Tower Megatread

[Cobblemaniac]

I figured this thread would help consolidating all the tower stuff instead of making a new thread every time a new tower comes out. Like in the GO megathread I made, the thread's main page will contain all the info I've translated about tower from DMM wiki and a couple of videos I've found on tower. In addition to having a place to infodump, feel free to discuss tower stuff here as well.

Current/ Upcoming tower

Light:
https://pastebin.com/RxaWmEN5


Past towers

Thunder
https://pastebin.com/BxfZsrkr

Water:
https://pastebin.com/EFZ1pf8u

Wind:
https://pastebin.com/nfhEHy6u

I didn't make a tl for fire tower, so just give me another 10 more months before I'll get to translating that because fire tower reprint.

[Unregistered]

Wow... people ask you to translate the tower stuff and nobody says thanks to you.
You poor guy!

Let those people burn in the hell.

[QXZ]

Thanks Cobble!

[Slashley]

So, my setup for Wind Tower:
https://i.imgur.com/m1OCtb3.png

Now, since several people have claimed they just used my Water Tower setup as-is (HOW?!? Why?!?), a couple of things to note:
1. I don't think that I can do particularly well in this Tower, so I've done this very haphazardly. I don't know what my Fire Hime even do, man.
2. I am going to experiment in this tower going full Solomon. Never go full Solomon, man.
3. This is based on Cobble's work (much thanks!) and slightly DMM wiki page for the second Wind Tower, since I didn't even bother to rollback to the first one.
In other words... don't use my setup. Like, seriously.

[Unregistered]

Helpful as always, cheers!

[tyu]

I really liked the method of playing on specific days to use all himes without worry. This is for reference

Day
1
2 x
3
4
5 x
6
7
8 x

[Cobblemaniac]

Having Kishar on your 14F setup will really help things out. <br />
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Battle plan is quite simple: <br />
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Whack boss till she's almost raging. Bonus points if she's at max charge. <br />
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Put up Kishar guard. <br />
...

[Bear]

15F

Uhh, I know you're fooling around but you do realize that Dysnomia's random hit trigger is special in that it counts as separate attack per hit right? As in, if the first hit kills Kishar, she will die immediately and the remaining 3 hits will target the others. She won't be able to tank all 4 hits for your team if she doesn't survive the first 3 hits.

[Slashley]

Having Kishar on your 14F setup will really help things out.
--After the very first Tower where the 15F boss Trigger wiped my entire party (well, almost), I'm much more scared of 15F than 14F. If I had two Guards, yes, I would. But I only have one Guard for Fire, and as such, I'm bringing it to 15F.

How nice would it be to have SR Nergal...
Uhh, I know you're fooling around but you do realize that Dysnomia's random hit trigger is special in that it counts as separate attack per hit right? As in, if the first hit kills Kishar, she will die immediately and the remaining 3 hits will target the others. She won't be able to tank all 4 hits for your team if she doesn't survive the first 3 hits.I actually didn't know that, no.
Still, Kishar will have -50% damage reduction up, and thus hopefully eat at least two, if not three hits.

[Cobblemaniac]

Quick correction on 11F:

Miniboss heals for 1m HP, not 100k, as her 50% trigger.

[Torkov]

Just for info, the event end today at 12:59 PDT, not at midnight, thanks to our union member Spyhop to notice it.

[Cobblemaniac]

Quick update. 15F stage 1 middle mob's trigger is 15% HP.

[Delete]

I'm quite happy with this Tower. 10.010 points. I tried off-element the boss with the last key, but should have returned to lower floors and gain a few points losed for taking to long to end. Anyway, I'm quite proud with my mark ^^

[artista]

12413

Amaterasu actually hit a def down lel

[Delete]

On my case landed a combo attack down from Azathoth Eidolon. The affliction resist is very high, but is not inmunity

[Slashley]

Ahahaha oh my god what an AWFUL result. 9510 Medals.

Wiped F13 due to just lack of any planning. Like, easy win had I brought Amon or anything really. And then I wiped F15 since Shingen can't take hits, would've easily completed it with Herc. Also, Solomon is fairly good even in F12, assuming you bring in proper planning, which I didn't. Probably as gear progresses, even higher than that. Lessons learned, that's why I experimented in this Tower.

And I sure hope nobody was copying my Hime setup this time (I WARNED YOU), not only was F13 a mess due to overestimating my damage output (pfft surely that Trigger won't go off, right? Haha, WRONG), but I even noticed that I put Agni into both F11 and F14. That won't work, now will it.

[Chrestomancy]

Thanks Cobble!

Also Thanks Slashey, although your helpful strategy tips are not really relevant to me this time as my Fire team are hot trash (Gomenasai, Amon-sama!) I didn't even attempt 14 even though I had a key, no point pushing with zero chance when there's an easy 250 points further down the tree.

On the plus side, I'm 8000 points scored and likely to make top-thousand or so to get me to that 10k finish line. Having no hope of hitting the top levels stops me from self-sabotaging, like I did with my excellent Thunder and Water hime teams. Overconfidence is not a problem this time.

Weakness is my superpower!

[Geo]

Yeah, this Tower was pretty brutal to my Fire team as well.

I spent 3 keys to defeat 13F, I should have admitted my weakness instead and tried to ace the lower floors for missing points and improve my score overall. Lessons learned.

[AutoCrimson]

And I sure hope nobody was copying my Hime setup this time (I WARNED YOU)
your setup was okay, but 13 floor was your "overusing of SR/R"
whatever, i was drunk enough to even forget to use my main fire team at all in da event

on a side note, that line in your sheet 'bout "dont forget collecting 2 keys every day" - you can just take whole amount of keys in the day you decide to go, no need to be "Every".

[tidalwake]

Why did the event end so early.... Kinda got screwed since I can't play until later in the day.

[Wolfheinirich]

Why did the event end so early.... Kinda got screwed since I can't play until later in the day.

Same here, was expecting it to end midnight...

[Wolfheinirich]

Hmm, I thought we are supposed to be able to view the ranking reward after the event, why can't I find it anywhere?

[Slashley]

Why did the event end so early.... Kinda got screwed since I can't play until later in the day.Last day of Tower always ends early. Always. Many people get fucked by it.

Not sure how it works on DMM.
Hmm, I thought we are supposed to be able to view the ranking reward after the event, why can't I find it anywhere?Wait for after reset.

[Torkov]

https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1124176424246505472

[Unregistered]

I don't have idea why I was unranked but I hope it return after maintenance
I mean I got 7k tower medal and I was outranked?
sound weird to me

[Chrestomancy]

Maintenance has happened and I still don’t have ranking rewards. Anybody else with the same problem?

[AutoCrimson]

yup, they fucked up again.

[Unregistered]

Ingame news says they're still working on it

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know what the next tower is?

[Slashley]

Does anyone know what the next tower is?The encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PhfOAQk6EyK5l33ux_C4T-cexVIQp6D-_Hbd-OO1OmQ/edit#gid=1090858479) gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming events.

It's Thunder Tower.

[Torkov]

12453
meh...

[Slashley]

12453
meh...That's in addition to actual Tower rewards. Make sure you pick them up.


Rank 124 for me. Not even top100. That's what I get for fucking around too much and not completing 15F.

[Unregistered]

9170 lands me at rank 225
Better than I expected; my original plan was to finish with floor 13 (using 2x teams to get through 11-13). But I ended up able to clear 13 in one shot and my best fire team was able to handle 14.

[Slashley]

So, Wind Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
01. Error 404 Not Found 10790 [66k,278H,120E] (Drama Club)
02. Sirocco 10780 [68k,267H,110E] (Drama Club)
03. igt 10770 [76k,260H,120E] (Perfection)
04. idunno 10760 [70k,268H,120E] (Axis Mundi)
05. No Longer Active 10740 [??k,253H,??E] (??)
06. GiveMeHammer 10730 [62k,275H,100E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. Crest 10730 [57k,247H,110E] (Double Dz)
06. Sora 10730 [57k,210H,110E] (Susurrus)
09. SlickFenix 10720 [54k,244H,100E] (Godtamers)
10. Madnug 10710 [70k,281H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
10. Div 10710 [59k,211H,120E] (Godtamers)
10. Meaqua 10710 [58k,232H,110E] (Perfection)
10. K 10710 [52k,218H,100E] (Susurrus)
14. Shiro 10700 [56k,206H,55C] (Ixion)
15. LifusNonexisticus 10690 [66k,208H,105E] (Kami Sutra)
15. Dunhere 10690 [49k,237H,100E] (Susurrus)
15. Vinh 10690 [60k,159H,100E] (Isekai)
18. Bigglack 10680 [50k,227H,60E] (Drama Club)
18. Mira 10680 [59k,248H,70C] (Drama Club)
18. kirito 10680 [52k,176H,45E] (Drama Club)
[Atk in k,Hime count,Eidolon as shown in Friendlist(E for Elemental and C for Character)]Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

[Unregistered]

So, Wind Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
01. Error 404 Not Found 10790 [66k,278H,120E] (Drama Club)
02. Sirocco 10780 [68k,267H,110E] (Drama Club)
03. igt 10770 [76k,260H,120E] (Perfection)
04. idunno 10760 [70k,268H,120E] (Axis Mundi)
05. No Longer Active 10740 [??k,253H,??E] (??)
06. GiveMeHammer 10730 [62k,275H,100E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. Crest 10730 [57k,247H,110E] (Double Dz)
06. Sora 10730 [57k,210H,110E] (Susurrus)
09. SlickFenix 10720 [54k,244H,100E] (Godtamers)
10. Madnug 10710 [70k,281H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
10. Div 10710 [59k,211H,120E] (Godtamers)
10. Meaqua 10710 [58k,232H,110E] (Perfection)
10. K 10710 [52k,218H,100E] (Susurrus)
14. Shiro 10700 [56k,206H,55C] (Ixion)
15. LifusNonexisticus 10690 [66k,208H,105E] (Kami Sutra)
15. Dunhere 10690 [49k,237H,100E] (Susurrus)
15. Vinh 10690 [60k,159H,100E] (Isekai)
18. Bigglack 10680 [50k,227H,60E] (Drama Club)
18. Mira 10680 [59k,248H,70C] (Drama Club)
18. kirito 10680 [52k,176H,45E] (Drama Club)
[Atk in k,Hime count,Eidolon as shown in Friendlist(E for Elemental and C for Character)]Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

Most of those guys are in one of the Top 5 Unions and have a Belial.
I managed to get 10.660 medals but how do you even get 10.730-10.790? o.O

[Slashley]

Most of those guys are in one of the Top 5 Unions and have a Belial.
I managed to get 10.660 medals but how do you even get 10.730-10.790? o.O10800 is the maximum I believe. It means that Error 404 did floors 1-14 in 4 turns or less, and 15F in 9 turns or less.

[Gludateton]

Even better, it means he did 15F within 4T at least once (remember that 15F has to be done twice).

[Unregistered]

Most of those guys are in one of the Top 5 Unions and have a Belial.
I managed to get 10.660 medals but how do you even get 10.730-10.790? o.O

More like most of them from DC kek

[Cobblemaniac]

Thunder tower tl is live.

[Slashley]

Thunder tower tl is live.You utter monster. Good job.

[Cobblemaniac]

Tower starts 28th June.

Prepare your anuses.

[Slashley]

Tower starts 28th June.

Prepare your anuses.I will prepare my sinuses, since I doubt I'll do all that much better this time around.

Much thanks on your hard work on the guides again, by the way.

[Chrestomancy]

Thanks, Cobbie!

After doing better with my weakest team last time, I'm going to try to learn my lesson. Better to be sure of a win than maintain that on-element bonus. G'luck all

[Slashley]

So, my Thunder Tower setup:
https://i.imgur.com/RcOIojA.png
I know I'm very late, but real life and work has kept me very busy. And the little time that I had I spent on trying to farm Delphys.
Some notes, as usual:
1. This is based entirely on Cobble's translation. I haven't really bothered to cross-reference him with the DMM wiki, so if there's any mistakes, they're clearly all his fault, mmmk?
2. I noticed that Wind has some god AWFUL Hime quality outside of SSRs. I had some serious trouble trying to fill up slots for this Tower. Too bad I don't have Wind Rami.
3. On a related note to #2, be VERY wary of debuffing enemies in this Tower. This means take floors 8, 9, 13 and 14 seriously. Wind's sources of Cleanse: Soul's EX skill, Set (SSR), Wind Poseidon (Limited SSR, debuff prevention instead of Cleanse), Wind Apep (Limited R) and Behemoth (Eidolon, takes a good amount of time to be available).

Since I couldn't get 10k points for Wind Kaiser, I'm pretty sure I'll fall a bit short of completing all missions. Hopefully I'll at least get to top100 this time, sheesh.

PS. As usual, don't just copy my setup. For your own good. Make your own plans.

[Unregistered]

The event banner says it ends at 23:59. Last tower i got burned because i didn't realize it ended at 12. Does anyone know if they really changed the ending time or is it still 12 and the banner is wrong?

[nut]

Yeah, they changed it a lot, last one is 12, first one is 20...

[Slashley]

The event banner says it ends at 23:59. Last tower i got burned because i didn't realize it ended at 12. Does anyone know if they really changed the ending time or is it still 12 and the banner is wrong?To be safe, assume that the last day is shorter.

[Kitty]

heeeeeeey das pretty goooddddddd


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkygBsfAP-0

[Slashley]

Since I have a loooooooong shift in the evening, I had to get to do 11-15F Tower immediately after reset.

9900 Medals. Failed on-element F15 run despite having Gaia.
I underestimated the Rage Restraint spam and got entirely rekt by it. Should've just forgotten about being able to Full Burst (since non-Rage OD WILL remove one character from Bursting) and Bursted the Rage bar down. I thought I'd have the damage output to take the Rage bar down since Gaia could keep me alive for quite the while, but nope, once first Rage OD came around it was just zero damage output.

Aside from that, went quite well. Much better than what I expected.

[nut]

Got 10710 medal this tower, I'm planning to do 15F within 9 turn by do a burst of 3 in stage 2 and get ready to full burst in stage 3 but Gaia got enough bg so have to hold the burst. Also I'm keep forgot to use Aether 3rd ability.
12675
My 9F to 15F playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrHLqvFUQq8&list=PLlkpedQmzEJl-_c5XIpKpSyQ9Td3XMB3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrHLqvFUQq8&list=PLlkpedQmzEJl-_c5XIpKpSyQ9Td3XMB3o

[Gludateton]

First tower event I completed all missions, which is pretty good result (at least for me), especially when comparing it to my wind tower flop. It was also nice confusing people by using Solomon on 15F on wind team (actually both teams).
10670 medals in total.

[Slashley]

First tower event I completed all missions, which is pretty good result (at least for me), especially when comparing it to my wind tower flop. It was also nice confusing people by using Solomon on 15F on wind team (actually both teams).
10670 medals in total.Even my FULL SOLOMON run last time didn't use Solomon in 15F.

So uh, what was the grand plan of 15F Solomon? I guess it'll give you an easy way through wave1, but after that...?

[Gludateton]

Off element was Solomon/Atum/Tishtrya combo, because I pretty much don't have anything better. There are people (person) using it better, but it worked for me. Also bonus points for Attar getting most of defensive measures for 65% trigger (DEF accessories, DEF buff, revive from Atum, Wind Kaiser and Tish buff) only to get hit by one beam, because rest missed.
Wind was more of a spontaneous choice, because I was planning to go with Herc, but then realised Herc PF doesn't work that well with Aether and 4 exceed weapons in grid. I considered other ex skills, but then though "fuck it, let's go with Solomon again" and here we are.

[Chrestomancy]

8990 points. I completed every level first attempt, missed every single 5-girls-survive objective, and completely failed to get anywhere on floor 15. But then, I'd used all my best himes on floors 13 and 14 to get there, so not a big surprise. Overall I'm very happy with that result. I also don't have a weapon crying out for the limit break this time. I might just save them in case something good shows up. Thanks as always to all the commenters here, especially you Slashey - I don't have your kh line up, but your notes help me focus on what I need.

I was most proud this time on my floor 12 "total immunity" grid. Didn't even need it (boss kill before ouigi) but always nice to know I can field a team who is un-killable for a turn.
(edit - ouigi not burst)

[Unregistered]

aaaand it's gone

Does it take time to calculate the ranking tho?
Last time was a bug

[Slashley]

Off element was Solomon/Atum/Tishtrya combo, because I pretty much don't have anything better.--Could you enlighten me about this? Since gacha has neglected my Light team, I'm a Light idiot who doesn't really know how shit works. Having a glance at their skills, I don't see how this combo works... though I think Atum got buffed and I haven't had the time to update the Encyclopedia yet, so that doesn't help.
-- Thanks as always to all the commenters here, especially you Slashey - I don't have your kh line up, but your notes help me focus on what I need.--You're welcome, but remember that my work is based on Cobble's work. Which is based on the work of people who bother updating DMM wiki.



IN OTHER NEWS.
The Tower link is gone, and in its place is a "materials exchange shop" link that Nikes when you click on it. So we're going to need a sorcerer to do that direct event linking again.

[nut]

Could you enlighten me about this? Since gacha has neglected my Light team, I'm a Light idiot who doesn't really know how shit works. Having a glance at their skills, I don't see how this combo works... though I think Atum got buffed and I haven't had the time to update the Encyclopedia yet, so that doesn't help.You're welcome, but remember that my work is based on Cobble's work. Which is based on the work of people who bother updating DMM wiki.



IN OTHER NEWS.
The Tower link is gone, and in its place is a "materials exchange shop" link that Nikes when you click on it. So we're going to need a sorcerer to do that direct event linking again.

Tower direct link:
https://cf.r.kamihimeproject.dmmgames.com/front/cocos2d-proj/components-pc/tower/app.html#!/tower_top?option=%7B%22tower_top%22%3A%7B%22id%22% 3A6042%2C%22navigate_page%22%3A%22tower%2Ftower_to p%22%2C%22event_id%22%3A5014%7D%7D&temporary=%7B%22event_id%22%3A5014%7D
Looking forward for some compensation :silly:

[Dejnov]

Could you enlighten me about this? Since gacha has neglected my Light team, I'm a Light idiot who doesn't really know how shit works. Having a glance at their skills, I don't see how this combo works... though I think Atum got buffed and I haven't had the time to update the Encyclopedia yet, so that doesn't help.You're welcome, but remember that my work is based on Cobble's work. Which is based on the work of people who bother updating DMM wiki.



IN OTHER NEWS.
The Tower link is gone, and in its place is a "materials exchange shop" link that Nikes when you click on it. So we're going to need a sorcerer to do that direct event linking again.


Solomon has an AOE attack with the Lemegoton Key that's an ability attack that can be refreshed once for free. Atum has a +100% ability buff (and also increase the max cap by 50%) and also a vigor (+50% buff) that stacks with that. That can be a fairly strong AOE (x2) in any battle. Tish give +50% Crit, (near certain to go off with Solomon's rings) and C-frame +50% ATK. They all stack.


Dejnov.


P.S. I also believe this is why, for Light, Medea is the required T4 soul to aim for. Bear's mentioned (I think) having an 8Mil AOE attack with her. You'd need Atum and Tish for their buffs to make it happen though.

[ChronosNotashi]

Link

Okay, I tried that link. Couldn't get rewards from it. Either they haven't actually updated the ranking rewards (though I think the ranking it showed for me was accurate), or a completely different link is needed.

[Raistlansol]

Okay, I tried that link. Couldn't get rewards from it. Either they haven't actually updated the ranking rewards (though I think the ranking it showed for me was accurate), or a completely different link is needed.

You can't get rewards, only see the rankings of the top 20 / your own rank. Need them to unbug it to get rewards.

[Slashley]

So, Thunder Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

1. Sirocco 10800 [66k,287H,115E] (Drama Club)
2. Axis is recruiting 10770 [62k,279H,120E] (Axis Mundi)
3. Bam 10760 [78k,298H,140E] (Drama Club)
4. Red 10750 [61k,262H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
5. nonsensei 10740 [59k,228H,45E] (Drama Club)
5. igt 10740 [76k,281H,105E] (Perfection)
7. goro56 10730 [72k,285H,125E] (NHO)
7. xm67 10730 [60k,266H,100E] (RedPhantom)
7. BadRiddance 10730 [42k,230H,60C] (Susurrus)
10. Creedmoor 10720 [61k,269H,100E] (DarkHell)
10. Mira 10720 [64k,266H,100E] (Drama Club)
10. VERYVOODOO 10720 [66k,213H,45E] (Ixion)
10. Meaqua 10720 [55k,247H,100E] (Perfection)
10. Jaded 10720 [66k,268H,105E] (DarkHell)
15. Kalin 10710 [57k,251H,65C] (NooBreaker)
15. SlickFenix 10710 [55k,267H,100E] (Godtamers)
15. nutchai 10710 [56k,189H,100E] (Wind Sough)
15. Xellosp 10710 [58k,238H,50E] (=Akatsuki=)
15. Madnug 10710 [60k,306H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
15. raistlan 10710 [60k,252H,125E] (Drama Club)
15. GibFireMammon 10710 [68k,231H,45E] (Susurrus)
15. TrueRayS 10710 [64k,189H,110E] (Isekai)
15. kirito 10710 [57k,207H,45E] (Drama Club)
[Atk in k,Hime count,Eidolon as shown in Friendlist(E for Elemental and C for Character)]Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

Congrats to Sirocco for being the first person on Nutaku to pull off a perfect score. Good job.
Meanwhile, I didn't even reach top100 again~

[Delete]

At least we know the rank. Thanks, Nut
As I expected, this is my first team failing to get top 100, I ended 144. I try to be competent on all teams, but I suck at wind. :(

[Gludateton]

Could you enlighten me about this?
It's pretty much as Dejnov has said. You combine Tish's 50% ATK (crit not that great on off element) and Atum's 100% Abi dmg up, 50% Abi cap up, 50% vigor buff with Solomon's double nuke thing for some nice spike damage (with well timed FB you can make it even higher).
Bonus points for Tish here for making team not turtle slow and pretty potent evasion buff (3 of 4 hits of 65% trigger missing were obviously lucky, but you can expect at least one miss I guess).

[Slashley]

Solomon has an AOE attack with the Lemegoton Key that's an ability attack that can be refreshed once for free. Atum has a +100% ability buff (and also increase the max cap by 50%) and also a vigor (+50% buff) that stacks with that. That can be a fairly strong AOE (x2) in any battle. Tish give +50% Crit, (near certain to go off with Solomon's rings) and C-frame +50% ATK. They all stack.Oh fuck, I completely missed this post while I was making the Tower rankings.

How the fuck does Crit work with Solomon Ring?!? Only one hit out of six is an advantageous element, are you saying you can crit off-element if the character is on-element? Jesus christ that's retarded as fuck. I guess everyone who doesn't MT for Light is just fucked, then. That's nice.

[Raistlansol]

Oh fuck, I completely missed this post while I was making the Tower rankings.

How the fuck does Crit work with Solomon Ring?!? Only one hit out of six is an advantageous element, are you saying you can crit off-element if the character is on-element? Jesus christ that's retarded as fuck. I guess everyone who doesn't MT for Light is just fucked, then. That's nice.

Wrong ability. It's Spearhead Arrow he's talking about, that's the one that becomes AOE with her soul weapon.

[Slashley]

Wrong ability. It's Spearhead Arrow he's talking about, that's the one that becomes AOE with her soul weapon.He did specifically say Solomon Ring, but fair enough then.

It's still a really strong combo though, as Atum will make each Ring hit for 400%->500% (25% increase), and then Vigor effectively makes it 750%, nearly doubling damage output.

[Dejnov]

He did specifically say Solomon Ring, but fair enough then.

It's still a really strong combo though, as Atum will make each Ring hit for 400%->500% (25% increase), and then Vigor effectively makes it 750%, nearly doubling damage output.

Yup Spearhead Arrow... I got that wrong sorry. But the same principle stands. The Crit chance, Vigor, ATK chance, and ability buff all stack (and it's AOE, twice).


Definitely a tactic for Light.


Dejnov.

[nut]

A quick ranking list from dmm_eng and taiwan servers for comparison, look like their top one is still a little behind us
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2019/07/09/yLW.png

"rank":1,"player_name":"垃圾日天沒一個能打嗎?","got_token":10750,
"rank":2,"player_name":"原地豹炸的白墟","got_token":10740,
"rank":2,"player_name":"tiangou","got_token":10740,
"rank":2,"player_name":"ミハエル","got_token":10740,
"rank":5,"player_name":"劍帝萊維","got_token":10730,
"rank":5,"player_name":"Kutar","got_token":10730,
"rank":5,"player_name":"bananice~","got_token":10730,
"rank":8,"player_name":"ホンコン人","got_token":10720,
"rank":8,"player_name":"思源","got_token":10720,
"rank":10,"player_name":"乂煞氣hpw乂","got_token":10710,
"rank":10,"player_name":"一花四叶全都要の羽根","got_token":10710,
"rank":10,"player_name":"remu","got_token":10710,
"rank":10,"player_name":"CCTV-1","got_token":10710,
"rank":14,"player_name":"麻油雞","got_token":10700,
"rank":14,"player_name":"百鬼夜行","got_token":10700,
"rank":14,"player_name":"碎の月","got_token":10700,
"rank":14,"player_name":"No-wayXXX","got_token":10700,
"rank":14,"player_name":"Healer","got_token":10700,
"rank":19,"player_name":"厲害了我尼姬","got_token":10690,
"rank":19,"player_name":"WrathY","got_token":10690,
"rank":19,"player_name":"ホイの夜","got_token":10690,
"rank":19,"player_name":"bluesword","got_token":10690

[VeryVoodoo]

A quick ranking list from dmm_eng and taiwan servers for comparison, look like their top one is still a little behind us

Interesting. Honestly, I'm surprised my wind made it up there considering I have a grand total of 4 SSRs for wind.

Btw, anyone have a list like that for the JP dmm version of this event as well, from a year ago? Just wondering when their first perfect score showed up.

[nut]

Interesting. Honestly, I'm surprised my wind made it up there considering I have a grand total of 4 SSRs for wind.

Btw, anyone have a list like that for the JP dmm version of this event as well, from a year ago? Just wondering when their first perfect score showed up.

It's actually possible to get the ranking of this tower from dmm sever last year
Here is their thunder tower ranking, 3 perfect score
Overall far above us

"rank":1,"player_name":"新兵でち","got_token":10800,
"rank":1,"player_name":"chrno","got_token":10800,
"rank":1,"player_name":"KSD","got_token":10800,
"rank":4,"player_name":"sd96","got_token":10790,
"rank":4,"player_name":"brionac","got_token":10790,
"rank":4,"player_name":"そうてんおマニア","got_token":10790,
"rank":7,"player_name":"タラサ","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"Erbetie","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"Quien","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"白刃","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"tenpai","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"わんこすぺしゃる","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"ゆうこ","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"白","got_token":10780,
"rank":7,"player_name":"thetis","got_token":10780,
"rank":16,"player_name":"影吉","got_token":10770,
"rank":16,"player_name":"じょぬぅ","got_token":10770,
"rank":16,"player_name":"イリヤ・マナ","got_token":10770,
"rank":16,"player_name":"ソルガディ","got_token":10770,
"rank":16,"player_name":"しらゆき","got_token":10770

Note: this is the first tower dmm server got their perfect score too, their wind tower rank 1 is 新兵でち with 10780 medal

[VeryVoodoo]

Note: this is the first tower dmm server got their perfect score too, their wind tower rank 1 is 新兵でち with 10780 medal

Ah so perfect scores lined up on the same event. Interesting info again. Wait, so they didn't have perfect scores last tower huh?
That means error's (aka hmyptt) score of 10790 from last tower was the highest for that event overall. :think:
Though it's a bit worrying that he has since quit the game... if mega-whales like him keep quitting, who's gonna keep funding the servers over here...? :fear:

[Unregistered]

Ah so perfect scores lined up on the same event. Interesting info again. Wait, so they didn't have perfect scores last tower huh?
That means error's (aka hmyptt) score of 10790 from last tower was the highest for that event overall. :think:
Though it's a bit worrying that he has since quit the game... if mega-whales like him keep quitting, who's gonna keep funding the servers over here...? :fear:

Bam hard carry

[Cobblemaniac]

Obligatory flex


https://youtu.be/PsaLBgQPO24"]https://youtu.be/PsaLBgQPO24

12794

[Kitty]

me 2 nigga me 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/612636255888605184/unknown.png

17 was super easy compared to 16, lmao

[Cobblemaniac]

Light tower translation is live

[Slashley]

Light tower translation is liveYou utter maniac. Much thanks.

[Laventale]

Light tower translation is live

Absolutely fucking based.

[Delete]

Enemies descriptions on game are untranslated. Is correct having two times the mission to do Balance (stage 8 and 14)? Seems weird.
Also, stage 12 says on game 15 turns, while Cobblemaniac Pastebin (thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks) says 5 turns.
I'm confused.

[Kitty]

Warning to players. Nutaku translations are WRONG.

TL;DR Correct Translation -

1F-6F - 3 Alive
7F - 5 Alive
8F - 2 Balance
10F - 2 Healer
12F - Kill in 5T
13F - 2 Tricky
14F - 2 Balance
15F - 5 Alive, Clear Twice

Nutaku has listed 10F as 2 Defense, which is almost impossible for most players as there is only Cern (SR) + 2 L/E SSR (DAma + DGaia) for Defense for Dark... so stupid, lmao... So, they've either 1. dumbass translation issue, as usual. or 2. literally changed it to make it harder for people. Thanks Nutaku!!

[ArturPL]

I wonder when they will fix it and it's good to know how it really will be

Thx Nana

[Quattro]

Sorry, my previous post was totally wrong..

[Delete]

Then is correct having 2 different missions with Balance? Weird

[AutoCrimson]

Warning to players. Nutaku translations are WRONG.

TL;DR Correct Translation -
Nutaku has listed 10F as 2 Defense, which is almost impossible for most players as there is only Cern (SR) + 2 L/E SSR (DAma + DGaia) for Defense for Dark... so stupid, lmao... So, they've either 1. dumbass translation issue, as usual. or 2. literally changed it to make it harder for people. Thanks Nutaku!!

while im tempted to try it with 2 defense and then file a bug to taco, im 99.99% sure that it's translation issues

[Delete]

The way to be totally sure; go with 2 Defenders and 2 Healers ¡¡ :joy:

[Kitty]

Yeah, unless someone can debunk it beforehand... I'd hate for someone to waste a key by doing the wrong mission because of Nutaku being stupid.
Though if you try with x2 def and x2 healers it'll be a win anyway because it's one or the other. We still won't know which is the correct mission.

Guess I'll just have to yolo and possibly waste a key to find out, because I don't have x2 def and I'm not using off element...

[Slashley]

https://i.imgur.com/VfWvNgE.png
As usual, here is my setup. Now obviously, this is late and super rushed, so I could've make a thousand mistakes with this. Do not trust it. It is also entirely based on Cobble's work, so if there are any mistakes on that part or on Nutaku's part, it's not my fault, mmk.

And as usual, don't use mine, make your own, blah blah blah.

[AutoCrimson]

i said it before, and i'll say it again - you do not need to "grab keys daily". they do stack

[Slashley]

i said it before, and i'll say it again - you do not need to "grab keys daily". they do stackI said it before, and I'll say it again - I don't trust these devs to any further than I can throw them. I am not risking that shit just because it's supposed to work.

[Crow]

Thanks for sharing, it gives a good basis to plan.

[Chrestomancy]

Light tower translation is live

Dude, thanks. There's just too much going on this weekend (tower, guild orders, raid event, Otogi bugfest), you've saved me so much time.

[Slashley]

There was a maintenance a few hours ago, and now Tower Missions match with Cobble's and Kitty's.

In other news, I just noticed that my plan has Ereshkigal on floors 7 and 10. Now that's not going to work, now is it. Thank heavens I have Buer and Theia, or I would've fucked myself over with my rushjob. I hope that doesn't fuck anyone else up... but again, you shouldn't trust my goddamn sheets when I don't put proper effort into them!

[th3 fr4gil3]

:P
i noticed that and had to quickly reassess my line up.
moved the 2 day pause to between 9 and 10 as osiris and eresh are my only two dark healers, will have to wing it from there.

[Slashley]

:P
i noticed that and had to quickly reassess my line up.
moved the 2 day pause to between 9 and 10 as osiris and eresh are my only two dark healers, will have to wing it from there.Doing four days is gonna be rough... good luck.

I swapped Solomon for 9F, and it in 0t. That was... quite unexpected. My Dark Grid is pretty pimp though, your results may vary.
Really should've taken Solomon for 10F as well, took me 4 turns to kill the trash, har har. And two turns to kill the boss. But the restriction of having two Healers made bringing damage dealers and debuffs pretty rough, so oh well.

[th3 fr4gil3]

i spent the last few weeks slowly dragging my dark grid up, everything is now lvl125/slvl20 AND i just noticed i've had herc axe in grid since start of event *facepalm*
*puts apoc lance back in*

[Yseo]

Can we trust Nutaku when it's saying that the event close on October 5th so 1 more day than what we usually get? Extra keys added or not?

[AutoCrimson]

Considering i aab'ed all the floors, my failure on f15 was to be expected.
Still, Slashley, ur chart was okay

[Slashley]

Final score: 10670. Won't be top 20 material, but plenty good enough. A shame that 14F and 15F off-element were 15 turns each, as that could've been an easy 20 points more. Oh well, I try to play it reaaally safe in Tower, no real reason to risk missing rewards just because of tryharding.
Considering i aab'ed all the floors, my failure on f15 was to be expected.I don't know should I salute you or insult you.

But I would like you to know that I am laughing. Good job, good sir.

[Geo]

I am curious about how many medals you AutoCrimson got. Actually, medals are nothing when you got dem bragging rights XD

[VeryVoodoo]

Can we trust Nutaku when it's saying that the event close on October 5th so 1 more day than what we usually get? Extra keys added or not?

If they give out extra keys, the rankings are basically out the window at that point. :rofl:
Because it only benefits those who failed missions to begin with. Those keys can't be used when you've already completed all the missions, so only those who've failed any from the original 16 keys (which is all towers are supposed to give) will gain more ranking points, which illegitimizes the entire ranking rewards part. Since it's basically giving everyone a full clear of the tower at that point... plus those who waited until the last day without doing runs can also use those keys to do "extra" runs off-element or whatnot to gain turn-counter points before finishing all the missions, thus getting extra points that normally couldn't even factor towards the total (could then get more than 10800 even, which is supposed to be the max).

Just the extra day part even if they don't give keys is still a bit weird, because allows people that extra day to reset himes; meaning you could've run f11-f12 with your main himes to easily get those under 4 turns for an extra 20 points, and still have all your himes reset for last day. But meh, I wouldn't even mind that they extended the timer too much... just as long as they don't compound the problem even further by also giving extra keys on top of it. But who knows with these brainless devs. :joy:

[AutoCrimson]

I am curious about how many medals you AutoCrimson got. Actually, medals are nothing when you got dem bragging rights XD

13019

idk why acc with higher medal count is rated lower, tbh


edit - those fucks really gave out 2 more keys

[mustafa]

ftp account 10630 and 66th place, too bad i cant do anything with those two extra keys

[Delete]

I feel quite bad, I made some horrible mistakes and failed the 5 turns and the off-element on 15, and just used the extra keys to complete boths. From 9.760 (aprox) to 10.630, but seems quite undeserved after those errors.

[Kitty]

WOOO two extra keys which means I can actually clear 15F a second time with my dark team now
my trash ranking only beating 15F with my light team and not having any dark girls available until now. I can get 500 more medals!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472913593046925322/629983712414531584/unknown.png

edit -
went in with a shitty SR/R team first to fuck around, then clear it up with my main SSR team... but I almost won with the shitty SR/R team lmao
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472913593046925322/629987629441613824/unknown.png
and with that, my tower is done~
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472913593046925322/629988339960774686/unknown.png

[AutoCrimson]

aye, after spending those 2 keys i came into conclusion that i should've tried f15 with dark, and not with off-element first. since my dark SR/R team aab'ed f15 relatively easy

[blubbergott]

Parsed todays rankings out of curiosity. Tomorrow we'll see who managed to abuse this mess the most. :P
None of the top 20 should have a chance to improve their score legitimately though, as there is no mission that gives 80 points or less.
*Grabs some popcorn and waits for reset*

1 10780 Sirocco 26758
1 10780 BadRiddance 5721128
3 10770 Sora 4800993
4 10760 blubber 4401508
4 10760 Jaded 7206275
6 10740 Kalin 27167
6 10740 Madnug 1542672
6 10740 xelloss1012 1837607
6 10740 AsD2038 7061961
10 10730 Astluh 22645
10 10730 adritk94 35838
10 10730 Bam 591719
10 10730 VERYVOODOO 1318886
10 10730 Xellosp 1341352
10 10730 nonsensei 2068243
10 10730 mlw61520 4053461
10 10730 Kuroi 6043387
18 10720 Shiro 8840
18 10720 ArturPL 83801
18 10720 Mira 149959
18 10720 Rori Juice 1316135
18 10720 ymn 1956084
18 10720 Meaqua 4464699
18 10720 awspe 5096383
18 10720 Geidt 5347086
18 10720 SwampyKong 5538729
18 10720 idkev 6247316

[Slashley]

Well, Light Tower is NOT over, but for future reference, here are the results of the first 16 keys.
Thanks, blubber! *yoink*
01. Sirocco 10780 [64k,315H,100E] (Drama Club)
01. BadRiddance 10780 [53k,280H,100E] (Susurrus)
03. Sora 10770 [76k,296H,100E] (Susurrus)
04. blubber 10760 [74k,296H,60E] (Susurrus)
04. Jaded 10760 [71k,311H,120E] (DarkHell)
06. Kalin 10740 [73k,279H,105E] (NooBreaker)
06. Madnug 10740 [74k,332H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
06. xelloss1012 10740 [62k,305H,115E] (Perfection)
06. AsD2038 10740 [60k,292H,105E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
10. Astluh 10730 [63k,273H,105E] (DarkHell)
10. adritk94 10730 [61k,252H,115E] (=Akatsuki=)
10. Bam 10730 [75k,327H,120?] (Drama Club)
10. VERYVOODOO 10730 [57k,236H,55E] (Ixion)
10. Xellosp 10730 [65k,262H,70C] (=Akatsuki=)
10. nonsensei 10730 [61k,251H,60E] (Drama Club)
10. mlw61520 10730 [64k,255H,60E] (Axis Mundi)
10. Kuroi 10730 [61k,290H,70C] (Susurrus)
18. Shiro 10720 [61k,242H,50E] (Ixion)
18. ArturPL 10720 [64k,270H,120E] (Susurrus)
18. Mira 10720 [64k,290H,105E] (Drama Club)
18. Rori Juice 10720 [65k,254H,105E] (Isekai)
18. ymn 10720 [62k,243H,50E] (Axis Mundi)
18. Meaqua 10720 [67k,274H,60E] (Perfection)
18. awspe 10720 [63k,249H,60E] (Amaterasu)
18. Geidt 10720 [57k,286H,60E] (Drama Club)
18. SwampyKong 10720 [69k,276H,60E] (Terminus)
18. idkev 10720 [66k,225H,45E] (Isekai)Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

I will probably not make a list if any changes happens from the extra two keys Nutaku gave us. If anyone cares about that list, make your own.


In other news:
Final score: 10670. Won't be top 20 material, but plenty good enough. --R-Rank 52? I was not expecting to drop outside of maximum Medals. Who said that Kamihime is a dead game when completing all missions doesn't even net you maximum rewards!
Oh well, I don't see it being worth risking anything. It's better to play it safe and net 15k Medals per Tower than take multiple risks and possibly drop to 14k Medals just because of bad RNG, should still get 15170 Medals from this Tower. Unless the final two keys drop me all the way down to 151st somehow.

[nut]

I was waiting until today to see how many key they give out, got 70 medals bonus with 2 extra keys from f12 and f13 and 10740 medal from the other 16 keys, end up with 10810 medals :rofl:
https://i.harem-battle.club/images/2019/10/06/DxG.png

[Tanukimo]

Final tower rankings:
https://i.imgur.com/P2AlOMD.png
https://imgur.com/Fs0peZu.png
https://imgur.com/UxQSEEZ.png
https://imgur.com/AgT01ZF.png
https://imgur.com/XIcNtv9.png
https://imgur.com/bxq86fl.png

[blubbergott]

Good job violating the terms of service by abusing Direct Link to circumvent the join restrictions!
And this times confirmed cheaters are:

Jaded (DarkHell)
Astluh (DarkHell)
VeryVoodoo (Ixion)
Rori Juice (Isekai)
idkev (Isekai)

Rest weren't top 20 before, so no way to confirm DL abuse.
Funny to see how greedy people are for those medals. ^^

[CryMeARiver]

this guy...

[KitKat]

this guy...


Salty much because you're on the list? :rofl:

[Kitty]

yeah it sucks. people are sad.
but nutaku will never do anything about it... so fuck it :shrug:

[Chrestomancy]

Good job violating the terms of service by abusing Direct Link to circumvent the join restrictions!
And this times confirmed cheaters are:

(Snip!)

Rest weren't top 20 before, so no way to confirm DL abuse.
Funny to see how greedy people are for those medals. ^^

I don’t even know what that means.

And you know? I have enough to be angry about, I probably don’t want to know.

Extra day got me 500 more medals; probably should have gone for the 5 turn kill I missed as well, but was on dregs by then, and my whole strategy was basically careful. Dropped 50 ranking places but didn’t lose any reward tiers, so all in, I’m good with the extra day.

[nut]

Well, the extra day doesn't affect me at all, I got 70 more medals out of it but it doesn't really do anything, and if there is no extra day, my ranking range would still be the same

[Slashley]

Oh, and since it hasn't been posted, for future reference, Nutaku decided to give 1000 Tower Medals for everyone who had at least one unspent Key. Which is an interesting choice, as spending ONE key for ~500 more points would've netted you ~1500 more Medals.

Why not give the compensation to those who had two unspent keys is a mystery, but oh well.

[Crow]

I wonder if 'unspent keys' refers to those who have not claimed the keys... If (like me) you didn't notice the time extension, you didn't even pick up bonus keys ;/

[Tanukimo]

Oh, and since it hasn't been posted, for future reference, Nutaku decided to give 1000 Tower Medals for everyone who had at least one unspent Key. Which is an interesting choice, as spending ONE key for ~500 more points would've netted you ~1500 more Medals.

Why not give the compensation to those who had two unspent keys is a mystery, but oh well.

It was 500 points per key remaining.

[Slashley]

It was 500 points per key remaining.Oh, cool. Okay, that's actually a somewhat fair compensation. It only really screws over those who dropped from top50 into sub50, so not perfect, but a whole lot better than we can usually expect from Nutaku.

And also those who didn't pick up their last keys too, I guess.

[Slashley]

There is less than 24 hours until Dark Tower (I think), and no sight of Cobble. In fact, Cobble hasn't logged into these forums for over a month now.

Did he lose interest in the forums or Kamihime entirely?

[Geo]

Dunno about Cobblemaniac, but we had a series of reprints this last month - Cthuga, Sphinx, Houkei. I spent most of my time doing Epic Quests (which are reprints too..) and farming Disasters and Guardian. If only we had the Haruhi Advent...

So I can understand some vets chilling this November.

[AutoCrimson]

Slashley will post his setup anyways

[Yukarichan]

I am not ready for tower event, very hard event for new player haha

[Slashley]

Slashley will post his setup anywaysI will sure, but it will be even less accurate than before. Not to mention that it'll come late due to not working on it before the Tower goes live.
I am not ready for tower event, very hard event for new player hahaYou can easily clear the first 6 floors, probably even more than that. Just do the missions and you should end up with 5-10k Medals.

[Chrestomancy]

You can easily clear the first 6 floors, probably even more than that. Just do the missions and you should end up with 5-10k Medals.

Tower isn't a long event, it just feels like it if you're a veteran with 30+ hime per element and want to build a spreadsheet to get the best alignment you possibly can between the challenge, the missions and your available team. In actual fact, that part is the fun bit for me. But if you're certain you're not going to get very far, then:
* Check the missions for tower levels 7 and 8. Build your two best teams with no hime in common, one for level 7 and one for 8. Use them on floors 1 and 2.
* Go through the next 2 days using whatever himes will get you the best clearance of the missions. Seriously, the first 6 levels of the tower should be possible for most any player if they have enough himes to attempt them.
* On day 4, use those two teams you created and see how you do.

If you barely scrape through, then plan to need 2 keys per floor for 9 and 10. This means first attempt off-element so you can meet mission requirements by finishing the boss with a weak but on-element team, and you're not making more on-element hime unavailable than you absolutely have to. If it goes wrong, don't worry - it's a learning experience. Then, for floor 11, you've got both your best teams available. Either go off-element then best team for 11, then off-element then best team for 12, or if you're certain this isn't going to work, you've still got 4 runs on 11.

You will want every tower medal you can get for weapon bricks. If you can't get to 10k in one tower, you will definitely get there in 2 (first tower, I had 9,990 - I was literally the highest-scoring player who couldn't buy a brick). And it's just 16 fights over 8 days, many of which are 1 or 2 stages only. So very low commitment for a decent reward, exactly what new players should be doing.

[Chrestomancy]

I will sure, but it will be even less accurate than before. Not to mention that it'll come late due to not working on it before the Tower goes live.

Yeah, likewise. Hoping Cobble pops up and performs his usual magic of extracting what we need to know, otherwise it'll take me an hour or more clicking through the in-game interface to copy down all the bosses and missions before I can even plan. I suppose I should be copying my hime into a spreadsheet now...

[Yukarichan]

Tower isn't a long event, it just feels like it if you're a veteran with 30+ hime per element and want to build a spreadsheet to get the best alignment you possibly can between the challenge, the missions and your available team. In actual fact, that part is the fun bit for me. But if you're certain you're not going to get very far, then:
* Check the missions for tower levels 7 and 8. Build your two best teams with no hime in common, one for level 7 and one for 8. Use them on floors 1 and 2.
* Go through the next 2 days using whatever himes will get you the best clearance of the missions. Seriously, the first 6 levels of the tower should be possible for most any player if they have enough himes to attempt them.
* On day 4, use those two teams you created and see how you do.

If you barely scrape through, then plan to need 2 keys per floor for 9 and 10. This means first attempt off-element so you can meet mission requirements by finishing the boss with a weak but on-element team, and you're not making more on-element hime unavailable than you absolutely have to. If it goes wrong, don't worry - it's a learning experience. Then, for floor 11, you've got both your best teams available. Either go off-element then best team for 11, then off-element then best team for 12, or if you're certain this isn't going to work, you've still got 4 runs on 11.

You will want every tower medal you can get for weapon bricks. If you can't get to 10k in one tower, you will definitely get there in 2 (first tower, I had 9,990 - I was literally the highest-scoring player who couldn't buy a brick). And it's just 16 fights over 8 days, many of which are 1 or 2 stages only. So very low commitment for a decent reward, exactly what new players should be doing.

The biggest problem is my useable element only dark right now and maybe i can only make 2 dark team (working on 2nd dark team now).

Gonna have big problem with clearing mission with only light hime, only have 2 sr light atm and pathetic light weapon grid. For eidolon...luckily have sphinx...

[Slashley]

The biggest problem is my useable element only dark right now and maybe i can only make 2 dark team (working on 2nd dark team now).

Gonna have big problem with clearing mission with only light hime, only have 2 sr light atm and pathetic light weapon grid. For eidolon...luckily have sphinx...A Soul alone with two 2 Light Rs can handle the first six floors easily. You'll start running into problems after that.

[Yukarichan]

A Soul alone with two 2 Light Rs can handle the first six floors easily. You'll start running into problems after that.

I see, i am trying to build my light grid now (i know its too late but better than nothing). Thx for ur advice Slash n Chrest.

[Crow]

Tower is definitely the most stressful event in the game. Extremely good rewards, but not only no retries but also himes locked out for days...

[AutoCrimson]

but not only no retries
this is only valid if u want full clear

[Crow]

This ties to how strong the reward is. You don't need 'full clear', but it is a huge difference if you get a brick, half a brick or 1.2 brick.

To be strictly technical, there are no 'retries', only 'continues'. It would be fun to tweak your team trying to beat the tower for high score, similarly to how you can do with dummy events. But here, not only you have very limited set of keys but also you can't attempt to get a better score on the same map again.

[Slashley]

Warning, even less reliable than usual. Due to no Cobble's work. I haven't bothered filling sub spots for most things.
https://i.imgur.com/zF85kz7.png
This Tower seems to throw lots of debuffs against you. Light has access to a lot of Cleanse at least, but it's still quite annoying. Well, it will largely depend on how strong those debuffs are, because of course that's not listed in the DMM wiki. I remember Thunder Tower threw a 10 turn 1000 damage DoT on you (against Wind that has basically no Cleanse at all), and then the next Tower at the same floor threw 3 turn DoT at 500 damage. That's QUITE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE THERE, and it'd be nice to know the details of shit like this.

Personally, since I'm missing all the powerhouse Light SSRs, I'll be perfectly happy if I can clear all missions. At least thanks to some recent additions like Metatron I have a chance of beating 15F. Regardless, pretty sure I have absolutely no business in top100 this time around.

[Slashley]

A Soul alone with two 2 Light Rs can handle the first six floors easily. You'll start running into problems after that.After just playing through 6F, I'd like to clarify that this applies to players who have a completed Grid. A new player should probably take 6F very seriously, as they didn't just fall over from my Solomon glancing in their general direction.

[AutoCrimson]

yup, just failed the under 5 turn restriction on aab'ing 6f with Solomon

[Yukarichan]

I read on earlier post that unused keys will give u 500 points/key, is it still viable?

[AutoCrimson]

taco messed prev tower, (prolonged it for one day), so we had 2 extra keys.

[Slashley]

10670 Medals. While I'm pretty sure I'm not getting anywhere near top100, I'd need to drop outside of top350 to not meet my goal, so I should be good.

Just really happy that I managed to clear all missions despite my AWFUL Ascension Light Grid and awful teams. RNG please, throw at least ONE super broken Light SSR my way, please? There are plenty of them...

[Kitty]

kek lost the 15F first run with my wind team... prolly shoulda picked thunder/water since i have kiri/rudra but eh i'm a dumbass but ayyy fuck me i underestimated myself so hard this tower. my light team is a fuckton stronger than i thought.

[Yukarichan]

6770 + 2500 from rewards = 9250...not enough for brick haha

[Chrestomancy]

6770 + 2500 from rewards = 9250...not enough for brick haha

My first tower I got 9990. I was literally the highest-placed player who didn't get a brick. Don't worry, if you play next time (and keep the pressure on) you'll get more than 11,000 and make up for the first run.

I played overly safe this time, used my A-team on floor 14, then crashed without points on 15. My Thunder team got the boss below half health, but sending a mostly-R Light team in after resulted in a boss with 20% health and basically no benefit. My A-team for Light (with added debuff-resistance) could probably have beaten it. Still, near 10K in all other rewards, then another 3.5K in ranking rewards means I'm up a brick and a bit more left over for next time. So I'm happy.

[Dejnov]

This is partially why those bricks are so damn precious... they don't come easy!! Don't buy anything else in that store and only brick the most/best Hime game breaking weapon you can find... Vishnu glaives, Mammon guns, Tish Lances, Raiko Hammers, etc.

Wasting it on an FLBing an advent weapon you forgot to limit break at an older event or just a decent assault/defender weapon will have you crying in the long term.

Dejnov.

[Slashley]

So, Dark Tower is over. For future reference, here are the results:
01. Sirocco 10800 [59k,330H,120E] (Drama Club)
01. Rori Juice 10800 [71k,289H,120E] (Isekai)
01. nonsensei 10800 [62k,265H,120E] (Drama Club)
01. blubber 10800 [74k,321H,120E] (Susurrus)
01. Sora 10800 [79k,317H,110E] (Susurrus)
01. igt 10800 [76k,314H,120E] (Perfection)
01. BadRiddance 10800 [70k,315H,120E] (Susurrus)
08. Geidt 10790 [63k,302H,120E] (Drama Club)
09. Xellosp 10780 [62k,276H,GE] (=Akatsuki=)
09. geoffchu 10780 [63k,224H,110E] (Isekai)
11. raistlan 10770 [66k,297H,115E] (Drama Club?)
11. alex 10770 [74k,271H,120E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. SiegeDragon 10760 [73k,273H,GE] (Isekai)
13. Bam 10760 [76k,341H,120E] (Drama Club)
13. Kayn 10760 [60k,252H,115E] (DarkHell)
13. AsD2038 10760 [76k,300H,100E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. dreamlitz 10760 [62k,272H,120E] (Nonsense)
18. Madnug 10750 [75k,340H,120E] (=Akatsuki=)
18. mlw61520 10750 [65k,275H,GE] (Axis Mundi)
18. PPT 10750 [72k,283H,120E] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them. Also, as a new addition, GE means Guardian Eidolon. I can't put a number on it since the number will depend on Grid.

Lots of perfect runs this time around. That's why next Tower will feature five more floors, probably stopping all perfect runs for a while again. We will see. I'm surprised that geoffchu dropped 10 points on floors 9/10 (I think), but only 10 points in 11-15. I've never seen him use non-Light, so him doing F15 off-element in 9 turns or less is quite impressive. Or maybe he just ran two Light teams, that's plenty plausible these days I guess. And finally, damn dreamlitz. You've been playing for ~9 months and have THAT Hime count?! Congrats on top20, though. Good work.

Personally, rank94 is more than enough. My Light Grid is utterly awful and my Light Hime are AWFUL, so perfectly happy with this result. Let's see if I can actually accomplish anything in the next Tower, considering how RNG has blessed me with almost all Water SSR Himes and Leviathan.

[Slashley]

I didn't make a tl for fire tower, so just give me another 10 more months before I'll get to translating that because fire tower reprint.You liar, Cobble. You liar! Come back and fulfill your promise like a man!


Ooookay then. There is a looooot for me to say for the second coming of Fire Tower, in about two weeks. First off, take this. I tried to compile a list of Hime who can do useful things for this Tower. I make no guarantee I didn't fuck something up, but hopefully somebody will find it useful:
https://i.imgur.com/3ew5qRL.png
Many of these can be found from Aken's spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ahH9wWmPICwZvJemw6JcxxMac05XLGkbm1nwr7io5dQ/edit#gid=0) in a better format, but since not everything is there (such as burst+), I figured I should just make a small list.

And then, up next, the plan itself.
https://i.imgur.com/m8Tjrn0.png
Jesus fucking christ what a hot fucking mess. I hope you can understand something about floors 16-20. Those floors don't mess around though. Like F16. Don't have Februus? Get fucked. Debuff immune boss with one blob, can rage which lasts for ~8m HP, and rage Overdrive is 9k AoE. For reference, F15 last boss is 8m HP total and debuff immune. So if you can't oneshot F15 boss (from full health!!!), you will probably spend all six keys trying to kill this fucking beast. What a complete monster, christ. And then there's still four floors to go!!

I think the other thing I want to say is that wiki claimed that F18 Doom is 1t, which isn't true. It does NOT instantly kill you like 1t Doom would (the first tick happens before you get your turn, okay?). It's 2t Doom, which means that you CAN Cleanse it immediately and not die. You however DO NOT have two "turns" on your side to Cleanse it, since the first turn ticked when the Doom was applied.

I have tried to gather damage numbers from DMM videos ~11 months ago, but it is difficult. It's mostly just ENORMOUS space whales who have videos up (that I could find), soooo... yeah. That made things difficult, but I've tried my best to get information on Rage gauges as well as damage numbers. Mistakes may have been made, you have been warned.

The reason why I've put extra effort in this time is because I am going to tryhard this shit. And by that I mean I'll try to hit top10. Is that going to happen? Proooobably not. While RNG has blessed me with Leviathan (that I bricked to MLB) and almost all Water SSRs (I am only missing Aphrodite and Ea, plus the Limiteds Shear, Osiris and Diana)... my Grid is purely F2P. And not even +99'd yet. I am aiming to miss out on 10 points from the first 15 floors (aiming for 9 turns with Dark in F15), but this kind of rushed gameplay is so far from my style I will probably fuck up somewhere. Particularly my HP is low, which means that any fuck-up might even cause me to lose the entire floor.

My theory for those floors is:
1. Shingen EI +20
2. Earring Set bonus +30 (Shingen uses turn1 abi1 for +35)
3. 3 turns of attacking for +30
As long as I bring one Hime that has +10 burst on her, that should allow me to Full burst reliably on the fourth turn. Shingen herself can be a problem... and another problem is that I'm not sure if I have enough time to grab all the Earring slots that I'll need. All SSRs are already done, but I need to slot lots of SRs too. And even if I do, my Earrings themselves are trash. Like level 1 trash.

So, um, yeah. All in all, I'll try. But I might flop horrendously. I doubt I am clearing F20 with Dark, and especially not with that Water team. We will see.

[Chrestomancy]

F16 Debuff immune 15M HP with 9K AOE?

Right then. I guess that's more keys for floors 1-15 for me, then. I expect there will be a ton of players who exactly perfected floors 1-15 and nothing more. My usual tactics like Poseidon won't work; my water rely on debuffs.

I will see what can be done to maximise damage from a zero-debuff team full burst. I'm assuming all that incoming damage will get me to full burst before it kills me, with a little help from my team. So, 1 team to kill the first room, maybe get a million on the boss before dying. To beat that in 3 keys will require around 6M burst damage on a non-debuffed enemy.

Good luck Slashey, and thanks for the heads-up.

[Slashley]

Well, things have gone as planned on the first 15 floors. I doubt that they can help anyone, but videos:
F1-10:
https://youtu.be/Al4avto6UXMF11-14:
https://youtu.be/lKTEJqpsyswF15:
https://youtu.be/D94qUALNvm4

[Tanukimo]

Took the team I was going to use on floor 15 to floor 20 because I forgot to move down and still somehow managed to beat it.


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv60b9VeqAKRpmAYL9Exk15-qVmiV4ZrZ

[dreamlitz]

Took the team I was going to use on floor 15 to floor 20 because I forgot to move down and still somehow managed to beat it.


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv60b9VeqAKRpmAYL9Exk15-qVmiV4ZrZ

Lol, so you ended up turtling 15F and cleared 20F normally? :rofl:

Congrats on full mission clear btw, you'll probably rank really well.

[Tanukimo]

Lol, so you ended up turtling 15F and cleared 20F normally? :rofl:

Congrats on full mission clear btw, you'll probably rank really well.

Yeah, not what I intended but didn't have many himes left for floor 15 at the end and figured I'd play it safe. And thanks!

[Slashley]

Welp. I failed miserably. Lost 300 points on F18 after all Def Downs missed (failed 5 Hime alive). That alone probably dropped out of top20. Then lost 500 points from failing off-element clear (having my Shingen sniped on the last floor of Tower is kinda a tradition by now, but at least this time it was my fault for playing like shit). Will probably be outside top50... for somebody with almost all Water SSRs and 160% Levi, that's just outright pathetic.

Sigh.

Oh well. Videos:
F16:
https://youtu.be/zdgSIq1ImOoF17:
https://youtu.be/IzIRJ-WNjfIF18:
https://youtu.be/ajL_OZbx-mgF19:
https://youtu.be/RxWUoRk8T3YF20 off-element:
https://youtu.be/9cCtZnmCqw0F20 on-element:
https://youtu.be/gzBapfWbS80

Anyway, until yesterday, I didn't understand what the whole turtling thing was about. Dreamlitz has mentioned it before but never properly explained it I believe. I didn't connect the dots from seeing somebody post a solo video of Fire Rag kill. Why didn't anyone tell me that SR Dragoon buffs last 3 turns instead of 2 like SSR Dragoons...?
I should probably make a thread about turtling tomorrow. After work and hours of Tower, I'm too tired for that.
Congrats on full mission clear btw, you'll probably rank really well.In previous Towers full missions when losing 10 points per floor from 10-15 basically meant being outside top20. I wonder how much different things will be this time.

[Wolfheinirich]

I flopped hard on 13, wasted 2 keys and now I have no hope to past 16 because I am all but out of defensive hime.

[Geo]

Only got 3 SSRs and my main Eidolon is Tiamat. So I'm glad I managed to get to floor 16 with mostly SR-tier.

Thank you Slashley, your planning sheet helped a lot.

Congratz Dreamlitz for reaching 1st place (dunno if will drop after tonight). Did that Defender Seraph Hammer helped you? =P

[Jessa]

Tower Medals: 7510 (inc. ranking reward)

Meeeh

goddam this event, one needs shittons of kamis to grind it properly

[Chrestomancy]

Tower Medals: 7510 (inc. ranking reward)

Meeeh

goddam this event, one needs shittons of kamis to grind it properly

That's true, Jessa, but I bet you beat 10k next tower, and if you hold on to those medals you'll get the extra 2500 you missed on top by the tower after. Numbers of KH is just a factor of how long you've been playing (unless you whale). You will make up that power gap pretty quickly at the start.



Welp. I failed miserably. Lost 300 points on F18 after all Def Downs missed (failed 5 Hime alive). That alone probably dropped out of top20. Then lost 500 points from failing off-element clear (having my Shingen sniped on the last floor of Tower is kinda a tradition by now, but at least this time it was my fault for playing like shit).


Unlucky, Slashey. Happens to everybody (or rather it happens all the time to me, and now I know it happens to you too). Thanks for the sheet, it helped no end, hot mess or not. I dropped 1 key on floor 15, then basically took 2 keys per floor, finishing on 18 with 1-17 complete, all missions. That's good for me, rank 165 at the end. So much better than my performance on Skill Check kun.

[Jessa]

Really hope so, thank you.

[Slashley]

So, second Fire Tower is over. For future reference, here are the results:
01. nonsensei 15830 [71k,100e,285H] (Drama Club)
02. SiegeDragon 15820 [69k,155e,296H] (Isekai)
02. Kayn 15820 [65k,265e,170H] ()
04. xelloss1012 15810 [67k,110e,337H] (DarkHell)
05. Geidt 15760 [67k,120e,320H] (Drama Club)
06. SwampyKong 15730 [58k,160e,316H] (Terminus)
07. steklovskii 15580 [52k, 45e,242H] (Nakama)
08. Ken 15540 [64k,150e,356H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
08. Minerva 15540 [62k,100e,295H] (Drama Club)
10. Osmium 15530 [65k, 65C,248H] (Cybeast v1)
11. Little Hsien 15510 [58k, 50C,226H] (WindSoughs)
11. dreamlitz 15510 [68k, 60C,293H] (Nonsense)
13. Xellosp 15410 [63k, 70C,297H] (=Akatsuki=)
14. AsD2038 15240 [73k,115e,320H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
15. Caldernaji 15180 [48k,160e,223H] (DarkHell)
16. Simple 15140 [54k,120e,312H] (Nakama)
17. bedevil 15120 [63k, 45e,257H] (Susurrus)
18. Char Aznable 15090 [58k,160e,255H] (Lalka-Doll)
19. Mira 14960 [70k,110e,320H] (Drama Club)
19. mlw61520 14960 [64k,100e,295H] (Axis Mundi)
21. Slashley 14950 [61k,160e,286H] (Kingdom AR)
21. (and others, I am sure)Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

Ugh, what a disaster from me. If I wouldn't have fucked up twice, would've been top5. But that's theory, and I'm sure something like that happened to others as well. Oh well.

[dreamlitz]

Anyway, until yesterday, I didn't understand what the whole turtling thing was about. Dreamlitz has mentioned it before but never properly explained it I believe.

Did I not explain it here before? I think I've posted my light tower 15F run somewhere here before and the video description lays out the strategy. Apparently there's also a guy on DMM that has done this like a year ago but his videos aren't around anymore. A lot of ppl think turtling is a colossal waste of time though (and it is if you can clear things normally.) I typically just told ppl that I planned to turtle fire tower and only elaborate if they wanted me to. I was actually surprised to see how many ppl ended up turtling at least one floor xD

Anyway, here's the short version of how I turtle:

Use resistance eido as main and friend support
Bring 2 MLB dragoons and 1 LB0 kaiser for a 3/3/2T rotation to cover 8T CD
Bring enough heal/dmg cuts to out-heal all incoming dmg

Pros of turtling:

Lets you get through tower floors that would be impossible to get through otherwise with a crap grid and like no accessory slots unlocked
Allows you to complete floors on-element for mission clear
High resistance means that most enemies debuff will miss, making certain enemies much less scary
Very safe - as long as you do your research and prepare properly

Cons of turtling:

Takes a long time as you deal like no dmg (each floor from 16F-20F took me roughly 1.5 hours each - ppl with better grids than I have turtled in half that time or less though)
You'll get zero from turn clear bonus - you're basically sacrificing up to 50 medals from fast clear for on-element mission clear
You have to invest in eidos and weapons that you'll probably never use again (except for meme)
Ppl will verbally abuse you for turtling - but think of the sweet sweet bricks you're getting and just wear the turtle badge with pride =)


Here is the long version, and I mean VERY long for those that want to major in turtling:


Use a resistance eido as both main and friend support

All elements except dark have R versions with 20% resistance at MLB (all drop from main quests and gemcha - if you turn off autosell for a week or so, you'll usually collect most or all the copies that you need from gemcha alone)
Fire/wind/thunder have a SR version with 25% at MLB, making them the easiest to turtle against (jewel/star coin gacha only, but if you play long enough, you usually pull multiple copies of them - can use eido orbs to SR brick them before tower if need be)
Dark only has Barong (epic quest) with only 10% resistance, making it the hardest element to turtle against

Bring with you two MLB dragoons and one LB0 kaiser in sub

MLB dragoons' active gives 20%/15% resistance/elemental on a 3/8T CD, you get them from jewel/star coin gacha, but again, if you play long enough, you usually can get more than two copies, then SR brick as necessary
Kaiser's active gives 30%/30% resistance/elemental on a 2/8T CD (up to 50%/50% if you're lucky enough to pull dupes from gacha) - everyone can buy one copy of kaiser from eidolon orb shop (also, kaiser is a good investment for tower even if you don't turtle imo)

As an example, for this past fire tower, double Surtr already gives you 50% permanent fire resistance, after 8T, you can activate your dragoons/kaiser on a 3/3/2T rotation so that they perfectly cover the 8T cooldown, boosting you up to 70%-80% resistance
Bring enough heal and/or additional dmg cut/resistance so that you can out-heal all incoming dmg. There're several levers you can play with here:

Stuff your grid with ascension weapons (SR or even R weapons are fine - bricking them is optional since it just gives you more stats, I usually MLB all the R ascension weapons I use though, since they're really cheap to brick - 300 eido orbs to MLB)
Bring more healers (don't underestimate regen - as long as they aren't overwriting each other, lowly regen with ascension is often enough for turtle builds)
Bring more dmg cut/resistance abilities (you can easily hit 100% resistance with the right himes, e.g. Poseidon AW alone would have gotten you to 4/8T dmg immunity when combined with Surtr/dragoon/kaiser)
Bring barrier (either from hime abilities or from eidos - MLB Phul being the best, Tiamat/Python also works) - barrier actually works really well with high dmg cuts since it's applied after the cuts (e.g. 16F ROD normally hits for 9k-ish, it'll be reduced to 2.7k with 70% resistance, Phul's 2k barrier will cut that down to just 700-ish)
Technically bringing more def up can help, but not as much as cuts, since it's a different multiplier - e.g. Andro with her staff gives 3/6T 40% def up, so if you divide all incoming dmg after cuts by 1.4, you bring your effective defenses from 70%-80% to about 78%-85%-ish (stacking defenses also goes into diminishing return quickly unlike stacking cuts)

Make sure you bring enough HP to meet the following three things:

1. Can get you through the first 8T when you're at 50% as opposed to 70%-80% resistance
2. Enough to survive heal/barrier cooldown cycles
3. If you're using a high ascension build with SSR healers, try to aim for 10k-ish HP at least (reason has to do with the 'small' ascension number, which can make you heal less than expected in narrow situations like a low HP turtle build - rarely an issue but just wanted to put it here for completeness)

Preferred souls are Andromeda or Joan (theoretically any souls can work as long as your himes cover all heal and defensive needs)

Andro is the usual choice - heal, def up, revive if you messed up plus 15% ascension from her energy release (and burst, too if you use her soul weapon, but you're unlikely to be bursting often with an Andro build)
If you don't have enough healers but have a high ascension grid, you might want to consider using Andro's lance instead of staff as her regen adds up to 700 base heal over 5T, which is almost as good as SR Nike. The staff will let you clear faster though (30% elemental atk) and the def up is actually very nice if you aren't going for complete dmg immunity builds
Joan is a very good choice when you get close to full dmg immunity on many turns (e.g. if using Joan makes you go from 6/8T dmg immunity to 7/8T immunity, she basically halves the number of healers you need.) She's also very good against enemies with higher CT - just time her dmg cut with OD - you don't need complete dmg immunity every turn, just the turns that hurt the most. Against the right enemy, Joan can potentially cut dmg more than Andro can heal
Preferred Joan weapon for turtling is actually her sword not her lance (turtling breaks all the conventional rules) - even without the lance, her dmg cut is 40%, which is enough to get you to complete dmg immunity even with 20% resist eidos. Her sword also reduces her regen CD to 6T, and there're quite a few himes with 6T CD regen, so you can sync them up easily. Also, elemental atk makes you clear faster
Common EX are maiden's prayer, debuffs or Morgan line single target heal/buffs depending on needs; some ppl like Joan's stacking def MEX, but you can easily turtle past the point where the buff expires and have to be re-stacked, so make sure your build can deal with that

Beware that turtle builds are not invincible and not researching what your enemies do can be your downfall. The following are some of the more common pitfalls of turtling that you need to be prepared for:

Mobs that heal - you can't fight turtle with turtle. If you can't out-damage the enemies' heal, you'll be stuck in an infinite loop where neither side wins (which means you lose, 'cos stalemate = mission failed.) There ARE ways to deal with this though:

Bring more assault in your grid and debuffs/buffs so you CAN out-damage the heal
Bring BP/orb eat to reduce heal frequency so you can out-damage it
Shut down heal completely with Girimehkala's curse active if you have her (LB0 is fine)
Light tower exclusive: bring Nebarius and cast zombie, so the mob heals itself to death - I actually did this for light tower 15F btw, very fun to watch xD

DoT - just bring cleanse. Note that high resistance of turtle builds mean that most DoTs will miss, so usually one source of cleanse is enough
Doom - bring cleanse and save it for the doom triggers
Dispel - you may need a 3rd dragoon if the enemy can dispel
Elemental resistance down - can result in you taking dmg even with 100% dmg cut builds
Non-matching elemental enemy, e.g. dark enemy on 14F of fire tower, so your fire resistance is useless - I almost wiped 'cos of this oversight
Trigger control - due to low dmg, you can't always reliably push hp/rage bar to a trigger point on the turn you have extra defenses up, so it is best to have multi-turn defenses up or be able to deal with triggers with just the dragoon/kaiser buffs
Other unusual trigger - e.g. I've been told that water tower has a boss that nukes you if you have buffs, so turtling might result in more, not less dmg taken unless you get up to 100% cut or something
Game lag - at high turn counts, the game starts lagging noticeably, so reliance on debuffs can be dangerous - they tend to expire in a few turns when I go up to 100T+ even if I reload every attack animation

Additional tips for turtling:

When deciding on what comp to field, you just need to know the maximum average per turn or per cycle of turns dmg the enemy can deal (usually during rage phase) - if your comp can survive that, it can survive all other points of the battle so you typically just need to math out one scenario per floor
Once you've determined how much ascension you need (if any) for your comp (remember to include some margin of error just in case), you can switch out all other ascension weapons for assault for faster clear (I used a high ascension grid for most floors though, 'cos I'm always scared that I'll make a stupid mistake somewhere and/or I want to eat some triggers on purpose just to test dmg levels for others)
Same deal with accessories, once you have enough defenses, can focus on offense
Non-essential himes can wipe during high dmg phase and revived when enemy dmg output goes back to more manageable levels, so focus single-target heals on soul/healers/cutters, buffers/debuffers/dmg dealers are less important in turtle runs (risky to let himes die, but if you're out of good turtling himes, you might need to take some risks)

Note that 16F does NOT have a 5 alive mission, so everyone except the soul can wipe if need be - that was my original plan for 16F as I could only guarantee Andro and Saraswati to survive if my dmg estimates were off

Your sub eidos do not have to match the team's element as you're not using 100%+ eidos, so just bring whatever eidos gives you the most helpful active. My personal favorites are Phul (barrier), Behemoth (cleanse), Nidhoggr/Yamata no Orochi/Vine (def down for faster clear), Hoder/Cerberus (guaranteed def down), any element MLB kaiser (pure stats stick, active is useless)
There's no time limit for tower (well, as long as you finish before server reset) so take breaks if you want. I turtled most floors in 2-3 sittings - turtling is slow but should be low stress, unlike a normal tower run where every debuff miss or consecutive enemy DATA or under/over-damaging messing with your rage control plans can give you a scare





Congratz Dreamlitz for reaching 1st place (dunno if will drop after tonight). Did that Defender Seraph Hammer helped you? =P

Thank you! Dropped to 11th as you can see, which is higher than I expected tbh, thought I'll just end around top 50 since my approach guarantees that I'll be 400-ish below perfect (I turtled from 13F-20F as my water grid is very bad - I only invest in light.) It took me over 7 hours to turtle 16F-20F, and I knew I wouldn't have enough time irl on the last day to do all that, so I did two floors every day, which artificially boosted my rankings for a while as most ppl waited for their best himes to come off cooldown.

And the Seraph hammer turned out to be overkill, but it allowed me to comfortably eat triggers just to see how much dmg they did xD This will sound crazy, but it was actually kinda relaxing turtling some of these floors knowing that I have so much hp that I'll be fine even if I mess up (and I messed up quite a few times, like forgetting to activate a dragoon or dmg cut here and there.) So, overall, no regrets FLB-ing that hammer. I'll probably never use it again though =P

[Slashley]

Game lag - at high turn counts, the game starts lagging noticeably, so reliance on debuffs can be dangerous - they tend to expire in a few turns when I go up to 100T+ even if I reload every attack animationThat's a fucking feature?

I've been puzzled why the fuck do my Water Rag soloes start to lag so horrendously after ~30 minutes. Not that I solo them because I want to, but often enough, nobody bothers to join until it is near dead. I thought it was a shitty raid server thing, but I guess it's some kind of memory leak on the server side. Jesus christ the fucking coding in this game.

[Jessa]

Uhm, so does this shit lags for everyone?

Also, thanks for a very nice guide dream, prolly will use it in future.

[Geo]

This turtle guide was good, and I understand you aimed it at newer players, but there are some Event Eidolons that could replace the SR Dragoons:

Resheph (Wind Resist)
Fleurety (Thunder Resist)
Rahab (Thunder Resist - actually I used to think Rahab was COMPLETELY useless, because who would fight Thunder with Water? Turns out she substitutes the Wind SR Dragoon in a turtle build)

I mean, using SSRs instead of SRs would mean less of a stats compromise.

EDIT: Realized the SR Dragoons are used for the 3t/8t CD... And those Event Eidolons only provide 10% resistance at FLB while Dragoons give 20% at FLB and Kaisers 30% at 0LB. So yeah, bigger defenses in this game surely mean less offense - those Events Eidolons would be in a middle.

[Slashley]

So, I'm more than slightly short on time. Like, look at my plan for F10:https://i.imgur.com/9GORmNz.png"Let's just bring 4x +100 burst Hime, full bursting sounds like a good plan"
I have obviously not properly checked for any mistakes here.

A proper post coming if I get a break and thus have the fucking time.

[Slashley]

Double postan' since these forums are dead.

I had some free time today (wow!) and made this in preparation of the proper Tower list. Hopefully this list will help others make teams:https://i.imgur.com/YYlB9ZP.pngAnd if anyone is in any kind of contact with Aken, please let him know that his excellent spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ahH9wWmPICwZvJemw6JcxxMac05XLGkbm1nwr7io5dQ/edit#gid=1773800529) is missing R Perun's damage cut and SR Astraea's buffed water res. Thanks!
And also tell him to combine dmg cut and elemental resistance sheets since they're the same thing, and to make sheets for guaranteed burst gains, cleanses, dispels, guards and BP users so that I can stop making these things myself, cheers!

Then the actual table itself:https://i.imgur.com/572E28K.pngExtremely rushed, I've put in nowhere near the amount of effort as I did for Fire Tower. Mistakes are VERY likely.
And on my personal schedule, I am hopeful that on Friday, I'll be able to complete this thing.

[Jessa]

Ty slashley! (you don't have to worry about double posting now)

[powersurge]

yeah thanks slashley
had to improvise a bit on certain floors since i dont have perkele, nuwa, SSR baal, jupiter, raiko and bramha but athena also works good on large singel target damage

though 1 tiny critism i have with your table is that you include limited edition himes not everyone will have all the limited versions like aphro and sadist nyan, maybe for future reference but i do see there is a work around with the 2 himes in the other column just incase if im correct.

[Slashley]

--
though 1 tiny critism i have with your table is that you include limited edition himes not everyone will have all the limited versions like aphro and sadist nyan, --Oops, oh, right. Since you're new, you wouldn't know. These tables are NOT meant to be general plans, they're simply plans that I personally intend to take with the Hime that I personally have.

YOU SHOULD NOT DO WHAT I DO. Use what you have and adapt!

I posted my plans for some Tower and surprisingly many people liked it. I still don't understand why. But I've been posting them since, to hopefully help others. The debuff list is a new thing I've only done twice and should hopefully be more helpful, honestly.

[Slashley]

Double postan' because CLEARLY this is important.
Actually I'm not even sure why I keep posting these since I don't think they can help anyone anymore, hue.
F1-F10:
https://youtu.be/Sizbb3ANZYcF11-F13:
https://youtu.be/mnqahevqas4F14-F15:
https://youtu.be/NtHeStCcqO0F16:
https://youtu.be/2_Cp_W3WPxQ

[Delete]

For once, I was going quite well doing a Tower...and then I took the Light team to floor 16 instead of repeat 15. :cry:

[Slashley]

For once, I was going quite well doing a Tower...and then I took the Light team to floor 16 instead of repeat 15. :cry:Let me guess, with Niddhoggr support to completely ruin all your chances?

[Slashley]

Double postan' yet again.
https://i.imgur.com/hYov1HA.png
Not proud of it as I didn't have the time on Friday, nor am I confident in my ability to clear this shit. But I guess I will find out in a moment.

[Slashley]

Triple postan' because this is also CLEARLY important!

My lack of planning really shows, but it couldn't be helped since I didn't have the time to prepare properly. Nonetheless, videos:
17F:
https://youtu.be/C0bx1T3aLLA18F:
https://youtu.be/m5j54cVAu_M19F:
https://youtu.be/o72UZQf6JhE20F off-element:
https://youtu.be/o20nbgrw9mQThe plan was to NOT eat fucking Rage Overdrive (because it wipes you the very next turn without Cleanse), but instead eat the normal Overdrive for -Atk and -5% DoT. Turns out, that fucking -Atk debuff is -50%. Which made my burst hit like a wet noodle...
20F on-element:
https://youtu.be/VKDfg0TTXpI

https://youtu.be/FaHktvkKyC0
15F off-element:
https://youtu.be/C67Y1AuytYk

Really happy with how things went. 15800 medals. Pretty sure I could've done at least 20 points better, but oh well. Considering I didn't even tryhard with Accessories in 11-15, that's probably even really lucky.

[Slashley]

Quadruple posting.

So, the second Water Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. Geidt 15870 [71k,100e,334H] (Drama Club)
01. AsD2038 15870 [78k,120e,336H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. mlw61520 15850 [69k, GE,313H] (Axis Mundi)
03. AXSXCE 15850 [71k,120e,334H] (RedPhantom)
05. Rori Juice 15830 [63k,100e,338H] (Isekai)
05. nonsensei 15830 [62k, GE,298H] (Drama Club)
07. Valen 15810 [67k,100e,313H] (Weeb Wanks)
07. cashballer 15810 [85k,120e,269H] (Weeb Wanks)
09. VERYVOODOO 15800 [63k, GE,293H] (Ixion)
09. Slashley 15800 [67k,100e,302H] (Kingdom AR)
09. Bedevil 15800 [72k, GE,281H] (Susurrus)
12. xm67 15780 [67k,110e,336H] (RedPhantom)
13. Xellosp 15770 [59k, GE,309H] (=Akatsuki=)
13. Char Aznable 15770 [56k,100e,272H] (Lalka-Doll)
15. dreamlitz 15750 [53k,140e,311H] (Nonsense)
16. J0hnT1t0r 15580 [73k,120e,321H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
17. Scorpiossss 15470 [73k,120e,301H] (Isekai)
18. SwampyKong 15460 [72k, 60e,332H] (Terminus)
19. HdMercenario 15380 [67k,100e,282H] (Drama Club)
20. Ken 15360 [76k,160e,370H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.]Notice, Atk numbers are not reliable at all, as the number listed here is for whatever team they had when I inspected them.

[Slashley]

Five posts in a row. Nice.

First of all, a thing that should help everyone who is going to plan for this:https://i.imgur.com/eVaI3Zo.pngFire is veeeery heavy in B frame debuffs, and veeeery low in everything else. And the good stuff is basically all locked behind specific SSR Hime.

Now then, for my grand plan. As always, don't do what I do. Make your own plans.https://i.imgur.com/kkvBKmk.pngI simply don't see myself having the Grid or the Hime to complete this Tower. I don't know if I'll even succeed in turtling 16F, if I'm right, I'll take 750 damage/t and heal for 660 HP/t. And this is if I am able to keep Culyune at 100% uptime, which means bursting every 5 turns. Well, Fire Mammon is there to help, but that still sounds like a stretch.

I'd also "love" to turtle 17F/18F/19F, since I don't think I am completing those without. But 17F first and second waves seem like they'd be a stretch to turtle, 18F and 19F both have DoTs.

I might revisit my plans for 17-19F once I'm done with 16F, but for now... nope. I don't see it happening.

[powersurge]

question, if i give up during a floor if the last wave boss has a tiny sliver of hp remaining so that i can kill it with a on element team can i actually do that or will it reset completly? i am at floor 17 at kyuki and she has a tiny sliver of hp remaining lol i kinda want to kill her with my last few fire himes that i have left.

[Dejnov]

She does not reset her life. You can always give up the battle and come in with the correct element to clear for full floor reward.


Dejnov.

[powersurge]

She does not reset her life. You can always give up the battle and come in with the correct element to clear for full floor reward.


Dejnov.

thanks mate will do just that might not get the turn clear bonus but atleast 950 more medals and floor 17 cleared feels like a good accomplisment for me

[Chrestomancy]

Thanks Slashey for taking the time to double/treble/quadruple/quintuple post. The Wind Tower view you provided was extremely useful to me. Not that I did a good job this time, but it may have been worse without.

The journey up to 15th floor was pretty uneventful. I should have put some more effort into assigning my himes, though - I had I think Culyune with Ithaqua and someone else who basically all bounced off giving the exact same buff to the team. 15th floor I took off-element first - reason being, if I failed within a small margin of the top, I could then claim complete with an all-R fire team using Solomon. Unfortunately, without thinking, I selected my Thunder team (my usual strongest element) and then suddenly realised that's the absolute worst choice for wind. And then, cleared it flawlessly in about 12 turns. The gap between my team's power levels may have grown some in the last few months.

Which should make clear exactly how bad my Fire team is, that it took another 3 runs to get a fire run completed. First team got halfway through 3rd stage, 2nd run I thought I could just walk it, and it turned out I couldn't (probably could have if I'd played it smarter - just regular attacks until rage, then use all abilities and full burst before ougi, instead of throw everything at it on start, then realise it was going to take several rounds of attack, only now she's raging). Weirdly I now have a good collection of fire SSR himes (I had none at the start of the year, I'm up to 6 now and my draw-luck-drought is over), but after having no reason to build the team up for years, the lack of slv30 weaponry or a decent main eidolon is telling.

16 and 17 both took two teams. In retrospect, I may have been better off launching each floor from 15 onwards off-element here; I might have climbed higher or at least completed in fewer turns. Still, 17th floor completed puts me in the top 300, for significant improvement in rewards I'd really have needed to be top 150 or even 50, and that was never going to happen for Fire.

Next tower is in August, according to the Event Encyclopedia, which is Thunder. Unless I pick up some significantly better Wind himes by then, it'll be just as bad as the wind tower for me so maybe I'll take my own advice then. At least Thunder will be a viable alt team for that one! I may post my mostly-SR assault strategy for that if Slashey does. Worth it to give him something to laugh about at the very least. :bgrin:

Congrats to everybody who got past floor 15. I remember when that was an impossible mission for me. I'd probably have made a full clear if it had been only 15 floors / 16 keys this time (if I had used my fire "A" team instead of saving good fire himes for floor 16+) dropping only some tens of points for not clearing fast enough, which is a nice indication of progress. Pity there's so little to actually think about now though beyond these events. It's a long, grinding path onwards and I still don't have my S-level soul. Back to the raids, I suppose.

[Jessa]

This tower was a huge mess for me cause of that stupid maint :(

[Slashley]

So, the second Wind Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. Rori Juice 15800 [62k,110e,344H] (Isekai)
01. Xellosp 15800 [63k,120e,311H] (=Akatsuki=)
01. nonsensei 15800 [63k, GE,302H] (Drama Club)
01. Char Aznable 15800 [65k,160e,274H] (Lalka Doll)
05. SwampyKong 15790 [69k,160e,339H] (Terminus)
06. Ken 15780 [68k,105e,370H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. VERYVOODOO 15780 [69k, GE,299H] (Ixion)
06. Geidt 15780 [77k,160e,339H] (Drama Club)
09. SiegeDragon 15770 [71k,100e,323H] (Isekai)
10. Loma 15760 [72k,160e,299H] (Weeb Wanks)
11. Arphael 15750 [65k,120e,282H] (Khaos)
11. Simple 15750 [64k,150e,329H] (Nakama)
11. Arrow 15750 [77k,100e,325H] (Gacha)
14. SamZ 15730 [70k, GE,291H] (=Akatsuki=)
14. Ke3jackson 15730 [60k,140e,294H] (Susurrus)
16. Umarekawatta Senshi 15710 [70k, GE,300H] (Isekai)
17. Erox Ikaruga 15710 [73k, GE,314H] (Perfection)
18. Yotsuba Ophis 15700 [71k,110e,333H] (Khaos)
19. MrGareBear 15680 [61k, GE,277H] (Khaos)
19. dreamlitz 15680 [68k, GE,315H] (Nonsense)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, GE for Guardian.] For reference:
22. Slashley 15590 [58k,100e,309H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

Personally? Just really glad to have cleared all missions. I had to turtle three entire floors for it, but hey, did it. Turns out Culyune is OP as fuck when it comes to turtling. So anyway, at most 21 people got 15.6k points, which I find interesting due to that huge dip between rank 19 and my 22.

[Slashley]

Alright, we should be getting Thunder Tower in a few days. Like, four or something.

First of all, a thing that should help everyone who is going to plan for this:https://i.imgur.com/bq2m9ud.pngWind has fairly good access to most stuff, with the exceptions being Cleanse(/Prevention) and damage cuts which are locked behind specific SSRs.

Notice that this time around, this is mostly just taken from English wiki page (https://kamihime-project.fandom.com/wiki/Abilities#DEF%E2%86%93). If there are mistakes such as missing Hime or wrong values, I blame them. On a side note, Aken's spreadsheet has been private for quite some time now. Not sure why.


Now then, for my grand plan. As always, don't do what I do. Make your own plans.https://i.imgur.com/70ElM53.pngHa ha I have made such effort this time! I can't even be bothered to name what Hime I'll use on most floors now! This thing won't help people without Wind Medea all that much, now will it?

And two notes to self:
1. This run is mostly a Medea test, as I am specifically running Medea on all (non-turtle) floors. Shingen/Yori might be stronger for many floors, but I am doing this to specifically test Medea.
2. No, Ascle-Azazel won't actually be duo-turtling two floors. I need other Hime to complete Missions. But it really doesn't matter who I bring, so there wasn't any point in naming them. I'll have a look at which Hime are available when I get there.
Overall, as long as I complete all missions, I'll be happy. So will probably land around rank 20-30.

[bcp]

Can I get advice on the best ways to spend the tower rewards? Is it best to get as many special soul points as possible since this is the only way to get them?

[atis52]

Can I get advice on the best ways to spend the tower rewards? Is it best to get as many special soul points as possible since this is the only way to get them?

No. Try to get the 10k points (or conserve them till you can get to 10k in future events), to get the weapon limit break stuff* (holy steel argentum). You can get spec soul points in dawnbreak/crucible battles when they return and you can swap raid points for it as far as I remember.

* this is the only normal way to limit break the better SSR hime weapons

[falcontea]

I'm not allowed to post links, but if you use this string of characters at the end of a google spreadsheet url it should take you to a spreadsheet with translations for thunder, wind, and light towers:

1Jaw1mwNfOK6C3N0nnPPT93iUf1JPzHJBodk9vmoMe2s

[Jessa]

Yeah. Fixed it for you.
link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jaw1mwNfOK6C3N0nnPPT93iUf1JPzHJBodk9vmoMe2s/edit#gid=222316200)

[Slashley]

I'm not allowed to post links, but if you use this string of characters at the end of a google spreadsheet url it should take you to a spreadsheet with translations for thunder, wind, and light towersAuthored by?

[Jessa]

Falcontea iirc

[Slashley]

So, the second Thunder Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. AsD2038 15830 [82k,155e,354H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
02. Linkin Park 15820 [67k,160e,367H] (20something)
03. nonsensei 15810 [77k, GE,316H] (Drama Club)
03. Char Aznable 15810 [70k, GE,306H] (Lalka-Doll)
03. dreamlitz 15810 [72k, GE,327H] (Nonsense)
06. Xellosp 15800 [65k,120e,328H] (=Akatsuki=)
06. Whale 15800 [68k,120e,332H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
08. xelloss1012 15790 [71k,150e,373H] (DarkHell)
08. mlw61520 15790 [74k,100e,342H] (Khaos)
10. Shiro 15780 [68k,120e,328H] (Isekai)
10. SiegeDragon 15780 [68k,120e,348H] (Isekai)
10. K 15780 [78k,100e,343H] (Susurrus)
10. Awoolius 15780 [71k,160e,306H] (Weeb Wanks)
14. SwampyKong 15770 [60k,105e,359H] (Terminus)
14. Will 15770 [58k,160e,308H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. MrGareBear 15760 [68k, GE,295H] (Khaos)
16. Pietrangelo 15760 [73k,160e,281H] (DeathLotus)
16. Machis Pengy 15760 [79k,145e,311H] (DarkHell)
19. langust 15750 [66k, GE,297H] (Drama Club)
20. Hexk 15740 [72k,155e,347H] (Amaterasu)
20. wtmsb 15740 [61k,160e,321H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
20. Machis DIIIBBBYYYYY 15740 [68k,105e,331H] (DarkHell)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
33. Slashley 15690 [61k,105e,328H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

In other news, I beat Voodoo since he fucked up a mission. HA HA, TAKE THAT YOU SCRUB.
Slashley 1 - Voodoo 57

[Dejnov]

Slashley where's our plan for tower????


Dejnov.

[Slashley]

I meant to do it a week ago.
And when that didn't happen, I meant to do it yesterday.
And when that didn't happen, I meant to do it today.
And when that didn't happen, I'll have to do it tomorrow since I absolutely won't be able to on Monday (where you also need to do your runs).

BUT MAKE IT YOURSELF TO SAVE ME THE BOTHER, GEEZ.

[Slashley]

Okay, here is the important thing:
https://i.imgur.com/eDqFEnz.png
Again, I am being a lazy little cunt and relied upon the English wiki. If any abilities are missing, it's totally their fault and not mine, okay?

And here is my plan. The usual disclaimers, don't do what I do, do what is best for you, reference only, blaa blaa. Didn't put a lot of effort into this either, so mistakes are probable.
https://i.imgur.com/3WG4iHe.png
The most important thing to note here is floor 8. Everyone has Idun from the code (dunno what the code is today, check official discord for her), but the remaining Dark Defenders are: Cern (SR), Amaterasu (limited SSR) and Gaia (limited SSR). In other words, if you don't have Cern... you've lost 150 Medals. Learn2play scrub.

Also, F18 looks brutal yet again. Both F17 and F18 bosses just slap you with a 10k AoE right off the bat, but at least you can debuff F17 easily.


And finally, I am getting ahead of myself, but... well, this Tower of ours is Tower#11. Tower#15 which ran on DMM ~2 months ago did a lot of changes to the format:- Missions have been unified, every floor is now "Clear once" "Clear with elemental advantage only" "Clear with 5 characters alive" (notice! Even the first six floors now need Soul + 4 Hime minimum!)
- Because F15 and F20 no longer need double clears, the event is one day shorter. You still have no room for failure.
- Bonus for fewer turns removed. Newer players can turtle without worry.
- Rankings removed (also obviously means no more ranking rewards).
- Hime no longer go on a time based cooldown when used, instead, you can deploy the same Hime three times per Tower. This is great since you can just run your A-team against F18, F19 and F20 for example, and it makes the first floors far faster since you can just run random Rs for three floors in a row. Also, I can't wait for them to forget to reset Hime CDs since I have a feeling that's going to bug out.

As a result of these changes, the maximum amount of Medals you can earn has been reduced from 20850 to 11000. And they're still running Towers about every two months as before. In other words,
"Fuck you,
-- With Love,
The Devs"

[Geo]

Thk u Slashley! The spreadsheets always help me.

EDIT: Wow, they really toned down the Tower Events =/

[Dejnov]

Okay, here is the important thing:
https://i.imgur.com/eDqFEnz.png
Again, I am being a lazy little cunt and relied upon the English wiki. If any abilities are missing, it's totally their fault and not mine, okay?

And here is my plan. The usual disclaimers, don't do what I do, do what is best for you, reference only, blaa blaa. Didn't put a lot of effort into this either, so mistakes are probable.
The most important thing to note here is floor 8. Everyone has Idun from the code (dunno what the code is today, check official discord for her), but the remaining Dark Defenders are: Cern (SR), Amaterasu (limited SSR) and Gaia (limited SSR). In other words, if you don't have Cern... you've lost 150 Medals. Learn2play scrub.

Also, F18 looks brutal yet again. Both F17 and F18 bosses just slap you with a 10k AoE right off the bat, but at least you can debuff F17 easily.

As a result of these changes, the maximum amount of Medals you can earn has been reduced from 20850 to 11000. And they're still running Towers about every two months as before. In other words,
"Fuck you,
-- With Love,
The Devs"[/SPOILER]


Thank you Slashley!!


(Now if I can only just get into Tower to make some runs...)



Dejnov.

[Wolfheinirich]

Are people still losing key and not being able to complete the run while locking the hime out? I am trying to decide if I should start my run today.

[Slashley]

Are people still losing key and not being able to complete the run while locking the hime out? I am trying to decide if I should start my run today.I don't know anything about losing keys?

The servers continue to be shit, so unless you happen to be playing during the few moments when shit works, you'll have trouble getting fights to complete. But keys shouldn't be lost, as long as you resume after every Nike? In other words, as long as you don't need timer-based debuffs and have extreme patience, doing them today should work out.

Then again if you have Medea, you can just wait and hope for a better day. Up to you.

[Jessa]

Well, yeah, they reduced amount of medals you can gain from tower, but, on other hand, they also added UE medals with which you too can buy (bricks or tower medals, don't remember which one exactly)

[Slashley]

So, the second Light Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. mlw61520 15840 [77k,120e,357H] (Khaos)
02. Char Aznable 15800 [63k, GE,324H] (NeoZeon)
03. Rori Juice 15780 [75k,110e,380H] (Isekai)
03. nonsensei 15780 [76k, GE,328H] (Drama Club)
03. SwampyKong 15780 [74k,105e,383H] (DarkHell)
06. Shiro 15760 [66k, GE,344H] (Isekai)
06. Ken 15760 [79k,120e,409H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
08. Artur 15750 [78k,120e,386H] (Isekai)
08. K 15750 [78k,115e,365H] (Susurrus)
10. xm67 15740 [72k,120e,375H] (RedPhantom)
11. Valen 15730 [83k, GE,347H] (Weeb Wanks)
11. Umarekawatta Senshi 15730 [74k,105e,335H] (Isekai)
11. dreamlitz 15730 [74k,100e,340H] (Nonsense)
11. yummi 15730 [74k,100e,370H] (Amaterasu)
15. coroner 15720 [71k,120e,319H] (Weeb Wanks)
16. Sladey 15710 [69k,110e,317H] (20something)
16. SuperLeopardCat 15710 [58k,105e,304H] (20something)
16. ChaosPrince42 15710 [68k,120e,356H] (RedPhantom)
16. Nico 15710 [69k, GE,343H] (Drama Club)
16. Scorpiossss 15710 [79k, 60e,351H] (Isekai)
16. Machis Pengy 15710 [69k,115e,328H] (DarkHell)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
41. Slashley 15570 [k,e,H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

mlw set an unprecedented score (we've seen such scores before, but I think there was 50/100 extra Medals available by accident). Out of his 22 runs, ONE went past 4 turns. Jesus, dude. And with Dark too, an element known to be slow. He seems very much like a 110% Dark main though, being so far the only person to bring Dark into the top20 rankings of Skill Checker-kun events (the fifth one to be specific (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/5102-guild-games-megathread-post153846.html#post153846)). Not that I should cut the guy short, he has been in top20 rankings in multiple elements over the years.

Personally, dropping 150 Medals just because I didn't have Cern was sad. That would've gotten me rank15. Also, I fucked up F19 horribly just with my own bad plays, turning an easy 6-7 turn kill into a 10 turn just-barely-not-wiped kill. So rank11 would've been plenty feasible, but it's pointless to mourn theoreticals. I am sure that lots of other people are in similar situations, after all.


Three ranked Towers remain. Next one is all the way in February, Wind Tower. For anyone wondering "wait, where is Light Tower?" welp, sorry, that's aaaaaall the way to June!

[Slashley]

Geez, it's been a while since the last Tower, huh? But well, the Wind Tower is here again. The EXACT same Wind Tower as last time, mind you.

Here's a slightly updated chart.https://i.imgur.com/VcTGoK8.pngIn the past 9 months or so, Fire has only gained Tishtrya and a couple of Hime capable of Guard. Wow, thanks devs. Well, I guess Dian is there too, and she shouldn't be sold short.

Then for my plan:https://i.imgur.com/PjO9UrB.pngAs always, don't do what I do, adapt to your own team.

So in the past 9 months, all that has happened to my Fire is... uh, let's see.
1. Medea and Yori are now accessible.
2. Yamaraja is now Awakened.
3. Pulled Vahagn from KamiPro festa gacha, will improvise her in there somewhere for sure.
4. Replaced a Vlad Lance with a Python Lance in Grid.
Wow! It's fucking nothing. I'm still weak as shit, which means that I'm turtling three floors again. Not taking any risks with this garbage I have. Losing 120-150 points to turtling is nothing compared to fucking up a floor. Thank heavens that Culyune is a turtling GOD.

[Rattington]

Hey Yo, got a quick Tower noob question for ya'll. Can I just move my best accessories around or do they get locked with their himes.
Thanks in advance.

Rat-a-tat-tat Boom Boom Baby

[Slashley]

If you can be bothered, you can move them around as much as you want. Only Hime get locked.

[Slashley]

So, the third Wind Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
01. SwampyKong 15850 [71k,160e,409H] (DarkHell)
02. AsD2038 15840 [79k,160e,394H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
02. Yion 15840 [64k, GE,316H] (Isekai)
04. (moonrunes) 15830 [74k,140e,431H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. (moonrunes) 15830 [76k,120e,331H] (Kami Sutra)
04. nonsensei 15830 [67k, GE,352H] ()
04. Char Aznable 15830 [64k,160e,352H] ()
08. xelloss1012 15820 [77k,155e,415H] (DarkHell)
09. Machis Saber 15810 [70k,160e,374H] (DarkHell)
09. mlw61520 15810 [81k,105e,376H] (Khaos)
09. 666 15810 [82k,145e,406H] ((moonrunes))
12. Bass 15800 [62k, GE,316H] (Susurrus)
12. SiegeDragon 15800 [72k,110e,395H] (Isekai)
12. VERYVOODOO 15800 [74k, GE,352H] (Ixion)
12. AXSXCE 15800 [82k,100e,400H] (RedPhantom)
12. dreamlitz 15800 [74k, GE,355H] (Nonsense)
17. ChaosPrince42 15790 [72k,100e,373H] (RedPhantom)
17. wtmsb 15790 [71k,100e,363H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
17. tz1987 15790 [78k,100e,338H] (20something)
20. Shiro 15780 [68k,100e,369H] (Isekai)
20. Zyken 15780 [70k,160e,351H] (Susurrus)
20. Crest 15780 [83k,160e,418H] (Drama Club)
20. Arrow 15780 [86k,115e,385H] (Gacha)
20. keajo 15780 [72k,120e,390H] (RedPhantom)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
64. Slashley 15660 [62k,100e,370H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

Personally, probably my worst Tower ranking ever. But no regrets. Through some sorcery I managed to 4-turn on-element 15F, but thankfully I didn't let that get into my head. I didn't even come close to 9-turning 19F, which for a Byakko owner is truly, truly, TRULY a horrid display. So yeah, good thing I didn't take any chances with 18F or 20F. Completing all missions is far, far more important than rankings.

Seeing as nonsensei is not in a Union anymore, he is either leaving Drama Club or quitting. Which would be a shame, since he has basically been at the top of every single ranked event from the very beginning. Probably the most consistent player that we have had, which is quite the feat for a roster intensive gacha game like Kamihime.




Two more ranked Tower events remain. Fire in May, and Dark in July.

[powersurge]

ugh i was 1% away from beating floor 18 :( but it did go good for me since i beat floor 17 in 1 try but hodor was the death of me, made to many mistakes there

[VeryVoodoo]

Don't worry, f18 is generally always the toughest floor (going by hp pools). It's a cursed floor, that seems to usually cause people to fuck up something in there.

[Slashley]

So, today is the day that most people will play Tower, so uh, what better time to post this? Better almost late than never, right? First off, the updated version of skills:
https://i.imgur.com/bfPSMGh.png

Secondly, my plan, or rather part 1 of the plan:
https://i.imgur.com/vvF4q8O.png

I'd really, really, really like to get perfect score this time around but... ... fuck, it's just not happening. Fast teams go so badly against my playstyle it's not even funny -_-
I think I should get 15F and 16F, but I have no idea if 13F and 14F will go smoothly. Trying to think of how to build something that FBs on turn4 just doesn't work for me. As such, I'm leaving planning the later floors after I see how I do on F16.

Since Machine Beasts are out, I assume that top10 will be full score people at least, which means that even if I accomplish something like -40 points it won't even be top20 yet again.

[Slashley]

After watching dreamlitz's videos, I realized that I had entirely forgotten about Water Labyrinth Swords. Whoops? Well, thanks to Elaborate buff those things do some serious work now. Made 13F and 14F take 0-1 turns.

Anyway, videos:
15F:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AOhP0-w7SI16F:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJm_2uybvsY

[Slashley]

Welp, I can confidently say that I have no fucking idea what I am doing. Even F17 strat was shamelessly stolen from dreamlitz's video.https://i.imgur.com/UQcnibu.pngHow is this going to turn out? I have no idea.

Fuck doing stuff in 4 turns.

[Slashley]

Videos:
17F:
https://youtu.be/jAormN_ElKc18F:
https://youtu.be/vxOHPXTKGRc19F:
https://youtu.be/H9Wtn-U79gM20F:
https://youtu.be/ivYQyN39D-s20F off-ele:
https://youtu.be/qZ26rgCFdfU15F off-ele:
https://youtu.be/aRBauM0Kj7Y

[powersurge]

i did 15F with off element regarding the second time to defeat it
after i just brute forced it to floor 17 and won and floor 18 and beyond are not doable atm since well no T4 souls :P
oh well did good this time

[Slashley]

So, the third Fire Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. Slashley 15850 [73k,160e,376H] (Isekai)
01. wickedgod02 15850 [63k,120e,350H] (Weeb Wanks)
01. SwampyKong 15850 [84k, 4HD,422H] (DarkHell)
01. Char Aznable 15850 [71k,160e,371H] (NeoZeon)
01. AsD2038 15850 [87k,155e,407H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
01. baka123 15850 [75k,120e,327H] (20something)
01. HuanyKinet 15850 [64k,140e,352H] (Nonsense)
08. VERYVOODOO 15840 [75k, GE,365H] (Ixion)
08. Caldernaji 15840 [77k,160e,349H] (DarkHell)
08. dreamlitz 15840 [81k,105e,370H] (Nonsense)
11. Bigglack 15830 [77k, 4HD,383H] (Drama Club)
11. ChaosPrince42 15830 [74k,160e,397H] (RedPhantom)
11. mlw61520 15830 [86k,100e,389H] (mlw61520)
11. Myth 15830 [74k,150e,405H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
11. 666 15830 [89k,145e,426H] (20something)
16. Skybullet 15820 [93k,160e,397H] (ToF)
16. (moonrunes) 15820 [67k,140e,360H] (20something)
16. xelloss1012 15820 [74k,120e,430H] (DarkHell)
16. KonaKagamin 15820 [62k, 4HD,329H] (DeathLotus)
20. Kalin 15810 [66k,155e,412H] (Weeb Wanks)
20. Gold 15810 [76k,155e,364H] (Isekai)
20. Ayamechan 15810 [77k,120e,409H] (Weeb Wanks)
20. Caje 15810 [76k,160e,370H] ((moonrunes))
20. natas035 15810 [77k,140e,414H] (Isekai)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian, *HD for Stars of Heavenly Disaster]Good work, everyone. Especially me!

So lotsa people got full score this time around. Two things changed: Machine Beasts are really OP for ranked Tower, and Heavenly Water Disaster made damage output go through the roof. While Heavenly Light Disaster won't make it for Dark Tower in two months, I assume people will grind lots more Machine Beasts in the meantime. Considering how many Light mains there are on Nutaku too, I assume that ~top50 will be perfect scores for the final ranked Tower. Which is why I'm already saying that I'm only gonna list names next time, not Union or other info!


Personally, couldn't be happier with the results. I finally produced something other than hot air. Yay. I probably couldn't have done it without dreamlitz's videos, so thanks for that!

But, by far the most important thing is that I beat Voodoo. YEAH, EAT IT YOU SCRUB, GIT GUDSlashley 2 - Voodoo 59

[Slashley]

Well, the first "real" day of Tower just rolled around so this is late but... work has been keeping me busy.

Anyway, here is the "important" thing:
https://i.imgur.com/jO5Had3.png
Notice that due to lack of caring on my part, this is basically entirely taken from English Wiki. Any mistakes and/or missing Hime are theirs, okay!

Secondly, here is the first part of my plan:https://i.imgur.com/HNvoTyC.pngSince I have found fuck-all Light Hime, I have not invested into my Light Grid. At all. My Hime hit for a whopping 70k without debuffs. This means that I can expect a whopping 3.6m Full Bursts. Whoooooooo.

Now that turtle teams have been killed off, how am I supposed to beat 16F - where you're more or less expected to deal 8.25m FB? I suppose Awakened Frey + Byakko gets me to 14.4m, but how am I supposed to reach the second boss Rage phase with that damage output... sigh. I just don't think that I can even clear all missions this time around.

[Slashley]

Welp, realized last second that running Ascle against content that doesn't do single-target damage is pretty dumb, so ran Paras instead. Turns out it was a very, very good idea.

I went in just to survive with my garbage Grid (and that's why there is Ascension in there), did not think that I would easily kill it in 8 turns.
https://youtu.be/J3maax6SqlQCertainly nothing impressive for Light mains, but damn it, I'm glad to have just survived the damn thing.

[powersurge]

Welp, realized last second that running Ascle against content that doesn't do single-target damage is pretty dumb, so ran Paras instead. Turns out it was a very, very good idea.

I went in just to survive with my garbage Grid (and that's why there is Ascension in there), did not think that I would easily kill it in 8 turns.
https://youtu.be/J3maax6SqlQCertainly nothing impressive for Light mains, but damn it, I'm glad to have just survived the damn thing.

yeah i used the same team aswell for that floor and barely survived with 5 intact (sol is so effing good) that rage phase is a killer but if awakened frey gets her burst well buhbye rage phase lol
i am gonna wing it for floor 17 and that will be that for me :P

[999kirby]

yeah i used the same team aswell for that floor and barely survived with 5 intact (sol is so effing good) that rage phase is a killer but if awakened frey gets her burst well buhbye rage phase lol
i am gonna wing it for floor 17 and that will be that for me :P

Even though I can't clear in under 4 turns too, but so far, no death :)
Flawless victory!
14246

[powersurge]

Even though I can't clear in under 4 turns too, but so far, no death :)
Flawless victory!
14246

noice!, i managed to defeat floor 18 so dont know my final rank yet but i reckon i did well :P

[999kirby]

noice!, i managed to defeat floor 18 so dont know my final rank yet but i reckon i did well :P

My updated score turn out to be rank 14 :)

Maybe after I clear floor 20, my top 20 is ensure
14247

[Slashley]

Well, this won't help anyone since I've been busy and there's only a few hours left of the final day of Tower, but here is my extremely rushed thingy for the later half.https://i.imgur.com/cB8mh3T.pngNo idea if I can actually do it, but oh well. I guess I'll find out.

[999kirby]

Okay, finally clear 20th floor twice with my last 2 keys.
14248

My final score!
14249

[powersurge]

Okay, finally clear 20th floor twice with my last 2 keys.
14248

My final score!
14249

nice, shame the tower page is bugged out at this point so cant accept any rewards lol

[Wolfheinirich]

Well, this won't help anyone since I've been busy and there's only a few hours left of the final day of Tower, but here is my extremely rushed thingy for the later half.https://i.imgur.com/cB8mh3T.pngNo idea if I can actually do it, but oh well. I guess I'll find out.

Got my first full mission clear referencing your plan. I don't always reply here but your work is definitely appreciated

[Slashley]

My updated score turn out to be rank 14 :)

Maybe after I clear floor 20, my top 20 is ensureNotice that anything that isn't perfect score is unlikely to land in top50, much less top20.


In other news, as mentioned, the Tower Event page is gone, but it should be accessible if anyone digs up the eventID from the gamefiles or something. This has happened multiple times before (only on Nutaku as far as I know) and they have always fixed it a few days (or a few weeks) later. Everyone will get their Ranking rewards, just after a bit.

[999kirby]

Notice that anything that isn't perfect score is unlikely to land in top50, much less top20.


In other news, as mentioned, the Tower Event page is gone, but it should be accessible if anyone digs up the eventID from the gamefiles or something. This has happened multiple times before (only on Nutaku as far as I know) and they have always fixed it a few days (or a few weeks) later. Everyone will get their Ranking rewards, just after a bit.

Aye, you're right. After the updated score, I am rank 97. Oh well, top 100 is still fine by me.

[Slashley]

So, the second Dark Tower has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

01. (moonrunes#1) 15850 [120e,459H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
01. (moonrunes#2) 15850 [120e,402H] (20something)
01. WWWWONISAN 15850 [120e,358H] (Weeb Wanks)
01. alex 15850 [120e,393H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
01. AsD2038 15850 [100e,419H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
01. dreamlitz 15850 [120e,378H] (Nonsense)
01. baka123 15850 [ GE,334H] (20something)
01. Yion 15850 [115e,328H] (Isekai)
01. Xianyu 15850 [120e,397H] (20something)
01. (moonrunes#3) 15850 [120e,440H] (20something)
01. HuanyKinet 15850 [120e,369H] (Nonsense)
12. Skybullet 15840 [120e,409H] (ToF)
12. VERYVOODOO 15840 [120e,369H] (Ixion)
12. Cyler 15840 [120e,407H] (DeathLotus)
12. AXSXCE 15840 [120e,432H] (RedPhantom)
12. keajo 15840 [120e,423H] (RedPhantom)
12. Hellcow 15840 [120e,420H] (Ouroboros)
12. Char Aznable 15840 [105e,377H] (DarkHell)
12. God of War 15840 [120e,302H] (Isekai)
12. (moonrunes#4) 15840 [120e,446H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
47. Slashley 15760 [ 90e,385H] (Isekai)Good work, everyone.

Well, a most unexpected thing: only 11 people with full scores and only 9 people with -10 points. And a total of 46 people with -80 points or better. That's... huh. I didn't think for a moment that I'd get to top50 this time around.

And 8/20 people were Chinese(/Japanese?) players, har.


Anyway. Ranked Towers are now over. Next Tower will have some changes to it, off the top of my head:
- No more rankings.
- No more turn bonuses.
- All missions unified, so no longer the need to bring "2 of x-type" into some floors. NOTICE THAT YOU MUST BRING 4 HIME TO THE FIRST SIX FLOORS NOW!!!
- "higher floors made easier", whatever that means.
- The amount of Medals which can be earned has dropped from ~20k to ~10k.
- Hime can now be used 3 times per event, significantly making things easier from our current "2-day cooldown" system.

Later down the line, turn bonuses come back. Not sure when this happens and I can't be arsed to check, but don't expect it for months. Notice that you'll drop 10 points per TWO turns, up from our current FIVE turns.

And about one year from now, Tower brings back rankings and introduces floors 21-25F. Or something. I can't be arsed to check.


So yeah, RIP this thread. See you in a year or so, I guess.

[Slashley]

I'm not going to make a proper post for this Tower. This post (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/5022-tower-megatread-post153603.html#post153603) from whopping 17 months ago has basically what you need. Scroll down and you'll find videos of the clears, as well as the plan for 17F-20F. Notice that the "higher floors" are now easier, whatever that means. I assume 16F+ has less HP and/or do less damage, I don't know. There will be no bonus Medals for clearing fast, so you can just make steady and strong teams instead of risky high-hitters anyway.

But what you need to remember is that you need to run FOUR HIME TO THE FIRST SIX FLOORS. We've been using two Hime for years, so people are going to fuck that up. Again, BRING A FUCKING FULL TEAM TO THE FIRST FEW FLOORS.