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Danex
07-04-2015, 10:48 PM
Hey! Since some of us are struggling a lot against those 8.7m guards, I thought we could coordinate to spawn 1 high hp guard and attack her in group so we can be sure that we'll take her down (more...

Kotono
07-04-2015, 10:51 PM
I think it is better to continue ignoring them. Nutaku already said they are working on fixing this, and we have nothing substantial to gain from taking them down.

That aside, most of the time I personally don't have the spare focus to keep dumping it all into one boss. I still get quite a few support requests for killable bosses.

Arekusu
07-05-2015, 02:32 AM
Hopefully they fix the issue soon but if not...I say anyone interested in this should make sure they're listed on the active players thread, then post here and make sure you have room on your friends list for requests. Try and keep your friend request queue clear and keep an eye for forum members sending you requests. I've got 7 slots open, I'll try and add those who post here.

Tenhou
07-05-2015, 06:13 AM
It is a nice idea, but i agree with Kotono that we should probably wait for a fix. Personally i never have full focus as i spend them on weak attacks on every available guard while keeping one extra in case a new one pops up. So in my case i doubt i can help, because it is very seldom that i'll have full focus because new guards keep popping up that i need to get at least one support on for the reward.

Unregistered
07-05-2015, 08:11 AM
I think they fixed the 8,7 M boss already - Now 8.7M boss now only start to come for players who killed 100+ bosses.
In begining 8,7 M boss starteded already after 60 kills. I dont know I they are goint to change the 8,7 M boss anymore than that.
Ofcause players who kill 200+ bosses get the 8,7M boss almost every time.
Imo the 8.7 M boss is really anoying.

Danex
07-05-2015, 10:16 AM
Well, in my case I'm not getting many support requests, so that's why I tend to have full focus so often :c
I'll try adding new active players to see if I can improve my chances.

Arekusu send me a pie-message when you get your slots open, looks like you received requests lately, so I couldn't send you mine.

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I think they fixed the 8,7 M boss already - Now 8.7M boss now only start to come for players who killed 100+ bosses.
In begining 8,7 M boss starteded already after 60 kills. I dont know I they are goint to change the 8,7 M boss anymore than that.
Ofcause players who kill 200+ bosses get the 8,7M boss almost every time.
Imo the 8.7 M boss is really anoying.

But if they actually fixed that, wasn't Nutaku supposed to give a compensation to all players? Or maybe Nutaku will compensate after event.

Unregistered
07-05-2015, 04:40 PM
Each time you assist another player or kill a boss yourself you boss kill count go up. When it reach 100 the 8.7mill bosses start to show up.
The higher the kill count the higher chance of the 8.7 mill boss.

If a player didn't assist other players at all he would reach 1.2 - 1.5 mill EP before getting his first 8.7 mill boss.

Assisting give good rewards but it gives you the 8.7 mill boss too.

Tenhou
07-05-2015, 05:26 PM
That's a seriously shitty system in all honesty. Aside from kills your bosses should depend on your total SED so that you can at least SOMEWHAT get it down with a bit of help. I pretty much assist everyone in existence so my kill count is very high already :<

Danex
07-05-2015, 08:04 PM
Anyways feels like something is missing here.
I mean, I've read on other pages about the % system regarding 8.7m guards, but it I haven't face a normal hp guard in days, and spawning a guard each 2 hours should at least give me 1 normal boss each 1 or 2 days, 3 maybe. But nothing until now (maybe I just had bad luck).

But the main reason I think Nutaku still haven't finished their revision of the system, is the fact that they haven't published any official info about that (as far as I know).

I'm more convinced now that we should try the coordinated group raids. Having just 4 players with a little more than 100k SED plus slayer cards bonus, gives us 2 full focus strikes and 4 weak strikes within the time we have for taking Kasumi down. Adding some help from random normal players should do the trick.
For example I have only 110k SED, but plus slayer cards bonus I can land a 232K strike and almost 93k with 4 weak strikes (wost case scenario, being 10% all of those weak strikes). Since most of players at this forum have higher SED than me, the numbers get better.

This strategy requires the use of a sexual energy drink, though, so that's the reason I say we can rotate the player who spawns the guard.

anon432
07-06-2015, 07:49 AM
Was considering same thing.
Since Nutaku just added "Part 2" of event and yet no word on current 8mil, bosses seem to be going to get even worse, some cooperation is absolute must.

Danex
07-06-2015, 08:16 AM
True. Just spawned my first Kasumi today after the start of the 2nd part: 9.8m HP.

The event ends next week so we stil have some days to coordinate something. Let's see during these very first days of the 2nd half how evolves this high HP issue, meanwhile we could check how many people we actually have for thr group raids.

Since we'll need to coordinate times to attack, I would need to know the time zone of the interested party members.
I'll edit the 1st post with a list of interested people, SED and timezones, let's wait 'till wednesday to see if we gather enough people.

DX91
07-06-2015, 09:55 AM
Well, i'm in. Let's see if we can do something.
This became almost impossible to do alone. 1 killable (7/800k , but even 1/2kk) boss after a loooot of elixir.


My time zone is UTC +1 (italy) and currently the SED is 124,760. And this the SED in the event 45

Tenhou
07-06-2015, 10:12 AM
I'm getting 12m Kasumis now, the joy! Sitting at 390k SED since i only have the free slayer cards. Online pretty much all the time apart from when i sleep (around 2.00-12.00 GMT+1)

Better not use my Kasumis for this to be honest, sheesh 0.o

anon432
07-06-2015, 10:25 AM
GMT+10 (but I have irregular schedule and can adjust it to some extent), 292500 SED after event bonuses.

Danex
07-08-2015, 03:40 PM
All right. The time has come. (lol)

I made a table to keep a comparison of time zones and be able to coordinate everyone. So far we still have the same group, though I've tried 2 guards so far and both went pretty well. I wonder if Xanthius will join too, since he provided large support during those attempts too.

If nobody wants to spawn guards, I'll gladly do it, adding the corresponding energy drink, too, so no problem with that from my part.

Being that said, for tomorrow thursday I can spawn guards from 01:00 to 02:00 and from 15:00 to the rest of the day.
For DX91 and Tenhou that means from 03:00 to 04:00 and from 17:00 to the rest of the day.
For anon432 that means from 18:00 to 19:00 and from 08:00 to the rest of the day.

Please let me know if you're ok with those time gaps. After each defeated guard, if anyone wants to volunteer to spawn the next, just send me a pie message. Just make sure that everyone has each member of the group added as Pero friends, otherwise that change won't work lol.

If anyone else wants to join, just post here writing username, total SED (PLUS slayer bonus!) and timezone.

Tenhou
07-08-2015, 05:01 PM
I'll be on for the 17.00 one, 3-4 is waaaaaay to early :P

Xanthius
07-08-2015, 06:39 PM
I'm up for joining in! UTC+4 with 888,298 SED

Was just going through my friends and 2 will be hitting their 3rd day of inactivity with a third looking to be heading that direction also, so I can add 2 tonight and probably will have a spot for a third tomorrow.

Tomorrow will be a pretty random day for me, so probably can't commit to any times for this first round. Friday through the rest of the event duration I will have more stable days and be able to lock-in :D

Tenhou
07-08-2015, 06:53 PM
Removed a 3dayer a bit ago, feel free to throw a request.

Well, tomorrow i guess :P

Xanthius
07-08-2015, 07:39 PM
Removed a 3dayer a bit ago, feel free to throw a request.

Well, tomorrow i guess :P

I'll be floating around the computer the next hour or two. The low levels are quick to fill the request spots, but hopefully we can catch each other and get friended.

CSocktaters
07-08-2015, 07:57 PM
I'm still shoveling out requests if anyone needs some bosses to fight. (770k~ hp atm)

Danex
07-08-2015, 08:19 PM
I'll be on for the 17.00 one, 3-4 is waaaaaay to early :P

Yeah, I know. Just wanted to provide an option more friendly to anon432, since his time zone is +10, the second time gap actually is Friday for him.

All right, looks like we have a plan then.
Just added Xanthius to the list, and I'll check the table to confirm the time gaps for him.

Tomorrow I'll be posting the time gaps corresponding to the next day of group raids, just like I did today, so we can keep ourselves organized.

Heya, CSocktaters, just sent you a friend request. I'll need your time zone to add you to the list ;)

Let's take those Kasumi's down! xD

DX91
07-08-2015, 11:17 PM
For DX91 and Tenhou that means from 03:00 to 04:00 and from 17:00 to the rest of the day.




I'm ok with the 17+ time!
3-4 is a bit.... sleep time lol


Now i have 2 free space for friends, so if the others want to add me...

CSocktaters
07-08-2015, 11:34 PM
My time zone is -4 hours or eastern daylight time. It's actually 1 am when I'm posting this. :P Also I just checked and realized due to how many time's I have others support me I'm a few kills until I get the 8kk bosses. My 100k attacks won't do much but it is something.

Danex
07-08-2015, 11:58 PM
Welcome to the party xD I'll update the table later, I seriously need to sleep now.

Btw, first time gap ended and no sign of anon432, so no news about guards.
Second gap for Xanthius should start at 08:00 to the rest of the day.
For CSocktaters should start at 16:00 to the rest of the day.

Xanthius
07-09-2015, 01:02 AM
Oopsies, have an edit for you Danex when you update the table. Meant to put -4 for my timezone, not +4:o...I'm Eastern Daylight like CSocktaters.

I'll try to join in where I can, but remember no guarantees from me for this first round on Thursday.

Arekusu
07-09-2015, 01:38 AM
Count me in, Arekusu and my ID is in my sig, 1,239,911 SED, timezone -5GMT

Tenhou
07-09-2015, 05:02 AM
I'll be floating around the computer the next hour or two. The low levels are quick to fill the request spots, but hopefully we can catch each other and get friended.

Was kind of late for me when i said that, so i went to bed. Am up again now, keeping a lowbie in the accept list to keep from getting spammed. Just poke me when you're online.

Danex
07-09-2015, 01:03 PM
List updated. Let's do our best :3

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Dammit, looks like I miscalculated the GMT+1 times. 17:00 for GMT+1 is 21:00 for me, but it's still ok from my part, I'll be online at that time.

I'm getting different time results from different websites sites goddammit. Can you please post what time is now in your respective timezone?

Here's currently 15:24

CSocktaters
07-09-2015, 01:09 PM
Atm it is 2:30 PM or 14:30 here.

Xanthius
07-09-2015, 01:10 PM
Currently 14:27 here at GMT-4

DX91
07-09-2015, 01:17 PM
20:35 at GTM +2 (sorry wasn't +1 like i said before)

Italy Time: What is the current local time now in Italy? (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/italy/time/)

Danex
07-09-2015, 01:36 PM
All right guys, thanks. Sorry for the mistake.

I'll update the table I have for the timezones and my estimated time gaps should be more accurate from now.
Anyways, I'm online from now up to 7 hours more, so for the GMT-4 guys should be fine, for the -1 and -2 guys means they have like 4 hours more available.

Let's work with what we have now and I'll give a better estimation for tomorrow.
Please if anyone wants to spawn guards, remember to use a sexual energy drink to make thing work, unless you're reasonably sure you can handle a full hp boss. I'll be spawning guards from time to time with HP at half

DX91
07-09-2015, 02:15 PM
Update of the SED (in the table is a little dated)
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Tenhou
07-09-2015, 02:27 PM
Kind of raiding at the moment, my current time says 21:47.
Will check this better once i am done, in about an hour or so.

Danex
07-09-2015, 02:48 PM
Thanks, I think I'm ready with the confirmed times for each one. I'll update stuff later.

Hell of action happening right now xD Kasumi's being defeated everywhere xD

Xanthius
07-09-2015, 03:20 PM
I've got a lvl up coming in about 2 hours if anon or Arekusu have an available spot :D

Danex
07-09-2015, 06:33 PM
All right, still a couple of hours left but a lot of raids already were executed. Even with my amazing mistake with time zones (xD) at the moment everything is going pretty good. Hopefuly everyone got some spotter/supporter extra points.

I've compared each member's time zone and set a criteria to determine the best time gaps so we can gather the whole group online as much as possible:

02:00 to 08:00 = totally nope.
01:00 and 09:00 = maybe, but likely nope (depends on each player).
10:00 to 23:00 = more reasonable.

Under that criteria I've found that the following time gap it's more likely to find the entire group online:

Me: 12:00 to 18:00
DX91: 17:00 to 23:00
Tenhou: 16:00 to 22:00
Xanthius: 11:00 to 17:00
CSocktaters: 11:00 to 17:00
Arekusu: 10:00 to 16:00

(FOR NOW I'm not considering anon432 'cause he dissapeared, but I have his time gaps too, in case he returns and wants to join the raids).

This can be applied to each day, so each member can find it more or less suitable acording to work, studies and other stuff, but this is a good idea to start with.

Details of the time gaps selection can be found at the attached image.
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Arekusu
07-09-2015, 07:26 PM
Well I'm just summoning Kasumi if no one else on the team has one up, seems to be working pretty good so far.

CSocktaters
07-09-2015, 09:44 PM
Kind of scares me that you've stalked our times. Nah jk but sorry I disappeared on you the second half.

Xanthius
07-09-2015, 10:17 PM
Kind of scares me that you've stalked our times. Nah jk but sorry I disappeared on you the second half.

Best be good boys and girls! Remember, Danex is watching you :eek:

DX91
07-09-2015, 11:28 PM
DX91: 17:00 to 23:00


I'm ok until 24:00. since i'm the only in yellow in that time slot in the table.


Well, 8-12kk Kasumis are no longer scary :3

Tenhou
07-10-2015, 04:26 AM
A nice chart. I am fine with my yellow times, though, i tend to go to bed around 2.00+.

Xanthius
07-10-2015, 08:32 AM
My times are pretty spot on for my typical availability. Awesome job organizing this Danex, it really is going well! Took down more Kasumis yesterday than I have since the 8.7s started rolling around :p

Danex
07-11-2015, 10:48 AM
Glad to see this idea is helping members from this community so far. If this keeps up, we can try it again for future guards-based events.

I'm gonna be offline a couple of hours, but I'll provide support as planned. I'll spawn my own guards + energy drink as soon as possible.
Good luck everyone! :3

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Sorry for yesterday. Had to be offline more than expected, but I tried to provide as much support as possible. Anyways looks like the group still had some quite nice raids, so let's keep it up.
I'll be online during the rest of the day, so I'll spawn some Kasumi's for your rank's pleasure LOL.

Arekusu
07-12-2015, 02:44 PM
Sadly I'm going to have to back out of this the last couple days for the most part. Rank dropped from 22-28 the past 3 days and I'd like to make the 11-30 bracket. Gotta make sure I'm last hitting all the time.

KaAnor
07-12-2015, 03:26 PM
I hope we'll both have no problems staying in the 11-30 pool.
I would like to help but I'm in the same tight spot, if I can't last hit my boss and have the damage bonus I'm done for.

Xanthius
07-12-2015, 07:07 PM
No worries, and good luck you two! :D
I'll be spending the last bit of the event seeing if I can jump my support rank 8 spots to get to 50, so keep them bosses coming and I'll hit 'em!

Tenhou
07-12-2015, 07:12 PM
Pretty much trying to do the same until i go to bed; get more support so i can maintain my rank. Am at 34 at the moment and 203 in EP rank.

Danex
07-12-2015, 07:39 PM
Can't believe my own bad luck. Internet went down during almost the entire day.
Sorry about that. I wish I could organize some last day massive raids lol

I'll be spawning some Kasumi's for everyone interested as long as possible within the hours left.

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PS: Feel free to MVP/Last Hit my Kasumi's as much as you want. No problem with that.