Guild Games Megathread [Archive]

Kitty

08-03-2019, 03:16 AM

https://cf.static.r.kamihimeproject.dmmgames.com/resources/pc/normal/0d/6a/a47cb67627d4e3ef9e08c183b97a6454ec8d749da310f76b1f ec84aa98e40d6a.jpg

The first Guild Games is here, and no, despite the name it's not a Union based event.

With unlimited chances to join battle, you can put all your teams' damage to the test without anyone getting in your way.
Try and get the most DMG you can possibly get, with all the right buffs, abilities and bursts, within 15 turns!

The battles cost 0 AP/BP and give 0 EXP/Gems.
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Monday ~ Tuesday [Thunder/Fire]
Wednesday ~ Thursday [Water/Wind]
Friday ~ Saturday [Light/Dark]
Sunday [All attributes]

HP is infinite and Affliction RST is slightly higher than usual, even with elemental advantage, hence why you can challenge multiple times and try to land debuffs then fight. (If you need to, to get decent DMG.)
The enemy can also give you ATK buffs.
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Trigger Turns and Enemy Bursts:

1~2 [Standard]
3~5 [Expert]
6~8 [Ultimate]
9~15 [Ragnarok]

1 - Phantom DMG to all allies
2 - Random x5 DMG to an ally
3 - Oversized DMG to allies

tl;dr enemy becomes stronger each few turns.
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Ranks 1~4000 will be guaranteed to receive 10,000 Guild Medals and UP.

1~5 [15,000 Guild Medals + 1,500 Magic Jewels]
6~15 [15,000 Guild Medals + 1,000 Magic Jewels]
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501~1000 [13,000 Guild Medals]
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These are available AFTER the event ends, similar to Union Ranking Rewards
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The rewards for accumulated DMG dealt between each stage is up to 55M DMG and you will receive DURING the event:

x3 Premium Gacha Ticket
x2 SR Ticket
x1 SR Kamihime Ticket
x2 Draconic Eye Shards
x2,000 Guild Medals
+ more
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Good luck everyone.

Slashley

08-03-2019, 03:27 AM

SKILL CHECKER-KUN

Since Nutaku only has 1k players (13k Medal reward) and you get 2k Medals from the event directly, it sounds like everyone gets one of those Eidolon bricks per event (which cost 15k, unlike weapon Bricks which cost 10k Tower Medals). Not bad.

As for rankings themselves, I kinda doubt I'll even hit top300. With zero P2W Eidolons and no batshit crazy team comps like what Light can currently pull off, I doubt I'll have much of a chance. Guessing that top20 will be all Fluffy+Michael AW builds, since the advantage of Michael AW over 15 turns with is just crazy.

Kitty

08-03-2019, 03:32 AM

Luckily I pulled Michael from a single jew draw like two weeks ago... I have Managrandma too but eh I'll prob suck ass.
Doesn't matter tho like you said. Everyone gets a fuccton of stuff and I'm totally fine with top 100~200.

tho i'm the special type of retard that would spend 15k medals on 5 gacha ticket things
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/541728355930865674.png

Itoshira

08-04-2019, 12:05 AM

SKILL CHECKER-KUN

As for rankings themselves, I kinda doubt I'll even hit top300. With zero P2W Eidolons and no batshit crazy team comps like what Light can currently pull off, I doubt I'll have much of a chance. Guessing that top20 will be all Fluffy+Michael AW builds, since the advantage of Michael AW over 15 turns with is just crazy.

Well, Michael AW is sure one part of the 'problem', but not the sole culprit.
The fact that you can have:

Tiara Set
Tish
Lugh
Iris (will come with Envy UE)

That is the real Synergy overload that's gonna happen. It is glass cannon, but the amount of BG-Generation, DATA-Rate increase and on top having Shingen boosting Burst power into oblivion lets you even forget what type of Grids you can have behind that.

On top, if you pace properly, you can avoid ODs for like 10+ turns, which makes this even more absurd.

Unregistered

08-05-2019, 08:53 AM

A question: Burst time will take effect for this event?

Kitty

08-05-2019, 09:07 AM

A question: Burst time will take effect for this event?

Nope~ no burst time at all, it's like an advent in those regards

Chrestomancy

08-05-2019, 12:53 PM

Thanks Kitty, I did not know this was coming. Looks fun!

My target is to stay within about 100 ranks of Slashey. I've got some eclectic teams, nothing really going to bring me into contention. Every team has something going for it. I'm guessing Wind will give me the win but it could be Light, Thunder or Water for all I know.

Fire - Okay, my Fire team has nothing going for it.

Water - I have 6 SSR 3* Glaives and the Phantom Glaive. I have 5 SSR Kamihime, with Nike Unleashed and Cthulhu's debuffs stacking nicely. Poseidon isn't maxed out yet as I picked her up last week, but hopefully I'll have her awakened and levelled by Thursday.

Wind - Aether + 2* (Lv70) Dragoon

Thunder - Entire weapon grid SL20+, 6 SSR Kamihimes including Awakened Thor, Awakened Marduk.

Light - Awakened Michael and Uzume supporting to give a guaranteed burst on turn 3, then 4-burst on 6, 1 burst on 7 and full-burst on 8.

Dark - Anubis, my only top-tier Eidolon, with 5 badly matched SSR kamihime.

Kitty

08-05-2019, 12:56 PM

My target is to stay within about 100 ranks of Slashey.

just use R teams, ez

just kidding tht was a mean joke

Torkov

08-06-2019, 01:33 AM

I did 17.000.000 DMG agains Thunder and 20.000.000 DMG against fire with AAB and shingen. We have infinite attempt to try this event apparently. so getting the rewards won't be a problem.

nut

08-06-2019, 04:19 AM

DMM first Guild Combat ranking (best) for reference

rank: 1 score: 142171324 player: 月雫 element: Light
rank: 2 score: 134783103 player: せるぎー element: Light
rank: 3 score: 134547145 player: めがえら element: Light
rank: 4 score: 132926566 player: ぐらころ element: Light
rank: 5 score: 132862865 player: P-NIKI element: Light
rank: 6 score: 126694217 player: 今日のわんこ♂ element: Light
rank: 7 score: 125631283 player: ゆうこ, element: Thunder
rank: 8 score: 123237568 player: ソルガディ element: Wind
rank: 9 score: 123131656 player: 緑茶カテキン element: Light
rank: 10 score: 122958375 player: chrno element: Light
rank: 11 score: 122260035 player: しってるこ element: Light
rank: 12 score: 121869747 player: tenpai element: Light
rank: 13 score: 121168916 player: ロキ element: Not sure
rank: 14 score: 120726206 player: akisimon element: Thunder
rank: 15 score: 120619527 player: 雪津波 element: Thunder
rank: 16 score: 118583130 player: 双子山 element: Light
rank: 17 score: 117323309 player: 天月零 element: Light
rank: 18 score: 116973660 player: ケイ element: Light
rank: 19 score: 115629497 player: brionac element: Thunder
rank: 20 score: 115169499 player: Erbetie element: Wind

dreamlitz

08-06-2019, 09:49 AM

Slashley

08-06-2019, 11:34 AM

--
Trigger Turns and Enemy Bursts:

1~2 [Standard]
3~5 [Expert]
6~8 [Ultimate]
9~15 [Ragnarok]

1 - Phantom DMG to all allies
2 - Random x5 DMG to an ally
3 - Oversized DMG to allies
--What... does this mean?

I AAB'd the thing twice, and the things it does just seems entirely random. Including stuff like buffing his own Atk, or inflicting exactly 3000 AoE damage (uh, neutral damage...? Is that a thing now?). What is the logic?!
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My target is to stay within about 100 ranks of Slashey.--I am a veteran of this game, so that could be rough. AAB'd 24.8m with Water (Herc VoF, Pruflas instead of Asherah due to event) and 28m with Wind (Shingen still using Gil's EX for Thunder Rag and dying at round 10, har).

Not sure if I'll bother doing a manual run. As I've said before, there is no way I can rank high, and on Nutaku, there's... basically zero incentive to put any effort into this thing. Assuming I rank 1001 (impossible), top5 gets... 600+1500 Jewels and 3000 Medals more than I will. That's one more Eidolon brick per 5 events (one year from now) and absolutely nothing from the Jewels.

Kitty

08-06-2019, 11:40 AM

What... does this mean?

I AAB'd the thing twice, and the things it does just seems entirely random. Including stuff like buffing his own Atk, or inflicting exactly 3000 AoE damage (uh, neutral damage...? Is that a thing now?). What is the logic?!I am a veteran of this game, so that could be rough. AAB'd 24.8m with Water (Herc VoF, Pruflas instead of Asherah due to event) and 28m with Wind (Shingen still using Gil's EX for Thunder Rag and dying at round 10, har).

idek nigga i just copied that shit from the wiki

Kitty

08-07-2019, 03:18 AM

took me a solid minute to realize that I fucked up and clicked the wrong battle lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/608574469878972417/unknown.png

Slashley

08-07-2019, 04:17 AM

Kitty

08-07-2019, 05:10 AM

More AAB results:
21m Fire team, running Andromeda with her HP weapon and -35% Def. I'm actually half surprised Uriel carry nonetheless, but hey :rofl:
46m Thunder team, when running Thor over Marduk as usual. I had a giggle when Skill Checker-kun was Para'd for turns 12-15.

Noice on thunder~
for me, despite having Kirin and Nidhogg, + Sieg + Tyr AW I only managed to get like 32m, which is a bummer.. I prolly relied too much on getting burst times exact for Siegfried and delayed everyone's burst by a lot. Maybe I'll try without her and use Shingen or something.

26m for fire because my fire team is ass.

Unregistered

08-07-2019, 05:53 AM

Looks like rewards won't be quite as free as everyone was expecting.

■ Guild Combat Competition balance■

Thank you for playing Kamihime Project.

Currently, the Guild Combat Competition Ranking scale is not properly adjusted to the actual players' number.
We will balance it as we did with the Crucible Combat to fit better with the community and assure a minimum of competition.

The fix will be updated within the next maintenance

Chrestomancy

08-07-2019, 07:16 AM

I am a veteran of this game, so that could be rough. AAB'd 24.8m with Water (Herc VoF, Pruflas instead of Asherah due to event) and 28m with Wind (Shingen still using Gil's EX for Thunder Rag and dying at round 10, har).

I have been playing Nutaku version since day 0. Didn't play much first 6 months though, play-for-free and without re-rolling even once, so I'll never be top 100 (unless most everyone drops out, so never say never :) ) If it wasn't rough, it wouldn't be a target. As my gf says, no point trying if it isn't hard.

How you get 46M AAB on Thunder though I need to figure out. I'm breaking 20M on each run 'cept Fire, but my Thor/Marduk primary isn't hitting hard. Keeping the enemy permanently paralysed is not much help when limited to 15 turns.

just use R teams, ez

kek

You've seen my fire team then?

Slashley

08-07-2019, 08:29 AM

How you get 46M AAB on Thunder though I need to figure out.--I'm a full Thunder baka. Everything is +99, and I've spent six bricks on it - Raiko Hammer (Assault(++)/Pride) and Marduk Hammer (Assault(+)/HP(+)/Exceed). It won't be long until I FLB Mammon Gun (Assault(++)/HP/Vigor), that FLB should be coming within a month. If I could get my hands on Kirin/Nidhogg/Thunder Aphro, my Thunder would be no joke.

Though still no contender for proper Light teams at this point of the game, I'd say.

Nik

08-07-2019, 11:05 AM

Looks like rewards won't be quite as free as everyone was expecting.
The fuck... they're gonna make it so noobs cant get the brick for trying?

nut

08-07-2019, 11:33 AM

Thanks nut!

Also, just to double-check, the element here is the element of the team used right? In-game, it reports the element you fought against.

Oh, and my dmg output is nowhere near 9 figures.

Yeah, the element in this is the advantage element

Slashley

08-08-2019, 03:27 PM

I botched a serious, manual attempt with my Thunder team. Only 54m damage. I guess more on Sunday, since I can have 2-3 tries on that day.
https://youtu.be/gxGYFGiaok4It wasn't ALL my fault as a certain something made me drop debuffs, which made me shit my pants and I missed my PF as well.

Also, lessons were learned from this, Raiko+Shingen is pretty damn fast. Should've kept EI up for the first Full Burst for PF. Now I was like "Turn4, I don't want to delay my Full Burst by 1-2 turns by waiting for PF, do I?"

Kitty

08-09-2019, 03:14 AM

> only 54m
smfh i only got like 30m and this nigga using yggdrasil

Slashley

08-09-2019, 03:42 AM

> only 54m
smfh i only got like 30m and this nigga using yggdrasilChar Atk is good when stacking all that Elem+, so yeah. Sadly, RNG gods have not blessed me with a Giri.

In other news, "rewards squish" is here. It looks like the only thing which has changed is that ranks 501-1000 went from 13k Medals to 10k Medals. So this effectively only hurts the weakest 50% of the Nutaku population. Nice, Nutaku, nice. Exactly the people you need to hurt.

For veterans, reaching top500 should be no problem even with AAB, and that's where the sweet 13k Medals still is.

Raistlansol

08-09-2019, 03:49 AM

In other news, "rewards squish" is here. It looks like the only thing which has changed is that ranks 501-1000 went from 13k Medals to 10k Medals. So this effectively only hurts the weakest 50% of the Nutaku population. Nice, Nutaku, nice. Exactly the people you need to hurt.
Just for info, I did 10.5k damage on an alt and gave up. Currently rank 6298.

Slashley

08-09-2019, 04:11 AM

Just for info, I did 10.5k damage on an alt and gave up. Currently rank 6298.I mean, I guess there are more than 1000 players, but there is only about 1000 players who are TRYING to get stronger. From the previous Union event:
highscore pp 3585212, rank 808Since that is a bit above the minimum effort of personal PP (500k), we can assume that there is 100-200 more people who got the exact 3.0m. Maybe.

For people past ranks 1000 (not completing personal PP requirements), we can safely assume they don't really give a shit about Guild Comp events either, I think?
That might be a false assumption though, since the last SSR is at 1m personal PP. We don't have data on that, I believe.

And much thanks to the anon(s?) who contribute data in that other thread, it's great to know.

Kitty

08-09-2019, 05:50 AM

tfw Vishnu bursts for 1.6-1.7M w/o PF or kaiser buffs
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314411010301755392/609336819737427998/unknown.png

much higher than I was expecting tbh... lol
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/314411010301755392/609337608681553930/unknown.png

Unregistered

08-09-2019, 01:16 PM

there some point to fight these boss multiple times? i mean i got my best score in first try, so i should keep killing for total score ???or only your best score count to total ranking

th3 fr4gil3

08-09-2019, 03:16 PM

to improve on your best score per element.
there are two ranked scores, Best Element score and Total of all Element scores.

Slashley

08-09-2019, 03:28 PM

15m Light AAB, which isn't surprising considering that my Light Grid is still very much a work in progress.
29m Dark Axe Grid AAB, with Herc running BP.
there some point to fight these boss multiple times? i mean i got my best score in first try, so i should keep killing for total score ???or only your best score count to total rankingOnly your best score in each element counts. So redo if something went horrendously wrong, otherwise, little point. You can always tryhard for the perfect run if you want.

Keep in mind that "highest score" isn't even the most important thing, it's your total score which matters. Which is your highest score in ALL of the elements.

Nik

08-10-2019, 01:14 PM

Char Atk is good when stacking all that Elem+, so yeah. Sadly, RNG gods have not blessed me with a Giri.

In other news, "rewards squish" is here. It looks like the only thing which has changed is that ranks 501-1000 went from 13k Medals to 10k Medals. So this effectively only hurts the weakest 50% of the Nutaku population. Nice, Nutaku, nice. Exactly the people you need to hurt.

For veterans, reaching top500 should be no problem even with AAB, and that's where the sweet 13k Medals still is.

Time to get a lot of holy soul points.
Side note, outside of idols is the only way to get elemental atk through buffs/debuffs?

Slashley

08-10-2019, 01:26 PM

Time to get a lot of holy soul points.
Side note, outside of idols is the only way to get elemental atk through buffs/debuffs?Idols? ... do you mean Eidolons?
Yes, offensive Soul weapon = 30% Elem Atk, elemental advantage = 45% Elem Atk. And buffs, most notably Kaisers (30% at 0-Star, 40% at 1-Star and a whopping 50% at 3-Star).

Slashley

08-12-2019, 03:09 AM

Double postan'

So, I manualed a run with all but my Light team (because what's the point), and here's what I got:
24.8m Water -> 39.2m
28m Wind -> 45.8m
21m Fire -> 51m
29m Dark -> 38m
46m Thunder -> 63.7m

https://youtu.be/kTQxaPYNBXQ
Not perfect, but I'll take it. Mistakes that happened mostly include horrible Eidolon ordering (using Mii AFTER damage abilities, gj!)
and missing one Lock-On from Tyr, that cost me ~1.5m damage. But there's too many Nikes around to keep trying, so yeah, I'll take it.Currently sitting on rank50 for Best and rank72 for Total. My awful, awful Light score (15m) is seriously hurting my Total, but what can you do.

A couple of notes here:
In theory, THEORY, if I had Kirin I'd be ranking ~13 in Best. Because 63.7 * 1.25 = 79.6m. In reality though, I'm not the only person who is lacking dem P2W Eidolons, so competition would be tougher. Also, many abilities are hitting their caps already as are Tyr's bursts, so the ~25% boosted damage doesn't work in reality. It's pretty rough to tell how much more damage Kirin would actually be.

Dark manualing didn't boost the score much. I can think of two reasons: on AAB, Shingen is awful (and was used in other elements) while manualing Herc doesn't do much. Also, with no Tiara set bonuses just yet, Dark is soooooooo goddamn slooooooow. This meant that fast units waiting around for slower ones for Full Burst cost a lot of potential DPS. Outside of Thunder, Dark is the only element I did multiple runs with since I was doing like 33m runs manually. That wasn't much of a boost from the 29m AAB, so I dumped Cherno for Osiris and got my 38m run. I wish I could run Cherno WITH Osiris though, since Cherno is goddamn amazing damage per turn against Light. But what can you do, there was too much waiting around without Osiris speeding the team up.

Unregistered

08-12-2019, 04:22 AM

Slashley

08-12-2019, 04:40 AM

Hi genius, dummy do not require you to use the advantage element to fight each dummy, so why not use your best element to improve some of that score ?The on-element Full Burst bonus is a bit too much. I doubt that my Thunder team could really improve the scores of other elements.

... except on Light, of course, but it's too late for that now~

Chrestomancy

08-12-2019, 12:14 PM

Double postan'

So, I manualed a run with all but my Light team (because what's the point), and here's what I got:
24.8m Water -> 39.2m
28m Wind -> 45.8m
21m Fire -> 51m
29m Dark -> 38m
46m Thunder -> 63.7m

Not perfect, but I'll take it. Mistakes that happened mostly include horrible Eidolon ordering (using Mii AFTER damage abilities, gj!)
and missing one Lock-On from Tyr, that cost me ~1.5m damage. But there's too many Nikes around to keep trying, so yeah, I'll take it.[/SPOILER]Currently sitting on rank50 for Best and rank72 for Total.
<snip>

So I got nowhere near 172 myself (423 this morning, hoping I'm still top 500 tomorrow), so room for improvement in ~10 weeks. Congrats on 63.7M on Thunder. At least I beat you on Light, so that's 1 out of 6!

I need to build a thunder-Shingen option - I'm lacking def debuff on thunder so not sure what that'll look like; I've been clinging to Dart for too long. I'm also considering pushing to get 2 more Thunder SSR glaives so I can make use of my one and only Phantom weapon in Thunder. That'll require a few more eyes to pick the Thunder SSR Glaive weapon in the Draconic Eye mat shop, and buying a duplicate treasure sword with Orichalcon. Only worth doing if I don't pick up another Phantom weapon first - so for now, I'm hoarding and hoping to get a 2nd Glaive, or a Phantom lance or axe drop. Hell, even the gun might be better. Eyes take forever in a low-tier guild, so it's not happening any time soon.

dreamlitz

08-12-2019, 01:54 PM

I need to build a thunder-Shingen option - I'm lacking def debuff on thunder so not sure what that'll look like;

Dunno much about thunder, but if you're struggling with debuffs, Hercules with MLB axe can often be better than Shingen (e.g. if using Herc moves you from 30% def down to 50% def down, that's actually a 40% increase in dmg, which can be as good as Shingen reducing your burst cycle from 5 to 3T, depending on what your DATA and exceed looks like.)

I'm also considering pushing to get 2 more Thunder SSR glaives so I can make use of my one and only Phantom weapon in Thunder.

Not sure what your grid looks like, but if you have to drop two MLB SSR weapon to accommodate 2 LB0 SSR just to activate a phantom weapon, it's usually not worth it, especially if your phantom weapon itself is LB0 (so you're effectively dropping 3 MLB SSR.) If you've done the math and know exactly what you're doing, sure, go ahead, but I would caution against burning eyes just to get a phantom grid running full of LB0 weapons. Also consider using MLB SR instead of LB0 SSR, they're often better - burn orbs to LB ones that are good, at least orbs are easier to farm back.

Chrestomancy

08-13-2019, 09:39 AM

Dunno much about thunder, but if you're struggling with debuffs, Hercules with MLB axe can often be better than Shingen (e.g. if using Herc moves you from 30% def down to 50% def down, that's actually a 40% increase in dmg, which can be as good as Shingen reducing your burst cycle from 5 to 3T, depending on what your DATA and exceed looks like.)

I've got a FLB Herc Axe. It's a small improvement on Dart for overall damage, but it's 4 turns for that first 30% debuff and I've got no affliction resist down to help the Eidolon 12.5% land on turn 7 - SR eidolon burst effects don't stick frequently. Running Herc with Sniper Shot gives similar results for me to Herc with PF. I've not got a FLB Shingen bow in Thunder yet, I'm hoping that will give me a better result, possibly with Sniper Shot again on the bonus rather than the new Shingen-only bonus ability boost. I've also got a long way to go on Ragnarok Raids before I can unlock my first 5 accessory Thunder character.

Not sure what your grid looks like, but if you have to drop two MLB SSR weapon to accommodate 2 LB0 SSR just to activate a phantom weapon, it's usually not worth it, especially if your phantom weapon itself is LB0 (so you're effectively dropping 3 MLB SSR.) If you've done the math and know exactly what you're doing, sure, go ahead, but I would caution against burning eyes just to get a phantom grid running full of LB0 weapons. Also consider using MLB SR instead of LB0 SSR, they're often better - burn orbs to LB ones that are good, at least orbs are easier to farm back.

The aim is to get two lb3 or one lb3 and an mlb; lvl 125 on the Orichalcum thunder Glaive (treasure sword Crusos I think) using just Orichalcum, and lvl 150 on the Eye-mat-shop thunder Glaive using Tower for weapon breaks; I've got 17k unspent as I've got no suitable target weapons since last tower. The slow point here is going to be eyes, even if I don't awaken anybody else it'll take months (on 5 eyes now). The only droppable Thunder glaive is I think Karin's summon, which is pretty long odds, so without resorting to one SR in my grid or a seriously lucky draw of Karin or a 2nd Phantom Glaive weapon, this is my only real hope. This leaves 3 slots, which will be one fbl Thunder gun of Gluttony, one flb Gluttony lance, and my flb Ukko axe (eye-mat-shop weapon)
(edit - clarity)

But I've only just noticed - this event runs into September. I can do some reworking of grids, take down a few dozen more raids for soul weapons, and try again. In reality I'll have to - my score won't keep me in top 500 beyond this week. Every time I think I'm in a good place to cut back on the grind, the game pushes me back in....

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 07:54 AM

Isn't light supposed to be OP and win checker-kun event by a big margin? I have not seen any strong light performance so far.

ChaoticShinra

08-17-2019, 10:29 AM

Isn't light supposed to be OP and win checker-kun event by a big margin? I have not seen any strong light performance so far.

If I recall, and I could be very wrong so someone correct me please, light is very OP in terms of versatility. They can perform most roles exceptionally well. But for straight up pure damage like skill checker, thunder or fire is suppose to be the top contender. Again, someone correct me on this.

Itoshira

08-17-2019, 11:58 AM

You are kinda correct on this one, but there are some minor details missing.

Light has a lot of synergy happening in best case scenarios which are coming to show on this very dummy event. Also, until T4 Shingen arrived, a major bonus Light overall had is a insane amount of speed in terms of BG-Generation which no other element had until this point.
The combo of Lugh, Iris, Tish and Michael AW is, although insane glassy, putting up an insane pace and can barrage Bursts and Full Bursts in quick succession.
Light and Dark are also the only 2 elements that get 3 Exceed weapon from UE events while all others only get 2.

Light is a universal element, you may call it neutral, which can perform against any element to a good degree without taking many risks.

In hindsight, this dummy is also the only one were Light has such an exceptional performance. The others to come give other elements an advantage or levels the playfield for multiple at the same time.

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 03:05 PM

Isn't light supposed to be OP and win checker-kun event by a big margin? I have not seen any strong light performance so far.

Fire, wind, thunder main already have their whale grid, light, in the other hand, not having their whale grid yet. They need to Tish and Vishnu FLB. My Union mate, Geoffchu, a f2p light main, be able to stand in top 5 with only a f2p AXE grid, that’s how OP light are right now, imagine when they have access to spear grid when Tish FLB come and juicy vigor from Vishnu FLB

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 04:35 PM

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 04:38 PM

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 04:42 PM

In hindsight, this dummy is also the only one were Light has such an exceptional performance. The others to come give other elements an advantage or levels the playfield for multiple at the same time.

How did the subsequent dummies give other element advantages?

Slashley

08-17-2019, 04:58 PM

How did the subsequent dummies give other element advantages?They are shorter. Therefore, rather than damage-per-turn, it becomes more of a thing "how high can you burst, bro?"

Next up is your best damage in a SINGLE turn, so effectively your Full Burst turn. For whales who slam 2m on ALL Hime, it becomes just a test of how much can you go above the soft-2m limit. Water is pretty good at that, since you slam Sieg-Ea-Oceanus(SR) during Stun.

For us mere mortals, eh, I doubt anything will change much.

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 06:38 PM

The DMM light mains did not have Tish FLB and Vishnu FLB neither when they owned the first checker-bun though.. I am not sure about thunder, but fire is still missing key hime.
Thunder only missing Raiko AW. Not having Fire Frey really hurt Fire dps because their debuff hime: Mars is meh, Ama is eh and Vahagn is running out of gas fast. But thankfully ascalon/mars whale grid is just too powerfull atm so whale fire main is still on the game aka Igt

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 06:46 PM

About light main in dmm, whale in dmm is a whole different level, they don’t know Tish have FLB at that moment in dmm so whales over their may do some crazy shit like Mike spear grid or even better Shamash book grid (one of the best whale grid for light in the future). I don’t see any problem for light to win this dummy atm with those grid
P/s: i pretty sure whale in nutaku don’t have Shamash grid.

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 09:28 PM

How is wind team performance in dummy events?

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 10:12 PM

Wind does pretty well, although a lot of their strong stuff is still in the future (Az AW, WAtum). To correct Ito a bit, wind actually has 6 exceed weapons, because both their UE weapons give Exceed, so they can definitely cap quite easily, especially considering Aether. You also have the trick with Isis sacrifice for team vigor for a bit more of a boost.

Unregistered

08-17-2019, 11:17 PM

How is wind team performance in dummy events?

Checking DMM dummy round 1 results, top elements are light, thunder and wind.

Unregistered

08-18-2019, 12:36 AM

Itoshira

08-18-2019, 12:52 AM

Light only had 2 UE axes? I might be wrong.

2 Axes up until now, yes, but Greed is only a couple weeks away and it will be Light SSR rewards, so 3rd Axe incoming. Sadly after this dummy, but I also didnt specify my post about this dummy specifically. It was about the general state of Light.

Unregistered

08-18-2019, 05:17 PM

Fire, wind, thunder main already have their whale grid, light, in the other hand, not having their whale grid yet. They need to Tish and Vishnu FLB. My Union mate, Geoffchu, a f2p light main, be able to stand in top 5 with only a f2p AXE grid, that’s how OP light are right now, imagine when they have access to spear grid when Tish FLB come and juicy vigor from Vishnu FLB

and?
Fire cant even run Shingen's 20BG Mex since they have to sacrifice speed for debuffs.
When Fire Freyr, Cerbrus and Haruhi arrives. Fire whales will just destroy 15T dummy even more. (Looking at igt, who already managed 114m w/o 5-6 FBs aka)
Pretty sure idunno and some other fire whales can also hit the 100m+ with fire but from what I saw they don't have Vahagn or Fire Mammon or both.

Light pretty much just got all the speed units for this event and this dummy-kun is just about how many FBs you can shoot.
Every element which can't do that, will obviously fall behind.

Furthermore thunder will soon get Nuwa, which means they can finally run a very strong debuffer... and her skill-set are pretty much scary.

Kitty

08-19-2019, 07:00 AM

Shut up you idiot mod. If you don't like it then remove that system.

can always just ban your account, no problem

https://harem-battle.club/members/sora.html

deleted the spammy retard posts. will close the thread if it continues so consider it a warning

Slashley

08-19-2019, 07:27 AM

I'd just like to point out that calling them retards, but then not allowing them to call you an idiot, was not very... mature. If you're going to do the name calling thing yourself, then aren't you game for it.

Kitty

08-19-2019, 07:46 AM

you don't say. idc if they call me an idiot lmao, but i can edit comments from salty ass anon posters thinking they can do whatever they want just because they're hidden : ) who said i was mature tho :thonk:

anyway it's annoying having to delete two whole pages of ppl calling each other dumbasses for not knowing every fucking detail on a hentai game lmoa. ppl are sad.

Unregistered

08-19-2019, 04:35 PM

Such good discussion earlier, no need to be rude.

Laventale

08-21-2019, 08:24 PM

No need to be disrespectful, even to users at fault.

Kitty

08-22-2019, 03:25 AM

you're a bit late to the party smh. irrelevant post.

anyway to bring this thread back to life, i was hoping for Shiva AW this event so I can redo water and see how much I could do with her instead.
doubt it'd make much difference, tho
my water fucking sucks... still haven't bothered trying with Shingen and her lance because I'm lazy as fuck . . . oof

Slashley

08-22-2019, 03:46 AM

--
my water fucking sucks... still haven't bothered trying with Shingen and her lance because I'm lazy as fuck . . . oofMy Water score is actually with Herc, since I hadn't slvl'd Shingen yet. I have since done it (all but my pitiful Light now have their slvl20 Shingen Spear) aaaaand... I did less damage. Will need to redo that again as there was pretty bad RNG, but damn, Herc is no joke either.

Goes to show just how far a superior damage output Soul (higher damage per hit, more hits per turn on average, 3x 700k Nuke) goes, even if that means that the team's damage is lower (no team-wide +20 burst, no PF, no Multi-Shot Death). I was expecting to do like 50% more with Shingen, but now I'm expecting to do like 10-20% more, assuming better RNG.

Kitty

08-22-2019, 04:01 AM

My Shingen spear is MLB/MSL but I only bothered to try it with Siegfried + Oceanus on my team just as an experiment. I can use Shingens' MEx too because I have Vohu/Ryu-Oh... not sure who to really bring otherwise. Have Shiva, NikeU, Aphro, Raphael and the top tier trashiest SSR hime in the game, Neptune.

It's times like these I wish I was actually unlucky enough to pull Ea, lmao
But eh, the event still on for quite a while so even if I have no motivation now it's whatever /shrug

Unregistered

09-01-2019, 03:28 PM

Is the event ending today?

Unregistered

09-01-2019, 03:52 PM

Is the event ending today?

Tomorrow *10 character*

Unregistered

09-02-2019, 06:26 AM

It seems light is still the winner at the end.

Nezha

09-02-2019, 07:10 AM

Regarding the medals we earned...the best option to buy would be the Eidolon Limit Break thing, right? Especially if you have one of the 100% ones?

Unregistered

09-02-2019, 07:12 AM

Regarding the medals we earned...the best option to buy would be the Eidolon Limit Break thing, right? Especially if you have one of the 100% ones?

Yes - correct.

Unregistered

09-02-2019, 07:41 AM

Unregistered

09-02-2019, 11:54 PM

Can’t log on the game at the moment, can anyone post the dummy ranks?

Unregistered

09-03-2019, 04:25 AM

=== 1st Dummy - Total ===

rank: 1, player_name: "igt", score: 650830978
rank: 2, player_name: "Sirocco", score: 618433939
rank: 3, player_name: "FlyingPengy", score: 532530151
rank: 4, player_name: "geoffchu", score: 532132940
rank: 5, player_name: "Sora", score: 494517798
rank: 6, player_name: "idunno", score: 490414500
rank: 7, player_name: "Rori Juice", score: 454324863
rank: 8, player_name: "Geidt", score: 446587032
rank: 9, player_name: "BadRiddance", score: 437493732
rank: 10, player_name: "Jaded", score: 433136681
rank: 11, player_name: "AsD2038", score: 430269510
rank: 12, player_name: "Kalin", score: 422736969
rank: 13, player_name: "Ken", score: 421960836
rank: 14, player_name: "J0hnT1t0r", score: 421331800
rank: 15, player_name: "blubbergott", score: 421052862
rank: 16, player_name: "raistlan", score: 417589546
rank: 17, player_name: "nonsensei", score: 416272012
rank: 18, player_name: "demonizedtxxx", score: 400431717
rank: 19, player_name: "Arphael", score: 394599097
rank: 20, player_name: "AXSXCE", score: 393203162

=== 1st Dummy - Best===

rank: 1, player_name: "igt", score: 130680535, element: "light"
rank: 2, player_name: "Sirocco", score: 127639411, element: "light"
rank: 3, player_name: "FlyingPengy", score: 120457675, element: "light"
rank: 4, player_name: "geoffchu", score: 106166107, element: "light"
rank: 5, player_name: "Sora", score: 96698148, element: "fire"
rank: 6, player_name: "Rori Juice", score: 93413197, element: "light"
rank: 7, player_name: "idunno", score: 93375040, element: "fire"
rank: 8, player_name: "raistlan", score: 92011154, element: "wind"
rank: 9, player_name: "Ken", score: 89622095, element: "light"
rank: 10, player_name: "Geidt", score: 89621005, element: "light"
rank: 11, player_name: "BadRiddance", score: 89057718, element: "thunder"
rank: 12, player_name: "Madnug", score: 88790082, element: "light"
rank: 13, player_name: "blubbergott", score: 88674747, element: "wind"
rank: 14, player_name: "Astluh", score: 88298192, element: "wind"
rank: 15, player_name: "Div", score: 88120986, element: "fire"
rank: 16, player_name: "TrueRayS", score: 87549250, element: "wind"
rank: 17, player_name: "Yaoder", score: 86723841, element: "light"
rank: 18, player_name: "alex", score: 86375768, element: "light"
rank: 19, player_name: "J0hnT1t0r", score: 86271507, element: "thunder"
rank: 20, player_name: "Kalin", score: 86181855, element: "thunder"

Moroboshi

09-03-2019, 04:57 AM

This many accounts participated in this event:
12903
I've gotten this score using only the soul with an N weapon and N eidolon to battle a dummy. While it's possible to score lower, any normal player would have gotten a higher score.

Slashley

09-04-2019, 03:56 PM

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners of the first Skill Checker-kun event:
Total:

01. igt 650m [7e,302H] (Perfection)
02. Sirocco 618m [5e,309H] (Drama Club)
03. FlyingPengy 532m [4e,222H] (Khaos)
04. geoffchu 532m [1e,197H] (Isekai)
05. Sora 494m [3e,256H] (Susurrus)
06. idunno 490m [5e,298H] (Axis Mundi)
07. Rori Juice 454m [4e,242H] (Isekai)
08. Geidt 446m [5e,284H] (Drama Club)
09. BadRiddance 437m [1e,254H] (Susurrus)
10. Jaded 433m [6e,301H] (DarkHell)
11. AsD2038 430m [6e,278H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
12. Kalin 422m [5e,272H] (NooBreaker)
13. Ken 421m [6e,318H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
14. J0hnT1t0r 421m [1e,247H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
15. blubbergott 421m [2e,261H] (Susurrus)
16. raistlan 417m [4e,271H] (Drama Club)
17. nonsensei 416m [2e,243H] (Drama Club)
18. demonizedtxxx 400m [1e,227H] (Weeb Wanks)
19. Arphael 394m [3e,215H] (Axis Mundi)
20. AXSXCE 393m [4e,272H] (RedPhantom)
[e stands in for 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
81. Slashley 280m [0e,238H] (Kingdom AR)

Highest:

01. igt 130m, light [7e,302H] (Perfection)
02. Sirocco 127m, light [5e,309H] (Drama Club)
03. FlyingPengy 120m, light [4e,222H] (Khaos)
04. geoffchu 106m, light [1e,197H] (Isekai)
05. Sora 096m, fire [3e,256H] (Susurrus)
06. Rori Juice 093m, light [4e,242H] (Isekai)
07. idunno 093m, fire [5e,298H] (Axis Mundi)
08. raistlan 092m, wind [4e,271H] (Drama Club)
09. Ken 089m, light [6e,318H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
10. Geidt 089m, light [5e,284H] (Drama Club)
11. BadRiddance 089m, thunder [1e,254H] (Susurrus)
12. Madnug 088m, light [6e, 324H] (=Akatsuki=)
13. blubbergott 088m, wind [2e,261H] (Susurrus)
14. Astluh 088m, wind [4e, 264H] (DarkHell)
15. Div 088m, fire [2e, 242H] (Godtamers)
16. TrueRayS 087m, wind [1e, 210H] (Isekai)
17. Yaoder 086m, light [3e, 267H] (Rain)
18. alex 086m, light [1e, 249H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
19. J0hnT1t0r 086m, thunder [1e,247H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
20. Kalin 086m, thunder [5e,272H] (NooBreaker)
[e stands in for 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
67. Slashley 063m, thunder [0e,238H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

I would have very much liked to give full team lists and everything, but because this game is coded by incompetent monkeys, such simple data is not saved when you do your best run. So, this is all you get. As always, this is just pure statistics for future reference - draw whatever conclusions you wish.

As for my conclusions, as I expected, without at least one 100%+ Eidolon, one does simply not get into the top20. This might in theory change in future Skill Checker-kun events as they allow for much more gimmicky approaches rather than a test of raw power (although raw power sure fucking helps). But I digress - there's several clear non-whales in those lists, like geoffchu and TrueRayS. Get lucky with a 100%, go full (element) baka, success. Also, fuck all you niggers with 3-4 P2W Eidolons while having less Hime than I do.

Laventale

09-04-2019, 04:49 PM

Kitty

09-04-2019, 05:57 PM

In resume, fuck luckshitters and fuck niggers, got it.

jesus LMAO

romoss

10-21-2019, 04:48 AM

When is 2nd dummy event?

Kitty

10-21-2019, 05:04 AM

When is 2nd dummy event?

should be within the next 2-3 days

romoss

10-21-2019, 05:08 AM

Thanks, which element won the 2nd dummy event in DMM?

romoss

10-22-2019, 08:05 AM

Thanks, which element won the 2nd dummy event in DMM?

No dmm players here?

Naruhodo

10-22-2019, 09:59 AM

Any idea how much highscore damage needed to aim for <1000th place?

Chrestomancy

10-23-2019, 04:15 AM

Slashley

10-23-2019, 05:04 AM

First, wish that the status ailment resist was perfect - the fact I can *occasionally* get a debuff to land just means I'm tempted to try-hard repeat 100's of times until I can get a 50% debuff run.

Second - is it highest single attack this time? It's definitely 12 rounds, but the numbers look about 10% of my total damage, so I'm guessing it is just single highest attack that counts. I could be wrong though.This Skill Checker-kun will lower Def to -45% on round 10. So, use Hoder (or Cerberus) for -50%. No need to RNGfest it up. And yes, this version is single-round damage.

So, disclaimer: I have NOT gone and dug up DMM strats from a year ago, so take everything with more than a bit of salt. But here's what I theorize to be the best things to do:
Step 1: Bring Shingen with Multi-Shot Death.
Step 2: Turn 10: Mii + PF (do NOT use first ability yet, or that's like 200k damage lost right there)
Step 3: Turn 11: Kaiser
Step 4: Turn 12 - go time: turn on Burst, use all buffs, Hoder(/Cerberus), unload all abilities, Full Burst

If you forfeit Mii you can do this one turn earlier, which gives Skill Checker-kun one turn less time. If turn 11 would be a Overdrive turn, this might be a good idea (or just Give Up and try again, heh). Here's a video of my Thunder team going for this tactic:
https://youtu.be/H6Qbfn7KmbISadly, 20m score isn't going to be shit for anyone who has Kirin/Nidhoggr/Thunder Aphro. As such, I don't really care to minmax this run - I forgot to use Kirin to hopefully keep Mammon spamming Snatch and ideally Thor should be at very low HP. Oh, and only using 100% friend Kirin, because really, screw minmaxing when you have no hope of getting anywhere anyway.

The funny thing is, that's still probably going to be a better score than what my Fire will be able to do with Belial. Simply because there's only one Exceed weapon in Fire so far. Will probably have to put in that SR Lance with Assault/Exceed...

So anyway, since this is really just a contest of "how high can you burst, bruh?" there's two things that matter: How much Exceed you have and units that can cheat high numbers on burst (and third would be units that can cheat way higher damage numbers for the entire team, probably specifically Isis). Units like Sieg, Ea and Oceanus can see play here, but be careful - this Skill Checker-kun will only stay Stunned for a very short period of time, so don't delay once Stun happens.

If we had as much access to Exceed as we wanted, I'd like to make a list of all the "x punishers" in the game here, but... since Exceed will cap most people anyway, is there any reason to bother?

Chrestomancy

10-23-2019, 05:38 AM

Cool, thanks Slashey. So the plan is to just survive (but to get extra Pride damage, only barely) to deliver one huge burst. And yeah, time to get Hoder onto the team. Not sure I even finished levelling her up.

I'm thunder-main, but I doubt Thunder will be my highest damage here. I've got 100% Eido on Dark, a Phantom glaive on Water, a Phantom bow on Fire, Michael on Light, Aether on Wind. Burst damage is the thing my Thunder team sucks at. At least Thunder'll have no trouble being in the fight at round 12, my Fire team will need a sacrificial character to die on round 11 each time.

Slashley

10-23-2019, 06:01 AM

-- my Fire team will need a sacrificial character to die on round 11 each time.That won't happen if you manipulate the enemy bubbles with Stun. I just did my Fire run (18m, less than my Thunder despite Belial as expected) and the final Overdrive didn't happen until the fight was over.

Don't be afraid to use buffs and damage abilities early on to push into a faster Stun - remember, you won't need them until turn 12.

ArchAngel

10-23-2019, 02:32 PM

No dmm players here?

13049

GLHF bois

romoss

10-25-2019, 03:44 AM

13049

GLHF bois

Thanks, can you show also the single tab?

Chrestomancy

10-25-2019, 07:34 AM

That won't happen if you manipulate the enemy bubbles with Stun. I just did my Fire run (18m, less than my Thunder despite Belial as expected) and the final Overdrive didn't happen until the fight was over.

Don't be afraid to use buffs and damage abilities early on to push into a faster Stun - remember, you won't need them until turn 12.

Yeah, you say that, but with the ability freeze, some abilities aren't back by turn 12 if I use them turn 1. I also need some way to soak the turn 9 hit, it's over 10k without some def up. No problem for Thunder, but I need to include defence capability in Fire. One turn damage for me in Fire is 7.4m (I've got some team optimisations to add, but probably not as much as another 2m worth). Thunder run is on 11m, but that has a lot more slack to bring in - I'm not on a maxed soul weapon, have another weapon waiting on books to FLB, and didn't get Kaiser on the burst on that run. I expect to beat 11m on Light and Dark without too much trouble.

So far, I'm P187. I'll improve a ton but expect to rank worse by the end, particularly when all the light-mains have run this weekend.

Slashley

10-25-2019, 07:55 AM

Yeah, you say that, but with the ability freeze, some abilities aren't back by turn 12 if I use them turn 1.That ability freeze can only happen once, and only lasts 2t though. Or was it 3t including the casted turn... eh, either way. There's very, very few abilities that would not be ready by turn 12.
So far, I'm P187.For Total, notice that quite a lot of people snuck in runs after maintenance, before the day ticked over. So they have scores for 4 elements compared to your 2, probably. We're not going to have any idea on the rankings until after Sunday, when everyone will have had a chance at every element.

dreamlitz

10-25-2019, 10:36 AM

So far, I'm P187. I'll improve a ton but expect to rank worse by the end, particularly when all the light-mains have run this weekend.

Actually, light's spike dmg isn't that good. They were good for the last dummy 'cos they can burst often and so over 15T, lots of smaller bursts add up to more dmg than bigger but fewer bursts of other elements. This time round, the fast bursting isn't helpful at all.

We're not going to have any idea on the rankings until after Sunday, when everyone will have had a chance at every element.

Yeah, I'm an example of that. I haven't even opened the dummy event yet. Still farming guardians, and gonna try to finish the new raid event first then hopefully do all 6 elements on Sunday :sweat:

Dejnov

10-25-2019, 10:52 AM

Actually, light's spike dmg isn't that good. They were good for the last dummy 'cos they can burst often and so over 15T, lots of smaller bursts add up to more dmg than bigger but fewer bursts of other elements. This time round, the fast bursting isn't helpful at all.

Light has Take, Frey and Metatron. Tons of single turn spike damage within those three Himes.

Dejnov.

dreamlitz

10-25-2019, 11:23 AM

Light has Take, Frey and Metatron. Tons of single turn spike damage within those three Himes.

Other elements have strong nukers/self buffers and stun/rage punishers, too, so I don't see light having any advantages here.

When it comes to team-wide buffs though, light only has Mike AW if I'm not mistaken, and that is very important for that one big burst. It doesn't help that Mike doesn't deal that much dmg herself, unlike say Shiva AW or Svarog AW.

Metatron AW is the only unusual light advantage 'cos of the 4 mil burst cap, but it's hard to make good use of that unless you have a really strong grid.

Slashley

10-25-2019, 12:16 PM

Metatron AW is the only unusual light advantage 'cos of the 4 mil burst cap, but it's hard to make good use of that unless you have a really strong grid.Oh, is that a thing? Countdown zero increases burst cap to 4m?

Last I heard, Metatron's high bursts were a complete mystery and people had no idea how that stuff actually worked.

Alice

10-25-2019, 12:29 PM

Light has Take, Frey and Metatron. Tons of single turn spike damage within those three Himes.

Dejnov.

I doubt light is going to beat water mains this dummy.

Probably the current rank 1 didnt even do his best run for water yet.

Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir. Light sadly has 0 burst streak Eidos.
Water even has access to a lot of nukes too. (Lakshmi, Shiva, Oceanus)

Dejnov

10-25-2019, 12:38 PM

I doubt light is going to beat water mains this dummy.

Probably the current rank 1 didnt even do his best run for water yet.

Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir. Light sadly has 0 burst streak Eidos.
Water even has access to a lot of nukes too. (Lakshmi, Shiva, Oceanus)

I actually agree with you here. I've seen some of the crazy stuff that double Fenrir's can pull off and Light can't equal that for sure. Only saving grace is how many Water mains are there really? Thunder, Light, and Wind seem to be the main elements that people main. It has never been a popular element to main.

Dejnov.

dreamlitz

10-25-2019, 12:40 PM

Oh, is that a thing? Countdown zero increases burst cap to 4m?

Last I heard, Metatron's high bursts were a complete mystery and people had no idea how that stuff actually worked.

I'm not actually nearly strong enough to hit high enough numbers to confirm the following, but what I've been told is that countdown zero has two effects - 1. doubles the burst cap (so if you max out exceed, it's 2x 2 mil = 4 mil cap, at zero exceed it should be 2x 1 mil = 2 mil cap) 2. boosts the burst dmg multiplier, and that boost is outside of the normal 500% cap (I'm not sure what that multiplier actually is, but let's just say it's noticeable, lol.)

EDIT:
Actually, JP wiki suggests that the countdown zero multiplier is 450%. Given that AW himes' base burst multiplier is 5.5x, if you max out the 500% burst multiplier, Meta AW will hit 550%+500%+450% = 15x burst multiplier at countdown zero.

Slashley

10-25-2019, 12:46 PM

--
Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir.--Is it actually possible to reach 2m Burst for all characters with double Fenrir?

For the whaliest of whales, one Rudra/Leviathan and Fenrir, sure. But double Fenrir... man that is low elemental modifier. Even more so with Sieg, so non-PF too?

Alice

10-25-2019, 12:47 PM

I actually agree with you here. I've seen some of the crazy stuff that double Fenrir's can pull off and Light can't equal that for sure. Only saving grace is how many Water mains are there really? Thunder, Light, and Wind seem to be the main elements that people main. It has never been a popular element to main.

Dejnov.

Probably only the current rank 1 Sora is the strongest water main in nutaku?
Though he already pulled off 32m with his fire too.

I think fire is also very popular.

Anyway maybe igt, Sirocco and Kayn can do "some crazy stuff" with double Fenrir too.

Is it actually possible to reach 2m Burst for all characters with double Fenrir?

For the whaliest of whales, one Rudra/Leviathan and Fenrir, sure. But double Fenrir... man that is low elemental modifier. Even more so with Sieg, so non-PF too?

For sure. Otherwise I dont see how the current rank 1 did 33.8m with water and 32.2m with fire.

Water run last year in DMM:
w.ww.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34127760

ArchAngel

10-25-2019, 02:37 PM

Thanks, can you show also the single tab?

Only 4th,ロキ previous dummy battle 13th person
He is now 1#on Fire
13051
13052
13053

No idea how to increase image size

ps:well we non-super-whales can dream about this casual grid ( >ω<)

romoss

10-25-2019, 08:13 PM

Only 4th,ロキ previous dummy battle 13th person
He is now 1#on Fire
13051
13052
13053

No idea how to increase image size

ps:well we non-super-whales can dream about this casual grid ( >ω<)

thanks, I actually meant the single element dmg ranking.

Crow

10-26-2019, 05:54 AM

I think the plan here is to stun her before t9. So enrage in first three turns, t7 ability blocked by phase change, t8-9 stun for one turn, ability blocked by t10 phase change. If you stun even...

Kitty

10-26-2019, 11:04 AM

i didn't realize it was solo turn event... jesus lord forget everythin i said.

AutoCrimson

10-26-2019, 11:09 AM

solo turn?)

nut

10-27-2019, 03:05 AM

DMM's 2nd Guild Combat Competition ranking result for reference
Total

rank : 1 score : 191,066,978 player_name : "chrno"
rank : 2 score : 189,297,821 player_name : "新兵でち"
rank : 3 score : 186,275,782 player_name : "KSD"
rank : 4 score : 183,636,051 player_name : "ロキ"
rank : 5 score : 183,317,816 player_name : "白"
rank : 6 score : 179,108,417 player_name : "thetis"
rank : 7 score : 179,096,997 player_name : "あきとし[パンタスマ]"
rank : 8 score : 178,336,230 player_name : "たく。"
rank : 9 score : 177,306,917 player_name : "brionac"
rank : 10 score : 175,488,380 player_name : "なる"
rank : 11 score : 174,636,136 player_name : "ゆうこ"
rank : 12 score : 173,859,506 player_name : "緑茶カテキン"
rank : 13 score : 173,832,124 player_name : "花菜雞"
rank : 14 score : 171,638,785 player_name : "ゲット（幼体）"
rank : 15 score : 170,288,760 player_name : "Kyonoyk"
rank : 16 score : 170,279,704 player_name : "ねおん"
rank : 17 score : 170,205,420 player_name : "tenpai"
rank : 18 score : 170,138,203 player_name : "ふひと"
rank : 19 score : 169,470,515 player_name : "akisimon"
rank : 20 score : 169,342,452 player_name : "めがえら"
Best (best ranking element is the element of the boss)

rank : 1 score : 35,860,984 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "ロキ"
rank : 2 score : 35,381,027 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "あきとし[パンタスマ]"
rank : 3 score : 35,212,009 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "たく。"
rank : 4 score : 34,556,684 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "chrno"
rank : 5 score : 34,399,172 best ranking element : Wind player_name : "KSD"
rank : 6 score : 34,268,840 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "新兵でち"
rank : 7 score : 34,265,296 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "thetis"
rank : 8 score : 34,181,453 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "なる"
rank : 9 score : 33,919,334 best ranking element : Wind player_name : "白"
rank : 10 score : 33,493,287 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "ゲット（幼体）"
rank : 11 score : 33,109,565 best ranking element : Dark player_name : "緑茶カテキン"
rank : 12 score : 32,972,593 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "紅葉"
rank : 13 score : 32,877,478 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "ポリアネス"
rank : 14 score : 32,643,709 best ranking element : Wind player_name : "ねおん"
rank : 15 score : 32,543,521 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "brionac"
rank : 16 score : 32,427,494 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "ちん◯こハメ太郎"
rank : 17 score : 32,340,058 best ranking element : Fire player_name : "ガンダムついんエックス"
rank : 18 score : 32,284,813 best ranking element : Wind player_name : "花菜雞"
rank : 19 score : 32,245,908 best ranking element : Wind player_name : "ふひと"
rank : 20 score : 32,143,147 best ranking element : Dark player_name : "めがえら"

ArchAngel

10-27-2019, 09:36 AM

Thanks nut!

nut

10-27-2019, 11:20 AM

My Wind vs Wind run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agmAQCrbYiw

Thanks nut!
You're welcome

romoss

10-27-2019, 03:46 PM

Thanks Nut, this is great. That KSD person (ranking 5) is amazing to achieve that amount with fire given the lack of good exceed and vigor weapons.

Slashley

10-27-2019, 05:49 PM

My Wind vs Wind run17k HP Wind team... just what kind of Grid are you running?

nut

10-28-2019, 01:12 AM

17k HP Wind team... just what kind of Grid are you running?

Casual wind hammer with Garuda and Gaia :think:

Slashley

10-28-2019, 02:49 AM

Casual wind hammer with Garuda and Gaia :think:I really don't think that you can just casually get that much in Wind.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, might as well post this I guess.https://i.imgur.com/OjA5xc4.pngI'll update my Fire score next Sunday, turns out one Exceed wasn't enough for Lakshmi. Will probably also run Dark off-element, probably Dark. I think I might be able to improve on my Wind score, but probably won't bother.

qwertyX

10-31-2019, 12:23 PM

dreamlitz

10-31-2019, 03:46 PM

This will be my first dummy event and I hope to get placed 2-2.5k (10k medals), am I better off spending it on soul points now or should I keep them till the next one to get a brick?
I have hercules and morgan unlocked

I would save for eido bricks. Medals is a very expensive currency. Regular soul points are easily acquired from ranking up and events, especially from advents. HSP will be more accessible once UEs come back and there'll be a new shop in April iirc that allows you to buy them - it'll still take a new player at least 6 months to get Shingen if I'm not mistaken, but you'll get all the SP/HSP you'll ever need eventually while you'll probably never have enough eido bricks.

Slashley

10-31-2019, 10:21 PM

I would save for eido bricks. Medals is a very expensive currency. Regular soul points are easily acquired from ranking up and events, especially from advents. HSP will be more accessible once UEs come back and there'll be a new shop in April iirc that allows you to buy them - it'll still take a new player at least 6 months to get Shingen if I'm not mistaken, but you'll get all the SP/HSP you'll ever need eventually while you'll probably never have enough eido bricks.Hmmm.

I kind of want to agree, but on the other hand, new players ARE going to need those HSP. Union Events coming up:
Mid Dec
Early Jan
Late Feb
Mid-April
They're not even monthly. And wasn't HSP gain per Union event nerfed? Are they going to get Shingen from all of those even? New players won't need Shingen for a long time, but they do need her eventually. How else are they going to earn HSP now...? Honestly, the fucking HSP system should be abolished. It was cool for a short amount of time, now it is just retarded gatekeeping for new players.

Anyway, I'd say: hang on to those points. Then you can use them on an Eidolon brick or HSP if you need to get your hands on Shingen faster. Either way, that's a decision that won't really matter to you until some months from now.

Chrestomancy

11-03-2019, 05:26 PM

Still waiting for the missing players to post their scores. I expect tomorrow I’ll see the truth of the ranking board. Still, was nice to be top 200 for a few days.

I think I’m done, 71M with my Thunder team accounting for 17M of that. I could probably get another 10% across the board with some 140% eidolon support, but I see them so rarely, and sometimes mess up the runs anyway. Better to invest time in farming other things, as long as I’m still top 500 tomorrow.

G’luck to the rest of you.

Slashley

11-04-2019, 06:25 AM

Well, on Sunday I improved my total score by 6m still dropped from rank54 to rank61.

Dejnov

11-04-2019, 11:23 AM

I believe the labyrinth events will give you the chance to earn Holy Soul Points. That will be the new way for newcomers to get them (along with mostly subpar SSRs).

Dejnov.

Chrestomancy

11-05-2019, 02:47 AM

Well, on Sunday I improved my total score by 6m still dropped from rank54 to rank61.

I'm now on 202, so the rush of players posting last weekend doesn't seem to have happened. I wonder if I'm just much better at spike damage, or if I've significantly improved compared to everyone else in the last 2 months, or fewer people are taking the game seriously since the first, or if the fact they've not nerfed the rewards for ranks under 500 means people are taking it easy this time? Probably a little of several of those.

Another 41 to go before I'm within 100 of you, Slashey. :-)

Kitty

11-05-2019, 05:15 AM

hhh I guess I fucked up. I joined into the event a week after it came out and didn't realize it was only "solo turn" highest DMG counts.
I AAbed with dark + fire + water teams on the light, fire and wind quest. ...When I went in on Sunday to beat the light one with dark team, it kept fucking up even tho I had like, unlimited tries, I have no patience...
did 66.6M in total hhhhh so that's...like trash compared to a lot of ppl, but whatever... it's not like I ever buy bricks anyway.
could've done a lot more with my thunder team too.. guess I ca try today

edit: did a bit more hhhh... just wish I could do fire/thunder :(

https://i.imgur.com/i2amwNf.png

Moroboshi

11-06-2019, 02:02 PM

This many accounts participated in the second dummy event:
13097

nut

11-06-2019, 08:02 PM

This many accounts participated in the second dummy event:
13097

My account with 1456 got rank 5774.
Meanwhile 1234 in dmm eng version got rank 1712
13098

Superbia

11-06-2019, 08:06 PM

I know several people in my Union took the event easily due to wanting to farm more during half off.

Naruhodo

11-07-2019, 08:56 AM

Main account ranked 675 with 28trillion total score.

Challenged all element using light as the only tactic I can use is to have kushinada eat the third OD and be replaced with michael that can get to 60 burst gauge in 2 turn.

No p2w eido, only have one exceed, luckily I unlocked Shingen using the last tower medal so I with her, I managed to score one eidolon limit breaker this time.

I can use it to limit break my Managarmr when I got her one day.

did 66.6M in total hhhhh so that's...like trash compared to a lot of ppl, but whatever... it's not like I ever buy bricks anyway.
could've done a lot more with my thunder team too.. guess I ca try today

edit: did a bit more hhhh... just wish I could do fire/thunder :(

Heyyyy, there's like 999763 people ranked below you that you just call trash!

Slashley

11-10-2019, 03:57 AM

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners of the second Skill Checker-kun event:
Total:

01. Sirocco 189m [5e,326H] (Drama Club)
02. Sora 188m [6e,309H] (Susurrus)
03. blubber 179m [4e,310H] (Susurrus)
04. BadRiddance 178m [6e,300H] (Susurrus)
05. K 177m [5e,283H] (Susurrus)
06. Kuroi 175m [5e,303H] (Susurrus)
07. igt 169m [7e,314H] (Perfection)
08. Rori Juice 157m [4e,269H] (Isekai)
09. Kayn 153m [3e,250H] (DarkHell)
10. nonsensei 151m [2e,259H] (Drama Club)
11. AsD2038 148m [5e,296H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
12. geoffchu 145m [1e,221H] (Isekai)
13. Creedmoor 143m [6e,301H] (DarkHell)
14. Geidt 138m [4e,298H] (Drama Club)
15. PPT 138m [1e,279H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. SiegeDragon 137m [2e,267H] (Isekai)
17. GibCerbAndFreyBakat 136m [3e,245H] (Axis Mundi)
18. J0hnT1t0r 133m [1e,263H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
19. Bam 133m [6e,335H] (Drama Club)
20. raistlan 131m [5e,293H] (Drama Club)
[e stands in for 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
62. Slashley 110m [1e,256H] (Kingdom AR)

Highest:

01. Sora 35m, water [6e,309H] (Susurrus)
02. Kuroi 34m, water [5e,303H] (Susurrus)
03. blubber 34m, water [4e,310H] (Susurrus)
04. Sirocco 33m, light [5e,326H] (Drama Club)
05. K 33m, light [5e,283H] (Susurrus)
06. BadRiddance 33m, light [6e,300H] (Susurrus)
07. igt 32m, light [7e,314H] (Perfection)
08. Rori Juice 31m, light [4e,269H] (Isekai)
09. Kayn 30m, water [3e,250H] (DarkHell)
10. geoffchu 29m, light [1e,221H] (Isekai)
11. nonsensei 29m, light [2e,259H] (Drama Club)
12. AsD2038 28m, fire [5e,296H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. Bam 28m, water [6e,335H] (Drama Club)
14. idunno 27m, thunder
15. PPT 27m, light [1e,279H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. Geidt 27m, light [4e,298H] (Drama Club)
17. SiegeDragon 26m, light [2e,267H] (Isekai)
18. Div 26m, fire [2e,261H] (Godtamers)
19. Creedmoor 26m, water [6e,301H] (DarkHell)
20. Kalin 26m, thunder [5e,288H] (NooBreaker)
[e stands in for 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
67. Slashley 21m, water [1e,256H] (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

I would have very much liked to give full team lists and everything, but because this game is coded by incompetent monkeys, such simple data is not saved when you do your best run. So, this is all you get. As always, this is just pure statistics for future reference - draw whatever conclusions you wish.

For this one, my interpretation is having a top20 score is basically good enough to just do the rest of the elements off-element. For example, #1 total Sirocco slammed ~30m in any element, so he probably didn't do that. But #3 blubber slammed 34m with his Fire team, and ~28m against other elements. This kinda makes you think it was all done with the same team. Even if blubber didn't, full-Light baka geoffchu certainly did, with his Light team slamming 29m and all the other elements being 23m.

blubbergott

11-10-2019, 07:50 AM

Tbh, most people probably ran very similar setups, just comes down to having the key units and a grid with a lot of vigor / exceed. F.e. think I ran:

Water (vs. Fire, Light, Water, Wind) with 2x Fenrir (1x Fen + 1x Hundo for off ele), Siegfried, Shiva, Lakshmi, Oceanus, Isis (sac), Atum (sac), Ea (BG acc)
Light (vs. Dark) with 2x Fluffy, Solomon + Sieg weapon, Take, Meta, Micha, Isis (sac), Atum (sac), Frey (BG acc)
Wind (vs. Thunder) with 1x Hundo, 1x Kyuki, Solomon + Sieg weapon, Isis (sac), Aza, Neph, Aether, Atum (sac), Arianrod

There are certainly slight variations on all teams that can potentially yield better results (+- 1m or so), but that's the general idea. Stun punishers, nuker, Echo bursts, as long as you can hit the 2m cap on everyone, get as much burst multi as possible.

My thunder's not quite there yet to compete with those scores and dark's unusable for this kind of stuff. Could've prob beaten my wind score with fire, but didn't wanna bother learning yet another strat. The score vs. thunder should've been at least a million higher, as my highest run was without Atum, but I'm an idiot who sold his Kyuki and since refreshing for a Kyuki helper takes approximately half an hour, at some point I gave up on having an optimal run.

Slashley

01-28-2020, 04:19 AM

Oh hey, this event is running again. It's the same boring one we already had (the first one), so people with Michael Awakened are just going to dominate over everyone else.

Thankfully, this is going to be last extremely boring Target Dummy-kun event. Although "can you full burst in 3 turns bro?" is going to be pretty stupid as well, at least there is some point to it.

Yukarichan

01-28-2020, 04:21 AM

They nerfed Dummykun event rewards...i only got 13k medals last event and need to reach top 50 to get 17k medals lol

Slashley

02-02-2020, 06:44 AM

Well then. I had the time to do my manuals today. But first, let me post my AAB damage numbers. Left is the first event (the same one as we have now), and on the right are what I got this time around.Water: 24.8m -> 43m (Andromeda)
Wind: 28m -> 35m (Andromeda)
Fire: 21m -> 32m (Andromeda)
Dark: 29m -> 46m (Hercules)
Thunder: 46m -> 52m (Hercules)
Light: 15m -> 32m (Andromeda)Ho.
Ly.
Shit.
The powercreep is real. Note that in the previous event, all of those were probably Hercules. But my go-to teams for all elements are very much Andromeda now, since that's just what gets you through Rags and Guardians if you don't happen to get whale carries.

All the elements got significant Grid updates in the past months, which explains most of the increases. But also some key Hime have made a huge difference. Water almost doubled in score thanks to Leviathan, Dark thanks to Anubis. My Light was absolutely nothing last event, but now I'm only Lugh/Iris away from having a very strong (though far from ideal) team.

And then manuals:Water: 39.2m -> 91.6m (Shingen(EI)-Vohu-Shiva-Cthulhu-Lakshimi)
Wind: 45.8m -> 67.7m (Shingen(EI)-Cu-Azazel-Cybele-Hastur)
Fire: 51m -> 66m (Shingen(SS)-Uriel-Svarog-Mars-Mammon)
Dark: 38m -> 65.4m (Hercules(SS)-Thanatos-Susanoo-Cherno-Osiris)
Thunder: 63.7m -> 74.8m (Shingen(EI)-Marduk-Baal-Raiko-Nuwa)
Light: 0m -> 52m (Shingen(EI)-Tish-Artemis-Sol-Tsuku)Notice that all of these were once-and-done. Like my Water lost ~1.5m damage since I thought I was on turn14 and didn't use Shiva nukes due to upcoming buffs, but nope, fight ended. If I were to minmax, Thunder could easily have gotten 80m+, but I fucked up with SSR Baal and basically fought with -20% Def for the last four turns. Not to mention that I was leaving out Hime like Perkele and/or Tyr who certainly could burst for far higher.

For my Water team Earring Saraswati came to replace Lakshimi as soon as she killed herself, worked perfectly without even slowing down the FB cycle. Probably should've ran Saraswati from the start - I've said it before and I'll say it again, Vohu-Saraswati synergy is no joke. Vohu was slowing down my FBs after the first one, since her guaranteed triple skill has such an insane CD.

Overall, I did way better than what I expected. Still, I doubt that I'll get anywhere on the score lists - this event is very much a matter of "Hey, who has Managarmr and Michael?" of which I have neither, so hey.
They nerfed Dummykun event rewards...i only got 13k medals last event and need to reach top 50 to get 17k medals lolI think those rewards are still the same as ever? To get 15k Medals in a single event, you need to hit top500. That's 13k awards and 2k from rewards.

You'll just have to sit on those 13k Medals for the next two years, waiting for the top players to quit...

Yukarichan

02-03-2020, 02:18 AM

Its nerfed, before rank 501-1000 can get 13k medals, now only 10k...

Chrestomancy

02-03-2020, 10:59 AM

This was true for the first event. One of the players complained that there were fewer people playing than in the DMM version, so the devs obligingly reduced the rewards. I noticed the rewards were un-nerfed for the 2nd Dummykun battle, but kept quiet because who wants nerfed rewards? As this is a rematch of the 1st, it seems the rewards are still nerfed.

So - score in the top 500, or get below 1 upgrade in medals. I was 504 the first time, not that I'm bitter. I ranked just outside top 200 on the max damage version, but then the competition was less fierce - because they didn't nerf the rewards.

I'm around 450 so far, after 1 run with each team on non-optimised builds and with non-optimised friend's Eidolons. I'm going to have to go back and rerun basically every team to make sure I'm above the cut.

Geo

02-03-2020, 11:00 PM

One of the players complained that there were fewer people playing than in the DMM version, so ...

There is always some nerd to f things for everybody else.

Jessa

02-11-2020, 03:54 AM

Guild Medals 10500

:( So, one needs to go in rank 500 or higher to get 15k+. Thats insane.

Chrestomancy

02-11-2020, 04:53 AM

I just squeaked into the top 500 this time (p477 with 193 million), so better than last. I really suck at Skill-check-kun on total damage. Looking forward to Skill-check-kun on 3-turn damage, which should get me back up to the mid 200's like the 1-turn damage version does (and where the rewards will likely not drop off a cliff at p500 so badly)

Slashley

02-11-2020, 12:53 PM

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the... winners...?Total:

01. Rori Juice 812m [7e,315H] (Isekai)
02. alex 772m [4e,291H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. nonsensei 735m [2e,285H] (Drama Club)
04. geoffchu 732m [1e,245H] (Isekai)
05. AsD2038 671m [6e,320H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. ktcr 651m [1e,233H] (20厘米)
07. Remilia 645m [4e,275H] (Axis Mundi)
08. VERYVOODOO 627m [2e,269H] (Ixion)
09. demonizedtxxx 604m [4e,265H] (Weeb wanks)
10. Xellosp 577m [2e,297H] (=Akatsuki=)
11. Berwayer 564m [2e,253H] (Isekai)
12. dreamlitz 563m [3e,293H] (Nonsense)
13. Scorpiossss 558m [3e,282H] (Isekai)
14. Ken 555m [6e,356H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
15. Loma 535m [3e,275H] (Weeb Wanks)
16. Umarekawatta Senshi 530m [2e,276H] (Isekai)
17. AXSXCE 526m [5e,320H] (RedPhantom)
18. div 525m [3e,271H] (Khaos)
19. FlyingPengy 511m [5e,278H] (DarkHell)
20. Lovemachine 493m [6e,317H] (Axis Mundi)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
75. Slashley 418m [3e,286H] (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. Rori Juice 160m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
02. FlyingPengy 158m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (DarkHell)
03. alex 153m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. nonsensei 150m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Drama Club)
05. geoffchu 147m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Artemis (Isekai)
06. ktcr 132m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (20厘米)
07. VERYVOODOO 132m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Ixion)
08. demonizedtxxx 130m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Weeb Wanks)
09. AsD2038 130m, fire [160e] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
10. blablablub 130m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
11. Xellosp 128m, light [G] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
12. Remilia 126m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Axis Mundi)
13. Geidt 124m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Drama Club)
14. dreamlitz 122m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Nonsense)
15. Berwayer 121m, light [G] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
16. GibCerbAndFreyBakat 115m, fire [G] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Mammon (Drama Club)
17. Loma 111m, fire [160e] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (Weeb Wanks)
18. Madnug 108m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
19. TrueRayS 108m, wind [120e] Shingen-Cybele-Aether-Nephtys-Azazel (Isekai)
20. Scorpiossss 108m, thunder [120e] Shingen-Jupiter-Baal-Marduk-Nuwa (Isekai)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
72. Slashley 91m, water [160e] Shingen-Vohu-Shiva-Cthulhu-Lakshimi (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

It kinda feels pointless to list total Hime count, since just everyone on the list just went with the standard Light team and completed all elements with that.

This is the first event which saves the team used. However, note that the Hime ordering is not correct. Michael is not in the second slot in all those teams, okay? It is probably ordered by Hime ID or something. Also, somebody claimed that it might not save the team you got the best score with but rather what you used last, but... unable to confirm.

Oh, and, our Rankings are bugged. They didn't update for like a week or so? So uh, here is the ACTUAL list as far as I know it:Total:

01. Rori Juice 839m [7e,315H] (Isekai)
02. ???
03. FlyingPengy 787m [5e,278H] (DarkHell)
04. alex 772m [4e,291H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
05. nonsensei 735m [2e,285H] (Drama Club)
06. geoffchu 732m [1e,245H] (Isekai)
07. ???
08. AsD2038 671m [6e,320H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
09. ktcr 662m [1e,233H] (20厘米)
10. Remilia 645m [4e,275H] (Axis Mundi)
11. VERYVOODOO 644m [2e,269H] (Ixion)
12. ???
13. demonizedtxxx 640m [4e,265H] (Weeb wanks)
14. ???
15. Berwayer 614m [2e,253H] (Isekai)
16. ???
17. ???
18. blablablub 590m [5e,309H] (Isekai)
19. ???
20. Xellosp 577m [2e,297H] (=Akatsuki=)
...
23. GibCerbAndFreyBakat 567m [3e,274H] (Drama Club)
24. dreamlitz 563m [3e,293H] (Nonsense)
25. Umarekawatta Senshi 563m [2e,276H] (Isekai)
26. Scorpiossss 563m [3e,282H] (Isekai)
...
28. Ken 555m [6e,356H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
33. Loma 535m [3e,275H] (Weeb Wanks)
34. div 531m [3e,271H] (Khaos)
...
36. AXSXCE 526m [5e,320H] (RedPhantom)
37. Lovemachine 515m [6e,317H] (Axis Mundi)
...
40. Madnug 500m [6e,362H] (=Akatsuki=)
...
51. TrueRayS 468m [1e,255H] (Isekai)

[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
75. Slashley 418m [3e,286H] (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. ???
02. Rori Juice 162m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
03. FlyingPengy 162m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (DarkHell)
04. alex 153m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
05. Geidt 151m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Drama Club)
06. nonsensei 150m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Drama Club)
07. geoffchu 147m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Artemis (Isekai)
08. ktcr 143m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (20厘米)
09. ???
10. VERYVOODOO 133m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Ixion)
11. demonizedtxxx 131m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Weeb Wanks)
12. AsD2038 130m, fire [160e] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. blablablub 130m, light [115e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
14. Berwayer 128m, light [G] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
15. Xellosp 128m, light [G] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
16. ???
17. Remilia 126m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Axis Mundi)
18. ???
19. dreamlitz 122m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Nonsense)
20. ???
...
24. GibCerbAndFreyBakat 116m, fire [G] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Mammon (Drama Club)
...
26. Loma 111m, fire [160e] Shingen-Amon-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (Weeb Wanks)
...
28. Scorpiossss 109m, thunder [120e] Shingen-Jupiter-Baal-Marduk-Nuwa (Isekai)
29. Madnug 108m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
30. TrueRayS 108m, wind [120e] Shingen-Cybele-Aether-Nephtys-Azazel (Isekai)
31. Lovemachine 108m, light [120e] Shingen-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Axis Mundi)
...
34. Umarekawatta Senshi 107m, thunder [G] Shingen-Tyr-Baal-Aphrodite-Marduk (Isekai)
...
39. div 106m, thunder [120e] Shingen-Mammon-Baal-Marduk-Raiko (Khaos)
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52. AXSXCE 100m, thunder [G] Shingen-Tyr-Baal-Aphrodite-Marduk (RedPhantom)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
72. Slashley 91m, water [160e] Shingen-Vohu-Shiva-Cthulhu-Lakshimi (Kingdom AR)So uh, as you can see, it's a bit of a mess. We don't really know who got the highest damage or how much that damage was.

steklovskii

02-11-2020, 01:47 PM

13555 Clopikoko got highest damage. ID 8282172

Jessa

02-21-2020, 04:48 AM

No big rewards' cutdown for ranks < 500, good!

Slashley

02-24-2020, 02:31 AM

th3 fr4gil3

02-24-2020, 03:09 PM

https://i.imgur.com/9wBs6Q5.pngAll done with Thunder. Turns out that despite using Phul, my Water with 160% Levi can't reach my Thunder damage even against Fire.

I should probably go and significantly improve that Water score, since that one was done with zero deaths. Bringing Tyr and Perkele would explode the score. Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zinso5pWiBY

Jesus H Christ! 300k normal attacks?!
seriously what's your weapon grid look like? i was happy when i broke 100k and my grid is full FLB apart from soul weapon.

Dejnov

02-24-2020, 05:18 PM

Jesus H Christ! 300k normal attacks?!
seriously what's your weapon grid look like? i was happy when i broke 100k and my grid is full FLB apart from soul weapon.

Nuwa has 2 turn Rampage... perfect for this dummy...

Dejnov.

Slashley

02-24-2020, 10:36 PM

Jesus H Christ! 300k normal attacks?!
seriously what's your weapon grid look like? i was happy when i broke 100k and my grid is full FLB apart from soul weapon.Oh, you know, the usual. Nothing special.https://i.imgur.com/3WwyYtK.pngJust 15 bricks spent.
In case you don't know, Marduk Hammer is Assault(+)/HP(+)/Exceed, Raiko Hammers are Assault(++)/Pride, Mammon Guns are Assault(++)/HP/Vigor. I really, really, REALLY need to get my hands on another Marduk Hammer...Nuwa's Berserk gets a lot damage in, but if I do a proper run, I probably need to not use that. It would probably be more ideal to get Marduk to burst twice, and it makes Shingen less RNG-y (only needs 3 hits in two turns instead of 4). Not using Berserk is a big damage loss from two turns, though.

Chrestomancy

02-25-2020, 04:20 AM

Nice looking grid, Slashey! I was considering hammers, partly because Marduk & Thor hammer, but also because I picked up the phantom hammer. I'm going lance now instead, hoping that I can buy the phantom lance when that bit of content is released, but hammers is probably next.

I'm less of a fan of this 3-turn skill check than the last two. Not because I'm doing badly - I'll be top 200 probably by the end - but because it's an incredible grind. It's possible for me to get a full burst on every single element. But each requires the right set of random events to happen. So far, I'm on zero full bursts. The only teams I have that can easily soak the damage are water and thunder, but in each case I can't burst fast enough unless it's my front two Hime who are doing the soaking - or, I can put faster-bursting hime in the mix, but then I need to get lucky with who skill-check-kun targets. Light I've got Atum, who can set a revival, but I need skill-check-kun to target whoever I've set to revive on one of the two hits. For wind, I need dizzy to work once out of two rounds, and of course it needs to land one of the 4 times I use it. Every element is like this.

I don't mind spending a while perfecting a grid for a challenge - that's fun. But when I'm certain I can't improve it any further, spending hours just re-running the same fight until the stars are right is not.

Jessa

02-25-2020, 06:39 AM

Jesus H Christ! 300k normal attacks?!
seriously what's your weapon grid look like? i was happy when i broke 100k and my grid is full FLB apart from soul weapon.

Hmmm, I'm really not sure, but my girls with basically not even full SLd grind, not to mention FLBd can hit up to 80r per normal hit already? and yours full FLB only 100k? :think: What's problem with mine, that's that i haven't so much hp, so no burst to me :(

As a side question, what is the theme/whatever that is you running, Slash? Mine nutaku's KH looks different.

Oh, and btw, for phathom weapons, second skill which activates with 6 or more weapons of the same type, does that includes phathom weapon itself (so, 5 weps same type + phathom weapon)?

Slashley

02-25-2020, 08:45 AM

I don't mind spending a while perfecting a grid for a challenge - that's fun. But when I'm certain I can't improve it any further, spending hours just re-running the same fight until the stars are right is not.Tell me about it. Plus having to redo Accessories is total ass. Since Earrings > Tiara for a mere 2 turn fight.

Still, I do like this more than the "total damage done in 15-turns" ones. There is more than one exact solution to this one. Well, I mean, I guess technically there is only one Wind team which is the "correct" solution, but nobody is going to bother with that setup I guess. Due to it working is like one in a million.
Hmmm, I'm really not sure, but my girls with basically not even full SLd grind, not to mention FLBd can hit up to 80r per normal hit already? and yours full FLB only 100k? :think: What's problem with mine, that's that i haven't so much hp, so no burst to me :(Did you have a P2W Eidolon? That makes a huge difference.
As a side question, what is the theme/whatever that is you running, Slash? Mine nutaku's KH looks different.The normal client stopped working for ages ago. So I use the DMM mobile direct link (https://cf.r.kamihimeproject.dmmgames.com/). It used to be WAY better than the normal client in performance and such, but over the past year, the normal client has improved massively. So really, it doesn't matter which one you use I think.

If you are going to use the DMM direct link, please notice that you first need to login to the normal client for the Kamihime cookie. Only then will the mobile client work.
Oh, and btw, for phathom weapons, second skill which activates with 6 or more weapons of the same type, does that includes phathom weapon itself (so, 5 weps same type + phathom weapon)?Yes. As you can see in my Grid, 5+1 is all that is required. To keep easy track, I keep that weapon type filling up either the first two or the last two rows.

AutoCrimson

02-25-2020, 09:46 AM

Plus having to redo Accessories is total ass. Since Earrings > Tiara for a mere 2 turn fight.
God, there still are ppl, who strive for top. Let Your mercy flow with them

dreamlitz

02-25-2020, 10:17 AM

But each requires the right set of random events to happen.

There actually are low RNG and even zero RNG builds - at the cost of some dmg potential of course. I couldn't figure out a way to run the meta light build for this dummy without having to RNG DATA on one or more himes (and doing it with earrings instead of tiaras.) I ended up going with a build that guarantees the planned burst as long as the right himes are killed off, so it's basically a 1/6 chance of working. Finished all 6 elements with around 40 tries-ish.

I also experimented with a couple of zero RNG builds - just FB on T1 and call it a day :squint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0a__N28VM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NWJOiXIQQ

Tell me about it. Plus having to redo Accessories is total ass. Since Earrings > Tiara for a mere 2 turn fight.

This was enough motivation for me to NOT try for high RNG builds :sweat:

Also need time to farm Ophiel before the rush is over, she looks like a total pain to do later.

Slashley

02-25-2020, 10:58 AM

This was enough motivation for me to NOT try for high RNG builds :sweat:So you say, but you're currently rank#6 in Best and #4 in Total.

Where is the video of a no-RNG run of that then.

dreamlitz

02-25-2020, 12:32 PM

So you say, but you're currently rank#6 in Best and #4 in Total.

It can only go down from here though... Last dummy I was top 20 for the first week and fell outside top 20 by the end of it, too (although it looked like i was top 20 the whole time 'cos the rankings weren't updating correctly.)

Where is the video of a no-RNG run of that then.

It's low RNG not no RNG for my real runs, and I'm still debating if I should post the video of my run or not.

Anyway, I did 2B-2B-FB, whereas I'm pretty sure the top rankers for light all did 2B-3B-FB (I actually gave that a few tries for on-element but couldn't get it to work.)

Slashley

02-25-2020, 12:54 PM

-- I'm still debating if I should post the video of my run or not.--Yes you should.

dreamlitz

02-25-2020, 08:52 PM

Alright, here it is. I didn't record off-element runs, but it's exactly the same build. And no salt please, dun make me regret posting the video...

https://youtu.be/6WoDl7pAA_Y

As long as dummy kills Arthur then kills Tish (should be 1/6 chance of happening 'cos 1/3 for first kill, 1/2 for second kill)), I get the guaranteed 2B-2B-FB. Full explanation is in the video description for those that like walls of text.

Slashley

02-26-2020, 02:49 AM

Holy shit that damage is insane. You're just casually slamming 2m bursts, don't need no PF buffs or nuffin'

What I don't understand is this:
As long as dummy kills Arthur then kills Tish (should be 1/6 chance of happening 'cos 1/3 for first kill, 1/2 for second kill)), --... since no type of Stealth and similar works on this dummy, what on earth makes those chances to high? Shouldn't it be more like 1/5 and 1/5-ish?

dreamlitz

02-26-2020, 10:25 AM

Holy shit that damage is insane. You're just casually slamming 2m bursts, don't need no PF buffs or nuffin'

I actually dun burst that hard in actual raids, 'cos I prefer using high hp build so I can AAB off-element. But for this dummy, since I'm actually trying to get himes killed off, the hp isn't helpful, so I just stuffed my grid with more exceed than usual.

What I don't understand is this:... since no type of Stealth and similar works on this dummy, what on earth makes those chances to high? Shouldn't it be more like 1/5 and 1/5-ish?

The first attack only targets the front row, so getting Arthur killed off is 1/3 chance as there're only 3 himes in front; second attack only targets the back row, so getting Tish killed is 1/2 chance. Assuming they are independent, I just multiplied the two probabilities to get 1/6 chance. I got all 6 elements done in roughly 40 tries, so, that's roughly consistent with the 1/6 estimate? RNG can decide to mess with you though, so someone else that tries this might end up with a lot more or a lot less attempts, no refunds if others try it and it didn't perform to expectations...

Dejnov

02-26-2020, 12:01 PM

Slashley

02-26-2020, 12:37 PM

I actually dun burst that hard in actual raids, 'cos I prefer using high hp build so I can AAB off-element. But for this dummy, since I'm actually trying to get himes killed off, the hp isn't helpful, so I just stuffed my grid with more exceed than usual.Normal people don't really have the luxury of deciding what they use.

I have a big problem that I simply can't get my Hime killed when on-element. Even after doing the only replacement that I can (Phul Hammer -> Jormungand Hammer) if I use Nidhoggr or B frame, I simply can't get oneshot anymore. Fuck. That kinda locks me into using SSR Baal for -50% Def...
The first attack only targets the front row, so getting Arthur killed off is 1/3 chance as there're only 3 himes in front; second attack only targets the back row, so getting Tish killed is 1/2 chance.... that's how it works? That would've been nice to know before. That would explain why I've never, ever had an attack hit the same Hime twice.

Jessa

02-26-2020, 01:11 PM

Also, dummy can miss an attack. Saw it few times on Sati, she seems like to often evade attacks btw.

Slashley

02-26-2020, 01:43 PM

Also, dummy can miss an attack. Saw it few times on Sati, she seems like to often evade attacks btw.I think that this Skill Checker-kun has a special attack so Blind doesn't work.

However, Immune or Evasion works. Sati has 2t Immune in her second ability, so that's what you're seeing.

Jessa

02-26-2020, 02:05 PM

Oh lol, her second skill gives her nullify i always though for some reason that this gives her attack buff instead (and it's on > 65 lvl).
Another reason for her to be a really good sr light nuker, until you get your hands on some good ssrs.

Chrestomancy

02-27-2020, 05:12 AM

The first attack only targets the front row, so getting Arthur killed off is 1/3 chance as there're only 3 himes in front; second attack only targets the back row, so getting Tish killed is 1/2 chance.

<sob> If only I'd known that earlier. You'd think I'd have worked it out over the last 100 or so battles, but hey. At least I now know how to set up my team to maximise my chances.

Slashley

03-01-2020, 06:27 PM

Well, 1/3, 1/2 and 1/2 all in one was utter hell and took me like 50 tries, but got it:
https://youtu.be/Q86dLCHGJScHere is a "safe" version, which was 2/3 and 1/2:
https://youtu.be/S-3goaM0P_QAnd the "safe" version in off-element:
https://youtu.be/PSvNlYYs2TY

And finally, here is the new scores done with the "safe" version in off-element and the risky version against Water:https://i.imgur.com/Wy16q8W.pngThat's #20 in Best right now and #15 Total. But, I'm not the only person running today, so I expect to drop out of top30.

Jessa

03-01-2020, 11:49 PM

Oof effort :(

Good work though, I assume?..

Slashley

03-07-2020, 10:39 AM

So, the 4th Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Total:

01. Rori Juice 222m [7e,323H] (Isekai)
02. Geidt 215m [5e,328H] (Drama Club)
03. geoffchu 208m [1e,258H] (Isekai)
04. J0hnT1t0r 204m [4e,311H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
05. Scorpiossss 203m [3e,286H] (Isekai)
06. ktcr 202m [2e,242H] (20厘米 (20cm))
07. nonsensei 201m [2e,289H] (Drama Club)
08. dreamlitz 196m [3e,300H] (Nonsense)
09. AXSXCE 193m [5e,327H] (RedPhantom)
10. Umarekawatta Senshi 192m [3e,280H] (Isekai)
11. msn06s 186m [5e,329H] (Isekai)
12. Berwayer 185m [2e,260H] (Isekai)
13. Kalin 182m [6e,321H] (Weeb Wanks)
14. demonizedtxxx 178m [4e,273H] (Weeb Wanks)
15. div 176m [5e,283H] (Khaos)
16. AsD2038 173m [6e,328H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
17. VERYVOODOO 169m [2e,280H] (Ixion)
18. blablablub 165m [5e,315H] (Isekai)
19. Kayn 164m [4e,266H] (QuitHell)
20. From Far Future 163m [6e,327H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
24. Slashley 153m [3e,293H] (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. Rori Juice 42m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Lugh (Isekai)
02. Geidt 41m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Lugh (Drama Club)
03. geoffchu 41m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Lugh (Isekai)
04. J0hnT1t0r 40m, Thunder [?c] Shingen-Jupiter-Baal-Justitia-Marduk (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
05. msn06s 40m, Thunder [?c] Shingen-Baal-Justitia-Marduk-Perkele (Isekai)
06. nonsensei 39m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Lugh (Drama Club)
07. ktcr 39m, Light [120e] Arthur-Tish-Frey-Metatron-Lugh (20厘米 (20cm))
08. Scorpiossss 39m, Thunder [120e] Shingen-Baal-Marduk-Perkele-Perkunas (Isekai)
09. Berwayer 38m, Light [G] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Lugh-Tyr (Isekai)
10. FlyingPengy 38m, Light [120e] Arthur-Vishnu-Tish-Lugh-Tyr (DarkHell)
11. AXSCCE 38m, Thunder [120e] Shingen-Baal-Justitia-Marduk-Perkele (RedPhantom)
12. Umarekawatta Senshi 37m, Thunder [G] Shingen-Jupiter-Baal-Justitia-Marduk (Isekai)
13. dreamlitz 36m, Light [120e] Arthur-Tish-Michael-Metatron-Lugh (Nonsense)
14. div 36m, Thunder [120e] Shingen-Baal-Justitia-Marduk-Perkele (Khaos)
15. demonizedtxxx 35m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Michael-Lugh (Weeb Wanks)
16. Kalin 34m, Thunder [160e] Shingen-Baal-Justitia-Marduk-Raiko (Weeb Wanks)
17. bedevil 34m, Thunder [G] Shingen-Baal-Aphrodite-Justitia-Marduk (Susurrus)
18. VERYVOODOO 33m, Light [120e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Michael-Lugh (Ixion)
19. blablablub 33m, Light [115e] Arthur-Artemis-Tish-Michael-Lugh (Isekai)
20. AsD2038 32m, Fire [?c] Shingen-Vahagn-Haruhi-Raiko (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian, ?c means they used gacha burst stream Eidolon but it is covered with a P2W Eidolon.] For reference:
25. Slashley 32m, Thunder [G] Shingen-Marduk-Baal-Nuwa-Raiko(-Perkele-Tyr) (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

I'm very surprised by the variety in Best, honestly. I thought it would be one go-to build, and if you didn't have it you're fucked. But we're seeing 11 Light, 8 Thunder and 1 Fire team. Now, obviously there is a lot of winners for each element, but we have one person who ran Vishnu, one person who ran Perkunas, a couple who ran SR Tyr. A huge shame how I can't see the back-up Hime, since they were VERY important in this event. Oh, and Eidolon side in Thunder we have Phuls, Niddhoggr, Kirins and Girimehkalas. Light had one Hagith too. That surprised me as well, I was sure it'd be just pure Niddhoggrs and Managarms.

I wish there was lots of videos posted for all these slightly different builds. You put RAIKO in a FIRE team? I mean sure, she probably got blasted on turn1, but still.

Slashley

04-23-2020, 12:19 AM

Next Skill Checker-kun event has been announced. It should be most damage in a single turn again. This time though, it feels kinda pointless since the only that matters is that you've managed grind Medea (T4 Solomon) by the last Sunday of the event. If it wasn't for that, this could be fun times again...

Slashley

05-03-2020, 09:24 AM

Double postan'

So, since nobody has said a single damn thing about this Skill Checker-kun, let's talk about it. There are two gimmicks to this one.

One, you get hurt by a set % of your max HP every turn, which Rage being a higher %. This means that Vigor is mostly out of the picture. In theory you could run zero Defender weapons and then just heal up, but... since you can safely drop down to next to no HP, why bother with Vigor when you can just use a Pride Grid?

Two, every single turn the boss buffs up 5% Def. And as it turns out - something that I didn't even know before this - is that -50% Def isn't the cap. The cap is to drop an enemy TO -50%. So, if you're Full Bursting on turn 8 for your Kaiser, the boss will have buffed up 35% more Def, so you need to bring -85% Def to reach -50% Def. This makes debuffs far more important than what they are usually. Also, this means that if one is to minmax, you bring debuffers and kill them off (usually with Zeal from Devil Accessory set). This gives you access to at least 40% more Def reduction, or -50% if you have access to Nefertem.

Here is my run:
https://youtu.be/vEKdMVEvmlgHonestly? I could go for higher. For example, killing off Nuwa for Perkele would be an easy ~700k more damage. Killing off Mammon would get me Marduk, who could then buff up some Atk as well as do an extra ~1m due to Fortress echo burst... though, due to Mammon's nukes, it's possible that would be about +-0 exchange. In addition Baal and Tyr who usually aren't in my team are just using pure random SSR Accessories instead of the good shit, because who cares. Dat Ancient bonus on Tyr, 10/10 minmaxing.

But again... why bother with all the minmaxing when people who have unlocked Medea are just going to dominate? I'm currently sitting at #9 for Best and #10 in Total, but looooots of people are going to just run Medea today and I'll drop down anything between 20-50 slots. Or a 100, if Nutaku has that many people with wide open wallets.

I am going to miss interesting Skill Checker-kun events, though. For the next year, they're all "total damage done", with the sixth one being five turns and the rest 10+ turns. And you know what that means - the only thing that matters is that you have Managarm and Awakened Michael. How very interesting!

Jessa

05-08-2020, 09:31 AM

So, uh, Medea everywhere (almost).

Chrestomancy

05-08-2020, 12:11 PM

So, uh, Medea everywhere (almost).

Not down my end of the score table!

I put in a set of scores first weekend around 10m per, with 15m on my best. I then made a couple of small improvements on Monday to keep above the line, landing 310 in the end. I could have done better, but the prize difference was tiny so not worth it. Good going to anybody who got Medea by the end, though, without burning 9800 jewels to do it. I’m gradually shuffling towards a Medea, but won’t get there this month. Pages are just too infrequent. I could have done more prep though, so only myself to blame. Have to say, the grind is beginning to get me down. It almost feels the devs want us to go whale, or give up. I may eventually take the hint at this rate.

Slashley

05-09-2020, 05:19 AM

So, 5th Skill Checker-kun has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Total:

01. Rori Juice 206m [7e,342H] Medea (Isekai)
02. Umarekawatta Senshi 178m [4e,300H] Medea (Isekai)
03. nonsensei 178m [1e,301H] Medea (Drama Club)
04. dreamlitz 173m [3e,312H] Medea (Nonsense)
05. SiegeDragon 170m [7e,322H] Medea (Isekai)
06. geoffchu 167m [1e,273H] Medea (Isekai)
07. Deaah 157m [5e,264H] Medea (Khaos)
08. Heil Machi 155m [5e,300H] Medea (DarkHell)
09. Scorpiossss 153m [4e,303H] Medea (Isekai)
10. 666 143m [4e,312H] Medea (=Akatsuki=)
11. Arrow 143m [7e,324H] Medea (Gacha)
12. ??? (VERYVOODOO? Self-proclaimed, don't believe his lies!)
13. Minerva 142m [4e,312H] Medea (Drama Club)
14. UltraMegaGuy 140m [4e,324H] Medea (Terminus)
15. vinceb68 140m [4e,326H] Medea (Gacha)
16. Loma 139m [5e,297H] Medea (Weeb Wanks)
17. Caldernaji 139m [5e,252H] Shingen (DarkHell)
18. Xellosp 137m [4e,311H] Medea (=Akatsuki=)
19. Bigglack 135m [9e,327H] Medea (Drama Club)
20. ???
21. AsD2038 132m [6e,338H] Medea (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
22. SwampyKong 132m [5e,339H] Medea (Terminus)
23. mlw61520 131m [4e,324H] Medea (Axis Mundi)
...
27. Little Hsien 129m [5e,261H] Sieg (WindSoughs)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
30. Slashley 125m [5e,306H] Medea (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. Rori Juice 39m, Wind [Kyuki] Medea-Aether-Lugh-Atum-Nefertem (Isekai)
02. dreamlitz 33m, Light [120e] Medea-Atum-Artemis-Iris-Nuwa (Nonsense)
03. Umarekawatta Senshi 33m, Thunder [?*Giri] Medea-Thor-Baal-Aether-Lugh (Isekai)
04. Nonsensei 33m, Light [120e] Medea-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Iris (Drama Club)
05. geoffchu 33m, Light [120e] Medea-Artemis-Tish-Metatron-Iris (Isekai)
06. SiegeDragon 32m, Water [160e] Medea-Nike-Lakshmi-Shiva-Nefertem (Isekai)
07. Heil Machi 30m, Thunder [120e] Medea-Tyr-Mammon-Baal-Samael (DarkHell)
08. Deaah 30m, Water [120e] Medea-Artemis-Laskshmi-Nuwa-Cthulhu (Khaos)
09. mlw61520 30m, Dark [Medusa] Medea-Tish-Agalia-Thanatos-Ishtar (Axis Mundi)
10. Arrow 29m, Thunder [120e] Medea-Tyr-Mammon-Baal-Nuwa (Gacha) (team might not be accurate)
11. Bigglack 29m, Water [120e] Medea-Nike-Vohu-Shiva-Cthulhu (Drama Club)
12. Scorpiossss 28m, Thunder [120e] Medea-Thor-Mammon-Baal-Aphrodite (Isekai)
13. Minerva 28m, Water [GE] Medea-Nike-Vohu-Cthulhu-Diana (Drama Club)
14. Xellosp 27m, Light [GE] Medea-Artemis-Tish-Take-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
15. Caldernaji 27m, Water [160e] Shingen-Cybele-Artemis-Lakshmi-Cthulhu (DarkHell)
16. Loma 27m, Fire [160e] Medea-Ra-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (Weeb Wanks)
17. UltraMegaGuy 27m, Thunder [120e] Medea-Thor-Tyr-Lugh-Nefertem (Terminus)
18. 666 27m, Light [120e] Medea-Atum-Artemis-Lugh-Iris (=Akatsuki=)
19. Little Hsien 27m, Wind [140e] Sieg-Hastur-Azazel-Nefertem-Thanatos (WindSoughs)
20. vinceb68 27m, Light [Kyuki] Medea-Artemis-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Gacha)
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23. AsD2038 26m, Fire [160e] Medea-Sol-Acala-Vahagn-Frey (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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26. SwampyKong 26m, Fire [160e] Medea-Sol-Vahagn-Frey-Haruhi (Terminus)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
24. Slashley 26m, Thunder [2*Giri] Shingen-Tyr-Mammon-Baal-Nuwa (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

Wow, there's... actually quite a lot I want to say. I guess first off, congrats to Calder for being the stronkest Shingen on the server! Second, the Nutaku original bug of not properly updated lists strikes again. Third, is this the first time we see DARK up there in the rankings?!?

I bolded the off-element debuffer sacrifices. Unsurprisingly Nefertem was all over the place, but there was plenty of other Hime as well! Which I always find impressive. Sadly, we don't know what Hime replaced these ones for the full burst, but Hime with more debuffs and/or high burst gain is a likely bet.

In addition, teams were VERY varied. As expected, lots of debuff Hime are showing up in their own elements, but still, we had like almost NO two same teams? Things are always way more interesting when there is more than one correct team. Sadly, the next Skill Checker-kun will be 5 turns (which will probably mean one correct team) and ever after it'll be 10+ turns. Which means... Managarm+Michael or get out. Wow, so very interesting. Anyway, a large reason why we're having such varied elements and teams here is mostly due to Medea. Since people are pretty much guaranteed to have Medea only for one element, this kinda forces them into playing that one element for this event. Well, technically you CAN use Medea without her Soul weapon since the AoE effect of it doesn't help here, but you wouldn't want to miss out on 40% elemental, would you...?

All in all, a pretty good Skill Checker-kun event if you ask me. It would've been better if Medea hadn't been around for it I think, but oh well. Good enough!
So, uh, Medea everywhere (almost).I did say that Medea would dominate. It turns out getting 50x+ attack damage in a single turn just from your Soul in a competition of one turn damage is preeeeeetty gooooood.

Slashley

06-24-2020, 12:36 PM

New Skill Checker-kun event is live.

This time, the gimmick is that he is nigh-debuff immune. You have five turns. He only does two things:
1. If you use all four color abilities in a single turn, AoE damage + self-def -50 (1 turn, guaranteed) + self-atk+ buff (small)
2. Otherwise, AoE damage + self-cleanse all debuffs and self-atk+ buff (large)
That's a fairly interesting setup that, in theory, allows for lots of gimmicks if you can think them over. Sadly, things like usually get utterly dominated by one single thing.

To my understanding from DMM, this time around, that one single thing is Wind Atum + Medea combo. Now, Wind Atum by herself upgrading Medea's ability damage from... ~7,9m to ~11,8m (rough estimates) is fairly substantial, but the real treat here is Medea's AoE abi-1 spam. So here is roughly how shit works:
Turn 1: Use abilities preferably for +100 burst or near, use CD-1 from Medea, reset, CD-1, (Medea CD now 8) Wind Atum's -3 CD on Medea (Medea CD now 5), full burst (Medea CD now 4)
Turn 2: (Medea CD now 3)
Turn 3: (Medea CD now 2)
Turn 4: (Medea CD now 1)
Turn 5: Use CD-1 from Medea, reset, CD-1. This allows you to use all abilities which have a CD of 8. Use these abilities again to reach another full burst.

Now, either I've misunderstood this, or there are a couple of flaws to this. The biggest one being that the boss will only be debuffed on turn 2. But hey, like all DMM tactics, they've made exclusively for people who have full same-element Kaiser Grids and perfect Hime FLB Grids. You know, stuff 100% unrealistic to anyone who didn't take a small loan of one million dollars from their dad for a gacha game. But yeah, this tactic should work great when you casually reach burst damage caps even without any debuffs.

I have no idea what is going to be a good tactic for us mere mortals. I guess the basic "lol Michael Awakened" will do just fine. Too bad I don't have Michael or Wind Atum... I wonder if I can get to top50?

Oh, and as a side note, after this Skill Checker-kun I believe all future events will be on-element only. While you technically can do them off-element too, Skill Checker-kuns will have strong, passive damage cuts against all but elemental weakness.

Wolfheinirich

06-24-2020, 04:39 PM

Forgive me if I sound overly dumb, but how does one do a full burst on turn 1?
Wind Atum has -3 CD? I'll just pretend I didn't know this.
I gave it my best short with my Fire and Wind Medea team, hopefully I'd get somewhat decent reward out of this.

Slashley

06-24-2020, 11:29 PM

Forgive me if I sound overly dumb, but how does one do a full burst on turn 1?It doesn't need to be turn 1, but it needs to be fairly fast. Bring lots of team-wide +burst skills. For example, Asherah [8], Michael [7] and SSR Amon [7] have teamwide +20 skills which you can use twice thanks to Medea spam. Also reminder that you can bring Asherah Awakened in backrow to start the entire team with +20.

Slashley

06-26-2020, 09:57 AM

Double postan'

Not sure if I got that wrong, or if that was changed, but it doesn't look like Asherah Awakened gives you +20 burst from backrow now.

Wolfheinirich

06-26-2020, 03:03 PM

It doesn't need to be turn 1, but it needs to be fairly fast. Bring lots of team-wide +burst skills. For example, Asherah [8], Michael [7] and SSR Amon [7] have teamwide +20 skills which you can use twice thanks to Medea spam. Also reminder that you can bring Asherah Awakened in backrow to start the entire team with +20.

The one thing that is going for me is that I do have plenty of hime to choose from but having said that, are you suggesting a rainbow team is viable here? Otherwise, I am only going to be able to do some setup and trigger the def down on turn 4 and do a FB on turn 5.

Slashley

06-26-2020, 04:44 PM

The one thing that is going for me is that I do have plenty of hime to choose from but having said that, are you suggesting a rainbow team is viable here? Otherwise, I am only going to be able to do some setup and trigger the def down on turn 4 and do a FB on turn 5.If I had a solid solution, I would tell you. You'll need at least two very strong Full Bursts to get any kind of decent score, but exactly you can get two off is... beyond me. Well, I guess it's not that bad for perfect Light teams, but.

Chrestomancy

06-29-2020, 04:01 AM

Hmm. Didn't notice the self-debuff thing, I'm going to have to re-run everything I guess.

One-run on each element using a moderately-tailored team gets me 10M per, plus 13.5M for Water and Fire (Thunder and Water hime teams) because I've been optimising Thunder and the game throws SSR water himes at me. That's put me top 300. If I can double my burst damage with a 50% debuff engineered the turn before, that should put me safely clear of position 350, which looks to me like the only rewards step that matters (assuming you can't drop out of top 1000 and aren't looking to make top 50, which I expect requires S-level souls at this point)

Thanks for the details Slashey. Good luck trying for that 2 full bursts... :-)

Wolfheinirich

06-29-2020, 03:49 PM

If I had a solid solution, I would tell you. You'll need at least two very strong Full Bursts to get any kind of decent score, but exactly you can get two off is... beyond me. Well, I guess it's not that bad for perfect Light teams, but.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what's been shared. I have accidentally triggered the def down before and didn't know how it happened.

Slashley

07-04-2020, 02:26 AM

Well, with my Himes, I can't figure out how to do double Full Bursts. I can do ~30m off-element with Water Vigor build, doing FB on turn2 before I lose much HP. Asherah Awakened is +40 to all, Neptune is +50 burst to Medea thanks to double Wool. I believe it is the same setup that is used for double FB on Water, but I'd need to have Water Diana replacement for the second full burst, I think.

With no Wind Atum, Water Diana, Ymir, Michael and Aether, I think I am basically locked out of double full-bursts from all elements. I will probably finish around rank 100, which is by far the lowest I've ever been, but what can you do.

Slashley

07-05-2020, 01:35 AM

https://youtu.be/2lQ1F_sBiKkIt is sad but pretty much the best I can do. I am still far, far away from even completing my Water Vigor Grid, hah.

Wolfheinirich

07-06-2020, 02:17 PM

Instead of spending all of my resources to make one super strong grid, I tend to want to shore up my weakest link. Although, having said that, with the introduction of T4 soul changed me slightly. In any event, none of my grid are that far along and I have only just begun unlocking the 4th accessory slot for some of my more often use hime. I don't think I'll break into the 100's and may be the next dummy will favor my play style more

Chrestomancy

07-08-2020, 08:19 AM

I held position in top 250 through taking advantage of the 50% auto-debuff (although annoyingly, I have no Thunder SSRs with blue, and my ideal max-damage Water SSR grid doesn't have green OR blue, but anyway). Hit 23M for Thunder and Water teams, everybody else 17M and some change. I eventually used Thunder for both Light and Dark, which was pretty disappointing as I have good eidolons for both. My Fire team held up very well against Wind, which was nice because Thunder would never do very well there.

Hopefully by the next competing-event I'll have a T4 soul and can jump up the rankings a little bit more. I'm still more than 100 away from Slashey, after all. :-)

Slashley

07-09-2020, 11:08 AM

So, the sixth Skill Checker-kun has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Total:

01. Rori Juice 331m [7e,352H] (Isekai)
02. Caldernaji 278m [5e,268H] (DarkHell)
03. geoffchu 274m [1e,288H] (Isekai)
04. dreamlitz 270m [3e,319H] (Nonsense)
05. nonsensei 267m [1e,306H] (Drama Club)
06. Umarekawatta Senshi 254m [4e,306H] (Isekai)
07. Scorpiossss 238m [4e,321H] (Isekai)
08. 666 233m [3e,325H] (=Akatsuki=)
09. TrueRayS 231m [3e,290H] (Isekai)
10. Linkin Park 230m [6e,358H] (20something)
11. AsD2038 224m [6e,348H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
12. SiegeDragon 224m [7e,335H] (Isekai)
13. Aurelius 219m [2e,293H] (Weeb Wanks)
14. blahmoo 217m [2e,307H] (IronBlades)
15. demonitizedtxxx 213m [4e,294H] (Weeb Wanks)
16. Meaqua 211m [4e,341H] (Perfection)
17. Msy 209m [2e,252H] (20something)
18. Will 209m [6e,294H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
19. Osmium 208m [3e,276H] (Cybeast v1)
20. Belo 205m [3e,305H] (Пандорика (Pandorika))
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23. Whale 202m [6e,321H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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25. FlyingPengy 202m [6e,309H] (DarkHell)
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30. Little Hsien 197m [5e,273H] (WindSoughs)
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42. Minerva 184m [4e,317H] (Drama Club)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
37. Slashley 188m [5e,317H] (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. Rori Juice 62m, Wind [145e] Medea-Titania-Aether-Uriel-Atum (Isekai)
02. Caldernaji 54m, Water [160e] Medea-Neptune-Vohu-Lakshmi-Asherah (DarkHell)
03. geoffchu 51m, Light [120e] Medea-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
04. dreamlitz 50m, Wind [ GE] Medea-Aether-El-Atum-Sytry (Nonsense)
05. Umarekawatta Senshi 49m, Wind [160e] Medea-Titania-Aether-Azazel-Sytry (Isekai)
06. nonsensei 48m, Water [ GE] Medea-Saraswati-Lakshmi-Asherah-Hypno (Drama Club)
07. FlyingPengy 46m, Light [120e] Hector-Sol-Michael-Lugh-Iris (DarkHell)
08. Scorpiossss 46m, Thunder [120e] Medea-Justitia-Marduk-Perkele-Arianrod (Isekai)
09. TrueRayS 46m, Wind [120e] Medea-Titania-Aether-Azazel-Sytry (Isekai)
10. 666 45m, Light [120e] Charlemagne-Atum-Michael-Kali-Lugh (=Akatsuki=)
11. AsD2038 43m, Wind [155e] Shingen-Aether-Cu-Uriel-Azazel (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
12. Linkin Park 43m, Wind [160e] Shingen-Titania-Aether-Uriel-Azazel (20something)
13. Aurelius 42m, Wind [160e] Medea-Aether-Frigg-Azazel-Atum (Weeb Wanks)
14. Msy 42m, Wind [160e] Shingen-Aether-Cu-Uriel-Azazel (20something)
15. Little Hsien 42m, Wind [140e] Shingen-Azazel-Atum-Asherah-Sytry (WindSoughs)
16. SiegeDragon 42m, Water [160e] Medea-Saraswati-Vohu-Lakshmi-Asherah (Isekai)
17. blahmoo 42m, Wind [160e] Medea-Aether-Uriel-Azazel-Atum (IronBlades)
18. Minerva 41m, Water [100e] Medea-Saraswati-Lakshmi-Asherah-Hypno (Drama Club)
19. Osmium 41m, Wind [120e] Medea-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Sytry (Cybeast v1)
20. Whale 41m, Wind [120e] Shingen-Aether-Cu-Uriel-Azazel (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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22. demonizedtxxx 40m, Light [120e] Medea-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Amaterasu (Weeb Wanks)
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25. Meaqua 39m, Wind [160e] Medea-Arianrod-Aether-Azazel-Atum (Perfection)
26. Belo 39m, Wind [160e] Medea-Titania-Aether-Azazel-Atum (Пандорика (Pandorika))
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28. Will 39m, Wind [160e] Medea-Aether-Frigg-Azazel-Atum (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
45. Slashley 36m, Water [160e] Medea-Neptune-Vohu-Lakshmi-Asherah (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

Very specific Hime was required this time around. Well, that is always the case, but this time in particular. The most interesting additions are SR Hime who had the elusive double blue abilities, such as Sytry or Thunder Nyarl (who didn't make the final list). Still, despite the cores of all elements being very rigid, there was a some amount of variance.

Congrats to Calder to being a very clear second. I have no idea how you did that while supposedly not having Wind Atum in the back, you otter madman.

Slashley

09-25-2020, 11:18 AM

The seventh Skill Checker-kun has arrived. Basic info on how shit works:

Skill Checker-kun (main body):
Element: Your chosen element
Def: 10
Debuff resistance: Normal
Has a Rage bar, but only used for Rage and Stun punisher abilities (~4.5m HP per phase).
No Overdrives.
Immune to Paralyze, Charm and Madness (Cthulhu's Charm)
Has ~66% elemental resistance against all but elemental weakness.
Trigger: On turns 5, 8 and 11: All Atk+ (stacks) (cannot be Dispelled), Dbl+ (stacks) and Trpl+ (stacks)

Skill Checker-chan (alpha at top, beta at bottom):
Element: Phantom
Def: 20 (will take half damage!)
Debuff resistance: Normal
No Rage bar.
2t Overdrive: All damage (with no debuffs: ~300 no buffs, ~900 1 stack, ~2200 2 stacks, ~5000 full stacks)
Immune to Paralyze, Charm, Madness (Cthulhu's Charm) and... BP?
Has ~66% elemental resistance against all but main body's weakness.
Trigger: When attacked AND target isn't buffed with a Skill Checker-chan buff: Give enemy party Vigor (B frame +30%?)(alpha) / Counterattack (+?%)(beta) 3t (effectively 2t) (takes priority over Overdrive!)

Okay, where do I begin?
Well, you should be attacking the main body most of the time, since the adds have high def.

With massive damage cut being applied to non-elemental advantage teams, you will need to use all six elements. Honestly, my Light team is so bad that I could probably outdamage it with my Thunder/Water, if it wasn't for the fact that ~66% elemental resistance also makes Skill Checker-kun immune to debuffs when off-element. So, -66% damage reduction AND no debuffs? Yeah, even my awful, awful Light team will need to make do this time around. Also, to my understanding this resistance will be applied to all Skill Checker-kun events from now on.

If you don't manipulate the adds with Orb eats, they will deal ~17k AoE damage to your party over the fight, with most of it being on turn 12. You can significantly reduce this by attacking one add or by using attack debuffs/damage cuts. Just remember that they - and the main body! - will also be normal attacking every turn. The normal attacks are fairly devastating when fully buffed, as a triple attack from anyone will be about 12k-15k single target damage (if no debuffs/damage cuts are used) - this happening three times per turn is very deadly.

Attacking the adds will net you a HUGE buff, assuming that such a buff already isn't applied. Make sure to get these buffs especially before Full Bursts! Note that Skill Checker-chan alpha's Vigor will stack with yours! Also remember that Vigor is already only half as efficient at 83% HP. I don't know where the cut-off point is for using Vigor (from top) or Counterattack (from bottom).

Oddly enough, while they're all immune to Charm and Paralyze, they probably aren't to Flame Bind (Suzaku), Sleep (Hades) and Restraint (no real Hime have this). This probably will have no real impact on the fight, though.

No idea on what the basic tactic and break-through Hime/Souls will be for this event. I am assuming Yori since Full Burst Bonus is AoE damage, and I guess debuffers mixed with AoE damage dealers will be the Hime. Summer Cybele can do both, so I assume she will be core for Water. Still, I bet that Light will just dominate the high scores since Michael is just OP OP OP in a 14 turn fight.

But maybe perhaps Calder (or somebody else!) would like to enlighten us teams for all elements?

Slashley

10-05-2020, 11:46 AM

So, the elemental resistance for Skill Checker-kun and Skill Checker-chans is just, poof, gone now. So people are very clearly running their Light Michael teams against all elements.

Thanks, devs.

Jessa

10-05-2020, 12:05 PM

Except Wind. Wind dummy's dmg cut still werks as it's supposed to.

Slashley

10-09-2020, 05:16 AM

So, the seventh Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Total:

01. Rori Juice 1355m [7e,377H] (Isekai)
02. AsD2038 1210m [6e,364H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. Ken 1202m [6e,392H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. nonsensei 1168m [1e,325H] (Drama Club)
05. VERYVOODOO 1145m [3e,317H] (Ixion)
06. Linkin Park 1129m [6e,372H] (20something)
07. Cyler 1123m [7e,338H] (DeathLotus)
08. msn06s 1122m [5e,380H] (Isekai)
09. Caldernaji 1106m [5e,295H] (DarkHell)
10. FFF 1093m [6e,374H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
11. Char Aznable 1084m [3e,320H] (Lalka-Doll)
12. Umarekawatta Senshi 1082m [4e,333H] (Isekai)
13. AXSXCE 1058m [5e,369H] (RedPhantom)
14. Myth 1055m [6e,329H] (20something)
15. dreamlitz 1055m [3e,338H] (Nonsense)
16. SiegeDragon 1053m [7e,365H] (Isekai)
17. Will 1046m [6e,316H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
18. Valen 1030m [2e,345H] (Weeb Wanks)
19. Whale 1027m [6e,339H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
20. Scorpiossss 1024m [4e,343H] (Isekai)
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22. SwampyKong 1002m [7e,373H] (DarkHell)
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24. Slashley 985m [5e,338H] (Kingdom AR)
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39. geoffchu 905m [1e,311H] (Isekai)
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42. yummi 903m [5e,354H] (Amaterasu)
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47. Machis DIIIBBBYYYYY 892m [6e,346H] (DarkHell)
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50. Machis Pengy 874m [5e,326H] (DarkHell)
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77. jasieknms 753m [7e,317H] (Amaterasu)
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195. MagicSpice 526m [6e,345H] (MoonKnight)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.]Highest:

01. Rori Juice 301m, Wind [ 30c] Yori-Aether-Kali-Atum-SR Marduk (Isekai)
02. Machis Pengy 271m, Light [ GE] Yori-Michael-Lugh-Iris-Baal (DarkHell)
03. dreamlitz 254m, Light [ GE] Yori-Atum-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Nonsense)
04. geoffchu 253m, Light [ GE] Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Isekai)
05. Caldernaji 252m, Water [160e] Yori-Vohu-Cthulhu-Diana-Asherah (DarkHell)
06. msn06s 249m, Thunder [ ?c] Yori-Tyr-Ymir-Marduk-Anshar (Isekai)
07. Umarekawatta Senshi 241m, Thunder [ ?c] Yori-Tyr-Marduk-Arianrod-Anshar (Isekai)
08. Scorpiossss 236m, Thunder [ ?c] Yori-Tyr-Marduk-Arianrod-Anshar (Isekai)
09. yummi 235m, Wind [145e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (Amaterasu)
10. nonsensei 235m, Light [ GE] Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Drama Club)
11. jasieknms 231m, Water [120e] Yori-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Asherah (Amaterasu)
12. Ken 231m, Thunder [ ?c] Yori-Marduk-Nuwa-Raiko-Anshar (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. SwampyKong 231m, Fire [160e] Yori-Amon-Mammon-Vahagn-Frey (DarkHell)
14. Slashley 230m, Thunder [ 70c] Yori-Baal-Aphrodite-Marduk-Nuwa (Kingdom AR)
15. Cyler 222m, Light [120e] Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (DeathLotus)
16. SiegeDragon 222m, Water [ ?c] Yori-Lakshmi-Cthulhu-Pluto-Asherah (Isekai)
17. MagicSpice 222m, Light [ GE] Yori-Artemis-Michael-Iris-Baal (MoonKnight)
18. AsD2038 221m, Fire [160e] Yori-Amon-Mammon-Vahagn-Frey (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
19. Machis DIIIBBBYYYYY 213m, Thunder [155e] Yori-Baal-Marduk-Raiko-Samael (DarkHell)
20. Linkin Park 213m, Wind [160e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (20something)
21. VERYVOODOO 212m, Light [120e] Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Ixion)
22. Will 211m, Wind [160e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Ishtar (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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26. Valen 209m, Thunder [115e] Yori-Tyr-Ymir-Nuwa-Marduk (Weeb Wanks)
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29. Whale 206m, Wind [120e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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32. FFF 204m, Thunder [ ?c] Yori-Michael-Nuwa-Arianrod-Anshar (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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40. AXSXCE 199m, Wind [155e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (RedPhantom)
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42. Char Aznable 198m, Water [160e] Yori-Lakshmi-Shiva-Cthulhu-Pluto (Lalka-Doll)
43. Myth 196m, Fire [ ?] ? (20something)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.]Good work, everyone.

Unfortunately this event just broke near the end, and allowed you to off-element everything except Wind Skill Checker-kun. This made the scores a giant mess, since we have people with Michael who exploited the shit out of this and people who didn't. And also, top score brought off-element sacrifice girls, so that became a thing. Clever thinking, but please. Well, personally, I cheated 30m more score for myself, jumping my Dark Skill Checker-kun from 100m to 130m or so.

Thanks to the adds existing, Burst Streak Eidolons were by far superior. All the ?c Eidolons are most likely MLB ones, and probably everyone on the list who used P2W Eidolons ran with a Friend Ifrit/Fenrir/Giri. All except Light that is, since there is no Light version of that. Instead, they used... Hagith? Why? I don't understand. Could anyone share some light why Hagith-Mana instead of double Mana?

nonsensei

10-18-2020, 03:32 AM

Could anyone share some light why Hagith-Mana instead of double Mana?

Just sum maths. Since Hagith affects exceed as well, even if NAtks may be slightly lower compared to double Fluffy, the burst dmg will be higher which as you already know light benefits a lot. That, and simple HP pool increase in order to survive without much of a dmg cut/heal.

I didn't end up using any streak eido, myself for grids and/or eidos not allowing me to, leaving me with either lower overall dmg or just making my already hard job surviving even harder for the lack of guardian bonus in HP department. Also no Seiryu/Suzaku/Genbu to make survival on last turns easier.
Here is my playlist of runs in case anyone interested, it was pretty fun to try out all my elements, although my thunder left me pretty disappointed despite the potentially high dmg output units (even if I still lack all the cores):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyiXFd2J9WB5TdPMKWEhZjnN-Kcekm8Ak

Oh, and wind is supposed to be the ruler of Dummies at this point, just taco apparently being too light bias. The reason should be pretty obvious if you take a look at my wind run which didn't even involve Yori or most cores. I gotta say, that surprised me as well.
(And hello, yes, I'm bored, don't mind me too much)

Slashley

10-18-2020, 04:06 AM

Just sum maths. Since Hagith affects exceed as well, even if NAtks may be slightly lower compared to double Fluffy, the burst dmg will be higher which as you already know light benefits a lot. That, and simple HP pool increase in order to survive without much of a dmg cut/heal.Ah, I see. As somebody who hasn't managed to get Michael, I don't value the damage part of Exceed in the slightest. I just grab enough for burst cap. But I guess if you're fast enough...
Oh, and wind is supposed to be the ruler of Dummies at this point, just taco apparently being too light bias. The reason should be pretty obvious if you take a look at my wind run which didn't even involve Yori or most cores. I gotta say, that surprised me as well.Read: "Wind Atum is OP as fug"?

nonsensei

10-18-2020, 04:36 AM

Ah, I see. As somebody who hasn't managed to get Michael, I don't value the damage part of Exceed in the slightest. I just grab enough for burst cap. But I guess if you're fast enough...
Considering I bursted 7x out of 14 turns, yeah. NAtks become pretty insignificant at that point, and nukes (which were mostly just Lugh) reach cap, anyway.

Read: "Wind Atum is OP as fug"?
That's the gist of it, yes.

Slashley

01-15-2021, 04:08 PM

Time for a new Skill Checker-kun, it seems. As usual now, he is nigh-immune to off-element attempts.

This time the gimmick is that Balance and Tricky types deal 1.5x extra damage (the extra damage ignores damage caps supposedly, so 525k normal attacks and 3m bursts). However, please keep in mind that reaching Def cap doubles damage for everyone, which is far more important than one more Tricky/Balance Hime.

Skill Checker-kun himself is very simple this time around, all he does is this:
Turn 1: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~500 AoE
Turn 4: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~2000 AoE (higher priority than Overdrive)(will punch for about 1k at this point)
Turn 7: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~4000 AoE (higher priority than Overdrive)(will punch for about 3k at this point)
Overdrive: Combo+(stacks) and attack normally
So, nothing devastating this time. Just don't expect to be at full health at the end of the fight, but for the most part, Vigor should serve you extremely well here.

Here is a list of noteworthy Tricky and Balance characters, courtesy of DMM wiki (http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89%E6%88%A6%E6% 8A%80%E7%AB%B6%E6%8A%80%E4%BC%9A). Bolded have def debuffs, italics are limited:
Souls:Van Helsing, Billy the Kid, Crowley. Note that you'll usually just use Yori.

Fire:Amon, Yamaraja -20 B, Dakki, Prometheus, Heph(SR) -15 A, Culyune(SR) -10 C, Sati(SR) -10 unique (reminder: Cerberus -15)

Water:Nike -20 A, Celia -15 A, Cthulhu -20 C, Pluto -30 unique, Diana, Dagda, Saraswati, Neptune, Gabriel(SR) -12 A, Parjanya(SR) -20 B, Belphegor(SR) -12 B

Wind:Hastur A -20 E -10, Poseidon, Manes, Aether, Minerva, Titania, Cybele(SR) -15 B, Oberon(SR) -15 A, and of course Atum. Because 6m full bursts are going to be totally fair and balanced. (reminder: Hraes -20)

Thunder:Anshar -20 E, Nuwa -20 B, Samael -30 A, Marduk, Arianrod, KARIN, Vishnu, Noel(SR) -15 A, Nyarl -15 C (reminder: Nidhoggr -15)

Light:Tishtrya -15 B, Nike, Baal, Michiru, Hastur, Michael, Eros, Shamash, Diana(SR) -15 A

Dark:Satan -15 A -10 E, Amon -25 C, Samael -25 E, Nyarl -20 E (and -30 unique 1/2 uptime), DWU, Nuwa, Bastet, Hades, Pluto, Chernobog, Agaliarept, Selene, Nyarl(SR) -15 A

This one seems to be even stronger than ever in the "did you catch them all?" category, but oh well. Good luck to you all.

Slashley

01-29-2021, 07:43 AM

So, the eight Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Total:

01. (moonrunes)#1 900m [6e,426H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
02. SwampyKong 891m [6e,405H] (DarkHell)
03. AsD2038 866m [6e,391H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. msn06s 839m [7e,406H] (Isekai)
05. 666 819m [6e,398H] ((moonrunes))
06. (moonrunes)#2 817m [7e,397H] (Isekai)
07. Char Aznable 798m [4e,345H] (NeoZeon)
08. VERYVOODOO 791m [3e,343H] (Ixion)
09. keajo 784m [4e,381H] (RedPhantom)
10. hyugaricdeau 784m [6e,420H] (TsukiKishi)
11. nonsensei 773m [1e,343H] (Drama Club)
12. mlw61520 765m [4e,372H] (Khaos)
13. J 758m [2e,346H] (TsukiKishi)
14. Arrow 735m [7e,380H] (Gacha)
15. Myth 735m [6e,371H] (20something)
16. AXSXCE 728m [4e,396H] (RedPhantom)
17. (moonrunes)#3 728m [2e,363H] (Weeb Wanks)
18. dreamlitz 716m [2e,350H] (Nonsense)
19. Aurelius 707m [6e,358H] (Weeb Wanks)
20. (moonrunes)#4 702m [7e,400H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
25. Linkin Park 662m [6e,396H] (20something)
26. Caldernaji 658m [6e,322H] (DarkHell)
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36. jasieknms 623m [7e,339H] (DarkHell)
...
47. yummi 606m [6e,398H] (DarkHell)
...
71. PanTurtle 526m [2e,314H] (Weeb Wanks)
...
138. (moonrunes)#5 432m [5e,301H] (20something)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
30. Slashley 647m [5e,363H] (Kingdom AR)Highest:

01. (moonrunes)#2 187m, Wind [150e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (Isekai)
02. msn06s 184m, Wind [160e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (Isekai)
03. (moonrunes)#1 182m, Water [155e] Parac-Neptune-Cthulhu-Pluto-Dadga (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. SwampyKong 176m, Wind [140e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (DarkHell)
05. Myth 174m, Wind [155e] Yori-Kali-Atum-Hastur-Marduk(SR) (20something)
06. mlw61520 172m, Dark [120e] Yori-Amon-Take-DWU-Nyarl(SSR) (Khaos)
07. Caldernaji 168m, Water [160e] Yori-Neptune-Cthulhu-Pluto-Asherah (DarkHell)
08. yummi 168m, Wind [160e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (DarkHell)
09. Linkin Park 167m, Wind [160e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (20something)
10. PanTurtle 166m, Wind [ GE] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (Weeb Wanks)
11. 666 166m, Light [120e] Parac-Michael-Iris-Eros-Baal ((moonrunes))
12. dreamlitz 162m, Light [ GE] Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris (Nonsense)
13. VERYVOODOO 162m, Wind [ GE] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (Ixion)
14. jasieknms 161m, Water [120e] Yori-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Asherah (DarkHell)
15. AsD2038 161m, Wind [160e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. nonsensei 160m, Light [ GE] Parac-Michael-Iris-Eros-Baal (Drama Club)
17. AXSXCE 160m, Wind [160e] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (RedPhantom)
18. J 159m, Thunder [160e] Caspar-Marduk-Samael-Arianrod-Anshar (TsukiKishi)
19. Char Aznable 158m, Wind [Kyuki] Yori-Kali-Atum-Hastur-Marduk(SR) (NeoZeon)
20. (moonrunes)#5 157m, Wind [155e] Yori-Minerva-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (20something)
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23. (moonrunes)#4 153m, Thunder [160e] Yori-Marduk-Nuwa-Samael-Sol (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
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28. keajo 151m, Dark [120e] Yori-Satan-Thanatos-DWU-Nuwa (RedPhantom)
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32. Arrow 148m, Thunder [120e] Parac-Marduk-Nuwa-Samael-Cyclops(SR) (Gacha)
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36. Aurelius 146m, Thunder [160e] Yori-Marduk-Raiko-Samael-Anshar (Weeb Wanks)
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41. hyugaricdeau 143m, Thunder [160e] Yori-Marduk-Samael-Arianrod-Anshar (TsukiKishi)
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45. (moonrunes)#3 140m, Wind [ GE] Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur (TsukiKishi)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
38. Slashley 146m, Thunder [Giri] Yori-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar-Sol (Kingdom AR)Good work, everyone.

Teams were quite tight this round, as expected. There was exactly one cookie-cutter build for Wind, for example. If you missed any of the ideal hime for a team, you were quite likely just fucked on that element. Additionally, for this Skill Checker and all the Skill Checkers to come, whoever has the most MLB North Star Eidolons is just going to win. Many of the people on the top didn't use any, but we are eventually going to see a shift towards a direction where those who spam North Stars will just have unreachable scores.

Personally I put in a ton of effort into making my Thunder team work, but just couldn't. I crazy optimized a build which went up to 144m, then got reminded by Calder that Devil set exists. Duh. Well, I just couldn't optimize it properly with Devils, so I got a meager 2m boost swapping from Tiaras to Devils. At that point I basically just lost interest. Not that I would be MUCH higher up on the list if I had tried Devil Accessories on other elements, like I tried putting it on Wind and found out that I didn't have enough base HP to support that, ha ha.

Slashley

02-04-2021, 05:23 AM

Since this Skill Checker-kun was VERY gimmicky, I don't know if there is any point to this but... I compiled a per-element leaderboard.

Please note that outside of the bolded, this list is NOT accurate. For example for Wind teams, it's plenty possible that somebody got 157m making him #14 instead of nonsensei. But because he is outside of both top20s, I can't see him and therefore can't list his score.

Water:
01 (moonrunes)#1 182m
02 Caldernaji 168m
03 jasieknms 161m
04 666 155m
05 AsD2038 152m
06 keajo 150m
07 CharAznable 149m
08 (moonrunes)#2 145m
09 LinkinPark 144m
10 Aurelius 144m
11 J 143m
12 msn06s 140m
13 Arrow 137m
14 nonsensei 134m
15 hyugaricdeau 134m
16 VERYVOODOO 133m
17 SwampyKong 131m
18 Slashley 129m
19 mlw61520 118m
20 dreamlitz 108m
21 Myth 107m
22 AXSXCE 107m
23 (moonrunes)#3 107m
24 (moonrunes)#4 105m
25 yummi 88m
26 PanTurtle 60m
27 (moonrunes)#5 53mThunder:
01 msn06s 166m
02 (moonrunes)#1 161m
03 J 159m
04 (moonrunes)#4 153m
05 SwampyKong 152m
06 Arrow 148m
07 CharAznable 146m
08 Aurelius 146m
09 Slashley 146m
10 hyugaricdeau 143m
11 AsD2038 141m
12 keajo 134m
13 (moonrunes)#3 134m
14 yummi 133m
15 (moonrunes)#2 129m
16 AXSXCE 129m
17 666 123m
18 mlw61520 122m
19 VERYVOODOO 120m
20 jasieknms 115m
21 dreamlitz 115m
22 Caldernaji 104m
23 nonsensei 102m
24 Myth 101m
25 LinkinPark 95m
26 (moonrunes)#5 49m
27 PanTurtle 41mFire:
01 SwampyKong 151m
02 AsD2038 136m
03 (moonrunes)#1 135m
04 VERYVOODOO 113m
05 Arrow 112m
06 hyugaricdeau 112m
07 msn06s 111m
08 666 110m
09 (moonrunes)#2 109m
10 nonsensei 109m
11 (moonrunes)#3 106m
12 mlw61520 105m
13 Myth 105m
14 CharAznable 102m
15 Caldernaji 101m
16 keajo 99m
17 J 93m
18 AXSXCE 89m
19 dreamlitz 88m
20 (moonrunes)#4 86m
21 Aurelius 85m
22 PanTurtle 85m
23 yummi 80m
24 jasieknms 80m
25 Slashley 76m
26 (moonrunes)#5 61m
27 LinkinPark 59mWind:
01 (moonrunes)#2 187m
02 msn06s 184m
03 SwampyKong 176m
04 Myth 174m
05 (moonrunes)#1 171m
06 yummi 168m
07 LinkinPark 167m
08 PanTurtle 166m
09 VERYVOODOO 162m
10 AsD2038 161m
11 AXSXCE 160m
12 CharAznable 158m
13 (moonrunes)#5 157m
14 nonsensei 156m
15 hyugaricdeau 141m
16 (moonrunes)#3 140m
17 mlw61520 135m
18 Aurelius 129m
19 666 127m
20 J 121m
21 Arrow 120m
22 Caldernaji 119m
23 dreamlitz 118m
24 keajo 116m
25 Slashley 116m
26 (moonrunes)#4 111m
27 jasieknms 82mDark:
01 mlw61520 172m
02 keajo 151m
03 msn06s 147m
04 666 136m
05 J 134m
06 SwampyKong 130m
07 AsD2038 129m
08 VERYVOODOO 125m
09 hyugaricdeau 124m
10 dreamlitz 123m
11 (moonrunes)#3 122m
12 AXSXCE 117m
13 CharAznable 115m
14 Myth 114m
15 (moonrunes)#1 111m
16 (moonrunes)#4 110m
17 nonsensei 109m
18 (moonrunes)#2 105m
19 Arrow 105m
20 Aurelius 103m
21 LinkinPark 99m
22 Slashley 99m
23 jasieknms 91m
24 PanTurtle 84m
25 yummi 80m
26 Caldernaji 62m
27 (moonrunes)#5 49mLight:
01 666 166m
02 dreamlitz 162m
03 nonsensei 160m
04 SwampyKong 149m
05 AsD2038 144m
06 (moonrunes)#2 140m
07 (moonrunes)#1 137m
08 VERYVOODOO 135m
09 (moonrunes)#4 134m
10 keajo 131m
11 Myth 131m
12 hyugaricdeau 128m
13 CharAznable 125m
14 AXSXCE 123m
15 (moonrunes)#3 114m
16 Arrow 111m
17 mlw61520 110m
18 J 105m
19 Caldernaji 102m
20 Aurelius 98m
21 LinkinPark 95m
22 jasieknms 92m
23 msn06s 88m
24 PanTurtle 88m
25 Slashley 80m
26 (moonrunes)#5 61m
27 yummi 56m

Slashley

03-16-2021, 07:01 AM

Ninth Skill Checker-kun has begun.

You have 11 turns. Elemental advantage only. Debuffs apply, except for things that prevent Skill Checker-kun from taking turns (Charm, Para, you know). Rages and Stuns quickly. Every turn you get hit by a Trigger:It loops by doing small, medium, high damage. With the third one applying Atk Up (which I assume cannot be Dispelled). Without debuffs, about:
Turn 01: 3x250 (750)
Turn 02: 3x350 (1050)
Turn 03: 5x700 (3500)
Turn 04: 3x1200 (3600)
Turn 05: 3x1800 (5400)
Turn 06: 5x3500 (17500)
Turn 07: 3x2200 (6600)
Turn 08: 3x3200 (9600)
Turn 09: 5x6200 (31000)
Turn 10: 3x3200 (9600)
Turn 11: Damage you take on this turn doesn't matter.That's a total of 88600 damage. There are two catches though: damage is extremely likely to hit the front row only, and back row takes way less damage (50-75% reduction, unsure). In other words, you have two tactics available to you: killing front rowers on purpose, or using Guard from back row to mitigate damage significantly.

The DMM wiki seems to also be talking about Intercept, but I couldn't make that happen. If Intercept does work, I assume that Arianrod (2/5 uptime), Shamash (3/6 uptime), Berith (3/5 uptime) and Erebus (3/6+ uptime) would be handy.

And finally, to be noted is that this Skill Checker-kun has high Def. This means three things:
1. You will be doing 62.5% damage compared to normal. Since you were doing 150% damage to last Skill Checker-kun, the numbers may feel very low this time (between half and one-third).
2. Ability damage which is basically always capped against normal def might feel more useful now. However, Full Bursts are still where the damage is at.
3. Extreme whales will pull higher numbers compared to you this time around. Since if you barely hit cap and they hit for 10% more damage, it means that they actually have twice your power. Now that the pure power required to hit cap is way higher, their numbers will be far bigger than yours.

Ultimately, whoever has the most MLB Northern Stars will win though. Good luck, have fun~

Slashley

03-30-2021, 02:33 PM

So, the ninth Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Total:

01. msn06s 556m [7e,416H] (Isekai)
02. 666 548m [6e,411H] (20something)
03. AsD2038 548m [7e,398H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. keajo 534m [4e,397H] (RedPhantom)
05. VERYVOODOO 534m [3e,356H] (Ixion)
06. mlw61520 521m [4e,382H] (Khaos)
07. SwampyKong 517m [7e,412H] (DarkHell)
08. AXSXCE 498m [6e,404H] (RedPhantom)
09. Arrow 496m [7e,395H] (Gacha)
10. hyugaricdeau 495m [6e,433H] (TsukiKishi)
11. Char Aznable 494m [4e,355H] (NeoZeon)
12. Nurse Dom 493m [4e,367H] (TsukiKishi)
13. J 490m [4e,363H] (TsukiKishi)
14. dreamlitz 483m [3e,361H] (Nonsense)
15. (moonrunes#1) 483m [6e,413H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. (moonrunes#2) 474m [2e,373H] (Weeb Wanks)
17. Myth 455m [6e,383H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
18. Aurelius 453m [5e,372H] (Weeb Wanks)
19. ChaosPrince42 451m [6e,384H] (RedPhantom)
20. Yion 451m [5e,321H] (Isekai)
...
22. Whale 443m [6e,371H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
23. Slashley 433m [5e,372H] (Isekai)
...
27. alex 424m [5e,377H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
30. jasieknms 451m [7e,348H] (DarkHell)
...
35. yummi 394m [6e,406H] (DarkHell)
...
59. Alyssa 351m [5e,308H] (TsukiKishi)
...
115. Cyler 282m [7e,375H] (DeathLotus)
...
340. Artur 178m [6e,400H] (Khaos)
[e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.]Highest:

01. mlw61520 128m, Dark [?] ? (Khaos)
02. 666 120m, Light [?] ? (20something)
03. Cyler 114m, Light [?] ? (DeathLotus)
04. dreamlitz 114m, Light [?] ? (Nonsense)
05. Artur 113m, Dark [?] ? (Khaos)
06. AsD2038 109m, Wind [?] ? (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
08. yummi 107m, Wind [?] ? (DarkHell)
09. Nurse Dom 106m, Light [?] ? (TsukiKishi)
10. msn06s 106m, Thunder [?] ? (Isekai)
11. AXSXCE 104m, Wind [?] ? (RedPhantom)
12. J 102m, Dark [?] ? (TsukiKishi)
13. SwampyKong 102m, Fire [?] ? (DarkHell)
14. VERYVOODOO 102m, Dark [?] ? (Ixion)
15. keajo 102m, Dark [?] ? (RedPhantom)
16. alex 101m, Light [?] ? (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
17. Myth 100m, Light [?] ? (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
18. jasieknms 99m, Water [120e] Yori-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Asherah (DarkHell)
19. Whale 98m, Light [?] ? (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
20. Alyssa 97m, Wind [140e] Yori-Frigg-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (TsukiKishi)
21. Arrow 97m, Wind [115e] Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (Gacha)
22. (moonrunes#2) 96m, Thunder [?] ? (Weeb Wanks)
...
24. hyugaricdeau 95m, Light [?] ? (TsukiKishi)
...
26. (moonrunes#1) 93m, Thunder [160e] Yori-Tyr-Marduk-Anshar-Sol (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
28. Char Aznable 93m, Wind [?] ? (NeoZeon)
...
31. Yion 91m, Fire [?] ? (Isekai)
...
43. Slashley 88m, Thunder [160e] Yori-Marduk-Tyr-Nuwa-Sol (Isekai)
...
51. Aurelius 85m, Water [?] ? (Weeb Wanks)
...
82. ChaosPrince42 82m, Water [160e] Yori-Nike-Shiva-Cthulhu-Pluto (RedPhantom)
[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
Good work, everyone.

Well, ultimately ended up being a fairly interesting event. Sadly, the rankings broke after the first three days... so the only teams that we know of are the ones where the run was done at the very start. Maybe. I make no guarantee that teams here are correct, it is fully possible that people went back and improved their scores during the second week with a different team this time around.

Dark did extremely well this time around. I would assume that's because of damage caps were less of an issue? Dark has lots of Hime which self-buff to extreme levels - this usually just means that they hit damage caps and don't hit as hard as they should, but high def in this event made it far less of a problem. Or it could've been due to Berith/Erebus Intercept. I dunno, if anyone does know, feel free to post. I'd LOVE to know meta teams in general, something that sadly we don't get to see this time around. Thanks Nutaku!

Slashley

04-05-2021, 02:47 AM

I compiled a per-element leaderboard for 9th Skill Checker-kun. This one was rather un-gimmicky, so I figured why not. Again, these are not guaranteed numbers below bolded.

Water:
01 jasieknms 99
02 msn06s 94
03 keajo 94
04 Arrow 89
05 VERYVOODOO 88
06 Aurelius 85
07 SwampyKong 84
08 Char Aznable 84
09 666 83
10 ChaosPrince42 82
11 J 80
12 Slashley 80
13 AsD2038 75
14 Nurse Dom 75
15 Yion 75
16 hyugaricdeau 74
17 (moonrunes#1) 74
18 mlw61520 73
19 (moonrunes#2) 68
20 alex 65
21 dreamlitz 63
22 Myth 63
23 AXSXCE 61
24 Whale 61
25 yummi 42
26 Alyssa 37
27 MagicSpice 21
28 Cyler 13
29 Artur 12Thunder:
01 msn06s 106
02 (moonrunes#2) 96
03 AXSXCE 94
04 (moonrunes#1) 93
05 AsD2038 91
06 Arrow 90
07 Slashley 88
08 Nurse Dom 84
09 Aurelius 83
10 J 83
11 mlw61520 83
12 VERYVOODOO 82
13 keajo 81
14 Char Aznable 80
15 ChaosPrince42 80
16 alex 80
17 yummi 79
18 SwampyKong 78
19 hyugaricdeau 78
20 666 74
21 dreamlitz 73
22 Whale 70
23 jasieknms 64
24 Myth 64
25 Yion 63
26 Alyssa 40
27 MagicSpice 32
28 Cyler 23
29 Artur 11Fire:
01 SwampyKong 102
02 AsD2038 92
03 Yion 91
04 Myth 87
05 Arrow 86
06 hyugaricdeau 85
07 keajo 77
08 666 77
09 jasieknms 77
10 msn06s 76
11 J 76
12 VERYVOODOO 76
13 Char Aznable 76
14 dreamlitz 76
15 mlw61520 73
16 ChaosPrince42 70
17 Nurse Dom 69
18 yummi 68
19 Aurelius 66
20 (moonrunes#1) 65
21 (moonrunes#2) 64
22 AXSXCE 64
23 Slashley 56
24 alex 49
25 Alyssa 41
26 Whale 38
27 Cyler 36
28 MagicSpice 35
29 Artur 12Wind:
01 AsD2038 109
02 yummi 107
03 AXSXCE 104
04 msn06s 102
05 Arrow 97
06 Alyssa 97
07 Char Aznable 93
08 666 90
09 VERYVOODOO 90
10 SwampyKong 89
11 keajo 85
12 (moonrunes#1) 81
13 Whale 80
14 mlw61520 79
15 Nurse Dom 78
16 Aurelius 78
17 Yion 71
18 J 71
19 hyugaricdeau 69
20 dreamlitz 69
21 (moonrunes#2) 69
22 ChaosPrince42 66
23 Slashley 66
24 Myth 64
25 alex 61
26 jasieknms 57
27 Cyler 38
28 MagicSpice 25
29 Artur 16
Dark:
01 mlw61520 128
02 Artur 113
03 msn06s 105
04 666 102
05 VERYVOODOO 102
06 keajo 102
07 J 102
08 Whale 93
09 AsD2038 91
10 hyugaricdeau 91
11 dreamlitz 87
12 (moonrunes#2) 87
13 Alyssa 84
14 (moonrunes#1) 83
15 AXSXCE 81
16 SwampyKong 81
17 Slashley 81
18 Nurse Dom 79
19 Char Aznable 78
20 ChaosPrince42 76
21 Myth 74
22 Yion 70
23 Arrow 69
24 alex 65
25 Aurelius 63
26 yummi 58
27 jasieknms 58
28 Cyler 56
29 MagicSpice 47
Light:
01 666 120
02 dreamlitz 114
03 Cyler 114
04 MagicSpice 108
05 Nurse Dom 106
06 alex 101
07 Myth 100
08 Whale 98
09 hyugaricdeau 95
10 VERYVOODOO 94
11 keajo 93
12 AXSXCE 91
13 AsD2038 89
14 (moonrunes#2) 88
15 (moonrunes#1) 84
16 mlw61520 83
17 SwampyKong 80
18 Char Aznable 80
19 Yion 78
20 Aurelius 76
21 ChaosPrince42 75
22 J 74
23 msn06s 71
24 Arrow 63
25 Slashley 59
26 Alyssa 48
27 jasieknms 46
28 yummi 36
29 Artur 11

Slashley

06-13-2021, 10:57 AM

10th Skill Checker-kun is here.

You have 12 turns. Elemental advantage only. Debuffs apply, ALL of them. Rages and Stuns quickly. This time, Skill Checker-kun does VERY little damage back to you, so you can mostly fight him in peace. Might combo attack one character for a lot in the final turns if you didn't bring any Atk-.

The real quirk this time around is normal attack damage. I don't... fully understand how it works. I think you deal double normal attack damage, and cap is double of normal (700k?). But I think if you go above cap, your damage is only reduced by 50% instead of the usual 90%? I... really don't understand the numbers here. It's WEIRD. All I know is, you can get some INSANE normal attacks if you just pump the fuck up on modifiers, such as Assault, Vigor, Berserk and Byakko. And Technica, if you somehow have some of that in your Grid.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I guess I should mention is that weaker players might find Full Bursts better than normal attacks. Remember, the maximum damage you can do with Full Bursts is around 3.5m per character, which is still quite a lot. But the strong players will probably ignore Bursts entirely unless they are needed for certain Hime Burst effects. I mean, my Perkele did 6m by herself during one turn...

Parac is obviously the only correct choice here (unless you simply cannot reach -50% Def, in which case I guess you need to rely on Paras). Make sure you run her BERSERK, as it's a ridiculous damage boost this time around. There are also very extremely powerful normal attack Hime, like Thanatos in Dark - so there are absolutely some core Hime in each element (HA HA WIND ATUM GO GET MORE BERSERK FROM PARAC), but overall there should be quite a lot of leeway in teams this time around.

Slashley

06-27-2021, 11:35 AM

So, the tenth Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Total:

01. (moonrunes)#1 1814m [452H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
02. (moonrunes)#2 1520m [520H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. Arrow 1476m [411H] (Gacha)
04. SwampyKong 1468m [430H] (DarkHell)
05. AsD2038 1463m [413H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. (moonrunes)#3 1412m [433H] (20something)
07. Ebisu 1402m [418H] (IronBlades)
08. hyugaricdeau 1388m [446H] (TsukiKishi)
09. Myth 1379m [417H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
10. J 1360m [380H] (TsukiKishi)
11. Nurse Dom 1342m [383H] (TsukiKishi)
12. Skybullet 1321m [402H] (ToF)
13. dreamlitz 1316m [373H] (Nonsense)
14. msn06s 1313m [428H] (Isekai)
15. Char Aznable 1301m [375H] (Lalka-Doll)
16. keajo 1239m [413H] (RedPhantom)
17. AXSXCE 1236m [420H] (RedPhantom)
18. mlw61520 1231m [392H] (DarkHell)
19. VERYVOODOO 1230m [366H] (Ixion)
20. Caje 1227m [376H] ((moonrunes))
21. ?
22. (moonrunes)#4 1209m [372H] (20something)
23. Slashley 1198m [380H] (Isekai)
...
26. Machis Pengy 1172m [366H] (DarkHell)
...
31. Faust 1123m [405H] (CybeastV15)
...
39. (moonrunes)#5 1085m [381H] (Weeb Wanks)
...
47. Alyssa 1030m [317H] (TsukiKishi)
...
72. naz1212 951m [375H] (20something)
[H stands in for Hime count.]Highest:

01. (moonrunes)#1 358m, Water [ 80H] Parac-Vohu-Februus-Dadga-Aphrodite (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
02. SwampyKong 311m, Fire [ G] Parac-Dakki-Dian-Dadga-Mars (DarkHell)
03. (moonrunes)#2 309m, Thunder [160e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Arianrod-Anshar (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
04. msn06s 285m, Wind [160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Vohu (Isekai)
05. AsD2038 282m, Fire [ G] Parac-Dakki-Dian-Dadga-Mars (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. Arrow 274m, Thunder [120e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar (Gacha)
07. (moonrunes)#3 266m, Light [ G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey (20something)
08. Ebisu 264m, Fire [155e] Parac-Yamaraja-Dian-Dadga-Mars (IronBlades)
09. mlw61520 264m, Dark [120e] Parac-Thanatos-Takemikata-DWU-Nyarl(SSR) (DarkHell)
10. J 261m, Thunder [160e] Parac-Baal-Aphrodite-Ymir-Marduk (TsukiKishi)
11. Machis Pengy 258m, Light [ G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey (DarkHell)
12. Faust 257m, Water [120e] Parac-Cybele-Asherah-Dadga-Chernobog (CybeastV15)
13. Myth 255m, Wind [155e] Parac-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Vohu (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
14. naz1212 254m, Water [120e] Parac-Vohu-Pluto-Dadga-Chernobog (20something)
15. AXSXCE 253m, Wind [160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (RedPhantom)
16. Alyssa 253m, Wind [140e] Parac-Frigg-Azazel-Atum-Vohu (TsukiKishi)
17. (moonrunes)#4 253m, Wind [160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Hastur (20something)
18. (moonrunes)#5 251m, Thunder [120e] Parac-Aphrodite-Ymir-Marduk-Anshar (Weeb Wanks)
19. Nurse Dom 251m, Water [160e] Parac-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Dadga (TsukiKishi)
20. Char Aznable 251m, Water [160e] Parac-Neptune-Pluto-Dadga-Aphrodite (Lalka-Doll)
21. dreamlitz 249m, Light [ G] Parac-Iris-Michiru-Baal-Shiva (Nonsense)
22. ?
23. hyugaricdeau 248m, Fire [160e] Parac-Dian-Tish-Dadga-Mars (TsukiKishi)
24. Caje 245m, Water [160e] Parac-Vohu-Februus-Dadga-Aphrodite ((moonrunes))
25. Skybullet 244m, Light [ G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey (ToF)
...
30. Slashley 240m, Thunder [160e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar (Isekai)
...
44. VERYVOODOO 231m, Thunder [ G] Parac-Baal-Ymir-Marduk-Perkele (Ixion)
...
47. keajo 230m, Water [ G] Parac-Vohu-Shiva-Dadga-Aphrodite (RedPhantom)

[e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian, H for Heavenly Disaster.]Per element:
Water
01 (moonrunes)#1 358
02 AsD2038 270
03 Arrow 265
04 Faust 257
05 SwampyKong 255
06 naz1212 254
07 NurseDom 251
08 CharAznable 251
09 Ebisu 247
10 Caje 245
11 J 242
12 Skybullet 237
13 Myth 234
14 (moonrunes)#2 232
15 keajo 230
16 (moonrunes)#3 227
17 dreamlitz 224
18 (moonrunes)#4 222
19 VERYVOODOO 214
20 msn06s 213
21 mlw61520 213
22 hyugaricdeau 205
23 AXSXCE 199
24 (moonrunes)#5 197
25 Slashley 196
26 MachisPengy 167
27 Alyssa 160Thunder
01 (moonrunes)#2 309
02 (moonrunes)#1 304
03 Arrow 274
04 J 261
05 SwampyKong 256
06 (moonrunes)#5 251
07 AsD2038 247
08 Slashley 240
09 (moonrunes)#3 237
10 hyugaricdeau 237
11 Ebisu 235
12 VERYVOODOO 231
13 NurseDom 229
14 dreamlitz 229
15 CharAznable 228
16 msn06s 223
17 Myth 219
18 AXSXCE 216
19 mlw61520 212
20 (moonrunes)#4 209
21 Skybullet 202
22 keajo 201
23 Caje 198
24 MachisPengy 155
25 Faust 153
26 Alyssa 131
27 naz1212 103Fire
01 (moonrunes)#2 256
02 (moonrunes)#1 335
03 Arrow 264
04 J 228
05 SwampyKong 311
06 (moonrunes)#5 147
07 AsD2038 282
08 Slashley 180
09 (moonrunes)#3 228
10 hyugaricdeau 248
11 Ebisu 264
12 VERYVOODOO 166
13 NurseDom 209
14 dreamlitz 187
15 CharAznable 197
16 msn06s 206
17 Myth 238
18 AXSXCE 186
19 mlw61520 178
20 (moonrunes)#4 164
21 Skybullet 190
22 keajo 202
23 Caje 169
24 MachisPengy 145
25 Faust 162
26 Alyssa 156
27 naz1212 205Wind
01 (moonrunes)#1 290
02 msn06s 285
03 Arrow 270
04 AsD2038 266
05 Myth 255
06 AXSXCE 253
07 (moonrunes)#4 253
08 Alyssa 253
09 dreamlitz 242
10 MachisPengy 242
11 CharAznable 236
12 hyugaricdeau 235
13 (moonrunes)#3 234
14 (moonrunes)#2 232
15 SwampyKong 232
16 Skybullet 231
17 Ebisu 229
18 Slashley 225
19 VERYVOODOO 225
20 NurseDom 223
21 Caje 218
22 mlw61520 209
23 keajo 203
24 J 196
25 (moonrunes)#5 190
26 Faust 165
27 naz1212 129Dark
01 mlw61520 264
02 J 254
03 (moonrunes)#1 252
04 Ebisu 240
05 SwampyKong 238
06 (moonrunes)#2 236
07 msn06s 234
08 VERYVOODOO 226
09 Faust 225
10 hyugaricdeau 224
11 (moonrunes)#4 221
12 AsD2038 218
13 (moonrunes)#3 218
14 Slashley 217
15 keajo 217
16 Skybullet 214
17 AXSXCE 209
18 Arrow 205
19 CharAznable 205
20 MachisPengy 203
21 NurseDom 201
22 Myth 199
23 Alyssa 198
24 Caje 192
25 dreamlitz 182
26 (moonrunes)#5 168
27 naz1212 135Light
01 (moonrunes)#1 272
02 (moonrunes)#3 266
03 MachisPengy 258
04 (moonrunes)#2 253
05 dreamlitz 249
06 Skybullet 244
07 hyugaricdeau 236
08 Myth 231
09 NurseDom 227
10 Caje 203
11 Arrow 194
12 Ebisu 185
13 keajo 184
14 CharAznable 182
15 AsD2038 177
16 J 175
17 SwampyKong 173
18 AXSXCE 170
19 VERYVOODOO 165
20 Faust 159
21 mlw61520 152
22 msn06s 149
23 (moonrunes)#4 137
24 Slashley 137
25 Alyssa 129
26 (moonrunes)#5 129
27 naz1212 123Good work, everyone.

Overall it was a fairly interesting one. Although there were some extreme core Hime like Wind Atum or Ymir, there were quite a lot of different teams which just worked.

Not entirely sure why Hagith was so popular for Light teams again. Needing to pick Managarmr for the big combo+ on turn1 makes a lot of sense, but I guess they had lots of Technica from somewhere for Hagith to be better than a second Managarmr...?

Looking at those scores, I think I forgot to redo my Water with a Berserk build, ha ha! Oh well, nothing important was lost.

Slashley

08-12-2021, 12:37 PM

11th Skill Checker-kun is here.

You have 7 turns. Elemental advantage only. Debuffs apply, except for Para/Charm/that stuff (no dodging those debuffs!). No ODs, Rage or Stun. Has HIGH Def again, so the thing applies as last time that happened: whale scores will be significantly higher than yours. See this post#186 point 3. (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/5102-guild-games-megathread-post156210.html#post156210) for why if you don't remember.

The quirk this time around are the debuffs. Here is what is done this time:
1st turn: Atk- and Def- (does not expire, can be Cleansed or Prevented)
3rd turn: Burst Gain- (-70%) (does not expire, can be Cleansed or Prevented)
5th turn: Ability Seal (does not expire, can be Cleansed or Prevented)
Other turns: AoE damage.

You need to deal with that Atk-, and you need to be done with your bursts shortly after that Burst Gain- or you will not be doing shit. The Ability Seal isn't all that bad usually, since well, it only applies to two turns, and good abilities rarely have 4-5 turn CD. It would prevent Medea CD reduction builds, but this is a Yori event anyway.

In any event, Awakened Eros is seeing a lot of action even outside of Light. She is especially amazing if you can FB on turn2 so that you can prevent that massive burst gain loss (and in fact, that's pretty much required if you don't have Northern Star Lord). Furthermore, she keeps refreshing her 2000 Barrier, which means that she keeps your team healthy for Vigor despite the constant AoE spam. Using one off-element Hime is obviously a massive hit to your direct damage output, but it looks like most elements can make use out of her. And THAT is impressive.

Slashley

08-27-2021, 09:47 AM

So, the 11th Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Total:

01. (moonrunes)#1 490m [H] ()
02. (moonrunes)#2 483m [H] ()
03. Myth 469m [H] ()
04. LLLLLL 458m [H] ()
05. Arrow 452m [H] ()
06. SwampyKong 428m [H] ()
07. Char Aznable 422m [H] ()
08. AsD2038 416m [H] ()
09. dreamlitz 393m [H] ()
10. yummi 384m [H] ()
11. keajo 380m [H] ()
12. mlw61520 375m [H] ()
13. Linkin Park 364m [H] ()
14. AXSXCE 360m [H] ()
15. J 355m [H] ()
16. HuanyKinet 347m [H] ()
17. Nurse Dom 347m [H] ()
18. alex 345m [H] ()
19. Ayamechan 336m [H] ()
20. Skybullet 331m [H] ()
...
43. Slashley 286m [H] (Isekai)
...
167. MagicSpice 167m [H] ()Highest:

01. (moonrunes)#1 102m, Light [e] ()
02. yummi 100m, Wind [e] ()
03. yummi 99m, Light [e] ()
04. LLLLLL 99m, Light [e] ()
05. (moonrunes)#2 97m, Fire [e] ()
06. Cyler 97m, Light [e] ()
07. Myth 95m, Light [e] ()
08. SkyBullet 92m, Light [e] ()
09. jasieknms 90m, Water [e] ()
10. HuanyKinet 88m, Light [e] ()
11. alex 87m, Light [e] ()
12. SwampyKong 87m, Fire [e] ()
13. MagicSpice 85m, Light [e] ()
14. Arrow 84m, Water [e] ()
15. Ayamechan 84m, Light [e] ()
16. keajo 83m, Light [e] ()
17. Akiba 82m, Wind [e] ()
18. mlw61520 82m, Dark [e] ()
19. baka123 82m, Light [e] ()
20. Caldernaji 81m, Water [e] ()
...
57. Slashley 63m, Thunder [e] (Isekai)Good work, everyone.

It was actually a pretty interesting Skill Checker. Much, much better than then most common "10+ turns, spam those NSLs LOL" ones. Despite of this, I couldn't be bothered to look up and write teamcomps, Unions, Himecounts or primary Eidolons used.

Personally, I did all elements once(*) and was done. Thanks to day1 of free pulls handing me NSL, I ranked alright, I guess.
(*) I did Fire twice, since I forgot two things: that Heavenly Fire Disaster existed, and that I would need to bring Cleanse/Prevention. I also did Thunder a second time after I saw how many people were using off-element Eros, but it didn't work out at all due to lost synergies.