View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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    Well maotd already said a lot you need to know about Vanilla Cattleya.

    Maybe you will find some additional info in my vote.

    Stats: High Attack, n1 defence, low HP. She needs Attack for her Skill set. The other two stats are not that important for her.

    Skill: Like maotd said x2,4 damage to all enemies is probably the best part about Cattleya. Thumbs Up

    Abilities:...and here we are. 50% Light Gauge...Hmmm since she is no Solarblast Girl the only incident where this would come in handy is Whale Ship Battles. Not a fan.

    Increases Attack for 3 Party members by 40%. That's an overall group atk increase of 120%. I am not a fan of random buffs since you want to buff your hardest hitting girl in the group and RNG buffs do not always provide that.

    X1,2 Skill Activation is definetely good but it's also rather standard for a lot of 6*. The rare superior Skill Activation Ability (1,36 multiplier based on Skill Level) would do good for her overall usability.

    18% Skill Damage for the whole group is the highest grp Skill Damage buff in the whole game atm. So Cattleya fits in a Skill Damage Team build around Maple or/and promoted Anemone (Radiant Princess). Sadly her other buffs (atk buff and filled Light Gauge) are really lackluster compared to other Skill Damage Girls and that's the reason she is outclassed in this specific archetype and other archetypes as well.

    Conclusion: Cattleya suffers from being an old Rainbow. Due to the Powercreep she is outclassed in "Good Stuff" teams and also specific archetypes she tends to fit in (Skill Damage). Her Radiant Princess Form is definetely the much better version of her. Lets hope she gets a n1 buff in the near future. She would definetely benefit from a fifth Ability.

    My Vote: Sry Cattleya it's only C-Tier for me.
    Last edited by Wutan; 06-03-2018 at 05:29 AM.

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    Cattleya was my first 6* on DMM, and early on she served me well. Now...

    She deals tons of damage due to her high base attack, high attack % buff and having both skill activation and damage buffs. But she's a glass cannon with very low HP. When I still had her in my main team, on harder maps 90% of the time she was the first one to die - with or without Ooonibasu/Maher to tank for her. Last but not least, her 50% Light Gauge passive... Outside of one very specific team setup, it's borderline useless.

    She's a really good early pick, and Cattloli is top tier waifu. But in the end, she's your everyday average Joe. C tier.


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    Cattleya... got milk? I can see why she is very popular especially among Japanese players who started out with the game. For early game, she just absolutely wrecks everything. I was not surprised when I often saw her on helper teams in the lower levels. But as I've seen, the devs try to balance the girls out when created. So there are both pros and cons. Cattleya is a glass canon in every sense of the word. She has a great attack stat, but they gave her low health and average defense to even it out. Her abilities with the light gauge is also good for FKG beginners just starting out who may need to use the solar blast more frequently because those people are still dealing with many 2-4* girls. It's toward the veteran player spectrum that she begins to lose a lot of her luster even with her AOE attack. I still think she is viable, but only if you have her on a very strong team that can at least knock a good chunk of health off before she comes in to clean up the rest.

    I can see why everyone went with what they did but I have to slightly disagree because of her early game strength to help beginners until they reach veteran status. So I give her a B-

    Pervy sage mode activated! Now for looks she is top notch! Every stage of her artwork is beautiful and seems to contain a vibrant energy. Personally the artist of her (Utsurogi Akira) is probably one of the better artists on FKG, 2nd only to the best Moneti. She's a beautiful redhead with a full figure that would drive any man wild with lust. While having one of the bigger oppai chests of the rainbows, it is all kept in balance with a tall figure and does not look ridiculous like it can on others. Her clothing is always frilly and beautiful, very befitting a lady. Her affection scene is also great with its artwork and positioning.


    So for personal enjoyment, I give her a ranking of: A
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    I'm not agree that Cattleya power can help newbie...
    Compare in the Newbie Ticket, there are other strong girls that useful than her for newbie.

    She in buff campaign so I'll wait and see she'll get buff or not after today maint.
    Before that I'll put her in C.

    and maint over... no buff for her so I stand my old verdict...
    oh c'mon dev.
    Last edited by twilightdream; 06-04-2018 at 02:33 AM.

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    I wait until maintenance ended on purpose to see if Cattleya got upgrade or not. Turns out it's not her turn to shine yet so I will grade her as is.

    When we talking about poster girl of FKG, Cattleya comes to mind as 6* one. Well at least back in 2015-2016. She's the oldest girl back when the game first released, and I have to say it has a negative impact on her. Since most of us regular already gives similar view on her, I'll simply give a crush course on grading.

    1.Raw stat: Aside from low HP, she got good atk and sizable def. At least her atk is high and it fit her needed.
    Grading: C+

    2.Skill: Powerful 2.4x, normal chance to activating. If only her abilities would aid her more...
    Grading: B-

    3.Abilities: Maotd said it all, why solar gauge 50%? If BB has ugly duckling ability that is def boost, this one is dead duckling. It's so half-assed that it couldn't even help you fire 1 solar drive. And if you don't play solar drive team, this function is borderline useless even back then and now with powercreep meta the solar drive usage would decline even more besides whale ship stage which help increasing boss break gauge. Or well, if you have Dogwood who directly gain benefit from each drive firing. The rest is nothing to add much since I'm not a fan of random buff. 18% skill damage boost is great but pale compare to some girls who have direct damage boost like Stock or Japanese Anemone.
    Grading: C-

    Final verdict: C She suffered a lot from being an old girl. That said She's not downright bad as no rainbow is bad. But she definitely pale compare to new girls and even old girl with immensely powerful abilities like Kerria. She can be either sweeper or supporter but none of the abilities actually directly geared towards them.

    Extra: Well her arts is absolutely gorgeous though. No wonder why she has so many dedicated husbando. Hot H scenes, big boobs, pink panties, red hair, sexy body, haughty Ojou-sama... well pretty much every god-tier waifu material mold in a shape. I might not have any team dedicated to her but I won't complained if I got her by dumb luck or chance.
    Waifu tier: A
    Last edited by game2534; 06-04-2018 at 05:47 AM.

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    After a lot of C-Votes Cattleya will end up in that Tier for now.
    Maybe she will climb after she gets her buff. We'll see.

    Next Girl:

    http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Ginger
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    Last edited by Wutan; 06-05-2018 at 04:25 PM.

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    Ah sweet Red Ginger! How hard it will be non-biased in assessing you, but let us undertake this venture considering you were my first 6* in DMM FKG and I have ample experience with my rainbow waifu leading the charge.

    Okay first, Red Ginger may appear as another glass cannon. Perhaps even a weaker glass cannon than previously judged girls like Cattleya. Her max HP surpasses BB and Cattleya, but not Dendrobium. Her defense is flipped in this regard as she is superior to Dendrobium but not BB or Cattleya. So this gives off the appearance that she is a bit more well rounded than the others. What may be the biggest downfall for many is her Attack stat, which is weaker than all three. Some may consider this reason to throw her into the trash. NOT so fast, my friends!

    Abilities! Her initial abilities do not appear all that impressive, increasing attack for party members and overall squad speed on the map. But once she's fully bloomed, this beauty begins to show her true wonder that makes up for her attack stat. Increased skill activation rate AND increased damage of said skill for party members by 15%. Need I remind you that Red Ginger's ability is 4.3x damage to one enemy by itself and (here is the key) absorbs HP. Her ability that can do crazy damage if she's also given critical damage boost also is a life steal. And there is MORE. She not only counters 100% of the time, but also can Super Counter. Since she already counters all the time (rather than some that don't), it is only a matter of whether she counters or SUPER counters every single time she is hit. Plus if you pair her with the right units increasing damage and crits, she becomes a wrecking machine!

    I have not fully fleshed her out yet on abilities and jewelry slots, yet let me tell you something. On a team full of rainbows including Anemone, Red Ginger has 99% of the time been the last to fall. With this past first week of the current RB event, my team was frequently up against level 90 12 million HP RB. Often times, the rest of the team fell around the 3 million HP damage mark. Red Ginger by herself finished the remaining 9 million because of how often she triggered her ability and replenished her health. Heck, often times she finished with full health. Now in my experience she falls like the rest against the 2nd week 18 million HP RB, but I believe if I had her more fleshed out she would begin to last a little longer.

    It is for these reasons (truly non biased) of her abilities more than covering her stat weakness and my experience with her on my lead team that I decide her ranking, in which truly makes her barely squeaking into: S Tier

    I know some may scoff or think I'm ridiculous. Initially I was thinking A-tier for Red Ginger. But I looked at the description also of what S-tier is expected and I could see her fitting in that description. And also after seeing what I've written, it has swayed my opinion that she just barely edges into S-rank because I believe she could be approach being broken once maxed out.

    Waifu judgment:
    She is my rainbow ultimate waifu for a reason. Done by one of the best FKG artists, dark-skinned being one of my fetishes, and long lovely blonde hair. She also is so cute with her teddy bear. Some may be put off by her pouty expression. But when you finally see her smile, it will melt your heart. Not to mention the body of a goddess!!! Full hips and large delicious breasts! Sometimes one of the 2 affection scenes of a girl may not be great. BOTH of Red Ginger's scenes are HOOOOOT!!!!!!

    Without a doubt: S-CLASS TIER!!!!!

    *Additional note for Japanese DMM FKG community: How dare you! Shame on you all for giving so many alternate version votes for Cattleya and Anemone whereas Red Ginger has yet to get a 2nd form. Such a travesty!
    Last edited by ShadwNinjaX; 06-05-2018 at 09:56 PM.
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    Back to Cattleya and her buffs:

    Skill:
    Still 34% chance of activation (~41% with her x1.2 skill activation) but now it's 2.9x FIRE damages instead of 2.4x FIRE damages. It's +0.5 FIRE damages. That's good. BUT, not as good as you think. Her skill is stronger yes, but A LOT of girls have stronger skills now. She is better than old Cattleya but in term of skill she is still at the same position compared to the others.
    But that's great anyway.

    Abilities:
    Her worst point in my previous rating. Her 50% Solar Gauge filled is still bad but they fixed that horrible 40% ATK for 3 girls. Now it's 48% for ALL girls. And that's a good thing. She give a better ATK boost and she give it for every girls. No need to rely on RNjesus to see your hero take the boost.
    She could be a better damager and a better support now. And just with that, Solar Gauge filling looks like less important flaw. I mean, if she doesn't have it, I'm not sure she would have all these better boosts.

    Final verdict:
    She is still not a super top tier girl but she is clearly better now. Great as buff support or damages support. Maybe she is not a must have but she is clearly a nice to have now. I give her a B Tier.

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