PDA

View Full Version : Andro Support Build - For Raid Farming



QXZ
10-06-2019, 02:48 AM
TL;DR - Andro Support Build is a build for lazy farmers who wants to AAB the hardest raids in game.

What is Andro Support Build and Who uses it?
Andro Support Build (ASB) is a zero damage build for raids. You are leeching from other players. Why? Because leeching is one of the fastest way to to farm, especially if you can't MVP the content - especially outside of burst hour. If you have over 1,000 seeds unused, consider using the ASB to reduce inventory and grab some loot along the way. Here are some additional reasons why you might want to use the ASB.

1. You are a new player or you are working on a new grid
2. You are trying to farm Ragnarok or Guardian level raids
3. You have over 1,000 seeds unused
4. You want to farm outside of burst hour
5. You want a build that can AAB while you are doing other stuff like writing guides on HBC

What does an ASB look like?

Example of ASB
13021
13022

What does an ASB do?
ASB supports the team. The priorities are:

1. Raid-wide healing
2. Raid-wide DEF UP and/or DMG CUT
3. Raid-wide dispel
4. Black propaganda on enemies
5. Dispel on enemies
6. Stacking certain debuffs like Agaliarept's Analysis
7. ATK/DEF DOWN on enemies

Why is ATK/DEF DOWN last on the priorities? Why are others so important?
Because in a raid, someone else probably already brought ATK/DEF debuffs so you don't have to. And because many raid bosses have powerful buffs (DMG CUT) or debuffs (ie paralysis) and the best way to deal with them is dispel the boss or dispel your teammates - which NO ONE ELSE wants to bring, so you should bring these skills.

How to play ASB effectively?
Ideally you want to join an active union that uses discord. If you cant, go ask around and get invited to the discord of an active union - without actually joining the union. Why would they want a leecher like you? Because you will open the raids for them - which is limited 3x per day per element AND you will let them take the MVP. In exchange they will add you to their friend list and let you leech off their raids.

Next, you want to take part of as many raids as possible - the max is 3 simultaneous raids. For each raid you join, use an offensive ability once, as the game requires you to deal damage to receive loot. You should also use Andro's defensive buff and possibly her healing and dispel if you suspect your allies may need it.

Next, go back the first raid, your allies needs your help. Whack the enemy once or twice and turn on AAB.

Go watch videos or something. Come back when the raid is over. Rinse and repeat.

What element, himes, eidos and wpn should I use?
Primarily light, because light has access to a lot of healing and defensive himes, and a ton of weapons with Ascension (+Recovery) bonuses. There is no such thing as too much healing or too many dispels (on the boss). Also, there is no need for you to deal damage, so don't even bother.

For weapons, your priorities are: Ascension > Defender. Also nice to have are Grace and Protect. Light has easy access to these types of wpns, which are usually staves.

Also, when possible, your final hime should be a boss counter. Examples are:
1. Agaliarept counters Light - due to Analysis helps your teammates.
2. Raphael counters Dark - due to her Dizzy and BP is the only effective counter against bosses that relies on abilities
3. Prometheus counters Wind - due to her Wind DMG debuff, paralysis and BP
4. Water - N/A - probably Poseidon to reduce your dmg
5. Thunder - N/A - well.... there is Thor, if you manage to land her para. Or Raiko to reduce your dmg.
6. Wind - N/A - probably Gaia for defense.

For eidos, use Meng Huo (40% HP) or the guardian eido, which together with Defender wpns, will still give you ~40% HP

Important things to know, to avoid getting kicked out

1. It is crucial that you have strong allies. Since you deal no damage, they have to be able to take down the boss without you.
2. It is crucial that you speak with your raid party in discord and ask what they want you to bring.
3. It is crucial to not AAB on certain bosses in order to avoid triggering their mechanic and piss off your allies. Example - Light Ragnarok triggers raging on turn 7.
(This becomes less of a problem in Dec 2019 when the mechanics are softened up and less punishing)
4. Only share the raid with Friends and Union members to avoid lag or inviting idiots who trigger the boss.

Slashley
10-06-2019, 08:18 AM
Nice post. I approve.
For weapons, your priorities are: Ascension > Defender. Also nice to have are Grace and Protect. Light has easy access to these types of wpns, which are usually staves.I only want to nitpick about this.

Do they have easy access to these? From where?
Since if somebody has Ye Olde Pride events, they have access to good Ascension weapons sure. But... those players can probably carry. So, how do newer players get their hands on that stuff?

QXZ
10-06-2019, 10:59 AM
for really really really new players who just got Andro (or just Cassiopia - because you need her to unlock D'Art anyway), they can get ori wpns, which only cost 1 ori each and has unlimited stock. They are not great wpns but it does come with assault, so it can help a new player who doesnt have a full grid and needed the ATK for solo contents - which is needed to obtain mats for the ULT/RAG raids.

Light Ascension wpn (https://kamihime-project.fandom.com/wiki/Brilliance_Glaive_Auricalcum)
Water Ascension wpn (https://kamihime-project.fandom.com/wiki/Zero_Freeze_Hammer_Auricalcum)

Getting 1 ori per GO is easily attainable - completing these gives you 6 pts - enuf for 1 ori.
Week 1
Challenge GO 3 times.
Challenge GO 5 times.
Clear stage 1 3 times.
Clear stage 2 3 times.
Week 2
Challenge GO 5 times.
Clear stage 2 3 times.

Getting Grace or Protect is actually easier, since joining any RAG raids has a chance to drop the phantom, and if you are spamming a ton of seeds, you will get them eventually.

dreamlitz
10-06-2019, 09:11 PM
for really really really new players who just got Andro (or just Cassiopia - because you need her to unlock D'Art anyway), they can get ori wpns, which only cost 1 ori each and has unlimited stock. They are not great wpns but it does come with assault, so it can help a new player who doesnt have a full grid and needed the ATK for solo contents - which is needed to obtain mats for the ULT/RAG raids.

So I'm not the only crazy person that burns ori for Andro builds.

Anyway, ori-exclusive weapons are limited to 4 per person unfortunately, they do NOT restock. So if you intend to build your ascension grid that way, leave them at LB0, which means absolutely horrendous stats, but your role isn't dealing dmg anyway. Also, only the light one comes with assault. The water one comes with defender, which is a better fit for Andro builds imo.

Also, zero dmg Andro builds aren't completely useless outside of raids. A good number of GO can be AAB-ed using them (might take you almost an hour to clear, but you can just start it and literally go to bed; as long as Nike does not interfere, it'll clear when you wake up.) Example here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7EWIxMgCTs
If you're patient, you can also clear 15F tower with them:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSrC08c_RtY


Getting Grace or Protect is actually easier, since joining any RAG raids has a chance to drop the phantom, and if you are spamming a ton of seeds, you will get them eventually.

You need 5 staffs or arcanes (Protect is rampart right?) to activate their respective phantom weapons though, which might be a problem depending on what events you have missed. Or if you've been hoarding random SR or even R weapons like me, you can build a grid out of those, too (see my 15F tower clear above for an example.)

QXZ
10-06-2019, 10:30 PM
that tower 15F takes the cake. very impressed bro. very well done!