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    I almost got Bush Clover when I was searching for substitute for Twinleaf. She seems good but I don't really know actually. I guess she will work as long as you give her Slice/Blunt/Magic type and a bunch of crit buff. And a good amount of skill act obviously.
    She is far from Ancient Knights but almost every girl is far from them. It doesn't meen she can't be a good DPS if you use her with the right allies. Actually, I think a lot of girl can be as good as Ancient Knights on a specific point but they just can't be as good on every aspect. Ancient Knights are above everything because they are very versatile and shines on many aspects.
    I took a look to videos of that guy (thanks for sharing) and there is actually good ideas outside of spaming Bloss. It's really a hard work to make girls works perfectly supporting eachother.

    I wont say Bush Clover is Sparaxis but better. She may turn better in the right team but they just don't exactly share the same role. As I said Sparaxis can be used to trick high def/medium HP enemies when Bush Clover can't. And Sparaxis is way more badass (never forget, it's a waifu game. Waifu factor is as important as combat).

    Back to Bush Clover. Start with Spring Star (school) and Dusty Miller (school) and maybe Ash to cover more attributes. And someone with x1.36 skill act to add a bit more skill. Bring Bush Clover to 200% affection and full basic ampule (at least) and she may start to do the job.

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    Info of 2 new Valentine units for discussion, much simpler than Bloss's:


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    That's interesting I guess. You should like that less HP more damage thing. Not bad but I guess I'll pass. I like staying alive.

    Also, Valentine Knot Weed is byuable in the wharehouse for 90oo FG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maotd View Post
    That's interesting I guess. You should like that less HP more damage thing. Not bad but I guess I'll pass. I like staying alive.

    Also, Valentine Knot Weed is byuable in the wharehouse for 90oo FG.
    Yeah, it is quite coincidental we talked about low HP units not too long a ago and the devs delivered, I'm interesting about those units because that was my playstyle high risk high reward, it's great to be able to get Knotweed from the wares tho, guess they keep the legacy.

    Good thing they're trying to add something new to the meta, because low HP can be meta if they push as hard as enmity units in GBF. Basically all they need are:
    - Someone to protect them with a shiled like Adlay
    - Lower HP = Tankier => The shield gets harder to pierce through
    Last edited by NBPEL; 02-13-2023 at 11:46 AM.

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    I didn't expect Knotweed being in the shop but that's great. It makes another easy-to-get rainbow for newcomers.

    It will be better to get someone else instead of Adlay. Regular adlay can't use her full potential in a low HP team (she gives Increase Damage by (Current HP / Max HP) * 100% to everyone. That's too good to not be used). But right now, we don't have as good retain HP as Adlay or Bloss in a certain mesure.
    A girl who work perfectly in that kind of team would be Wolf Berry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (but her page is broken but you can find japanese stuff here: https://ro.luluroom.info/data/0797.html)

    I don't know if lower HP higher shield would really work. But it would with evasion, negate damages and guts.
    If you can get Adlay Valentine, I think there is something to do. Wolf Berry is not hard to get since she is in the regular gacha (could get her from the reroll gacha) and she is a popularity contest winner (available in the popularity contest winner 30Fg gacha).
    Dragon Tree is still a good option. Even better now with Adlay Valentine.

    Adlay with HP drain skill is a problem though. She would be better without it.
    Last edited by maotd; 02-13-2023 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maotd View Post
    I didn't expect Knotweed being in the shop but that's great. It makes another easy-to-get rainbow for newcomers.

    It will be better to get someone else instead of Adlay. Regular adlay can't use her full potential in a low HP team (she gives Increase Damage by (Current HP / Max HP) * 100% to everyone. That's too good to not be used). But right now, we don't have as good retain HP as Adlay or Bloss in a certain mesure.
    A girl who work perfectly in that kind of team would be Wolf Berry (Flower Knight of the Seven Flowers) (but her page is broken but you can find japanese stuff here: https://ro.luluroom.info/data/0797.html)

    I don't know if lower HP higher shield would really work. But it would with evasion, negate damages and guts.
    If you can get Adlay Valentine, I think there is something to do. Wolf Berry is not hard to get since she is in the regular gacha (could get her from the reroll gacha) and she is a popularity contest winner (available in the popularity contest winner 30Fg gacha).
    Dragon Tree is still a good option. Even better now with Adlay Valentine.

    Adlay with HP drain skill is a problem though. She would be better without it.
    Yeah, I think Knotweed Valentine definitely needs Adlay Valentine to really do something, still she's a very good support regardless with her 70% Def Down for a turn 1 kill and by a artifical tanker for low hit count enemies. Her `[For self] Increase Damage taken by 50%` is really dangerous tho, like it literally ruins everything. While I think Knotweed Valentine is interesting, her weakness is pretty big and needs someone to patch it.

    Wolf Berry looks really interesting, I guess getting her will be my long/short terms (luck-based) project.

    Adlay Valentine is like my game enabler for the future, I'll consider getting her but for now I need to some Japanese bloggers/lab rats to test her for me. I kinda need to know if 100-75% Retain HP will be enough, compare to the normal Adlay, 100% vs 500% is kinda small and I've seen teams with normal Adlay dying to heavy hitting enemies, and even Bloss team can die too, for example at the end of this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=niEzI0yHH5U

    Yeah, any kind of healing/HP drain will ruin low HP setup probably, that's why shield is the way to go, that was a thing in the gacha game I used to play.
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    I didn't notice Knotweed +50% damage taken. I would say it's not a big deal once you're at 1% HP but it will apply on your retain HP and that's annoying. I guess you want to focus on evasion anyway.

    Keep in mind that Adlay Valentine is an exclusive gacha 6* and won't be available in the regular gacha pool. She may be (really) hard to get in the future. If you like her, take her. That's the most important.
    With time, good girls can turn bad (ex. 90% of rainbows and most of promoted girls) and bad girl can turn good (ex. Golden Lace).
    It's hard to decide but if you always wait and see, girls will be useless or outdated by the time you get them. I can make a huge list of girls like that. I wanted them, waited a long time before I could get them, never used them and regret no getting them when they were good.

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