Thread: Fake Lay

Originally Posted by 420gamer

depending on if I am at home or working

Hehe. Since it is a pure browser game, you can activate training, filming or long fake its on your phone in your lunch break

Also, I have reined in my impatience knowing more will come, after all this is an idle game.

We shall see. They deviated from their previous girl grouping. Always three girls are within a order of magnitude. After that you had a big increase in money demands. The last was from Twins to Maggie, almost 20 times. So if one waited and farmed Twins and barely made it, there is no practical way to get Maggie after that, without bumping warp, or waiting several years. The increase from Anya to Lin is only about x2.

I just recently started the game, maybe 3 or 4 days ago. I'm not getting too involved with the cinco de mayo event except maybe for Lola.

What girls are kinda universally agreed on as being the best?(as in stat-wise for combat, what ones are best to use for challenges).
If there is such a thing as best in the game that is... I've read through some pages of messages here, but.... Aye aye aye, haha. Nothing specific either on what I'm asking.
If it doesn't matter what girl you focus on, great. If it does, I hope Lola is a good one to choose. . . I dont wanna lose the only early-one that I actually like.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just recently started the game, maybe 3 or 4 days ago. I'm not getting too involved with the cinco de mayo event except maybe for Lola.

What girls are kinda universally agreed on as being the best?(as in stat-wise for combat, what ones are best to use for challenges).
If there is such a thing as best in the game that is... I've read through some pages of messages here, but.... Aye aye aye, haha. Nothing specific either on what I'm asking.
If it doesn't matter what girl you focus on, great. If it does, I hope Lola is a good one to choose. . . I dont wanna lose the only early-one that I actually like.

Sorry, the new Lola is nice, (updated), but she is one most people skip at first because of the longer fake it times to complete her. You want to reset early and often at first, and she will slow that down. Sanshi is a good choice, but Ice is probably better. Once you can easily get to higher girls, you might want to change your top girl. I switched to Victoria when I could get longer runs in and finally Indira. Indira is the first girl with 14 positions to film. Girls with more positions will get to higher levels and get there faster. Cherry has one position and is a pain to get leveled up. The level matters because the higher the level, the more you gain from training. When you are starting, your priority is training a girl you can get to. You want to be able to train a girl while you unlock new ones, but then reset to make the whole business faster. Hornypony has posted a number of times on how to handle resets. I wish I had those posts available when I first started out. I was not nearly that efficient.
Oh, and don't worry about that event. There will be more. You can look over the wiki for more info. Hornypony's girl table is there. Really useful information.

Originally Posted by JustMe

Sorry, the new Lola is nice, (updated), but she is one most people skip at first because of the longer fake it times to complete her. You want to reset early and often at first, and she will slow that down. Sanshi is a good choice, but Ice is probably better. Once you can easily get to higher girls, you might want to change your top girl. I switched to Victoria when I could get longer runs in and finally Indira. Indira is the first girl with 14 positions to film. Girls with more positions will get to higher levels and get there faster. Cherry has one position and is a pain to get leveled up. The level matters because the higher the level, the more you gain from training. When you are starting, your priority is training a girl you can get to. You want to be able to train a girl while you unlock new ones, but then reset to make the whole business faster. Hornypony has posted a number of times on how to handle resets. I wish I had those posts available when I first started out. I was not nearly that efficient.
Oh, and don't worry about that event. There will be more. You can look over the wiki for more info. Hornypony's girl table is there. Really useful information.

Thank you firstly for responding. And yeah I was wondering with the Fake It times a bit. Lola does have that pesky 30min restaurant one in the end.

I haven't been resetting like crazy yet. Should I be every few hours/12-hours/24-hours? Currently I've been doing it every couple days. Im at a x14 speed for now, with a 26% boost that can be added to it currently.
Almost have enough gems to get my first 8x time warp, just have to unlock Senshi & get about 75 more challenge wins.

Since I only need about 17 hours to get my Art of Sex skill to the next level to finally be able to unlock Senshi(and the 4th cash building), I won't reset until I do. Shorter wait than if I were to reset now and start from scratch. Once I do though I will begin resetting more often if it's advised.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What girls are kinda universally agreed on as being the best?(as in stat-wise for combat, what ones are best to use for challenges).

On a lot of points in the game there are diminishing returns at work. Some from math, some from the developers artificially inserted. That means, the longer you play, the less difference is between the girls. The math diminishing return for leveling a girl hits you somewhere around stats for positions of 60-80, give or take. It just means, now you need several filming 10 hour sessions to increase her stamina by 1. And a girls stamina is the sum of her positions level. Lola only has 2. You should be able to bump her to 200+, but it will take a lot longer than getting Ice (4 positions) to that stamina or Indira (14 pos). At 200 stamina the formula how a girl gets practice stats changes. You still get more stats, but the difference between 100 and 200 stamina is huge (my 103 Lola gets 23k and my 197 Sanshi gets 38k stats), but after that the difference is rather smallish (254 Geeky almost gets 40k and my 700+ Indira gets ~47k)

So the best girl for challenge is rather individual. Because there is a factor that complicates things even more. Play time. If you have started training a low girl earlyer you might take too long to reach her stats with a later girl. Lets just compare Sanshi/Geeky with say 40k and a Indira or higher with say 48k stats per 24 hour practise session. There is a 8k difference per day. Or 375 days for 3M stats. In other words, if you train your low girl up to 1M each stat and then finally have a girl with 14 positions and start training her, it will take you over a year to reach your presviously best girl. And training to 1M each stat "only" takes about 75 days.

As far as I know there is no inherent bonus to any girl to beat other girls. Like a rock paper scissiors battle. They each have a different little bonus to stats, but that pales in comparison to the other effects. If one of the stats would be proven to be better than the other stats (I am one of those, that believe all stats are qually important, many believe that Tricks is inferior) and you had access to all girls from starting the game, the girls that have most bonus to that stat and are Indira or higher would be best. Since the battle is server side and even with best stats you can still loose a fight, anectodal evidence is just that. And the differences in stats in challenges are usually so huge, that a 10% bonus to a stat would be completely go unnoticed. Plus, you have to take stamina into account. So you just lost to someone that has a higher Sex Appeal or Commitment? Yeah, that stat must be the cause. But wait, the stamina of the opponent was 20% higher. Maaaaaybe it was because of that...

(If one wanted to get the last bit of usefullness out of practise, one could take into account the bonus the girl has. For that one would have to know the exact relation that would be best, like 200% 100% 50% or 100% 100% 100%. Usually one would have to take into account what each ressource costs and maximize the product of all factors to get the most effect. That is the principle to get the most area in a square or the most volume in a cube. The ressource costs are edge length. And if you do not spend ressource on one of the edges, your rectangle (actually cube, because of three stats) will have less area. Of course, this could all be moot, if they just add all stats together. But since the "edges" all cost the same amount of resource (pracise time) I assume you have to have them balanced to get the most of it. And obviously, if they did make one of the stats more or less important than the others, practise time on that stat would be overpriced. But if they are qually important, one should see the bonus a girl has on the stats as a discount on the ressource cost of practise and adjust spending accordingly to maximize the product of all three again.)

Originally Posted by JustMe

Sorry, the new Lola is nice, (updated), but she is one most people skip at first because of the longer fake it times to complete her.

Plus, she only gives reset bonus, if you actually complete her.

If you have the time, do every girl. If you do not have the time, for example because you want to reset as early as possible, one should only do the highest scenes of the highest girls anyway (skipping Cherry too. Sanshi and Ice are usually needed, because with only 10 minutes fake it you can unlock a higher girl)

Originally Posted by WolfyBaby

Should I be every few hours/12-hours/24-hours?

That early you might do resets without doing fake its. After that, the highest you can go in maybe an hour. If you do not complete Lola, do not do any scenes frome her. You have more options, after you bumped warp. There are ... I like to call them walls. One is Ice and the next Frecly. To overcome those "walls" you will want to have more warp.

Thanks for all the info.

I have Ice already, so that's someone to use over Lola in terms of easier leveling. Though it takes me some 2-3 hours to unlock her upon resetting for the time being.
I don't think my Lola will be too hard to work past for now haha, not much to say good of at just lvl14 with her highest stat(commitment) at 2.8k. But hey, I won't hate on her at all. She has already gotten me to rank 15 in challenges. All just small-fry up to this point, some have staminas going as high as 50, but their fighters stats are just basic 100-300's -- a couple now I've seen in these higher ranks having 1 or 2 stats at about 900, but still no contest as I'm winning all my fights 10x(sometimes) or 20x(most of the time) faster.

I too agree on keeping all 3 stats worked on. Just have always been that way in games where you control stats, keep it all as equal as possible. I raise them as Commitment>Sex Appeal>Tricks in that order, but that's just my preference.

And I am active and plan to continue being so, so I will just pick up working on someone better(like my Ice) on top of Lola, should the need for them ever arise. Lola will remain my main though out of favoritism haha. Also Ice's freaking wardrobe is too flipping expensive for me at this point in-game. I only have the 150M on me now thanks to all these nonstop ranked matches I'm winning, but I'd need around 10x that just get her whole wardrobe without going broke, so... Not happening yet lol.

And huh... Thanks for the reset advice. I will follow that and see how it pans out once I get what I want done on this playthrough. Hope I won't have to do that for very long as it'd mean I can't focus on challenges and films.

Originally Posted by WolfyBaby

I have Ice already, so that's someone to use over Lola in terms of easier leveling. Though it takes me some 2-3 hours to unlock her upon resetting for the time being.

I am talking about completing Ice. I think one gets to Geeky without completing any girls. But this might be dependent on your skill levels or completion of scenes. Lola gives as much bonus as Cherry, the problem is, you have to complete her. If it did not get changed, she only gives anything if completed.

If you do not want to look into a table to compare values' worth of scenes, the distribution is very, very roughly like this: Each girl is worth 1.0 more than the previous and the scenes grow like 1 2 ... 9 10. So scene 10 is worth 5 times that of scene 2 of the same girl. But only a little more than scene 9. Scene 1 of girl 8 is worth 8/7 times scene 1 of girl 7.

So the highest scene of the highest girl is always preferrable, but not if you have to wait hours for the money or skill or even fake its.

She has already gotten me to rank 15 in challenges. All just small-fry up to this point, some have staminas going as high as 50

That is fantastic. It means, the matching got a lot better.

I too agree on keeping all 3 stats worked on. Just have always been that way in games where you control stats, keep it all as equal as possible.

Yes. And no. I did a calculation once under the false assumption, the combat here was like in a typical rpg, with speed, strenght and crits with double damage. If it were like this, crit would be useless. Since all stats cost the same. But it is not like this, so .. no clue. Speed and Strength (if they really do work that way) are typically multiplicative. Meaning you have to have a 100% 100% balance to get the most out of your ressource allocation to raise those stats. For "dps" it does not matter if you hit harder or more often, but in the extreme if you hit very often but not hard or hard but seldom, you loose effectifnes. The geometric explantion is the rectangle that has the most area with the least edge length: equal edges or a square.

So, the question is, how does Tricks really value into this? I did not see the formula that apparantly was visible for optics quite a while ago on client side, but as I understood it, they mangle all into a single roll, decide the winner and play a "combat" animation that fits.

Maybe combat will get more intersting, once they release those cards, that are coming soon since the game was released.

Lola will remain my main though out of favoritism haha.

I wonder if it is possible with Cherry too. The game mechanics say, if you choose Cherry, you will have half the combat stats of other girls that train equally long than your girl. With Lola this is true too and with Sanshi, at leat for quite a while, but they are easier to get to 200+ stamina, where the difference between girls shrink.

None of my girls has a position stat of over 100. Highest might be 88 or so. The problem is, the devs have an arbitrary table for the girls exp for postions. So I and probably most players do not know, how much exp is needed after 100. If it is linear after 100 you can train Cherry to 200. If it is exponentially from 90 to 100, you will have a very hard time to bump Lola over 200.

Also Ice's freaking wardrobe is too flipping expensive

Get event outfits. They cost nothin. And if you do not have the valentines lingerie they are the best you can dress your girl in anyways - including diamond bought accessoires. (Maybe there are better combinations without valentines lingerie, but I did not pay attention. Scroll up, there was a discussion about that).

Hope I won't have to do that for very long as it'd mean I can't focus on challenges and films.

You can reset as much as you want, it will give you bonus. But math says, you will reach a point where you will need a certain amount of time to double your current reset bonus value. If that time is too long for your patience you hit your reset limit. My arbitrary limit is a month and that gives a reset bonus value of ~3000 to aim for. The rest of game bonus has to come from warp.

And if you choose your main girl from page 1 (or maybe 2), you can rather easily reset and complete her and do filming, practising and challenges.

If your game bonus is decent, you can reset and have Ice/Sanshi compete in a challenge in under the 20 minutes it takes to do the next challenge. Extend that to 4 hours if you want to do 2x 10 hour filming and 2x8 and 1x4 hour practise and you can have late page 2, early page 3 girls as your main girl. Provided your game bonus is high enough.