Olympian Spirit [Guardian Angel] Raids

[Kitty]

Thanks to JStar for help! <br />
as most of us know last year we were introduced to the incredibly over powered raid battles known as the Guardian battles. <br />
I'll be summarizing up their battles in as...

[Laventale]

Sounds like a HUGE pain in the ass.

[Kitty]

Sounds like a HUGE pain in the ass.

just like anal ha ha ha ha ha funnie

[Geo]

What do we get for killing them?

[Slashley]

What do we get for killing them?Effectively T3 Regalia, which I think we can swap along with Regalia and T2 Regalia (Magnas) into... uuuh, SSR weapon or SSR Eidolon? Or something.

I don't even know, honestly. But you can look it up from the DMM wiki!

[Kitty]

I'll be posting it later on. SSR weps drop, there are 3 types for each element.

[dreamlitz]

Effectively T3 Regalia, which I think we can swap along with Regalia and T2 Regalia (Magnas) into... uuuh, SSR weapon or SSR Eidolon? Or something.

I don't even know, honestly. But you can look it up from the DMM wiki!

150 magna + 300 guard mats = MLB guardian eido - they have good stats, generally strong actives, and very good passive if you have a good grid - its bonus is 40% of weapon skills in your grid that matches the guardian's element (e.g. if you have 100% assault, it'll give you an additional 40% assault.) If you're like me and dun have a 100% eido, you'll want to farm an MLB guard eido.

175 guard mats = MLB guardian weapon - generally very good weapons with some triple skills weapons. They can't be FLB-ed though, so it's more to replace event weapons with no FLB. My understanding is that unlike the eidolon, the shop resets every month for weapons, so you can farm 1 MLB copy every month, which makes it easier to fill up a phantom grid with decent weapons without spending a ton of bricks.

[Kitty]

doooooooone

[Nik]

This update seems pretty f2p friendly. Those idols are giving dope stats.

[Unregistered]

I'm not sure I'm blind or not but does it cost anything to host a raid?
Anyway I wonder if we could actually deal well with these girl......They are so good but so hard to kill at the same time

[Slashley]

Why does JStar use stuff like "sprout/avalanche/slug/stalwart/etc" for weapons? At least I know what the fuck Avalanche is thanks to Phantom Sword. Use goddamn "Double/Triple" instead of that shit so that people can actually understand what the fuck those things do.
175 guard mats = MLB guardian weapon - generally very good weapons with some triple skills weapons. They can't be FLB-ed though, so it's more to replace event weapons with no FLB. My understanding is that unlike the eidolon, the shop resets every month for weapons, so you can farm 1 MLB copy every month, which makes it easier to fill up a phantom grid with decent weapons without spending a ton of bricks.That depends on the droprate. Because if it's the same as Magnas, then it's no fucking joke to get 175 Magnas per month (per element). That's some Voodoo level shit right there.

But speaking of the Eidolons, their skill only applies to the normal three skill types of THAT element, right? So for Dark, it's Dark (), Abyss (+) and Schwarz (++)? So Soul weapons and Phantom weapon skills are not effected since they're not any of those types. It's still pretty good though.
I'm not sure I'm blind or not but does it cost anything to host a raid?3x Magnas each would be the logical conclusion. Oh yeah, have fun with that. Effectively that means that you need to fight in six Disasters Rags to host ONE, and then you'll have zero Magnas leftover.

Or! Or you can host 3x Disaster Rags for one! Which requires 9 Regalia to do! Which requires you to host ~6 Ultimates! Which requires about 18 T2 Cores! Since your daily income of T2 Cores is about 0-5 per day from Standards and Experts, that means you can host one Olympia raid every four days or so! YAAAAY SO MUCH FUUUU- yeah no, fuck that whole fucking system. Why the fuck do T2 Cores even exist anymore?

[Kitty]

Nothing wrong with using the specific names. I'll post what they are since JStar tells us what they all mean anyway. No need to hate on him, he's great~ My bad for not posting before.

[Slashley]

Nothing wrong with using the specific names. I'll post what they are since JStar tells us what they all mean anyway. No need to hate on him, he's great~ My bad for not posting before.So why do I need to look at one chart, to understand another chart? It is an unnecessary load of shit.

Give JStar my regards on that front, please.

[Kitty]

maybe just stop nitpicking and fucking bother to accept that someones just trying to help. jesus christ dude.

[Slashley]

maybe just stop nitpicking and fucking bother to accept that someones just trying to help. jesus christ dude.So, obvious improvements shouldn't be made? Come on now, that's not how it works. Or at the very least, that's not how things are supposed to work.

I have no contact with him, so please pass the message on. Thanks.

[Kitty]

I literally don't understand what you're talking about. no improvements need to be made??? his guide has literally all the information you could need.
You just need to stop being lazy and expecting everyone to dumb everything down so it's easier for you to understand. not going to waste my time arguing over something like this anyway. not my problem.

[Slashley]

I literally don't understand what you're talking about. no improvements need to be made??? his guide has literally all the information you could need.
You just need to stop being lazy and expecting everyone to dumb everything down so it's easier for you to understand. not going to waste my time arguing over something like this anyway. not my problem.It's not rocket science. You shouldn't need to use a spreadsheet(2) to understand another spreadsheet(1). Just like you shouldn't need to have a spreadsheet(3) to understand a spreadsheet(2) that allows you to understand a spreadsheet(1). Or having a spreadsheet(4) that you need to understand spreadsheet(3) that allows you to understand spreadsheet(2) so that you can understand the spreadsheet(1), the one that you actually want to understand.

If required information can be compressed, it should be compressed. We can't unpack it all the way (such as using "Defender" over "HP" is silly as there is only one meaning for both of the words, but using "Atk" over "Assault" is more difficult due to your damage comes from multiple factors), but we can do what we can do. In other words, what we can do is change things like "Avalanche" into "Triple/Double"

So, just be a good little boy and pass the message, since you're obviously in some contact with him.

[Kitty]

lmao ur so sad. cute that you still think i'm a boy just bc you dislike me.
and JStar told you to fuck off. : )
also it literally says ASSAULT in the game.
says DEFENDER in the game.
you, and everyone else knows what it means if you actually fucking play the game.

you can stop commenting now. just let people who appreciate help and/or have positive feedback or actual helpful suggestions
like, come on now lmao no need cause drama just for the sake of well causing drama.

[Slashley]

lmao ur so sad. cute that you still think i'm a boy just bc you dislike me.
and JStar told you to fuck off. : )Well, thanks for trying, at least.

[dreamlitz]

That depends on the droprate. Because if it's the same as Magnas, then it's no fucking joke to get 175 Magnas per month (per element). That's some Voodoo level shit right there.

That's true, sometimes I forget that not everyone is planning to farm 300 of the new mats in the first month... (yes, I'm pretty desperate to close the power gap for not having fluffy; I already have a team for fighting Hagith planned, though if it goes anything like my lrag teams, it'll require many revisions...)

At least the weapons are farmable though, and if you aren't in a hurry, first copy each month only costs 20, which is totally doable just by leeching.


But speaking of the Eidolons, their skill only applies to the normal three skill types of THAT element, right? So for Dark, it's Dark (), Abyss (+) and Schwarz (++)? So Soul weapons and Phantom weapon skills are not effected since they're not any of those types. It's still pretty good though.

Correct, or at least that is my understanding. You won't have more than 1 soul and phantom weapon in a grid so it should still work for the other 8 weapons. It also works with stuff like exceed and ascension as well if I'm not mistaken, so if you have a lot of double/triple skill weapons in your grid, these eidos are both powerful and flexible, 'cos you can mess around with your weapons grid and the eido just scales everything up.

Beginners won't find them useful 'cos at like 117% assault for full disaster grid, it's only like 46.8% assault from the eido, which is like worse than LB0 char atk gacha eido. But then again, beginners won't be farming these raids, so =P They can look forward to epic quests anyway for good starting eidos.


3x Magnas each would be the logical conclusion.

I thought it's still 3 regalia? Can any DMM players verify? I thought I read somewhere that it's just 3 regalia, so my plan was to farm up 150 magna, then switch to farming the guardians in terms of hosting.

If it's 3 magna, I'm gonna give up on getting Hagith right now...

[Kitty]

It's 3 regalia. NOT Magmas.

[ArchAngel]

I'm not sure I'm blind or not but does it cost anything to host a raid?
Anyway I wonder if we could actually deal well with these girl......They are so good but so hard to kill at the same time

Ofc only Phantom raid don't cost anything,they are mostly long raids just to waste more time from your life(and to pay more for some OP himes,it's a nice motivation lulz),at start also drop rate beyond shit,just like Rags now here in nutaku ..they will buff it later thank god

[Rohtang]

Questions.
How to unlock more copies of Och [Phantom]? The first one can get basically for free by defeating any other Guardians for the first time and clear Och [Phantom].
Does her regalia/orb drops is extremely rare? Or some other special requirements.

I just recently pass lv 100 and done almost everything but trying to MLB Och [Phantom] still eludes me at DMM.

[seorizuki]

Questions.
How to unlock more copies of Och [Phantom]? The first one can get basically for free by defeating any other Guardians for the first time and clear Och [Phantom].
Does her regalia/orb drops is extremely rare? Or some other special requirements.

I just recently pass lv 100 and done almost everything but trying to MLB Och [Phantom] still eludes me at DMM.
its a rare drop
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[Rohtang]

Ok, thanks for the info. Gonna raid those raids more then.

[Chrestomancy]

We're expecting this next week now? I'm mostly hoping to find out what the Magna drop rate is, the drop rate on current Ragnarok raids is so low I'm unlikely to see a MLB Guardian Eidolon until 2021, and that's only if I give up on accessory unlocks. I've completed around 400 Ragnarok raids, probably another couple hundred that failed (need to get better at checking "time remaining" before joining...) "Scaling up" my farming is really not an option.

[JJJ]

Hi, i was wondering about the dark gun and some kami weapons, it says dark element Atk up, does this mean it's on the same frame like the soul weapons or is it just improperly translated and all weapons are just character atk?

Thanks

[Slashley]

Hi, i was wondering about the dark gun and some kami weapons, it says dark element Atk up, does this mean it's on the same frame like the soul weapons or is it just improperly translated and all weapons are just character atk?

ThanksOnly Soul weapons are Elemental, yes. The Dark Gun for example is Pride(++)/HP/Assault, so that's double Character Atk.

[Kitty]

ayy Bethor is out.