Thread: Fake Lay

Originally Posted by soviras

If you think that would be the case... You should probably think about things before assuming the stupid option is true.

What's stupid about that? If what previous person said about Santa doubling his girl's stats is true (and looking at 5th battle requirement, it seems true), that's exactly what we will get at 15th battle.
1st - 6.3k/6.3k/6.5k
...
5th - 100.8k/100.8k/105.6k
...
15th - 103.2M/103.2M/108.1M

Those christmas girls are pretty horrible.

art is not everything, but they square with the worst of the girls, instead of the best.
Art progression not looking too hot so far.

In fact it seems to be in regression O_o

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's stupid about that? If what previous person said about Santa doubling his girl's stats is true (and looking at 5th battle requirement, it seems true), that's exactly what we will get at 15th battle.
1st - 6.3k/6.3k/6.5k
...
5th - 100.8k/100.8k/105.6k
...
15th - 103.2M/103.2M/108.1M

It's stupid because it isn't a realistic scenario. A small amount of common sense would tell you that it won't be that way all the way up to 15. 103-108 mil would be almost 18 times higher than the stats of the number 1 whale. The devs are far from the best in decision making, but they aren't complete morons, and thus wouldn't do something like that.

Observations with a limited scope won't show you the whole picture, and you shouldn't assume the stupid thing just because of incomplete information. Realistically speaking, I doubt it will go over 600k, because that's the beatable limit for people with all girls unlocked.

Originally Posted by soviras

It's stupid because it isn't a realistic scenario. A small amount of common sense would tell you that it won't be that way all the way up to 15. 103-108 mil would be almost 18 times higher than the stats of the number 1 whale. The devs are far from the best in decision making, but they aren't complete morons, and thus wouldn't do something like that.

Observations with a limited scope won't show you the whole picture, and you shouldn't assume the stupid thing just because of incomplete information. Realistically speaking, I doubt it will go over 600k, because that's the beatable limit for people with all girls unlocked.

Why is it not realistic (devs requiring payments of $10k is not that unrealistic in ftp games)?
How do you apply common sense in ftp games (common sense would be that devs would try to cover all range of whales from $100 investors, that are barely whales, to $100,000 investors, that have crazy incomes and don't even look at how much they spend on such games)?
How do you know the stats of number 1 whale if you can't see his Mistlehoe (event girl stats are not shown anywhere as far as I know)?
How do you know that those observations were done with a limited scope (the info was given by some Ashes person in Discord and there is no information what it was based on, maybe it was done on full scope)?
Why is 600k is the beatable limit for people with all girls unlocked (I can beat 300k in tournament, but only 30k in event, so I don't see how those values are related)?
How is the amount of girls unlocked even connects to event (even if you unlock all girls you may not be using your best one in tournament and even if you didn't unlock any girls at all, you still can upgrade event girl)?
Why do you think that last gift should be reachable without crazy spendings (first 4-5 gifts may be for free players, next 5 for paying players and last 5 for whales of different amount of spending habits)?
You are making so many suggestions based on nothing that you sound stupid yourself.

It's 30 gems/10k for me, to speed up daily training for event girl. So to get 100M in each stat you need 3*100,000/10*30=900,000gems=900*6500 nutaku gold=9*65*100$=$58,500. This does not account for 3 boosts that can be used (20% to each stats from all three, I think are the best) and special costume (another 70%), so actual number can be around $25k. The number looks crazy to me too, but who knows what developers think... And who knows how much whales spend (in Marvel Puzzle Quest, that I played for some time, some whales spent tens thousands dollars on each new character release to max cover and max champ it as soon as possible, so it is not unusual)...

Anyway, that 100m calculation was based on ThanatosX post who mentioned some Ashes person, I have no idea who that is and how reliable is his info or where he got it. Maybe it's a whale who already got everything done, maybe it's a developer, maybe just a person who collected pictures from everyone else and made a suggestion for stat progression based on 2 levels. But anyway, attacking DShanks who didn't make any assumptions and just did calculations based on ThanatosX info was stupid. Either you should have replied to ThanatosX that his info may be incorrect or joined Discord and contacted that Ashes person to find what his info is based on. Right now this is the only piece of info that we have and I, by completing first two levels and seeing stat requirements for next one, can't disprove it yet. I doubt you can too, when all you are relying on is common sense that you don't show any.

I'm curious what is the best way to progress in the game as far as when to reset?

Does anyone know if we get to keep the stupid expensive 65 dollar one? Her level is 300 according to her stats page, so it's not like she'd need any filming training.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm curious what is the best way to progress in the game as far as when to reset?

Best way in terms of progress/total time is to reset before you do any 10 minutes Fake it. That will give you about 2 base multiplier in 15 minutes or 8 per hour on average.

Best way in terms of progress/play time is to reset daily at about 20 gained multiplier (you may need 200 base multiplier and some warps to be able to do it in a day, I had 300 base and 64x warp when I started doing this instead of the 1st one). That will give you an average of 0.8 per hour - 10 times less than the first way, but requires much less active time (only 1 reset instead of 24*4=96 per day).

If you have more warps, then there may be another point of reset with best investment of play time. But I still doubt you can beat 8/hour from the first way.

Sometimes you may wish to do a long run to unlock some milestones for girls. Some of them reward you with permanent Energy slots.

Forgot about one more way: Instead of 20 every day you can skip few last unlocks and just reset in 10 hours for 15 or so multiplier. This will allow you to do a single film run too (and previously you could do a 10 hour training session, will have to use 8 hour or 12 hour now), so your girls (only first few though) can gain some progress. Maybe with better stats later you can even fit that 20 multiplier into 10 hour run instead of full day.

I am doing a long run now - instead of resetting in a day, decided to wait few more days for 33 score in some skills, gained at least 6 more new unlocks (3 energy slots from Victoria, few gems) but only 25 to base multiplier. Compared to 20 in a day this is much worse, but it does not hurt much to do it at least once for those unlocks.

I based the estimate of 4/5 outfits on the total free training for the event netting around 200k of stats, I figured you could go for a 100k/100k/0 build and get lucky for the fifth prize. Any stats past there were moot anyway because the event is limited, Santa could go infinite on battle 6 for all the impact on f2p.

Ashes posted the pic of all the outfits, so I credited them with it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does anyone know if we get to keep the stupid expensive 65 dollar one? Her level is 300 according to her stats page, so it's not like she'd need any filming training.

Well, at least one player has the other elf listed as his best girl, stats in the 800k. If she is usable outside of events is another question. And to speculate: the devs do not do things strictly on formulas and there are currently 3 tiers of 5 girls each. And there are 15 presents. So maybe difficulty change each 5 presents.