Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

So it's Saboten turn next. It's will be a couple more until I can give verdict from experience so for now... paper only again.

Saboten is the girl who got lots of rebuff through out the course of the game lifetime. Back then she seriously lacking in many departments that she was branded 'meh' as no one really thrilling getting her. I don't know how things are in Nutaku for her now but in DMM as is now? I think Saboten is one of the most powerful boss killer in the game, that is if under correct composition and support. Now let's take a look at her, the girl who is calm and cool as freezer outside but has a burning passionate inside. (Or as she claimed)

1. Raw stat: Noting so exciting except for her defense. 3500+def is definitely high end and it will help her a lot if she ever gets counter and while her HP is on a low side, she won't fall down TOO quick. (Emphasis on 'too' as she got zero survival ability) The worst part though, is her atk which is low for total offense oriented character. Such a shame...
Grading: C

2. Skill: Sabouten has the highest skill activation at 46% top. Even at lv.1 her rate is similar or even surpass the majority of the girls at 36%. The damage after the latest buff is awesome 5x. Considered how low her atk is this skill is godsend to help Saboten goes 'ORAORAORA' on pests. Combined with her abilities and Saboten has chance to dish out 10x on enemy every turn. And well... what to say besides YES?
Grading: S

3. Abilities: Her atk buff is nothing to say much, 20% buff is very average but definitely not bad. Crit chance and crit damage duo are always needed synergy for crit team. 15% chance is tad low but considered that crit chance capped at 80% and girls with crit buff is like, lying around everywhere now, it's so easy to form a team. 40% crit damage is currently at top game and definitely welcome since this one doesn't have max capped.
The real juicy part of her is the 60% chance to double act. Like I said in skill part, her low atk got covered by this awesome skill+ability synergy. It's 5x at worst and 10x at best when she's under enough skill act boost, and it's much easier than most girls with her high natural skill act rate. Her best spot in the team is obviously the back, or at least after sweeper.
Then there's a completely gimmick part that I don't know why it's here. 30% shine crystal drop rate plus for team is nothing amazing and it's not even worked for whaleship, only for party Sabouten is in. At least her attack got many hits so it generate lots of shine crystals but well... it's nothing to be excited and there's a lots of abilities that would aid her better. One step short from perfection.
Grading: A-

Final verdict: Saboten is strong girl with beastly skill and a great ability to sync with that. She is, however, very dependent for support whether it's atk buff, damage buff, skill activation, or crit to function properly as boss killer. 10x damage is sometimes inconsistent with 60% chance to dish this amazing damage out. Once you geared her properly however, not many bosses can withstand her oraora onslaught. So here, A for her deeds. A little bit to A- side since she needed lots of supports and can't carry the team alone though.

Extra: Not much to say about her, I like her for her skill animation mostly rather than any waifu factors. So well, this is the first thing comes to my mind when seeing her skill.

Cactus. One of the few 6* I have, but on Nutaku.

Stats:
HP: How can I say that... even 5* have more HP than her. Even the thiniestglass has more HP.
ATK: Just like HP. Her ATK stat is depper than Lotus Lake abysses.
DEF: That's a good stat, but with her bad HP it's not useful.

Skill
x5 damages to one enemy with 46% skill act.
x5 damages with 46% skill act.
46% skill act. I'm pretty sure it's the best skill chance of every girls in the game. Just add a little x1.2 skill act girl and she is over 50% skill activation chances.
With x5 damages on one enemy, that's very good.

Abilities
Increases Shine Crystal drop rates for all by 30%.
Just no. Even worse than Cattleya Solar Gauge ability. BUT, that bad ability is usefull for the incomming stuff.

+20% ATK for all
Not the higest buff in the game but it's decent at least. Not good, not bad. It can help the other girls but with her low ATK, it's not that good on herself. But it helps anyway since she will be an hyper offensive girl.

Crit Rate +15% & Crit Damages +40%
The Crit Rate buff is good but not that good but Crit Damage buff is really nice. But she may need other Crit allies to be a solid Crit girl. I mean, she is very solid but with some Crit Chance buf support.

60% chance to Act Again.
Re-act girls are so underestimated. It's a rare and broken ability, espacially on girls like Cactus. 60% is the best chance of react in the game (just behind the 100% but turn 1 only). And THAT'S her hidden trump card.
Without it, she is just a good offensive 6* with high skill chance. With this ability, she is like TWO good offensive 6* with high skill chance, 60% of the time.
Now, use her with the right allies (with Crit,skill act and damages buff) and she will be a monster.
Even a 5* with re-act can be very good if she re-act. A 6* like Cactus with all her assets is just OP.


Conclusion
Despite her poor stats (espacially ATK) and that bad Crystal Drop ability, she has an awesome skill+skill act and a good set of abilities.
Like I said earlier, Crystal Drop help her a lot. Not by itself but it's bad enough to allow her a lo of other abilities to balance it. I'm sure if she had something better, she would not have Crit or the Re-act. And she would be... just good.
That Re-act just make all for her. She can do her job twice ahd she do it well. Her recent Skill damage boost make her even better.
If she is used in the right team, she can be one of the best offensive girls I guess.
I already said that but re-act is a strong underestimated game style. It's a high risk, high reward style due to the RNG and the lack of re-act chance buff but if the re-act occurs, it can totally change a battle.

Final verdict:
A glass canon made of pure glass and pure canon. She could deserve a S-tier for her ridiculous power but I will only give her a solid A Tier. In my opinion, she lacks a little something to be S Tier. A tiny tiny not important thing like... HP drain. For me, the S Tier hare the girls able to survive the hardest battles and carry all the hopes of her dead friends by herselves. Even with that incredible power, Cactus can't do that. If she had just x4 damages and HP drain, she may be able to win against the Death and kick her ass with ORAORAORAORA power.

Cactus is a rainbow I have not had on either Nutaku nor DMM. So this will be interesting.

Initial grading

Stats
Looking at her stats is kind of surprising. Her defense is really awesome. Talk about a wall of a flower knight girl. Unfortunately through, her HP makes that wall not so thick. And her attack is not really bad, but not really great either. That is really disappointing. Why give someone so much defense if they can't do anything with it? I've experience with this on League of Legends as Leona. She can be the tank the drives fear into the other team but she does very little in the form of actual damage. What makes her stand out is her abilities to stun enemies with her abilities. So with disappointing stats, let's look on if Cactus can make it up with her abilities like Leona does.

Abilities
Increasing Attack power for team is noting new or special. Even with the revamping of the Solar Blast, I still do not give it much weight unless you really build a powerful solar team for that sole purpose. But since I am at the stage whether I either annihilate enemies too quick to really consider using it or the enemies are so tough that it doesn't do anything much in the fight. So, unless you are a new player that needs solar blast, abilities like crystal drop are pretty much worthless in my opinion. Critical activation rate is nice ability and the critical damage 40% makes it even better. What really stands out is her 60% chance to act again after attacking. Considering her high trigger rate for her ORAORAORA skill, this can be devastating. So her abilities really do help her out with her lackluster stats.

Against normal enemies, Cactus is going to wreck. Against much stronger that will take more than a couple rounds like Nidhogg battles, she isn't going to last very long at all because of her stats. Unlike a rainbow like Red Ginger who can fit well with just about any team combo, Cactus in my opinion forces you to develop the team around her to make her the most effective; hopefully you have the right girls to do so. A powerful canon yes, but a glass canon that may only survive a couple rounds in higher tier play. Final verdict: B+

Waifu judgment
You don't have a whole lot of green haired beauties in this game, but Cactus is certainly one of them! Physical attributes speaking, I kinda wish her hair was a bit longer and breasts a bit bigger but those are just my preferences. She certainly is a fine looking woman who is also a snazzy dresser. Her outfits in her artwork certainly are colorful and classy. I certainly wouldn't having her as a waifu either. Final waifu verdict: A

Let's go.
I have her for a while last year whlie I stealing borrow my friend account.
As a spoiler Saboten is the first knight I give S rank.
Why....?

She's quick. Very quick with 695 speed.

She has very low HP and can't recover herself, but she doesn't need it.
Because she can deal 5x double damage in every turn... at least almost.

The 60% re-act is very high in my real battle.
I saw her do double action in most of the fight.
Don't need to tell that if she active her skill what will happen.

She also has critical dmg & rate boost passive, in right place she will produce tons of damage.
And with a lot of adjustment now, it not that difficult to build around her at all compare to Red Ginger speed buff.

Her only down side in passive is the crystal drop passive that seem to be useless nowadays.
But with only 3 passive she already a monster.

Again she's S class knight.

I`ll make this quick.
Cattleya still a C for me, just as we spoke on Discord Wut.

Cactus - everything has been said already. Neutral A tier for me.

It seems like some people are considering A tier to be .... weak ? Guys S tier is BROKEN only girls. Its a tier reserved for bullshit characters like Kerria and Saffron (and a very few, select additional ones).
A tier is the HIGHEST tier as far as balance, design and overall performance go. Any girl who can be A tier is amongst the strongest girls available.
There is no shame in being very strong, but not broken. Thats the point > Broken is not a positive meaning, and is only viewed positive since its a game where you as a player get your hands on the broken stuff. In most other games its usually you facing the Broken not having it.

The crystal drop kills her S tier potential completely, just like it does with my strongly anticipated Waifu Mei.

Thus the reason I am saving myself the time not repeating what has been said. You bet your shiny breaches, I`ll go full writer mode on her once we get to Mei, seeing as she was my very first Waifu in FKG and the very first girl I spend money to get.

To be honest everything from S-Tier to B-Tier is a win in my book.

What's more important than the strength of one girl is the overall synergy of the squad in my opinion.

About Cattleya:

I know we talked about it. Still unsure though.

It's tough. She still only has three usefull Abilities to be honest (Solar Gauge and all that stuff "sigh") but she came very very close to the power of BB and BB has barely managed to become a B-Tier Girl. Cattleya is more consistent in her Atk-Buff but has one less usefull Ability.

I still need time for that decision. BB is B- for me. Don't know about Cattleya yet. Either C+ or B-.

They are both Sweeper Rainbows with high Atk. Buffs for the whole group just like Maple.

Both of them get heavily outclassed by Maple in my opinion.

Maple has the better version of Skill.Act, consistent Atk-Buff (50% for the whole party without a condition like BB), 45 % Skill Damage for herself (which makes her hit three enemies for x4,06 Damage) and she has 45% Atk Buff for herself in addition to the other three Abilities.

Maple is in my opinion either one of the strongest B-Tiers (B+) or one of the weaker A-Tiers (A-). Also still unsure about that.

I often times question myself if i made the right decisions in my votes

It's hard

This thread is for discussion individual vision on individual Knight right?
So someone broken knight may not be other broken knight.

Now we start to add Waifu Ability or How cute they are to judge knight tier.
So meaning of Broken may go wider too.

More important, this is all for fun.
In the end even I know there're tons of strong girls out there, but I still have to stick with girls I own.

Originally Posted by Wutan

It's hard

No its not

Fuck that tsundere wannabe. C+ is good enough for her.

Also twilight is right in that factoring in the "waifu-ism" (so no S tier Red Ginger I am sorry lads) messes up the overall relatively unbiased evaluation.

Thus if its a Waifu for the person, you should always do split score. If its not a waifu thus your review is not skewed towards higher tier because of personal likes you dont need to include it.
Power/Balance Score: X
Waifu Score: S++++++ because Helenium, and and because Mei and and because Victoria, a-and Aizoon of course !!! And, and,and..... you get what I mean

And yea, this is still mostly for the fun. If we for some miraculous reason get an influx of new DMM FKG players, they can refer to this and the Tactica thread, since we do all the "research" in here, thus its a lot of valuable info accessible by anyone, anytime all the time, but ultimately it is mainly for fun so in short > Dont sweat it *thumbsup*