Thread: Flower Knight Tactica

Originally Posted by wbread

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I use ampi to strengthen after bloom, but it's expensive

Always use Ampy to lvl up, up to 50. Then use manyus, then evo, then Ampi up to 50, then manyu, then Bloom, then ampy again, and finish with manyus.
Is much cheaper than max girl to L80 and then use ampys.

Allright !
Here we go again !
Since all I need to complete my Elusive counterpunch brigade is Freesia (who will be the pick next ticket I get... or Rainbow medals for that fact), I was tinkering with what I wanna do for Team 3 and Team 4.

Seeing as lately the Super Bosses have Accuracy bonuses, the Evade team suddenly feels much less viable than I thought.
As such I think a masochist kungfu squad of Counter girls might be also necessary
For the last team I think Re-engagement girls would be fun, having chance to act again on every single one could be pretty interesting :3

Anyway - Plans for Team 3 "The thorny roses" or the "Iron Curtain" XD
These are all the Counter attack 6* girls in the game currently:
Red Ginger Slash Counter + Team Speed + Skill Act per lvl
Anemone Pierce Counter, Guard-Guts, Crit, dmg *
Sneezweed Magic Counter, Skill act, dmg, dmg
Mistletoe Pierce Counter, Debuff, Debuff skill, dmg, extra dmg
Appricot Magic Counter, Negate attack, Skill act, dmg
Saffron Pierce Counter, Guard-Guts, Evade, dmg *
Habranthus Slash Counter, Negate attack, Skill act, dmg *
Viola Yukata Blunt Counter, SB, Skill act, Dmg
Ghost Weed Blunt Counter, SB, Skil act, Dmg
Soapworth Magic Counter, self Heal, dmg, debuff, extra dmg per HP *
Apple (Tanabata) Magic Counter, dmg, Renact, debuff

The * symbolizes my picks. Soapworth I already have so I need 4 more girls. Soapchan is not the best but still pretty OK. 3.5x counter, and a chance to heal 1/3 of her HP each turn. To bad she doesnt have Defense/Guard up
Anewaifu (not my waifu but people on FB call her this and it is kinda endearing name mof :3) and Saffron are perfect for this. Honestly Saffron is even better for this than for a Evade team since her Defense/Guard buff stacks so well with Anemones, Giving them 52% Defense Buff and 9,3% Guard rate buff. Both of them have solid 4x and 4.25 counterpunch.
Habrantus is the hidden star here for the Slice type - she has a Negate attack ability like Appricot or Kuuko (Wolfberry), which is TOP skill to have. The extra Skill activation is ALWAYS welcome and while her Counter is slightly weaker, just 3.5 she is overall very solid choice for the team that needs to survive and let the enemy smash itself on them.

That leaves me with last slot open. Honestly I dislike Viola Yukata and Ghost Weed. Viola is not a loli, thats a fckn kindergardner... And ghost weed while visually ok, is the same exact copy of Viola Yukata skills. Neither of those are good choice tbh, so here I am hoping we get more Blunt type girls in the future (there are WAY to many Slash and Magic types). So one slot will be open for the moment - since I have to rely on tickets, this is a project for the next 2 years or so, unless I get Gacha lucky :P thus plenty of time for some new Girls to make appearance, hopefully at some Blunt types with at least one having Counter, and with a bit more luck Counter+Def/Guard up combo.

You already got Nightmaher in dodge team right, I mean I don't see her in counter list here.

I recommended add at least 1 atk debuff girl in here. While she won't provide counter power, 20% atk down is very glaring obvious. Atk down means lesser damage to your girls, thus more counter damage. Especially with your team set up has only 1 skill activation boost now.

For you pick, Saffron and Anemone is solid with their extremely tanky stat and def boost ability. I use them too and see them first hand how powerful they can be. They both have guts and with enough def, this skill will be very reliable in battle.
Habranthus has damage negate, this skill can be godsend with overpower boss. She is also a slash ver. of Apricot, with weaker raw stat but higher skill damage multiplier.
Soapwort might be very valuable with her skill activation down on enemies. But I don't know enemies skill rate so I don't know if it actually reliable or not. How was this ability in battle? I hardly saw Soapwart in any helper party so I can't tell. She got super counter however and 7.5x is nothing to laugh at.

So if it among the list I will go with... Red Ginger.
The reason is right now you team is pretty much on slow side with Anemone drag the team speed down. So extra 150 can compensate on that along with her 700 spd. And while you need some skillbloom her 1.36x will help you team use skill much more often. Unless you want to rely on counter damage only. But a healthy mix of both will help you more than rely on just one. And without Viola or Ghostweed you just have to give up on full rainbow anyway. So with this we have 2 slash, 2 pierce, and 1 magic. Mistletoe is a great alternative especially if you don't care about skill activation since she can debuff, skill deact, huge boost on atk that great on dragging battle. But it will end up with 3 pierce and if skill deact is really do the job, then the counter role will fall on Saffron alone since she is the best suit with provocation over others while the rest will mostly just use normal attack to chipped away HP.

For debuff girl if you care, for blunt there is Ivy, but she doesn't have skill act. she boost damage in boss battle however. Epidendrum is also a very solid choice with her ability set and will help your team against slash type boss. She will make your team becomes slow as turtle however.

Yeah Nightmaher is solid part of my evade team, and honestly in this Nidhorogg missions she has been the lynchpin of the whole team. Very happy to have her.

I never watched Soapchan specifically, she is the super counter machine that heals up regularly, the skill act down on enemies, never really paid attention to it.

Honeslty I have hard time finding appeal in Debuff girls. Frankly I dont like debuff girls, I think its a weak skill and doesnt do much ( I might be wrong here of course this is just my observation, not actual experience from testing it).
I see where you are coming from with Red Ginger. Though I dont want 2 Slice types, because I already have 2 Pierce types, thus I cant get one of each.
I will go take a look at the debuff girls, if there are any worth of note, though as mentioned before, Its hard sell for me. But you have a point, I suppose if there was a good Atk Debuff + Skilla act. girl that might be worth adding into this team.
Honestly it will be a while before I get even started on that team, so the last girl is still not decided upon. Worst case scenario I will forget getting one of each type and just roll without Blunt type.

The best way to show you how debuff can affect counter team need to be shown in raid boss event since there are plenty under controllable elements like boss lv. and weakness. But we talking about 2.5m vs 2m here. (replace Epidendrum with Nightmaher)

Or well, I guess only Wutan would be able to tell you how good or bad the team actually is, I can only give some on how debuff help counter more effective here.

Edit: Damage comparison, but be sure to take into mind that Saffron is the key here. The longer she can dodge means she can dish more counter. We need more sample space here, that's obvious.

and one without debuff

Just 1 team against lv.235 raid boss.

Interesting.
Now you have Fenix chan, so the ressurection thing is still big deal in those numbers, but yeh I suppose a 20% dmg debuff for a beefy boss might make the difference between one shotting someone and having to attack twice to kill em.
I shall give this a long thought and browse through the whole FKG list again to see which debuff girls would work out for me since I might slightly alter the rest of the team if necessary to accomodate the idea of a different skill type girl.

About Debuff Girls:

In my opinion Debuff Girls + Life Leach work extremely well together.

The only reason i was able to beat all those maps is my Debuff Squad featuring Stewartia.





She has 50 % Skill Activation and heals 2000-3000 Life Points via Skill. Even if the other Girls die she still has the 70% Atk Debuff going for her cause the Debuff is applied before the battle begins.

None of my Debuff Girls are maxed atm. cause i max my Crit Squad first.

My future Debuff Squad is build around Kerria.



Golden Lace has the provoke Ability and Kerria is using the Overheal Ability (More HP=More Damage). I still need one more Debuff Girl with 20 % Atk Debuff and Skill Act.

After i maxed out Kerria and gave her 3 Dressblooms and 4 Skillblooms she will reach a Skill Activation Chance of 50%. Coupled with her Dodge Ability she will be a force to be reckon with.

Does a Debuff Girl help Counter Squads??? Sure it does but Debuff Girls only reach there max potential if you go full Debuff Squad in my opinion.

For a good Debuff Squad you have to invest a lot and you need a really specific Setup. But after you acquired all the neccesary pieces it will crush almost all enemies the game is throwing at you.

I will provide you with more data after my Debuff Squad is complete. Since i need a Debuff Girl with 20 % Atk Debuff (cap is 70%) and Skill Act. my only choice imo is to go with Swimsuit Epidendrum.

Right now what I want to know is what team can actually beat one heck of a boss that is Nidhogg. Right now whether it's kodaibana or whaleship is just a breeze (okay not so much) But the last event just kick my butt so hard. Well just to 'prepare' in case of such a broken stage like that was to introduced again.

I'd wait until we get details about rarity promotions later this month before making any plans.

I wouldn't expect promoted rainbows to be all that good. For broken maps or bosses you will still need a team of "real" ones.