Seraph Union Megathread

[Kitty]

Ah finally onto the new Union Events, which aren't as frequent, thankfully... for some at least. <br />
As all the Megathreads I do, I won't go into too much detail but I'll try to summarize it easily to...

[Slashley]

... why is this pinned? We have way too many pinned threads again. Honestly, we only need like... two.
Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A
(New) Rules & Updates + Directory

... actually, even Q&A is quite unnecessary, it'll stick to the top anyway.

[Kitty]

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damn you never have anything positive to say lmao
all the megathreads are pinned for a reason, because they're important for the future lol.
i can always just delete it and let you guys figure shit out by yourself if all you wanna do is bitch n moan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

there ur highness i unpinned 2 threads.

the haru + wild hunt ones are basically the current events so they're obviously staying.

[slade13]

are these the events where weapon skills with extra large assault appears

[Kitty]

are these the events where weapon skills with extra large assault appears

yup! I'll get to that later along with the kamihimes : )

[Geo]

This Seraph Event is so... lacking...

I decided I don't care about the Defender weapon, so at least my grind will stop at only 75 expert kills, 150 ultimate kills, 10 million Union PP, which is enough to get alll the Assault weapons.

At least by the weekend I can go back to farming disaster Raids instead lol

[Satou]

I kinda missed Lilim/Demon battles, they were better than Assault / Defender ++++ imo

[dreamlitz]

This is just me but I won't ignore the defender weapons completely. You never know if gacha will troll you and drop you a bunch of weapons to push you to another phantom grid, only to find out that you're one weapon short.

Depending on play style, 30% defender is also actually not terrible if you have an otherwise glass cannon build like Ophiel lance grid or something.

This is extremely niche, but if you want to do infinite turtling for fire tower, you'll most likely want this seraph defender hammer especially if you missed Monoceros like I did.

[Geo]

As you said, Dreamlitz. The Defender weapon has its niche uses, ok.

I just don't see myself grinding this event for it the same way I did against Lilims and Demons.

The Assault weapon is quite decent though.

[Slashley]

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This is extremely niche, but if you want to do infinite turtling for fire tower, you'll most likely want this seraph defender hammer especially if you missed Monoceros like I did.How would this complete piece of garbage weapon help you to infinitely turtle Fire Tower.

And why would you even want to.

[dreamlitz]

How would this complete piece of garbage weapon help you to infinitely turtle Fire Tower.

I need it to complete my water hammer ascension grid, it's either this or a SR hammer, 'cos that's all I have. SR defender hammer is strictly inferior to seraph hammer, and SR assault hammer will hit slightly harder (higher assault but lower stats) but I prefer higher HP in turtle builds for safety.


And why would you even want to.

'cos my water grid absolutely sucks, but I want to clear the higher floors for those sweet sweet bricks. I mean, I could go off-element I guess, but I'll lose a lot of medals that way.

[Slashley]

I need it to complete my water hammer ascension grid, it's either this or a SR hammer, 'cos that's all I have. SR defender hammer is strictly inferior to seraph hammer, and SR assault hammer will hit slightly harder (higher assault but lower stats) but I prefer higher HP in turtle builds for safety.That "need" is a bit of strong word, don't you think? You don't need a Phantom Hammer to run a Ascension Grid.

And putting a shitty weapon into a shitty Grid for a Phantom effect isn't going to do much, either. You're gaining 30% Assault and 30% HP (plus base stats on those Hammers) for the cost of 26% stats. Yeah, sure, it's an improvement. But it's not exactly anything groundbreaking, especially considering the complete waste of materials going into that Hammer.

[Geo]

Let me just say I am happy the Assault weapon was treated as the lesser prize.

[dreamlitz]

That "need" is a bit of strong word, don't you think? You don't need a Phantom Hammer to run a Ascension Grid.

Point taken. It's just a useful improvement.


Let me just say I am happy the Assault weapon was treated as the lesser prize.

Agreed, that one is definitely much more useful in general.

[Yukarichan]

This seraph is crazy hard ~.~

[Slashley]

This seraph is crazy hard ~.~It IS a Union event. It's not meant to be tackled alone - it's meant to be tackled with a Union.

I haven't even touched the event yet, though.

[Yukarichan]

It IS a Union event. It's not meant to be tackled alone - it's meant to be tackled with a Union.

I haven't even touched the event yet, though.

Compare to Demon UE, current seraph hit harder and have alot more HP.

[AutoCrimson]

exp / ult demons were (250k + 50k*lvl) hp / (500k + 125k*lvl) hp iirc, while exp / ult virtues are (500k + 150k*lvl) hp / (1kk + 300k*lvl) hp, so...

[Slashley]

Patience has ended.

Reminder that I am not going to make rankings anymore, so if anyone cares to know how the ranks ended up in the future, make your own list.

[Delete]

ULTIMATE RANKS, PATIENCE
Rank 1 Isekai (1104)
Rank 2 Susurrus (931)
Rank 3 Windsoughs (911)
Rank 4 DarkHell (822)
Rank 5 Ixion (800)
Rank 6 Drama Club (781)
Rank 7 ToF (719)
Rank 8 Akatsuki (715)
Rank 9 Weeb Wanks (658)
Rank 10 Amaterasu (604)
Rank 11 Khaos (516)
Rank 11 Axis Mundi (516)
Rank 13 Godtamers (511)
Rank 14 CYBEAST V7 (489)
Rank 15 Pandorika (483)
Rank 16 Perfection (480)
Rank 17 Stardust (473)
Rank 18 Nakama (436)
Rank 19 Death Lotus (433)
Rank 20 Kami Sutra (428)



I will try to post the Ultimate Ranks, but I'm not sure I will be able to. I'm not used to see my Union there, so I write Cybeast on caps :silly:

[w4rc3d]

Rank 15 Paprika (?) (483)

It's Пандорика.

[Delete]

Better now?

[Slashley]

Kindness has ended. Another reminder that I am not doing the rankings.

[Delete]

I suppose now that is my work, so...

Rank 1 Isekai (904)
Rank 2 WindSoughs (759)
Rank 3 Susurrus (719)
Rank 4 Akatsuki (717)
Rank 5 Weeb Wanks (679)
Rank 6 Drama Club (652)
Rank 7 ToF (628)
Rank 8 Ixion (615)
Rank 9 Khaos (592)
Rank 10 Perfection (566)
Rank 11 Amaterasu (514)
Rank 12 Dark Hell (508)
Rank 13 Pandorika (491)
Rank 13 Death Lotus (491)
Rank 15 Kami Sutra (470)
Rank 16 Cybeast v7 (453)
Rank 17 Axis Mundi (452)
Rank 18 "Chinese Name" (429)
Rank 19 Terminus (418)
Rank 20 Stardust (416)

[Jessa]

rank previous_rank guardian_id score a_union_id union_name union_rank union_member_count is_my_union
1 1 4 1520 45871 Isekai 5 30 false
2 2 4 1116 44605 Susurrus 5 25 false
3 3 3 1006 72070 WindSoughs 5 29 false
4 4 3 1000 970 =Akatsuki= 5 29 false
5 5 1 926 2485 Пандорика 5 30 false
6 6 4 856 29035 Weeb Wanks 5 30 false
7 7 4 845 23123 Ixion 5 28 false
8 8 3 801 40009 Amaterasu 5 23 false
9 9 3 794 2 Drama Club 5 29 false
10 10 3 791 34618 ToF 5 30 false
11 11 3 789 65112 DeathLotus 5 30 false
12 12 4 646 22 Axis Mundi 5 30 false
13 13 3 631 167 ĐarkĤell 5 28 false
14 14 3 614 59984 Waifu Hunt 5 29 false
15 15 3 607 5 Khaos 5 29 false
16 16 3 578 43357 Nakama 5 27 false
17 17 3 568 52158 Cybeast v7 5 30 false
18 18 3 561 993 Kami Sutra 5 27 false
19 19 3 556 49 Terminus 5 27 false
20 20 3 543 28412 Perfection 5 29 false

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Seraph Temperance, Ultimate Ranks

Rank 1 Isekai - 1005
Rank 2 Akatsuki - 760
Rank 3 Ixion - 712
Rank 4 Dark Hell - 710
Rank 5 Susurrus - 677
Rank 6 Weeb Wanks - 670
Rank 7 WindSoughs - 642
Rank 8 Stardust - 629
Rank 9 Khaos - 626
Rank 10 ToF - 619
Rank 11 Pandorika - 608
Rank 12 Amaterasu - 599
Rank 13 Death Lotus - 558
Rank 14 Cybeast v7 - 552
Rank 15 Axis Mundi - 547
Rank 16 Drama Club - 539
Rank 17 "Chinese Name" - 509
Rank 18 GodTamers - 506
Rank 19 Perfection - 468
Rank 20 Kami Sutra - 454

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Seraph Humility, Ultimate Ranks

Rank 1 Isekai - 1114
Rank 2 Ixion - 982
Rank 3 WindSoughs - 964
Rank 4 Akatsuki - 940
Rank 5 Weeb Wanks - 916
Rank 6 Amaterasu - 888
Rank 7 Dark Hell - 884
Rank 8 ToF - 843
Rank 9 Khaos - 826
Rank 10 Susurrus - 760
Rank 11 Drama Club - 719
Rank 12 Perfection - 685
Rank 13 Stardust - 673
Rank 14 Death Lotus - 639
Rank 15 Kami Sutra - 637
Rank 16 Cybeast v7 - 619
Rank 17 Red Phantom - 609
Rank 18 "Chinese Name" - 596
Rank 19 Gacha - 550
Rank 20 Axis Mundi - 542

[Slashley]

Har, it seems like Delete hasn't posted rankings for... uh, the past 18 months or so. Oh well.

So since Demons are back, I guess it's time to make the list again. This might be the thread for Angel events, but whatever, right?
Envy#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
Experts:
01. ToF 1921
02. Isekai 1867
03. Weeb Wanks 1812
04. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 1803
05. Susurrus 1480
06. (moonrunes) 1472
07. DarkHell 1332
08. Latam Bond 1244
09. CybeastV15 1213
10. WindSoughs 1198
11. 20something 1177
12. Ixion 1176
...
15. DeathLotus 1018
16. Khaos 1007
17. IronBlades 984
...
20. TsukiKishi 900
...
??. GlitterUltimates:
01. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 1437
02. Weeb Wanks 1398
03. DarkHell 1305
04. Isekai 1302
05. ToF 1295
06. (moonrunes) 1214
07. 20something 1173
08. CybeastV15 1107
09. Khaos 1050
10. DeathLotus 1020
11. WindSoughs 1019
12. TsukiKishi 1008
...
14. Glitter 926
...
16. Ixion 902
17. Susurrus 895
...
19. Latam Bond 874
...
??. IronBladesPP:
01. Lovemachine 278m (Isekai)
02. Varl 242m (CybeastV15)
03. msn06s 235m (Isekai)
04. Rebelshadow 231m (Isekai)
05. Democracy 230m (CybeastV15)
06. (moonrunes) 224m (IronBlades)
07. Chamomile 216m (Weeb Wanks)
08. Viktory 215m (Latam Bond)
09. Artur 212m (Khaos)
10. Skybullet 210m (ToF)
11. PPT 205m (20something)
12. PanTurtle 199m (Weeb Wanks)
13. AsD2038 194m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
14. Nurse Dom 191m (TsukiKishi)
15. Whale 174m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. akamula 170m (DarkHell)
17. Sugar 163m (WindSoughs)
18. VERYVOODOO 162m (Ixion)
19. Binbougami 162m (Isekai)
20. Chad 162m (Glitter)Good work, everyone.

[Slashley]

Pride#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Experts:
01. Isekai 2332
02. ToF 2303
03. 20something 2137
04. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 2024
05. Weeb Wanks 1887
06. Susurrus 1743
07. (moonrunes) 1703
08. WindSoughs 1506
09. CybeastV15 1411
10. Ragnarök 1266
11. TsukiKishi 1218
...
14. IronBlades 1145
...
16. DarkHell 1105
...
??. Drama ClubUltimates:
01. ToF 1559
02. Isekai 1497
03. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 1484
04. (moonrunes) 1472
05. Weeb Wanks 1359
06. 20something 1350
07. DarkHell 1160
08. CybeastV15 1139
09. DeathLotus 1080
10. TsukiKishi 1067
...
12. Susurrus 1014
13. WindSoughs 982
...
15. Drama Club 940
...
??. Ragnarök
??. IronBladesPP:

01. (moonrunes)#1 335m (IronBlades)
02. msn06s 316m (Isekai)
03. wallLand 274m (Weeb Wanks)
04. Lovemachine 263m (Isekai)
05. Artur 251m (Weeb Wanks)
06. Heaven 238m ((moonrunes))
07. Lucairian 231m (Isekai)
08. RNGabc 231m ((moonrunes))
09. Hinyu 229m (Drama Club)
10. Yion 226m (Isekai)
11. Gold 216m (Isekai)
12. Lilucky136 195m (Susurrus)
13. Sunimei 194m (ToF)
14. God of War 192m (Isekai)
15. AppleMint 191m (TsukiKishi)
16. WWWWWWWONISAN 186m (Weeb Wanks)
17. (moonrunes)#2 186m (20something)
18. Dunkirk 180m (20something)
19. FutonArizona 178m (ToF)
20. DbHuntzz 177m (ToF)Good work, everyone.

[Slashley]

So, Sloth#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
Experts:
Unknown. They updated the system for the next UE early, and since I didn't record them in the first 24 hours, the results were deleted.

Ultimates:
01. Isekai 1690
02. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 1663
03. Weeb Wanks 1634
04. ToF 1602
05. 20something 1578
06. (moonrunes) 1365
07. DeathLotus 1184
08. DarkHell 1171
09. CybeastV15 1167
10. TsukiKishi 1045

PP:
01. msn06s 472m (Isekai)
02. Ebisu 417m (IronBlades)
03. Gold 399m (Isekai)
04. Yion 389m (Isekai)
05. (moonrunes)#1 369m (Weeb Wanks)
06. Lovemachine 360m (Isekai)
07. God of War 277m (Isekai)
08. RNGabc 274m ((moonrunes))
09. Artur 273m (Weeb Wanks)
10. Skybullet 272m (ToF)
11. AppleMint 253m (TsukiKishi)
12. (moonrunes)#2 253m (20something)
13. AsD2038 250m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
14. (moonrunes)#3 243m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
15. Jeffey 227m (Susurrus)
16. Sunimei 225m (ToF)
17. Dunkirk 205m (20something)
18. Myth 202m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
19. Misanthropy 200m (DeathLotus)
20. WWWWONISAN 189m (Weeb Wanks)Good work, everyone.


Next Union Event will be updated. Probably most important change: only one push day! Hooray!

[Slashley]

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Unions:

01. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing) 3.8b
02. 20something 3.3b
03. Weeb Wanks 3.2b
04. ToF 3.0b
05. Isekai 2.9b
06. (moonrunes) 2.3b
07. DarkHell 2.1b
08. CybeastV15 2.0b
09. DeathLotus 1.7b
10. Susurrus 1.5b
...
13. Glitter 1.2b
...
16. TsukiKishi 1.1b
17. Пандорика (Pandorika) 1.0b
...
??. IronBlades

PP:


01. Lovemachine 490m (Isekai)
02. AsD2038 427m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. AppleMint 427m (TsukiKishi)
04. Yion 389m (Isekai)
05. God of War 371m (Isekai)
06. Heaven 369m ((moonrunes))
07. Ebisus 369m (IronBlades)
08. RidDick 362m (Пандорика (Pandorika))
09. Skybullet 344m (ToF)
10. Gold 325m (Isekai)
11. (moonrunes)#1 323m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
12. Democracy 315m (CybeastV15)
13. Artur 310m (Weeb Wanks)
14. AshenOne 306m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
15. WWWWONISAN 300m (Weeb Wanks)
16. (moonrunes)#2 287m (Weeb Wanks)
17. Char Aznable 286m (DarkHell)
18. Chad 283m (Glitter)
19. Jeffey 276m (Susurrus)
20. RNGabc 276m ((moonrunes))
For reference:
541. Slashley 28m (Isekai)
Good work, everyone. I guess.



Well then. This was an interesting one. Honestly? What a mess. Let's see if we can dig into this a bit.

As this was the first UE with Union Medal awards, DMM loosened up on their rewards. What I said in another thread (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/5291-event-140-och-raid-event-anticipation-thread-future-stuff.html):
- Personal rankings are 3500 Medals for 1-50, 51-100 3000, 2500 101-200, etc.
For us, the 3500 Medals was for top5. Heck, we had 1-5 (3500), 6-10 (3000), 11-15 (2500), 16-30 (2250), 31-50 (2000)... so we had FIVE brackets where DMM had ONE. Well, DMM is far, FAR more populated, so make no mistake - getting into top50 there is a COMPLETELY different story than in here. Nonetheless, they probably overshot that reward squish juuuuust a little bit.

Secondly, as this was the case on DMM, you now need 20m personal PP for full rewards. That's... ... that's no joke. That's up from 3.5m. And 20m is a HORRENDOUS amount for a person in small Union to get... I don't think that was very wise of them.

Anyway, these two things meant one thing: botting got wild. And I mean WILD. Let's face it, botting has always been a problem on Nutaku and chances are also on DMM, but jesus fuck. So I got 28m personal PP, and I'm rank 541. Seeing as we have about ~1000 players in total (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/4607-event-ranking-game-population-post156389.html#post156389) (very much looking forward to Moroboshi's next post for this event), that's... pretty insane. But of course, most people who botted didn't bot for the 20m, they botted for the top. So, let's have a little look at how the top Unions break down in top20. This is simply:
(the combined score of that Union's players who are in top20) / (Union's total score)

IronBlades [20] 100% (no data, but hey, we all know it is 100%)
Isekai [23] 52%
TsukiKishi [29] 38%
Пандорика (Pandorika) [19] 33%
談笑颩甡學習俓驗 [29] 27%
(moonrunes) [30] 27%
Weeb Wanks [28] 27%
Glitter [22] 23%
Susurrus [24] 18%
CybeastV15 [29] 15%
DarkHell [30] 13%
ToF [30] 11%
20something [30] 0%
DeathLotus [28] 0%
[] indicates how many people have logged in during the last 7 days in that Union, so possible participants.Now, what do these percentages mean? Well it implies the chance of a Union using bots. The more people use bots, the more they show up on the leaderboard, and thus the more likely that a larger portion of Union score is on those bots. We also have to remember that the more people/bots are running, the faster they kill the low level Demons and thus the more and more PP the Union can rack up (as we all know, loading times are the biggest enemy in Union events). This is why TsukiKishi shows up so high on the list - when one person does THAT much out of the Union's total, it's highly suspicious. Almost as if this one person didn't have any loading times or something. How mysterious! I wonder how that could be.

So yeah, while not absolute proof, the higher a Union is on that list, the higher the chances are that they're botting - possibly even coordinating it. Of course, since ranking was live this time around, you get around something like this by just stopping bots before they reach top20. Like, I'd be shocked if 20something had ZERO bots. In any event, this list is merely implying implications, so it is no proof of anyone botting or not botting. Just pointing out who are LIKELY to be botting.
And let's face it Isekai botted like crazy what the fuck guys.


But yeah. Supposedly there has been some lip service on Discord that the rewards will be loosened up and something will be done against the bots, but I think there is no chance of that actually happening. But maybe loosened rewards will make people bot less since there is less pressure to get the rewards. Doubt it though.

Welcome to Kamihime botting, I hope you enjoy your stay.

[Dejnov]

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Anyway, these two things meant one thing: botting got wild. And I mean WILD. Let's face it, botting has always been a problem on Nutaku and chances are also on DMM, but jesus fuck. So I got 28m personal PP, and I'm rank 541. Seeing as we have about ~1000 players in total (https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-project/4607-event-ranking-game-population-post156389.html#post156389) (very much looking forward to Moroboshi's next post for this event), that's... pretty insane. But of course, most people who botted didn't bot for the 20m, they botted for the top. So, let's have a little look at how the top Unions break down in top20. This is simply:
(the combined score of that Union's players who are in top20) / (Union's total score)

IronBlades [20] 100% (no data, but hey, we all know it is 100%)
Isekai [23] 52%
TsukiKishi [29] 38%
Пандорика (Pandorika) [19] 33%
談笑颩甡學習俓驗 [29] 27%
(moonrunes) [30] 27%
Weeb Wanks [28] 27%
Glitter [22] 23%
Susurrus [24] 18%
CybeastV15 [29] 15%
DarkHell [30] 13%
ToF [30] 11%
20something [30] 0%
DeathLotus [28] 0%
[] indicates how many people have logged in during the last 7 days in that Union, so possible participants.Now, what do these percentages mean? Well it implies the chance of a Union using bots. The more people use bots, the more they show up on the leaderboard, and thus the more likely that a larger portion of Union score is on those bots. We also have to remember that the more people/bots are running, the faster they kill the low level Demons and thus the more and more PP the Union can rack up (as we all know, loading times are the biggest enemy in Union events). This is why TsukiKishi shows up so high on the list - when one person does THAT much out of the Union's total, it's highly suspicious. Almost as if this one person didn't have any loading times or something. How mysterious! I wonder how that could be.

So yeah, while not absolute proof, the higher a Union is on that list, the higher the chances are that they're botting - possibly even coordinating it. Of course, since ranking was live this time around, you get around something like this by just stopping bots before they reach top20. Like, I'd be shocked if 20something had ZERO bots. In any event, this list is merely implying implications, so it is no proof of anyone botting or not botting. Just pointing out who are LIKELY to be botting.
And let's face it Isekai botted like crazy what the fuck guys.


Just a quick product of your estimation gives around 93.7 potential bots in the game right now. IF the current field of players is around 1000 then we have nearly 10% of the game population that is here using a bot. At that level of infection the developers can't do anything for the game. They can't generate new player interest (due to outrageous botting) and they can't get rid of the botters either as the game population would basically implode if they did (remember those who bot tend to also spend...).


Dejnov.
And aren't you in Isekai??? WTH man...

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[Slashley]

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:Unions:

01. 20something 4097m
02. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗 4031m (Talking and laughing)
03. ToF 3928m
04. Isekai 3424m
05. Weeb Wanks 2769m
06. (moonrunes)#2 2680m
07. CybeastV15 2061m
08. H VIP 2009m
09. DeathLotus 1853m
10. DarkHell 1768m
...
??. IronBladesPP:

01. Ebisus 406m (IronBlade)
02. FFF 406m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. Char Aznable 362m (DarkHell)
04. hutao 361m (H VIP)
05. AsD2038 356m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. God Of War 349m (Isekai)
07. RNGabc 348m ((moonrunes#2))
08. Yion 348m (Isekai)
09. Sunimei 340m (ToF)
10. (moonrunes)#1 337m (20something)
11. Lovemachine 329m (Isekai)
12. Whale 326m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. Gold 322m (Isekai)
14. baka123 317m (H VIP)
15. (moonrunes)#2 314m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. Skybullet 297m (ToF)
17. EuroDogKing 297m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
18. (moonrunes)#3 296m (20something)
19. ProtossAfterLife 289m (Isekai)
20. 32ELoliHave18cmDick 283m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
566. Slashley 27m (Isekai)Good work, everyone.
Just a quick product of your estimation gives around 93.7 potential bots in the game right now.That... is so much not what that's meant to mean. But hey, I guess it goes to show that humans are the ones that interpret the numbers.

What I personally meant was that the higher % a Union gets, the more likely it is that they have a botter. Or several. If they internally encourage cheating, they're going to have several. But for example TsukiKishi extremely likely only had one botter with their 38% score/rating/whatever you want to call it, NOT that 38% of their 29 players are botting.

And on that note, Talking and laughing pushed basically all non-top10 Unions out of the personal rankings. Using the same maths as before, they got 49% and Isekai got 47%. Yup, surely neither Union encourage botting at all. Clean as fresh laundry.