Thread: Fap CEO

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well a cap would at least be better than just gutting the drop rate. Does that make the key drop furniture useless now though? Leveling it up will just run you into the cap faster.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... now I want those shares back and put into a different decoration.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looks like they put in a hard cap of 200 keys per day.

What is the need for 200 keys in a day? I've had nowhere close to that and have unlocked 119 photos.

u guys notice that ingrid has been reworked ?

Originally Posted by Doctorwhoa

What is the need for 200 keys in a day? I've had nowhere close to that and have unlocked 119 photos.

You can actually get diamonds from chests, albeit a very low chance, but if you open enough, you could get quite a few. They probably lowered the diamond rate from chests, too.

People were farming several thousand keys per night and then opening tons of chests, thus artificially inflating their diamond count for basically free and buying stuff like multipliers, daily. I have to assume that's how some are able to sell their company in mere minutes now without spending hundreds of dollars on the game.

I'm not sure what's "artificial" about making use of the only renewable source of gems in the game. Really even at the old rate it was pretty slow compared to getting gems in Clicker Heroes, to use the first example to come to mind. AND they've been made far more important here with the growth system for purchased multipliers and how little selling the company alone accelerates your progress after a while.

Hello everyone,
I tried to search in the thread with no success, so I'll try to ask this question here.
I noticed that there has been an important update, and the girls don't seem to differ anymore for basic income, and no information about it is being shown anywhere in the game. Does it mean that now the order and the skill of the girls just depends on the order you hire them? Or is there more to it?
For example, if I set Nova at place #11 and Alexis at place #4, do they have certain basic incomes and multipliers that would just swap if I swap their positions?
Thank you, I'm a new player having lots of fun.

It only matter the order you hire them. Now it doesn't matter on the girls, the desks are now the driving force, where desk 1 is similar to old amber and desk 11 is best moneymaker (judy).

Here is a list on how the desks compare to the old girls:

desk 1: amber (1 rps)
desk 2: sara (10 rps)
desk 3: chloe (60 rps)
desk 4: lisa (240 rps)
desk 5: alexis (980 rps)
desk 6: mrs. ryder (5.88k rps)
desk 7: ayumi (47.04k rps)
desk 8: lizzie (282.24k rps)
desk 9: amanda (2.03m rps)
desk 10: nova (12.19m rps)
desk 11: judy (117.05m rps)

Originally Posted by tt1000

It only matter the order you hire them. Now it doesn't matter on the girls, the desks are now the driving force, where desk 1 is similar to old amber and desk 11 is best moneymaker (judy).

Here is a list on how the desks compare to the old girls:

desk 1: amber (1 rps)
desk 2: sara (10 rps)
desk 3: chloe (60 rps)
desk 4: lisa (240 rps)
desk 5: alexis (980 rps)
desk 6: mrs. ryder (5.88k rps)
desk 7: ayumi (47.04k rps)
desk 8: lizzie (282.24k rps)
desk 9: amanda (2.03m rps)
desk 10: nova (12.19m rps)
desk 11: judy (117.05m rps)

Its not quite that simple. The girls still have the same cost to raise to the next tier as they had before. I still think they should be placed in the best order from before. I haven't tried it but I don't think you want Amber sitting in desk 11. There's a sweet spot for each girl that matches their ability to go to the next tier for the least money and yet bring in some coin. Most of that money is going to come from desk 11 and I think its still the best choice to put Judy there.

Thanks tt1000.

Originally Posted by Doctorwhoa

Its not quite that simple. The girls still have the same cost to raise to the next tier as they had before. I still think they should be placed in the best order from before. I haven't tried it but I don't think you want Amber sitting in desk 11. There's a sweet spot for each girl that matches their ability to go to the next tier for the least money and yet bring in some coin. Most of that money is going to come from desk 11 and I think its still the best choice to put Judy there.

I've made some trials to find out: it's actually the same thing, every girl you put in #11 gets the same starting salary and the same upgrades as anyone else you would put in the same position. User tt1000 guessed right. You can now put whoever you prefer in the last position and she gets the best skills.
Hooray for Dominique.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People were farming several thousand keys per night and then opening tons of chests, thus artificially inflating their diamond count for basically free and buying stuff like multipliers, daily. I have to assume that's how some are able to sell their company in mere minutes now without spending hundreds of dollars on the game.

No. For one thing, the stuff you can buy for money is rather worthless in game terms. Granted, you will save a week or two, if you buy early.

And second these kind of games hit something that is called diminishing return.

It is either artificially implemented or a consequence of the math involved or the arbitary growth tables they use.

Consider shares per company sell. This is a constant. (Yes you can farm past 5000 lvls but this is not beneficial, unless you will log off anyways).

With this constant you buy and lvl decos. Most of those decos have both kinds of diminishing returns.

The artificially one is the more or less rapid growing cost to lvl the decos.

The math one is the effect of some of them: Additive growth of a multiplication factor gives diminishing returns by nature. (To the extreme: adding 1 to a x3 gives you a x4 and thus an increase in 33%. adding 1 to a x10 gives a x11 and only a 10% increase. Even if buying this +1 costs always the same, it will be worthless at some point.)

The first ~10 lvls are easy. The next ~10 rather hard. Then maybe 10-30 lvls easy again and now you should hit the point where you can click your way through a company sell (if you want to) in less then an hour. Much less if you use the keyboard mouse or a rapid fire mouse and of course the donuts and time skips at certain phases to overcome a hurdle. Buying the Big Black One for Girl #3 and #11 is such a hurdle. After that, if you hit a private show on those and you buy the next upgrade for Girl #3 and still have a Private show, you can buy max on all the other girls and sell the company.

Of course, you should not waste your shares on leveling the useless decos. You should level them for their prestige, but only as long as they are cheap. Reply timer is useless. Base cost reduction is good. Plus shares is obvious. Stock is only good to lvl until you can use the market and you only needed it, if you got stuck in the first few company levels. Some decos even max out at 26. Others are insanely expensive to level past 20.

But now what? Hypothetically the constant of selling the company would get increased by faster and faster intervalls of selling the company. But waaaaaait a moment. This is supposed to be an idle game. At least that is what I thought it was. I have no intention of running my computer day and night and selling the company several times an hour. (And through diminishing returns I know, that would not even give me much bonus. I would need over 10 company resets to increase the "good" deco by 1 and this +1 would yield maybe a +1% in speed. No, thank you. (And this is why double shares is a stupid way to spend your gems! The only time this is somewhat usefull, is early game when the diminishing returns have not yet screwed you.)

Originally Posted by Doctorwhoa

The girls still have the same cost to raise to the next tier as they had before.

No.

Originally Posted by sassi9

You can now put whoever you prefer in the last position and she gets the best skills.

Yes.