imo, the GUN is only worth getting if you really lack light SSR weapons. Assault+/Barrage (Triple ATK rate) is the same as Trivia's bow. Not the best, not the worst.
Though, we won't get another good light SSR until July on the Pride UE 2R, then the Greed UE 2R in September.
Then Sphinx 1R in November, which her FLB hammer becomes Assault++/Def.
So I suppose it's worth using if you have more than 2 SR weapons on your light grid.
but ew, elaborate gtfo.
https://i.imgur.com/N96DMsd.png
*slaps knee*


and I'm sure you know the drill on Advent rewards by now.
x3000 Magic Jewels, etc etc.
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New Kamihime:

SSR Dark - Kali
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/547793142724820994/index.png
SR Dark - Haurvatat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/547793248844906516/index.png
R Dark - Ratri
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/547793304503451660/index.png
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Event Mission:

Clear Ultimate with WATER kamihime and soul only.
Clear Ultimate with R kamihime only.
Clear Expert with R kamihime only.
Clear Exp/Ult/Rag without using elixir.
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Good Luck!

Slashley
02-20-2019, 08:17 AM
It should be noted that Water Tower should be right before this event.

Also, goddamn that Eidolon looks HOT. And so does Kali.

Kitty
02-20-2019, 08:18 AM
It should be noted that Water Tower should be right before this event.

Also, goddamn that Eidolon looks HOT. And so does Kali.

kys faggit ur no exception

Dunhere
02-20-2019, 08:39 AM
Can we at least laugh at the Holy Cow Smasher and the Shining Cow Launcher?

Kitty
02-20-2019, 08:39 AM
heck yeah broski

Dais
02-20-2019, 10:47 AM
Gimme that KALIII!

Kitty
02-20-2019, 11:14 AM
isn't kali a trash ssr kek

Unregistered
02-20-2019, 11:41 AM
S tier babe, though. Nandi too.

Dais
02-20-2019, 12:25 PM
isn't kali a trash ssr kek

Don't mind, there's probably not gonna be any other chance to get someone like pluto or another "good" dark ssr in forever, and Kali looks like she got some sick quick bursts, so I'm down.

KALI
- Self-20% HP + self-atk+ (lower HP = more atk) 6t [0] (note: can be used 5 times from full health, leaving her with 1-4 HP)
- Immune (once) + stealth 3t [6]
- Self-burst+100 [6]
- (only gains 6 burst per attack, gains combo+ as HP lowers (+10% dbl +5% trpl per 20% HP lost?), self-berserk (+100%) 3t from burst)

Kitty
02-20-2019, 12:33 PM
Don't mind, there's probably not gonna be any other chance to get someone like pluto or another "good" dark ssr in forever, and Kali looks like she got some sick quick bursts, so I'm down.

KALI
- Self-20% HP + self-atk+ (lower HP = more atk) 6t [0] (note: can be used 5 times from full health, leaving her with 1-4 HP)
- Immune (once) + stealth 3t [6]
- Self-burst+100 [6]
- (only gains 6 burst per attack, gains combo+ as HP lowers (+10% dbl +5% trpl per 20% HP lost?), self-berserk (+100%) 3t from burst)

She recently got an update in DMM late last month too, but I was never sure of her skills since they were so fucking confusing to translate.
though the next best SSR dark hime we'll get is Erebus, who still comes in....eh quite a loooooong time.

Gludateton
02-20-2019, 04:39 PM
She recently got an update in DMM late last month too, but I was never sure of her skills since they were so fucking confusing to translate.
though the next best SSR dark hime we'll get is Erebus, who still comes in....eh quite a loooooong time.
You lost Remilia somewhere.

Kitty
02-20-2019, 04:54 PM
oh right, forgot about Agaliarept too. she's decent iirc

Geo
02-25-2019, 06:10 PM
What are Nandi Eidolon's stats? Rather, what does this "runaway" ability, Google-translated from the japanese Wiki, mean?

Light damage to all enemies (++++) / Gives random ally "runaway" (???)
Initial: Light's Characters Attack +20% / burst gauge increase amount +10%
4LB: Light's Characters Attack +30% / burst gauge increase amount +20%

Slashley
02-25-2019, 07:04 PM
What are Nandi Eidolon's stats? Rather, what does this "runaway" ability, Google-translated from the japanese Wiki, mean?

Light damage to all enemies (++++) / Gives random ally "runaway" (???)
Initial: Light's Characters Attack +20% / burst gauge increase amount +10%
4LB: Light's Characters Attack +30% / burst gauge increase amount +20%The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming events. Such as telling you that Google's "runaway" means "berserk."

Kitty
02-26-2019, 04:22 AM
What are Nandi Eidolon's stats? Rather, what does this "runaway" ability, Google-translated from the japanese Wiki, mean?

Light damage to all enemies (++++) / Gives random ally "runaway" (???)
Initial: Light's Characters Attack +20% / burst gauge increase amount +10%
4LB: Light's Characters Attack +30% / burst gauge increase amount +20%

she's a pretty shit eidolon, gives one ally rampage which can be fucking awful at times so she's a trash eidolon that's goin straight to my eido orbs kek

Kuredo
02-26-2019, 05:54 AM
she's a pretty shit eidolon, gives one ally rampage which can be fucking awful at times so she's a trash eidolon that's goin straight to my eido orbs kek

I know you have a bias against Lolis and all that but Nandi is one of the top stat sticks for Light mains that arent filled with Hecatonchereis, Arch angels or God Kaisers

Unregistered
02-26-2019, 06:07 AM
I know you have a bias against Lolis and all that but Nandi is one of the top stat sticks for Light mains that arent filled with Hecatonchereis, Arch angels or God Kaisers

First of, having 3 of those MLBed still leaves you missing with 2 more for a full mono eido grid for fluffies. And additionally Arch Angel's stats are so shit for a gacha mlb you might be better off using event mlbs.

Unregistered
02-26-2019, 06:18 AM
Kitty and his bias opinion against lolis again, nothing new to see here...

Unregistered
02-26-2019, 10:43 AM
Event-wise, yea, your light stat sticks are Sphinx (2118 atk), St. Nicholas (1950 atk), Yule Goat (1890 atk), Nandi (1986 atk), and for a period of time Abou (1770 atk). Then Abou gets kicked out for Kinshi (1926 atk) if you don't care for Abou's dark atk debuff.
Alternatively, since Sphinx does get a reprint later, one can run two separate max copies of Sphinx if you care only about atk.
Although you'll probably run the light kaiser from orb exchange somewhere in there, so that kicks out Abou or Yule Goat on an atk basis, or St. Nicholas on the basis of 'St. Nick's summon effect freaking sucks'.

Kitty
02-26-2019, 01:30 PM
yes i'm biased most of the time, but kek it's rlly nothing to do with what she looks like, tho. she has a really bad summon which isn't worth a sub slot for me, regardless of her stats (which I didn't actually remember what they were because i'm brain dead)

I have LB2 Hecat +99 who takes Nandi's place in my sub slot, as they have the same-ish stats Hecat being 2LB+99 compared to Nandi at MLB.
Sphinx, Saint Nick (god awful summon), Yule Goat <3 and God Kaiser. that makes 5, tho. but Tiamat+99/Jorm+99 take the place instead of another light eido just because of their summon/stats rather than support for Managarmr.

sorry for not recalling her stats, tho, that's the only good thing about her I suppose, so good for anyone who doesn't have any light gacha eidos and want to give Managarmr that extra bonus.

and@ guest i'm not a dude, thanks : (

Tanukimo
02-26-2019, 01:59 PM
Nandi is a pretty big improvement over St. Nicholas. 570 hp and 1950 attack for St. Nicholas versus 636 hp and 1986 attack for Nandi. For me she'll be replacing Barong since I started late and Barong isn't +99.

Geo
02-26-2019, 02:04 PM
Nandi does not give a big attack boost at only 30%, but gives some 20% extra burst filling rate, so I thought she could be decent as a main Eidolon in a Light burst build I considered - just needs to have lots of friends with Yule Goat, which I have: with Zeal boosted by Nandi, how fast could I Full Burst things?

Giving Berserk as her summon effect, though, beats the purpose of building up burst meter, as one kami wouldn't burst while in Berserk... but then again maybe that hypothetical build would Full Burst so often I will never need more than 10 turns to finish enemies off, and I could avoid using her Summon Attack altogether. Thoughts?

Kitty
02-26-2019, 02:05 PM
Nandi is a pretty big improvement over St. Nicholas. 570 hp and 1950 attack for St. Nicholas versus 636 hp and 1986 attack for Nandi. For me she'll be replacing Barong since I started late and Barong isn't +99.

yeah Barong isn't really all that useful too aside from being a main eido just because of her nice elemental bonu, but Nicholas outranks her stat wise as main ad she's elemental too... both have pretty crap summons, but at least Barong's can actually be used even if it does suck... doesn't fucking buff the enemy ugh lmao
but Nandi isn't worth being a main eido since char atk, just a sub slot, def worth repping Barong for tho I guess, since you have Nicholas as a main? eido...

...inb4managarmr

Kitty
02-26-2019, 02:12 PM
Nandi does not give a big attack boost at only 30%, but gives some 20% extra burst filling rate, so I thought she could be decent as a main Eidolon in a Light burst build I considered - just needs to have lots of friends with Yule Goat, which I have: with Zeal boosted by Nandi, how fast could I Full Burst things?

Giving Berserk as her summon effect, though, beats the purpose of building up burst meter, as one kami wouldn't burst while in Berserk... but then again maybe that hypothetical build would Full Burst so often I will never need more than 10 turns to finish enemies off, and I could avoid using her Summon Attack altogether. Thoughts?

in a light burst build, Nandi would be useless... the 20% burst thing probably gives like an extra 2 burst per hit or something trash like that. the burst building is up to the kamis, while you need strong eidos with elemental bonuses rather than char atk.
her rampage summon can also fuck you up since it's a random ally she gives it to. whether it lasts for 1-3 turns, can also fuck over a full burst if you use it at the wrong time... similar to dizzy, fucks you up sometimes.
better to avoid her summon unless you really need some extra damage from ANYONE. the ideal situation to use it in would be just before an enemy is about to wipe you out and you need some extra damage to take her to stun or something.

keep her as a sub eido if you want higher stats/overall atk, otherwise sell her and wait for Kinshi who actually gives all ally zeal as a summon just like Yule Goat.

Geo
02-26-2019, 02:35 PM
I see why Nandi is not good at all (maybe the saving grace only being her stats). But anyways, let's go to the math I used:

Each attack gives 10 burst. With Nandi, it would be 12. In hypothesis, given one kami who attacks only once each turn and never gets attacked by the enemy, that character would burst every 10 turns. With Nandi, she'd burst every 9 (12x9) turns.

The Zeal from Yule Goat gives 5 burst every turn, during 3 turns, so lets just consider it a +15 burst effect. If Nandi would increase the Zeal to 6 burst each turn (which I don't know whether she does), it would be +18 burst. The hipothetical kami that never does combos would burst every 7 turns (12x7 +18). Considering combos and enemies who aren't immobille, it is realistically a FB every 6, 5 or even 3 turns (2 triple attacks or 3 doubles, +boosted Zeal).

Kitty
02-26-2019, 02:54 PM
well, i said probably. i'm not sure how much her burst thing gives each ally per hit, but hypothetically it's probably low. the only good thing about her is the stats, so sub eido or nothing if you have higher girls.

also, just checked and her rampage is just 1T, so it's safe to use only after using allies abilities if you want an extra bit of damage on a random girls' hit... and OH! after reading a comment on DMM page, it is INDEED just a 2 burst gauge increase per hit. so 12 per turn. damn i'm good.

Geo
02-26-2019, 03:18 PM
So Yule Goat beats Nandi in almost every way: passive effect, summon effect, grown woman vs loli (debatable I know). Loses only in the attack stat department, which is a questionable design decision as well:

Flavorwise, how can a cow (albeit a MAD COW who berserks) do more damage than freaking nuclear missiles?

Kitty
02-26-2019, 03:50 PM
would be nice if we had elemental ATK + the burst increase thing, but doubt that'll be a thing... but hey, they have to make some trashy eidos just for us to fodder, right? kek upcoming wise we have some really nice ones at the same time some fucking awful trash.

Unregistered
02-26-2019, 04:07 PM
Probably won't see +element paired with +burst gauge, no. I don't think that they've shaken up the stat pairings yet.
Most of the future event eidolons are, at minimum, stat sticks for the gacha scaling eidolons even if you don't like their passive. Python's the weakest at 1290, second weakest is Abou at 1770, then third weakest is... Stolas at 1860, which gets raised to a viable 2,046 for wind teams. I personally wouldn't be so casual about foddering the upcoming stuff. Except maybe Python. Python's hard to defend.

Itoshira
02-26-2019, 08:39 PM
Kinshi IS Elemental Attack + BG Increase!

Herc can have 15BG per attack during her buffs, while Shingen will sit at 14.5 thanks to her passive effect. For everyone else, if you have a lot of buffs for combo attacks, then you cut down on 1 attack overall. In some cases that is enough to Burst a turn earlier. It kinda depends if you can make use of the extra 2BG per attack or not.

Unregistered
02-26-2019, 09:20 PM
Huh, interesting, so they did change the stat pairing up. And changed the amount too; Kinshi's +40% as opposed to Nandi's +30%.
Actually, now that I look at things again, they've done similarly with the +attack/+15% defense pairing. Iwanagahime and Python are at +30% element, while Stolas and dark Iwanagahime are at +40% character.

Kitty
02-27-2019, 02:25 AM
damn Kinshi is better than I thought then. I assumed she was char ATK. glad I have her MLB on DMM.

Laventale
03-09-2019, 01:16 PM
Sticky + 10 characters

Maria
03-09-2019, 07:07 PM
OwO can't wait for the 3k Jewels and crippling pulls

Keyen
03-10-2019, 01:36 AM
I have to admit I do not know the drill about the rewards I should focus on, especially as a new player. I will try to get the gun (and maybe one copy of the eidolon for... research purpose...), but after that... Tickets? Gems?

Slashley
03-10-2019, 02:24 AM
I have to admit I do not know the drill about the rewards I should focus on, especially as a new player. I will try to get the gun (and maybe one copy of the eidolon for... research purpose...), but after that... Tickets? Gems?"As much as you can" is a good idea. Pots are high priority since they allow you to farm more.

But unless you can farm Ultimates, please don't expect all that much. The Eidolon and the first SSR weapon are pretty cheap now, so you can probably farm those even from Expert, but otherwise...

Keyen
03-10-2019, 02:44 AM
Hum. I checked the stats of the runs, TBH, I expected worse. Ultimate has like around 1 million hp, looks doable. Are the looks deceptive and they are usually harder, or with my current 24K power (+ belial + the growth I have have until the start of the event), I may be able to do it?

QXZ
03-10-2019, 09:44 PM
is it just me or are the wpns in this event fodder material? assault elaborate and assault barrage? looks kinda weak.

anyone got a TLDR on whats good here?

Unregistered
03-10-2019, 10:25 PM
is it just me or are the wpns in this event fodder material? assault elaborate and assault barrage? looks kinda weak.

anyone got a TLDR on whats good here?

Better than raid SR kek

Cobblemaniac
03-10-2019, 11:44 PM
is it just me or are the wpns in this event fodder material? assault elaborate and assault barrage? looks kinda weak.

anyone got a TLDR on whats good here?

Nandi.

That's it really.

Kitty
03-11-2019, 12:34 AM
is it just me or are the wpns in this event fodder material? assault elaborate and assault barrage? looks kinda weak.

anyone got a TLDR on whats good here?

nothin but the jewels lad.

Slashley
03-11-2019, 01:26 AM
is it just me or are the wpns in this event fodder material? assault elaborate and assault barrage? looks kinda weak.

anyone got a TLDR on whats good here?They're both double-skill Assault SSRs, so they're not THAT bad. The problem is, Light has been fed a ton of even stronger double-skill Assault SSRs (like Assault/Defender), so for veterans, these weapons might have a rough time finding a spot.

Geo
03-11-2019, 02:02 PM
Kinda new player, started back in November. As such, I will try and get, in order of priority:

Nandi
Raid Gacha Tickets
SR Weapons (before the SSRs because these don't require that much materials anyway)
SSR Weapons
Magic Jewels
Soul Points
The other tickets (they tend to be only overcosted R fodder)

But I can see why an older player would only chill and get the Jewels, as the Eidolon and Weapons are underwhelming if one got better stuff from earlier events.

Kitty
03-11-2019, 02:28 PM
Kinda new player, started back in November. As such, I will try and get, in order of priority:

Nandi
Raid Gacha Tickets
SR Weapons (before the SSRs because these don't require that much materials anyway)
SSR Weapons
Magic Jewels
Soul Points
The other tickets (they tend to be only overcosted R fodder)

But I can see why an older player would only chill and get the Jewels, as the Eidolon and Weapons are underwhelming if one got better stuff from earlier events.

you only need to get the SR assault weapons... defender ones only if you manage to get the SSR ones successfully and have materials left over.
Nandi is pretty cheap, so she won't be hard... Jewels are important as hell though. I hope you can farm as much as you can. GL

Keyen
03-11-2019, 02:46 PM
A bit similar, my goals:
-The half pots
-Nandi
-The SR axe (because I really need weapons :/)
-Raid SR tickets
-Magic jewels
-Soul points if I have excess.

And if I can manage:
-the SSR hammer (because the gun is way too expensive at this stage for me)

Kitty
03-12-2019, 09:52 AM
feels good to have no Nike on battles now... was able to use 1K AP on the event so far without one.

Bedevil
03-12-2019, 05:35 PM
feels bad looking at two perfectly good fodder ssr for fbl weapons, but knowing i need to pick atleast one of them up cuz my light grid is trashcanerino

Unregistered
03-13-2019, 12:03 AM
naberius is amazing for the r clear mission since the zombie effect would deal 2M damage at stun
also chaos does 100k damage

Unregistered
03-13-2019, 01:45 AM
naberius is amazing for the r clear mission since the zombie effect would deal 2M damage at stun

You mean 100k for ULT, since you're talking about mission. For 0AP it's 200k.

Unregistered
03-13-2019, 09:50 AM
New player here, got a few questions about the Demonic Cores. I only came back during Typhon rematch where I was not strong enough to do Rag. This time around I'm able to complete Rags and get the Demonic Cores. So my question is, is it worth it using the cores to get draconic eye shards over using them on both Typhon and Nandi SSR weapons? My light grid is heavily lacking in SSRs so I will be grabbing both weapons.

Kitty
03-13-2019, 09:52 AM
New player here, got a few questions about the Demonic Cores. I only came back during Typhon rematch where I was not strong enough to do Rag. This time around I'm able to complete Rags and get the Demonic Cores. So my question is, is it worth it using the cores to get draconic eye shards over using them on both Typhon and Nandi SSR weapons? My light grid is heavily lacking in SSRs so I will be grabbing both weapons.

since you can exchange them for shards even after the events are over, just save them until you know what to do with them. you need them for FLBing weapons, which is much more common than using draconic eyes to awaken certain himes.

Unregistered
03-13-2019, 10:09 AM
Alright thank you.

Unregistered
03-15-2019, 03:33 AM
This actually looks pretty fun. I might try this:

https :// www (dot)youtube (dot)com /watch?v=NSndEsSp_uo


(unregistered can't post links...)

Kitty
03-15-2019, 03:38 AM
This actually looks pretty fun. I might try this:
(unregistered can't post links...)

to save everyone the trouble, here you go :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSndEsSp_uo

EDIT: WAIT A MINUTE YOU'RE BANNED

Unregistered
03-15-2019, 03:50 AM
EDIT: WAIT A MINUTE YOU'RE BANNED

that guy was banned? why?

Kitty
03-15-2019, 03:52 AM
that guy was banned? why?

cuz drama and lavendaddy was in a bad mood.

Keyen
03-15-2019, 04:33 AM
Event went pretty well, finished Nandi, the SSR hammer, the Raid SR tickets, and now, I have only the magic jewels and the soul points remaining. Everything without using that much half pot (I will end the event with 275~).

Not sure about the SR weapons and the regular tickets.

AutoCrimson
03-15-2019, 06:11 AM
mjews should be gathered. tix as well. sr - fodder can always be useful, but the choice is yours obviously

Keyen
03-15-2019, 03:21 PM
According to my excel sheet, I will soon enter the tough spot where I have 3 mats in large excess and the (should be) most common mat (the ribbon) missing out.

Does a solution exist (conversion, changing the difficulty level because the loot table is different, etc), or i'm out of luck and I will finish the event with incredible excess in the other 3 mats?

I was expecting the horns to be the main problem, but no, I get on average 7 horns for 5 ribbons despite them being of the same rarity.

kyc992
03-15-2019, 03:39 PM
Ultimate still has the best amount received:ap spent ratio. The excessive amount of T2/3/4 leftover is mainly because exchanges requiring T1 material is much common, and often in higher quantities per exchange.

Keyen
03-18-2019, 12:27 PM
Welp, this event was fun. I was able to see my progress in a pretty funny way.
The whole event was done with the same team all the time (and they were max level from the beginning).
D1: "Fuck, the expert is already so hard, no way I can do ultimate"
D2: "Ok, i start to manage the expert well enough, let's try ulti... What, a character died TURN ONE AGAINST TRASHS?"
D3: "Wut, after few tries with friend belial, I managed to finish the ultimate, got this quest matey!"
D4: "Wait, even if I die sometimes, ultimate is not that hard actually"
D5: "I can even farm it reliably! Look at that, I was able to do the R-only ultimate quest!"
D6: "Wait, why Nandi is already dead, it was turn 2?"

I positively looted the event shop:
-Eidolon obviously
-Both SSR weapons
-600 Soul points (It was so helpful, I was able to unlock D'Artagnan mid event, and sniper shot helped so much...)
-3000 magic jewels
-20 half pot
-Every ticket
-And 10 grimoires of apotheosis.