View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

    0 0%
  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
  • B-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • C-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • D-Tier

    1 8.33%
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  1. #91

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    Let's go.
    I have her for a while last year whlie I stealing borrow my friend account.
    As a spoiler Saboten is the first knight I give S rank.
    Why....?

    She's quick. Very quick with 695 speed.

    She has very low HP and can't recover herself, but she doesn't need it.
    Because she can deal 5x double damage in every turn... at least almost.

    The 60% re-act is very high in my real battle.
    I saw her do double action in most of the fight.
    Don't need to tell that if she active her skill what will happen.

    She also has critical dmg & rate boost passive, in right place she will produce tons of damage.
    And with a lot of adjustment now, it not that difficult to build around her at all compare to Red Ginger speed buff.

    Her only down side in passive is the crystal drop passive that seem to be useless nowadays.
    But with only 3 passive she already a monster.

    Again she's S class knight.


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    I`ll make this quick.
    Cattleya still a C for me, just as we spoke on Discord Wut.

    Cactus - everything has been said already. Neutral A tier for me.

    It seems like some people are considering A tier to be .... weak ? Guys S tier is BROKEN only girls. Its a tier reserved for bullshit characters like Kerria and Saffron (and a very few, select additional ones).
    A tier is the HIGHEST tier as far as balance, design and overall performance go. Any girl who can be A tier is amongst the strongest girls available.
    There is no shame in being very strong, but not broken. Thats the point > Broken is not a positive meaning, and is only viewed positive since its a game where you as a player get your hands on the broken stuff. In most other games its usually you facing the Broken not having it.

    The crystal drop kills her S tier potential completely, just like it does with my strongly anticipated Waifu Mei.

    Thus the reason I am saving myself the time not repeating what has been said. You bet your shiny breaches, I`ll go full writer mode on her once we get to Mei, seeing as she was my very first Waifu in FKG and the very first girl I spend money to get.

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    To be honest everything from S-Tier to B-Tier is a win in my book.

    What's more important than the strength of one girl is the overall synergy of the squad in my opinion.

    About Cattleya:

    I know we talked about it. Still unsure though.

    It's tough. She still only has three usefull Abilities to be honest (Solar Gauge and all that stuff "sigh") but she came very very close to the power of BB and BB has barely managed to become a B-Tier Girl. Cattleya is more consistent in her Atk-Buff but has one less usefull Ability.

    I still need time for that decision. BB is B- for me. Don't know about Cattleya yet. Either C+ or B-.

    They are both Sweeper Rainbows with high Atk. Buffs for the whole group just like Maple.

    Both of them get heavily outclassed by Maple in my opinion.

    Maple has the better version of Skill.Act, consistent Atk-Buff (50% for the whole party without a condition like BB), 45 % Skill Damage for herself (which makes her hit three enemies for x4,06 Damage) and she has 45% Atk Buff for herself in addition to the other three Abilities.

    Maple is in my opinion either one of the strongest B-Tiers (B+) or one of the weaker A-Tiers (A-). Also still unsure about that.

    I often times question myself if i made the right decisions in my votes

    It's hard
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    This thread is for discussion individual vision on individual Knight right?
    So someone broken knight may not be other broken knight.

    Now we start to add Waifu Ability or How cute they are to judge knight tier.
    So meaning of Broken may go wider too.

    More important, this is all for fun.
    In the end even I know there're tons of strong girls out there, but I still have to stick with girls I own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wutan View Post
    It's hard
    No its not

    Fuck that tsundere wannabe. C+ is good enough for her.

    Also twilight is right in that factoring in the "waifu-ism" (so no S tier Red Ginger I am sorry lads) messes up the overall relatively unbiased evaluation.

    Thus if its a Waifu for the person, you should always do split score. If its not a waifu thus your review is not skewed towards higher tier because of personal likes you dont need to include it.
    Power/Balance Score: X
    Waifu Score: S++++++ because Helenium, and and because Mei and and because Victoria, a-and Aizoon of course !!! And, and,and..... you get what I mean

    And yea, this is still mostly for the fun. If we for some miraculous reason get an influx of new DMM FKG players, they can refer to this and the Tactica thread, since we do all the "research" in here, thus its a lot of valuable info accessible by anyone, anytime all the time, but ultimately it is mainly for fun so in short > Dont sweat it *thumbsup*

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    Best case scenario would be if we had a whale like Allocer here of course.

    A guy who has all Rainbows maxed out and available. Comparisons would be so much easier

    About Waifu traits in this thread:

    Well i wrote in the rules all voters should eliminate as much bias as possible.

    Either if they like the girl, are indifferent to or dislike the girl.

    I accept eliminating all bias is impossible cause it's human. Therefore i won't forbid others to write about waifuism if they want to. As long as it won't become repetetive where someone says in every other vote:

    "Rhubarb Barbara is the best Waifu cause she makes the best Rhubarb Cakes south of the Mississippi " i don't have much of a problem with it (Waifuism shouldn't influence the overall voting to much of course).

    I just hope all votes are reasonable and fair

    Personally i won't speak about any waifu qualities here cause my posts are quite long and i try to seperate as much as possible between Unit and Girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wutan View Post
    Personally i won't speak about any waifu qualities here cause my posts are quite long and i try to seperate as much as possible between Unit and Girl.
    Hearing those cold words from the one she loved the most, her head lowered ever so slightly. While still trying to keep up a brave front, she felt a little sting of pain in her chest. Turning her face to escape his sight...
    Mapple cried...
    just a little...
    inside her heart


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    Bad Wutan mofu >:3 making waifus cry fufu ! >:3
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    Didn't you know,bud?

    Maple likes Cold Hearted Assholes What is the term for a male Tsundere???

    Just kidding of course

    I could make a seperate Waifu Appreciation Thread to praise her awesomeness.

    But Maple should already know how much i love her considering she got a lot of competition in form of Corn Cockle, Foxy (Miko) and Habranthus. She is still my number 1.

    Heck you made an awesome Signature for me. I could have choose every other Girl. That alone shows how much i like her ;D

    But enough of this...Back to serious Voting Business
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    Voting score can be differ from 2 reasons as I see in the forum here.

    1. Waifuism and thus biased. It's unavoidable but at least don't make it super obvious.
    2. You have/don't have the girl. When you have the girl and use her all the time in various build up you can see potential or weakness much clearer than one who doesn't have her. That's why I always mark 'paper only' to indicate that my rambling come from text and data only. Never use the girl myself or at least rarely use via helper team. I also separate extra section as I note, a more subjective view that could do or have nothing to do with waifu factor. Just whatever things that first come to mind when talking about her.

    Whatever it is, just chill and go with what you think. Grading like this can plus or minus one without problem. It's not like someone just barge in and said 'Kerria suck and deserve rank D/E because I said so' If the dissonance become severe like that, then we can talk later.

    PS: Finally decided to give Cattleya a B It's somewhere around C+ and B- but since I don't have her I will give her credit by rounding up rather than down.

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    From now on I'll use your "paper only" mark as well in the future if you don't mind ;D

    I wish Helper Squads would have more meaning in late game. They are really helpfull if you are a new player or for Whaleships. But that's about it.

    Sadly you can't bring Helper Squads to the hardest maps cause often times they are just forbidden there.

    Also on normal story maps or Event maps we can't test the real strength of someones Helper Squad (or a specific Rainbow) cause the pests are way to weak there...
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