New DMM Kamihime English Server Release.

[Laventale]

Announcement: https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1118708573532385280

As many of you have noticed already, it seems like DMM is opening its own Kamihime Project EN server without Nutaku's services. Nutaku's KHP will not be closing down and data from Nutaku's KHP will not be transferred to the new server.

What does that mean to people that has been already playing for 2 years? I don't even know, but I'll you guys discuss this topic in this thread.

Have fun. :silly:

[Wolfheinirich]

It's hard to speculate at this point but unless DMM is doing their own translation, they are probably just using Nutaku's translation so there is a possibility that both will coexist until the players started dropping off like flies.

[QXZ]

i m slightly concerned that Nutaku might get cut-off by DMM.... and if they do, i hope players get compensated... but its hard since nutaku wont give up their user data.

[Laventale]

i m slightly concerned that Nutaku might get cut-off by DMM.... and if they do, i hope players get compensated... but its hard since nutaku wont give up their user data.

12392

Seems like that should be the least of your concerns.

[Skulkraken]

DMM's website for its upcoming English Kamihime release doesn't say that players won't be able to transfer over from Nutaku's version. Instead, it has a note saying that user data from the Japanese version won't be able to transfer over to the English version.

I am confused. Will players be asked to start over entirely from scratch? Or are they going to just copy everything over from Nutaku's version and not tell Nutaku? :squint:

More importantly, has DMM announced official English releases of any other games in its lineup? Kamihime being in an "English Games" category doesn't really make sense unless there are plans to add more games to that category, so I figure that's what will happen anyway, but...

[Unregistered]

DMM's website for its upcoming English Kamihime release doesn't say that players won't be able to transfer over from Nutaku's version. Instead, it has a note saying that user data from the Japanese version won't be able to transfer over to the English version.

I am confused. Will players be asked to start over entirely from scratch? Or are they going to just copy everything over from Nutaku's version and not tell Nutaku? :squint:

More importantly, has DMM announced official English releases of any other games in its lineup? Kamihime being in an "English Games" category doesn't really make sense unless there are plans to add more games to that category, so I figure that's what will happen anyway, but...

Start from scratch confirmed via twitter
This is the first English release in the new category. Hopefully first of many.

[Unregistered]

I'm confused who DMM is seeing as the potential playerbase here. Since it's the same as the Nutaku version I see very little reason to reroll from either the Japanese or the Nutaku version, unless Nutaku version rips or they only use the Nutaku version as a starting point and then make some major changes. Unless they believe that they can reach an English audience that Nutaku isn't reaching, but who would that be?

[Slashley]

I'm confused who DMM is seeing as the potential playerbase here. Since it's the same as the Nutaku version I see very little reason to reroll from either the Japanese or the Nutaku version, unless Nutaku version rips or they only use the Nutaku version as a starting point and then make some major changes. Unless they believe that they can reach an English audience that Nutaku isn't reaching, but who would that be?I very much doubt that DMM would be that stupid. Fairly certain that this is just step #1 for shutting down Nutaku Kamihime, so that they get rid of the middleman. It is fairly impressive that DMM finds English Kamihime worth the effort. Thanks Bam and Chinese whale unions! :squint:

The second reason would be that they now see potential in English releases and will start doing them themselves now, rather than having a middleman handle it. That's certainly good news for the English audience, just not good news for the Nutaku Kamihime players.

[Laventale]

just not good news for the Nutaku Kamihime players.

Nutaku hasn't been good news for anyone for a long time.

[ArchAngel]

Yeah what Slashley said sound's right,didn't even realize they added so many games lately,they wan't control everything now don't they?or get a nice $ cut,they pushing DMM player damn hard,gief linux support damn it!
ps:I wonder also how they want attract nutaku ppl...besides a server shout down kek

[Laventale]

Yeah what Slashley said sound's right,didn't even realize they added so many games lately,they wan't control everything now don't they?or get a nice $ cut,they pushing DMM player damn hard,gief linux support damn it!
ps:I wonder also how they want attract nutaku ppl...besides a server shout down kek

Free SSR of choice when starting, who knows.

[Dejnov]

Free SSR of choice when starting, who knows.


Sounds great!! When I reroll I can start with BOTH Amaterasu and Sol!! =)


Dejnov.

[Dessires]

left a link, to prove DMM English version when it will relase

[kyc992]

Start from scratch confirmed via twitter
This is the first English release in the new category. Hopefully first of many.

Tried digging on KP twitter, the Japanese official one, but I couldn't find it. Do you mind posting a link? Thank you.

[Laventale]

I'd just wait until further notice is made. I'm just waiting for a release date.

[omelletetherice]

honestly, the thing i most worried about is are we going to be updated to their's. mostly cause i'd rather not be 2yrs+ behind or missing out on a LOT of limited himes. can't handle buying that many mt. the other thing is, will it be fully uncensored (the mosaic comment scares me) and better translated. (seriously, its like nutaku is scared to put dick or penis in a 18+ game) well, only time will really tell thou. here's hoping for some form of good news.

[Laventale]

So it's happening tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1120639741987151872

https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1120639641973972992

[Unregistered]

Interesting that the "how to register" link shows FKG characters as well as Kamihime.


They also got the .com and .co.jp links backwards.

[Dejnov]

So it's happening tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1120639741987151872

https://twitter.com/Kamihime_EN/status/1120639641973972992


Now I'm totally confused... no incentive to actually go to DMM and start over, no start over from year one- first event is a union event (are you kidding me), no carrrying of any data from any prior account.

What's the bloody point of the new server?


Dejnov.


P.S. This looks so half ass backwards I can't even tell you what they're thinking... are they thinking?

[Laventale]

Now I'm totally confused... no incentive to actually go to DMM and start over, no start over from year one- first event is a union event (are you kidding me), no carrrying of any data from any prior account.

What's the bloody point of the new server?


Dejnov.


P.S. This looks so half ass backwards I can't even tell you what they're thinking... are they thinking?

Yeah, I can't get my head around what the fuck are they thinking? Are they truly gonna bring everything up to Nutaku's servers and just say "Just start over again, lmao"?

[Eliont]

May we have non-fkng-altered story/scene text.
It will be great.

[Dejnov]

Yeah, I can't get my head around what the fuck are they thinking? Are they truly gonna bring everything up to Nutaku's servers and just say "Just start over again, lmao"?

Whelp it looks like DMM is shooting blanks right now? Maybe tomorrow...


Dejnov.

[kyc992]

Seems to be swarmed with more Japanese and Chinese players than there are English. Also it is not a full reset, since you can see how there are AQ5s available. The server is a different one from Nutaku's however, as I tried searching for my ID and could not find anything.

[nut]

Seems to be swarmed with more Japanese and Chinese players than there are English. Also it is not a full reset, since you can see how there are AQ5s available. The server is a different one from Nutaku's however, as I tried searching for my ID and could not find anything.

It's the same server with Taiwan version, same player base too.

[Unregistered]

I mean, they didn't even put in the effort to actually translate all the pages you have to go through to start the game. Gotta love to just randomly getting thrown to a full Japanese page trying to play the English version, to then proceed to get a Japanese error page. Which after google translating it tells me that their servers are currently being nuked. So apparently there are plenty of people interested, even though I've yet to find a reason to reroll from the Nutaku version.

[Unregistered]

It's the same server with Taiwan version, same player base too.

So... we were just thrown unto another, pre-existing server? Seems lazy tbh

[nut]

So... we were just thrown unto another, pre-existing server? Seems lazy tbh

Yeah, not a server where everyone start fresh so I find no reason to switch from Nutaku to this, look at the ranking of their past event, they seem to as strong as us or even stronger.

[Laventale]

And I nopped the fuck outta that server. Thank you very much DMM.

[Unregistered]

DMM version is up now....

6k jewel and 10 elixir....

JP 6k when?

[Dejnov]

Well definitely a fail (can't even get on the game wtf)...

I see tacos in my future...


Dejnov.

[Zuka]

Pointless. Should it be a true reset and new server for everyone, or if they would somehow transfer progress from Nutaku? Sure. Starting from zero and at this point of the game? With ton of whales? For new players, sure, but for those who invested time and money? Meh...

[Unregistered]

Smells to me like they're up to no good. If they do, they definitely owe compensation to whales. I know some will argue about how they don't guarantee anything, and the players knew beforehand an...

[Unregistered]

Not sure what you're going on about... all they did was put the old Taiwan/Chinese server (that has been around as long as ours) up on DMM with a translated UI...

so basically... nothing has changed.

[Laventale]

Fucking hell, who in hell thought that translating an already existing server and throwing people that has been playing for 2 years already into it was a good idea?

Not cool, DMM. Not cool at all.

[Unregistered]

I guess, that Nutaku server will not be closed right after english DMM start only because of licence terms, imho it will be closed just after current licence will be over like it was with another DMM games many times (Aigis, GBR etc). DMM wants to have all money they can, they look at GBF sucsess at non-japaneese markets and definitely want to repeat it, so future of nutaku kamipro is not so bright, i hope that it will be transfer, but who knows... I definitely will not start from the beginning one more time.
At japaneese version a week ago at 21k jewels into wind boosted gacha i've got Hrae + Cybele.. to say that i was shocked is to say nothing, and in several days i read about DMM eng kamipro. I guess that it was a sign to drop nutaku completely and focus at DMM version.

[Laventale]

so future of nutaku kamipro is not so bright

If that happened and I was a Veteran with continous progress on my account, I'd outright quit, fuck off. The "NEW" server is trash, there's absolutely no point to start all over again over there because it has the same progression as the Nutaku server.

[Dejnov]

If that happened and I was a Veteran with continous progress on my account, I'd outright quit, fuck off. The "NEW" server is trash, there's absolutely no point to start all over again over there because it has the same progression as the Nutaku server.


Agree 100%. I got better things to do than to be told I'm gonna compete with a 2 year handicap cuz DMM said so.


Fuck 'em. I like my Hentai games the same way I like my porn.... free!!!


Dejnov.

[Unregistered]

Well, I guess they just changed the UI of the existing Taiwanese Server into English ,so they could reach more players, who don't read Chinese.

[omelletetherice]

really don't matter if u can't even get past the register page. keep getting an error talking about it being to crowded. don't seem like no real reason to join anyways. (thought they would of at least gave us a couple mt to get started)

[Laventale]

really don't matter if u can't even get past the register page. keep getting an error talking about it being to crowded. don't seem like no real reason to join anyways. (thought they would of at least gave us a couple mt to get started)

Nah, they just give you 7k Jewels and the Anniversary Log-in rewards, nothing else.

[sanahtlig]

I'm guessing that Nutaku owns the user data (or at the very least, the authentication key that links a given user to an account), and they're refusing to share it with DMM. After all, why would you give up your sole leverage in negotiations over a thriving income source?

Also, I checked the DMM version and the translation is the same as the Nutaku version, i.e., the censored text suggesting coerced sex is still censored.

[Wolfheinirich]

I'm guessing that Nutaku owns the user data (or at the very least, the authentication key that links a given user to an account), and they're refusing to share it with DMM. After all, why would you give up your sole leverage in negotiations over a thriving income source?

Also, I checked the DMM version and the translation is the same as the Nutaku version, i.e., the censored text suggesting coerced sex is still censored.

Which coincide with my earlier assumption that DMM is just leveraging the already existed Nutaku translation to allow none Japanese speaking people to play their game in their time zone.

[Laventale]

Which coincide with my earlier assumption that DMM is just leveraging the already existed Nutaku translation to allow none Japanese speaking people to play their game in their time zone.

Yeah, but no one is gonna leave his 2 years-old account behind and jump ship to start over on a server that is already as advanced as the server that "new" guy used to play before. This "new server" idea was nothing short of retarded.

[Unregistered]

Yeah, but no one is gonna leave his 2 years-old account behind and jump ship to start over on a server that is already as advanced as the server that "new" guy used to play before. This "new server" idea was nothing short of retarded.

Agreed, they should just allow players to select language on japaneese server and make comfortable registration/payment/support system in english, like GBF did instead of creating new server. The game is too PTW to expect that many whales (and veteran players with 1 year + account too) will move withount data transfer to a new server, that is still 1 year behind the main version. Actualy DMM main version is easier to develop (excluding rerolls with 3k jevels instead of 6k) and it's possible to have at least 1 full ssr team in a year of play with 0$ spent.

[ArchAngel]

Agreed, they should just allow players to select language on japaneese server and make comfortable registration/payment/support system in english, like GBF did instead of creating new server. The game is too PTW to expect that many whales (and veteran players with 1 year + account too) will move withount data transfer to a new server, that is still 1 year behind the main version. Actualy DMM main version is easier to develop (excluding rerolls with 3k jevels instead of 6k) and it's possible to have at least 1 full ssr team in a year of play with 0$ spent.

That would be my dream! JP also atm it's best for new players (especially water with the past raids)

Also i don't wanna suspect Nutaku or anything...but.... i have 3x time more SSR from DMM JP from free stuff (and my nutaku account only 1-2 month behind JP) +and in nutaku easyer get more tower/union bonus rank rewards....

From premium tickets alone i had only 2xSSR in one year >.> (100% grind everything raid etc,once bought even from Tower medals one cuz from rank 600 bonus,and i was like whatever) meanwhile on DMM JP...can't even count and just got my 140% water 2x week ago yay

[tyu]

Agreed, they should just allow players to select language on japaneese server and make comfortable registration/payment/support system in english, like GBF did instead of creating new server. The game is too PTW to expect that many whales (and veteran players with 1 year + account too) will move withount data transfer to a new server, that is still 1 year behind the main version. Actualy DMM main version is easier to develop (excluding rerolls with 3k jevels instead of 6k) and it's possible to have at least 1 full ssr team in a year of play with 0$ spent.

The translation from the year's difference probably hasn't been done yet. It really does look like some sort of screw up though, since the whole idea makes no sense.

[x255]

Yeah, but no one is gonna leave his 2 years-old account behind and jump ship to start over on a server that is already as advanced as the server that "new" guy used to play before. This "new server" idea was nothing short of retarded.
For now it's (mostly) a blackmail to force Nutaku into more favourable cut/terms and to test the waters.

If Nutaku won't be cooperative and/or new server takes up well enough by itself, Nutaku's license will get the prompt ax, and all these Nutaku players will get no choice but to move.

And as other people correctly pointed out, its separate from JP server because it has different content due to need for translation. DMM not willing to delay JP content based on need to translate on launch and its extremely difficult to share playerbase between servers with different content on them (plethora of bugs&exploits possible).

[Unregistered]

the problem is that there's no catch up mechanic yet in the dmm eng version (not in nutaku either lol), once they get to where dmm jp was w the update in half elixir and seed drops as well as the ability of challenging the old events like quetzal, st nick, crom, etc for 1 copy of the mlb eido and weapon, should be better for new players, also they could have tossed in more jewels for new players

[Skulkraken]

Tried it out just to see what it's like. It's pretty funny that the help files still mention buying coins using Nutaku gold. :sweat: