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Vic47
01-28-2016, 04:16 PM
So, as some (or, maybe, "many"?) of you might've noticed , the new banner under the game window says we'll get another update, that will bring us the Revival Gacha Machine, on the 4th of February, when the current PeroGambit 4 Event will end. Does anybody know (from the original Japanese version of the game) what will it be like? According to the picture on the banner and the name of this Gacha it must be something like GHQ, only for the special Event cards from the previous Events... Another question - what will it consume to roll it - Stamina, Focus, or some special type of Tickets... (and i guess, in any way, it will, most probably, be quite pricy to roll it...)
So, what do you think (or, maybe, know?) about it?

ThermalGeeK
01-28-2016, 04:50 PM
i knew this would come, I talked to one of the staff about it, and he said it would come soon :3 but I must admit, I am guessing it would be like event gacha or something like that so happy that it comes, to give late commers a chance for the goodies :3

EvilAngel
01-28-2016, 04:57 PM
Coming soon is the usual answer to everything thats not implemented yet xd

chillinfar
01-28-2016, 11:48 PM
The two questions are:

how much will cost (if apply)?

They will put N cards on it? (this because a lot of N cards was only from events, like Lady Astrea and Nishino Ruriko, both from Perocolo)

SumTingRong
01-29-2016, 12:15 AM
its not coming soon... they even say the date 4th feb

lordvarokah
01-29-2016, 11:14 PM
The two questions are:

how much will cost (if apply)?

They will put N cards on it? (this because a lot of N cards was only from events, like Lady Astrea and Nishino Ruriko, both from Perocolo)

cost? > maybe in gold, not in pero...
put N cards > hmm, I don't know about it. Maybe 50 : 50 :(

Unregistered
01-30-2016, 04:01 AM
My guess this will take nutaku gold to roll (by way of revival tickets). It's a good way to get non payers to actually pay to get some of the cards they missed out on because of Nutaku derps. Yes my name is Nostrodamus, how did you know?!?!

Vic47
02-04-2016, 04:30 AM
Blah, they won't make me pay like that. If i wanted to pay to get them, i could just pay for some e-gacha/sr-gacha tickets or consumables or whatever to win them during the events they were in. And they will definately not make me want to pay to get (to get a chance! to get, to be percise) something that i should've got for free if they won't mess-up the requirements to get it, like Gambit's 50k SR card. So in that case that would be just another useless feature for me, like medal shop, and just another way to make big spenders to spen even more, if they are obessed collectors, and started playing late to get those cards in the Events they were bound to.
But you are, probably, right, since otherwise they could've just add some old cards to e- or sr-Gacha or to GHQ. (
But, well, we'll find that out in half an hour... (so i won't even go to bed, no matter i'm up for over 18 hours already)

Rumpel
02-04-2016, 05:28 AM
~100$ to obtain all of them. But... No, Nutaku, thx.

EvilAngel
02-04-2016, 05:30 AM
The first iteration of the Revival Gacha Machine is now available and will run until the 9th of February!
Get your favorite card from the first two Coliseum and Elite Guard Events or from the first Gambit!

Stay tuned to PeroPero Seduction as more fan favorite cards are on the way!

Great, overpriced and doesn't cointains First EG Reward Cards, the only Card i would look for- :mad:

Arekusu
02-04-2016, 05:48 AM
My take...

Got 10 tickets...got an SR half the time. Seeing as how at most you'll only ever see 1 SR of a pool 15 this is really bad if you want a specific SR you missed (Kanae anyone?). It's a shame the revival gacha statistically is a HUGE fucking money sink in that regard. I'd hoped the point of this would help people get cards they missed out on but the amount of money you may have to spend is ridiculous.

Verdict? Score 0/5. Would be better if Nutaku could come up with a way to help people get a second chance at getting cards they missed without gouging them.

Vic47
02-04-2016, 05:48 AM
Yeah. Just another bullshit, just as we thought. 100 Nutaku Gold per ticket, and time limited, too (only until 9th of February, as they say) =__="
I guess it will be something to fill the gap between the events... I wonder if at least some tickets for this Gacha will be included in Daily Login Bonus streak or elsewhere...

SumTingRong
02-04-2016, 05:58 AM
When you buy a ticket it says its for 5 months or something :) i guess only the first phase of this gacha is available until 9th... and more will follow

Rumpel
02-04-2016, 06:08 AM
100 Nutaku Gold per ticket
The first one costs 100, others - 300.

Unregistered
02-04-2016, 10:55 AM
~100$ to obtain all of them. But... No, Nutaku, thx.

Wrong. if RNGeesus smiles on you it will cost $1 for the first and $3 thereafter that's $76 for all IF you are very, very lucky. Also don't forget you need glasses to maximize your chances to pick new cards instead of repeats. ...on second thought $100 seems to low because as we all know RNGeesus is not our friend.

Opalia24
02-04-2016, 11:13 AM
If 50% of new boosers have a SR and players use a card reveal each time players on average have to open 99,5 bosster to get a full set.

That cost is around 300$ + card reveals. Unlucky player have to spend mere and lucky players less...

AzureWinter
02-04-2016, 12:41 PM
Wait - I seem to have lost my two Event Gacha tickets. What's happened?

SumTingRong
02-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Revival Gacha tickets**

Unregistered
02-04-2016, 01:39 PM
Wait - I seem to have lost my two Event Gacha tickets. What's happened?

The event is over. if you look in your inventory they should still be there. You can't roll for event gatcha outside of event times.

AzureWinter
02-04-2016, 01:58 PM
The event is over. if you look in your inventory they should still be there. You can't roll for event gatcha outside of event times.

Yes I knew there was no event currently, but I looked in my inventory and didn't see them.
I looked a little further, actually went to Kurito's Nest to check, and they are listed there, so that's good.

fdfan
02-04-2016, 02:40 PM
So sad that it is p2p for these. I was excited when I looked at the card list, because there were a few girls I really wanted but missed because I joined recently.

On a similar note (though not to derail the thread), what good is pero if you have to use real money for anything cool (directly or to get items for events)? I have found very few uses for it, one of which was buying pink keys for the Gambit via N Gacha cards in the "Buy with pero" shop.

kainpen
02-04-2016, 03:40 PM
the only other use, is buy N level ups, so you can then trade them for R level up and then for SR level up. if you have all your cards max it serves no use, expect to get trades from the mean nut hiding girl.

Balek
02-04-2016, 04:31 PM
Tbh, everyone who didn't expect this to cost real money is a fool, or a new player. Nutaku already proved countless times how money hungry they are.

chillinfar
02-04-2016, 05:25 PM
Great, overpriced and doesn't cointains First EG Reward Cards, the only Card i would look for- :mad:

LOL, Kasumi isn't in that pool?

And i still asking if N cards are present (if present that means a HUGE fail)

blacksaber
02-04-2016, 06:26 PM
LOL, Kasumi isn't in that pool?

And i still asking if N cards are present (if present that means a HUGE fail)

Did 2 rolls hoping for the pirate. All I saw was silver. Quite ashame its not like EGacha where the chance of getting a SR goes up.

fdfan
02-04-2016, 07:30 PM
Tbh, everyone who didn't expect this to cost real money is a fool, or a new player. Nutaku already proved countless times how money hungry they are.

I figured that it would be like the other gachas (only buy with real money), but maybe they would have a way to get it with time as opposed to money, like with event and guaranteed SR gachas (daily login bonus, events, etc.). Perhaps it could be a reward for events in the future or something of the sort. Giving one free ticket to everyone wouldn't kill them, since it is a very viable marketing strategy. You use it to see if you can get something you want, and if you do, then I'm sure that there is another you want. If you don't get something you want, then you feel the urge to spend money to get it more than if you never roll. Just the same way that Nutaku gives everyone 100 gold. After you spend it, you feel as though you have lost it and want to replace it with more gold.

EvilAngel
02-04-2016, 08:18 PM
LOL, Kasumi isn't in that pool?

And i still asking if N cards are present (if present that means a HUGE fail)

SED, the 1 event card i am Mission isnt in their "revival" 😠

Neko
02-05-2016, 03:12 AM
You got Reina though ? xd

blacksaber
02-05-2016, 03:41 AM
Well...gave it a second shot, and bought the 5 gatcha pack (7 tickets total).
1st roll, new rare.
2nd roll, old SR and rares.
3rd roll...PIRATE LADY! The only event SR I was missing, and the only card I actually wanted!

Now I'm just missing Fusayo, and not sure if I should use the last 2 rolls I have on her. Oh yeah, revival gatcha still sucks

Massume
02-05-2016, 10:05 AM
So why did they call the pirate lady and some other SR cards ''limited'', if we can get them later on from the revival gacha? I dont see how these cards are any different from regular SR cards.. Or am I missing something here?

But well, I am not going to bother with the revival gacha, chances for getting the card that you need are a little too low in my opinion.

chillinfar
02-05-2016, 11:25 AM
Did 2 rolls hoping for the pirate. All I saw was silver. Quite ashame its not like EGacha where the chance of getting a SR goes up.

Nutaku just "fixed" eGacha at December, but the fiasco with N cards was reported since the begining.

With revival gacha they put back the old bad behavior. Feel free to drop shit to staff.

Unregistered
02-05-2016, 12:28 PM
So why did they call the pirate lady and some other SR cards ''limited'', if we can get them later on from the revival gacha? I dont see how these cards are any different from regular SR cards.. Or am I missing something here?

But well, I am not going to bother with the revival gacha, chances for getting the card that you need are a little too low in my opinion.

LOL did you expect perfection from Nutaku? This was coded by some Japanese dev's and translated to English. DMM is just a website where people got together and offered the games. Nutaku is a re-seller and have limited control of the code. However what control they do have is being exploited to the hilt for whale hunts.
As for the "limited" cards at the time they were added revival wasn't an option and they were truly a one time prize you got or lost out on.

chillinfar
02-05-2016, 07:31 PM
LOL did you expect perfection from Nutaku? This was coded by some Japanese dev's and translated to English. DMM is just a website where people got together and offered the games. Nutaku is a re-seller and have limited control of the code. However what control they do have is being exploited to the hilt for whale hunts.
As for the "limited" cards at the time they were added revival wasn't an option and they were truly a one time prize you got or lost out on.
As reseller they had a lot of customization: SED boost for Perocolo, Western porn cards (like Sillygirl), intentional shutdown on some features (like assistance at Elite Guard, "fixed" after a lot of shitstorms)...

- - - Updated - - -

Oh, and the event gacha fiasco (N cards on pool). Recently "fixed".

fdfan
02-09-2016, 11:07 AM
Elite Guard is giving out 3 Revival Gacha tickets for 3m EP. I figured that they might give them out like they had been giving out SR Guaranteed tickets for higher prizes, but I was really hoping that it might be easier to get for f2p...oh well.

Vic47
02-09-2016, 07:55 PM
Elite Guard is giving out 3 Revival Gacha tickets for 3m EP. I figured that they might give them out like they had been giving out SR Guaranteed tickets for higher prizes, but I was really hoping that it might be easier to get for f2p...oh well.

Yeah, i've noticed that too, but that's out of reach for most f2p and new playes anyway. (maybe only Elite Guard will give a chance for me to get them). And that looks stupid - if i couldn't get 50k trophies to get the card i wanted, what is the point of promising me a ticket for _gacha_ that _might_ give me a _chance_ to get it for getting 3M Trophies? That's pretty ridiculous. The thing that could give people that joined th game late / missed part of the event due to real life duties/problems or just were too weak to get enough poits to win the card for the moment it was in game a chance to get the card they want/complete their collection is turned into another way to suck money from people, duh =_=; I hate people like Nutaku for doing things this way. And that's why i never pay real money for stuff in games in the first place. Helping good people who make games so people could enjoy them to make more good games and prosper by donating them some money for their great work is one thing, and feeding greedy bastards that treat you like shit and milking cows, forcing you to pay to not feel bad from playing their games is complete opposite. Too bad that mindless/obessed/rich people STILL give them their money for this shitty way of treating everyone, so they keep doing that, even increasing their activity, making more and more thing for what you must pay in their games, making the overall situation even worse. If everybody would stop funding them, they could eventually do the opposite, and start making games that could be fully enjoyed and functional without additional need to pay for that, that they once had, but that won't happen in this world.

Neko
02-10-2016, 05:17 AM
I'm actualy surprised is just 3 mil EP needed :) That should be doable for a lot of people with decent SED even if f2p. I'm at 1,5 mil ep already and only got 1 R beta slayer. My base sed is 1,55 mil though.
The 2 mil trophies in last event was insane compared to this :D

JSensei
02-10-2016, 09:22 AM
Yeah, i've noticed that too, but that's out of reach for most f2p and new playes anyway. (maybe only Elite Guard will give a chance for me to get them). And that looks stupid - if i couldn't get 50k trophies to get the card i wanted, what is the point of promising me a ticket for _gacha_ that _might_ give me a _chance_ to get it for getting 3M Trophies? That's pretty ridiculous. The thing that could give people that joined th game late / missed part of the event due to real life duties/problems or just were too weak to get enough poits to win the card for the moment it was in game a chance to get the card they want/complete their collection is turned into another way to suck money from people, duh =_=; I hate people like Nutaku for doing things this way. And that's why i never pay real money for stuff in games in the first place. Helping good people who make games so people could enjoy them to make more good games and prosper by donating them some money for their great work is one thing, and feeding greedy bastards that treat you like shit and milking cows, forcing you to pay to not feel bad from playing their games is complete opposite. Too bad that mindless/obessed/rich people STILL give them their money for this shitty way of treating everyone, so they keep doing that, even increasing their activity, making more and more thing for what you must pay in their games, making the overall situation even worse. If everybody would stop funding them, they could eventually do the opposite, and start making games that could be fully enjoyed and functional without additional need to pay for that, that they once had, but that won't happen in this world.

I think I topped out at a bit over 4 million EP last time. Admittedly, I scored the Alpha SR from phase 1 on day 1. I've not used any of my e-gacha tickets this time. My base SED is significantly higher for this round, so I think I can do just fine without any slayer cards for phase 1. In phase 2, I'll spend my e-gacha tickets to get a couple slayers and see how many SEGs I can get, but most of the fun will be poking SEGs with friends.

Sshial
02-10-2016, 09:31 AM
A bit more than 1 million with no slayers (except from the N card in normal gacha of course) and with only 640k SED. I think that if you are active and have more than 300k SED, you should just got the tickets, it isn't that hard and there are still 13 days left. I would like to know if they are really giving out 3 revival tickets or only 1? It wouldn't be the first time they say they are giving 3 tickets when only give one.

Getting in the top 1000 might be much harder though. I am still between the 200 best, but there are many people with slayers and more SED than I, not to mention the boost in the last day.

Good luck in the event! ^^

JSensei
02-10-2016, 10:02 AM
A bit more than 1 million with no slayers (except from the N card in normal gacha of course) and with only 640k SED. I think that if you are active and have more than 300k SED, you should just got the tickets, it isn't that hard and there are still 13 days left. I would like to know if they are really giving out 3 revival tickets or only 1? It wouldn't be the first time they say they are giving 3 tickets when only give one.

Getting in the top 1000 might be much harder though. I am still between the 200 best, but there are many people with slayers and more SED than I, not to mention the boost in the last day.

Good luck in the event! ^^

My guess is 3. Last EG, you got 3 SR Gacha tickets. The reward list is always correct. That said, the window for next reward in perocolo showed 3 SR Gacha tickets, and you only got 1. But if you checked the reward listing, it only had 1. It was a bug that kind of sucked, but the reward listing was clear and correct.

Holic
02-10-2016, 10:32 AM
I can confirm that the Revival tickets are 3.

Vic47
02-10-2016, 11:11 AM
Oops, i was wrong: i've got a Beta R SEC from the last event (Kimi Kashima) so my Event SED is now 1,442,161, so only today i've earned around 1,5 M EP - so i'm getting Revival Tickets in a day or two - but i wonder, if the Revival Gacha will appear just like the SR Guaranteed Gacha does when we get the tickets to roll it, or if we'll have to wait until Nutaku launches Revival Gacha Mini-Event again to use them...?

JSensei
02-10-2016, 11:23 AM
Oops, i was wrong: i've got a Beta R SEC from the last event (Kimi Kashima) so my Event SED is now 1,442,161, so only today i've earned around 1,5 M EP - so i'm getting Revival Tickets in a day or two - but i wonder, if the Revival Gacha will appear just like the SR Guaranteed Gacha does when we get the tickets to roll it, or if we'll have to wait until Nutaku launches Revival Gacha Mini-Event again to use them...?

Revival gacha is between events. So yes.

lordvarokah
02-10-2016, 11:36 AM
if they (Nutaku) launching revival gacha mini-event again, I'll use 1 revival gacha ticket after get 3M EP Reward..

Note : Slayers > Kimi Kashima + Chidori Koinaka (got 1,082,982 event SED now)

Vic47
02-12-2016, 08:44 AM
Revival gacha is between events. So yes.

Damn, i'm a little nervous... I just won those 3 RevGacha Tickets by achieving 3M EP and can't find them anywhere - nor in the Items section, nor in the Curito trading section... I hope this is not a bug and they will show up when the Revgacha show up...

chillinfar
02-12-2016, 10:34 AM
Nutaku put a survey (well, is just one suggestion). Those who want the N event cards back, suggest to put them in GHQ while revival gacha is up.

Mattress
02-13-2016, 10:28 AM
Damn, i'm a little nervous... I just won those 3 RevGacha Tickets by achieving 3M EP and can't find them anywhere - nor in the Items section, nor in the Curito trading section... I hope this is not a bug and they will show up when the Revgacha show up...
Same for me!

JSensei
02-13-2016, 12:13 PM
Don't worry. They're there. It's like e-gacha. You can't see your e-gacha tickets outside of events, either. Rest assured that when EG ends, you will be able to see your tickets again. Otherwise, send a ticket to Nutaku. From what I have heard, they are actually pretty good about fixing it when people do not get paid items for stuff like this. It's one of the few things that Nutaku does that I like.