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    Congrats phob. I remember now. This one was a real pain. I don't exacly remember how I managed to do it (something similar with Honeysuckle and Adlay with resurect I guess) but it was very tricky.


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    So Vervain, a limited unit just made a comeback, and both her and Angraecum give Magic pink damage, from my point of view I think Angraecum is better right ? I hope I'm wrong because I kinda want to get Vervain

    And this new unit Sigillaria looks like the best debuffer ever, she alone can bring hell to the enemies, she looks really good too and she's another limited unit god damn.

    That's the problem, so many limited units and summoning is also very expensive, I think I can only afford to summon 1 banner, and I still need to save my FS for Zinnia and Adlay.

    The question is Vervain vs Sigillaria, who is the more useful unit ?

    Also, I just got Tall_Stewartia_(Christmas), she looks okay, okay-ish or am I wrong because I saw her quite a few times in videos of Japanese players, I guess I do underrated her ?

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    Angraecum don't give pink magic damages. Only Vervain and Chamomille can. But she works perfectly with them. Angraecum is made to be used with one of them.
    I don't know who is better. Vervain based team can be the easy answer to several hard fights but is tricky to use. Sigillaria looks great, really. Reminds me the Ancient Flowers (but less broken than Zinnia or Corbett). I would say both of them are really useful.
    That's a very risky bet on the future gacha but I think Sigillaria will came again sooner than Vervain. If I could only pick one, I would try Vervain and keep Sigillaria for her next gacha. But she may came really later, be outclassed during that time or we can get really good girls before that and spend even more FS on them...
    There is way too many limited gacha girls and that's something I don't like at all. In the past, if you missed a girl, you could just pray to get her on regular random gacha. Or force her on special reroll gacha. But now with all thoses limited girls, if you miss them, it's dead until devs decide to bring them back, maybe in one year or more. They could remove the useless regular gacha without increased girl chance and replace it with a special gacha with only limited girls? Or just fill the limited gacha with only previous limited girls instead of regular 6*? Or just drop that limited 6* system (or maybe just keep it for very very specific girls like Ancient Flowers and special main story girls).


    I don't have Tall Stewartia (Christmas) so, I don't know how good she is. I guess she is our average Crit offensive girl like Cactus, Ume, Yarrow (prison island), Dusty Miller, etc. Maybe a bit outclassed in the current meta but not trash as long as you need good crit offense.

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    Like maotd said, you need Vervain or Roman to enable a transform team with Cattleya or Wheat as the damage dealer. Angraecum is optional. Roman works better with Angraecum for what I have used her for. Then you just your best Skill Damage increasers and memories you can with the damage dealer.
    I need to get 75 more gems together and Ill make a run for Sigillaria. Definitely will find use on hard maps for her. Seems like she's a badass version of Aoenium . Easter girls are going to be out of the question this year

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    Wheat? Isn't it Rye? Wheat is that blue girl with Crit turn 1 (good one with Dendrobium though).

    I don't really see Sigilaria as badass Aeonium. Just as a package of all the max debuff at once. I have enough gems to go through her gacha but I hope I won't have to. But unless we got some free gems (or if there is Bunny St Paulia), no easter for me too I guess. I need to keep gems for next 30FG gacha and for golden week reroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maotd View Post
    Wheat? Isn't it Rye? Wheat is that blue girl with Crit turn 1 (good one with Dendrobium though).

    I don't really see Sigilaria as badass Aeonium. Just as a package of all the max debuff at once. I have enough gems to go through her gacha but I hope I won't have to. But unless we got some free gems (or if there is Bunny St Paulia), no easter for me too I guess. I need to keep gems for next 30FG gacha and for golden week reroll.
    Yeah I meant Rye. I guess they both make beer
    Mainly I will use Sigilaria in place of Aeonium when the need arises. Poor Aeonium, days are numbered

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    Yeah, Sigillaria literally caps all debuffs which is kinda insane, her only can cover all debuffs. Being able to cap 70% Def Down is really really good, a huge DPS boost and this is another damage boost source.

    I do think she's at Ancient Knights' level, with her in my team, I just need to run her and the rest I can use buffers, attackers, even defenders..., could be me only and I'm new so I may not yet understand the value of debuff vs buff vs DPS vs tankiness in endgame. Ancient Knights excel at their job, Adlay best defensive, Zinna best buff, Corbett best DPS, Bamboo best defensive, but provides less offensive than Adlay I guess?

    This is hell:



    I found some showcase videos of her:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCl-CgEuxqA
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koIfpxIFTe8
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRml2rTSeJM

    I think she'll improve my Knotweed Valentine team by a lot, literally allows me to remove Swimsuit Angelica+Golden Lace with potential more offensive units. That's something I want to improve.
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    Sigilaria is turn and skill act based while Aeonium is not. I think poor Aeonium still have chances to shine. Not in every single battle but she won't be forever benched like some others.

    I do think she's at Ancient Knights' level, with her in my team, I just need to run her and the rest I can use buffers, attackers, even defenders..., could be me only and I'm new so I may not yet understand the value of debuff vs buff vs DPS vs tankiness in endgame.
    I think it heavily depends on what you're facing and what is your team purpose. Debuff is good but kinda useless if enemies have buffs to counter that (like +100% attack on a high attack stat or +100% precision). As far as I know, debuff only affect raw stats and not stat after buff application. Buff are good if you have a good someone to recieve them. DPS works only if you can survive to deal damages and tankiness is useless if you don't have DPS behind.
    I think there is not an ultimate team to win everything. I think engame is more about balancing and playing around bosses weaknesses (not type weakness but game style weakness).
    And I think Bamboo excels at being meh.

    Speaking of Knotweed valentine, you may want Sedul Easter. She will be available on the 30FS easter gacha. She may worth her 150 gems.

    edit: I just noticed that Sigilaria has the lowest ATK stat of all 6* with only 4407 max (without centies and ampule), folowed by Bamboo's 5036. It's even below the weakest 5* ATK (Showy Baby's Breath with 4466) and only 3 points above the second best 2* (Salvia with 4404 ATK).
    Last edited by maotd; 03-16-2023 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maotd View Post
    Sigilaria is turn and skill act based while Aeonium is not. I think poor Aeonium still have chances to shine. Not in every single battle but she won't be forever benched like some others.


    I think it heavily depends on what you're facing and what is your team purpose. Debuff is good but kinda useless if enemies have buffs to counter that (like +100% attack on a high attack stat or +100% precision). As far as I know, debuff only affect raw stats and not stat after buff application. Buff are good if you have a good someone to recieve them. DPS works only if you can survive to deal damages and tankiness is useless if you don't have DPS behind.
    I think there is not an ultimate team to win everything. I think engame is more about balancing and playing around bosses weaknesses (not type weakness but game style weakness).
    And I think Bamboo excels at being meh.

    Speaking of Knotweed valentine, you may want Sedul Easter. She will be available on the 30FS easter gacha. She may worth her 150 gems.

    edit: I just noticed that Sigilaria has the lowest ATK stat of all 6* with only 4407 max (without centies and ampule), folowed by Bamboo's 5036. It's even below the weakest 5* ATK (Showy Baby's Breath with 4466) and only 3 points above the second best 2* (Salvia with 4404 ATK).
    I summoned for her because she looks so future proof, just it was another sad another bloody summon session and I'm almost out of FS atm, another 11x without getting anything useful sadly, I'll need to be careful from now on if I want to get enough summon currency for Red Flower Lily School, Swimsuit Usagigoke, Hinoki School and Zinnia + Adlay.

    And not to mention Sigilaria can stun lock a target, that ability is pretty OP: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXXHSLLalOI

    But well, I don't think I have enough buffers to make Sigilaria good atm, in my team she barely uses any skill so no summon debuff mechanic, it's probably ideal to give her high Act Again and high skill activation rate, as long as she can do x2 skills per turn, after that things get a lot easier because she gives the whole team 1.5x skill activation rate, but that's something I don't have enough.

    From my POV best Sigilaria comp will look like this:
    - Turn 1 Sigilaria x1 skill -> Act Again -> x1 skill
    - Rest easy.

    I think her build is pretty much the same as Zinna, just give them skill activation rate and act again.
    Last edited by NBPEL; 03-16-2023 at 07:33 AM.

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