Thread: How do you get girl drops from NPC harem battles?

Originally Posted by soviras

It IS a coincidence, that's what random chance is going to result in for some people. You have confirmation bias because you observed something, but that is not a guarantee that you are correct. There are many more people who got girls on every judge, so we can dismiss the "you should only do it with the right judge" thing as the nonsense it is. People like you, who spread this nonsense, are only going to cause harm by making people think they should skip fights when the judges aren't for their specialty and thus having them miss out on the event girls because they only had a fraction of the chance they could have had.

The girl drop chances are fully random, there is no outside factor that improves your chances (not the judges, not the girls you choose, and not whatever other things you might think helps). Everything you observed is a coincidence due to the nature of randomness. Every pattern that people have claimed to observe has been disproved multiple times, including the judges. The only thing that improves your odds is the failed attempt bonus that was added recently, and that doesn't even apply to event girls.

You are also right, everyone should play as they want, but spreading misinformation that causes harm is "not playing how you want", that's sabotaging others.

I'm not spreading false information, just sharing my actual experience with the game, and my conclusions associated with said experience. Something that happens once or twice, or even three times can be disregarded as coincidence, but when it happens over twenty times, it stops being a coincidence and starts to indicate a developing pattern. But rest assured, if I ever get a drop to another judge, then I will be the first to post that my theory was wrong. But until that time comes, the game is proving otherwise.

There is even a youtube video, from an older version of the game, but the guy is trying for Festival Bonnie. He tries 45 times and finally gets her to drop. But if you pay close attention to the judge that drops the girl, it's the Know-how judge that matches his type. He starts off with the Charm and then moves on to Hardcore judge with no luck. Then the when the know-how judge is active that matches his type, the girl drops. It's just one example, but there probably aren't many people who thought it important enough to video their Harem Heroes experience to share with the world.

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Besides, no one is harmed by anyone sharing information and their opinions. If you feel that way, you're taking a stupid game WAY too seriously.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm not spreading false information, just sharing my actual experience with the game, and my conclusions associated with said experience. Something that happens once or twice, or even three times can be disregarded as coincidence, but when it happens over twenty times, it stops being a coincidence and starts to indicate a developing pattern. But rest assured, if I ever get a drop to another judge, then I will be the first to post that my theory was wrong. But until that time comes, the game is proving otherwise.

There is even a youtube video, from an older version of the game, but the guy is trying for Festival Bonnie. He tries 45 times and finally gets her to drop. But if you pay close attention to the judge that drops the girl, it's the Know-how judge that matches his type. He starts off with the Charm and then moves on to Hardcore judge with no luck. Then the when the know-how judge is active that matches his type, the girl drops. It's just one example, but there probably aren't many people who thought it important enough to video their Harem Heroes experience to share with the world.

htt ps://ww w.youtube.co m/watch?v=I7z7sNAM2Vs

(delete the spaces in the link)

Besides, no one is harmed by anyone sharing information and their opinions. If you feel that way, you're taking a stupid game WAY too seriously.

If you spread misinformation that has been proven to be wrong already, that has a chance of causing people to make the mistake of believing it and doing something that lowers their chances. That is you harming their chances and with that their gameplay experience, even if not on purpose.

There are only a few people who claimed that the judges mattered, while there are dozens of people who have gotten drops with all three judges and with screenshots to prove it. Coincidence is a thing with RNG, spreading false information is exactly what you are doing. You keep insisting it's not a coincidence, but it is nothing but a coincidence. You haven't provided any proof for your claims that would hold up against the many screenshots that have been posted in the past and that are still being posted on a daily basis.

While twenty or more times is unlikely and I honestly don't believe you on your word for it (I don't think you actually paid attention to the judges until recently and just saw 2 or 3), it's not even the weirdest or most unlikely thing that ever happened. Anyone looking on the discords screenshot channel would see that most girls dropped on judges that aren't the same as the players specialty (64% during 4 months before the rebalance, similar after so far), and that the drops per judge were more or less equal.

Well, there are 3 judges, so there is 33% chance to have a drop happen on the judge corresponding to your type.

0.33 chance multiplied by itself 20 times gives 2.345734188103679287078463273601e-10, we can now multiply that by 100 to get % value back, which gives us 2.345734188103679287078463273601e-8% (duh lol). We can write it down as less science'y 0.000000023457341881%, or 2.3457341881 times in 100 million.

That is a chance to get a drop from your type of judge 20 times in a row, which assumes of course that there is really no judge to drop chance correlation (aka that there is the same % chance to get a drop at what ever judge is up at the drop moment), and it also counts only actual drops thus ignores failed attempts/fights.

This means that Unregistered dude is so damn lucky he/she should play some real money lottery, or like soviras said is lying/heavily exaggerating.

I personally don't pay much attention to anything while fighting trolls, but I am 99.9% sure I got drops when all 3 judges were up not just Hardcore one.

listen up... you guys say BLA BLA I FIGHT 20 TIMES A DAY FOR 2 WEEKS BLA BLA BLA....

Since the beggininng of this event, I've had a script running on my computer that automatically fights the NPC I choose every 5 minutes, so basically after a while I end up at 0 battle points and the script will simply do nothing 3 out of 4 times because you get a point every 10 mins and you need 2 to do a npc battle, So granted I started the day with 0 battle points... I did 1 fight every 20 minutes for 24 hours straight, thats 72 fights a day and event's been going on for 11 days.... that means I did nearly 800 fights and out of all of thoses, I got 0 girls. Sure when I'm ACTUALLY on my computer I set the script off so it doesnt annoy me by taking control of my screen and opening pages while I'm watching a dragonball super video, but usually I think about doing my battles every 2 hours or so so I haven't missed that much fights.... but on the weekend where I leave from friday after dinner till thuesday morning and during the week when I sleep, I'm never missing a single battle, I'd say I'm very very close to an average of 68 battles a day. That's still 750 battles so far and still nothing.

I'm starting to think when you're too strong the NPC dont drop girls anymore... Because I'm level 85 atm and I have 8000 hardcore points, (due to recent 900 koban epic pachinko purchase, I got 4 SUPER SEXY items).
I'm fighting GRUNT at the moment and he still has all his girls to give me, I havent recieved any girls from him when I did the Invaded castle, and now he has 4 girls to "give out" since it's 3 normal girls + 1 event girl and out of nearly 800 battles I didnt get a single one. How's that even possible?

Is it because I have 8000 attack and he only has 3400 ego? Even when I put all girls level 1 with lowest hardcore stats and I remove all my equipement and replace it with critical increase equips (I have it already maxed at 25% due only to my high hardcore so critical doesnt do anything for me) I still have 4500 attack... I LITTERALLY COULD NOT do less damage in battle if I wanted to, so I 1 shot Grunt no matter what....

On the OLDER SYSTEM, you'd get 3x more money and xp if you would use a weaker team, but not longer after I learned that they switched to a new system, Now I'm really wondering if maxing out my stat hardcore stat at level 85 was a mistake, you can get 50 extra stat per level, plus your equipement bonus, so at 85 thats 4250 hardcore + whatever base hardcore you started with, not sure if it was 5 or 10 anyway. at 4250 each extra point costs you 12,000$ so it's VERY expensive to buy that 50 times on each level up... but so far back in the days the market had nothing to sell and there was no way to spend your money exept normal pachinko x10 I had saved up 18 million... now I'm down to 500K, I was loosing tons of money everyday and was wondering why, then I looked and realized market items had HUGELY increased in prices.... I had it set to auto-buy everything in the market everyday so I was able to cut my losses to 12 million and then used the rest to increase hardcore stats to MAXED. Only good thing is with that I managed to get my 34 girls to 3 stars.

Still the problem remains, Why, with a fight every 20 minutes, Am I not getting the special event girls? Some guys in this thread's been speaking about how easy the "first event girl" is and that is she is almost "Auto-Given" well, after 800 fights with grunt I still dont have her.... unless he means the one from Dark Lord.... But I wanted to try to get at least SOME money off of NPC fights and Lord gives 2k whereas Grunt gives 6k per battle...

I'll try to switch the script to fight Dark lord for 24h and we'll see then, there's only 3 days left to the event and I still havent gotten a single event girl. But I'm probably the furthest one ahead in the "Rivalry" chapter tho

And just a little FYI, I havent bough a single koban for this game, only got the free ones and the 25 koban a day for completing all missions.

KrAcKeD, you can always try what I did. I didn't get drops for the first several days of the Halloween event. So I said, Frack this, and for fun (because nothing matters anyway right?) I switched out to the most girls I had that looked like demons (for Halloween theme). I switched out to Stephanie for Alpha, Abreal for Beta, and then Beach Samane for Omega, because only 2 looked looked "demonic". After my stamina recharged again, I got both event girls in 9 tries. It was probably all luck, but I was surprised to say the least. Before that, all events I have played so far have at least taken 10~13 days for the 2nd event troll girl to drop. The first girl usually drops in the first 3 to 5 days. Didn't seem to make a sh1t of a difference for normal girls, tho.

KrAcKeD's luck sounds like the guy in a casino playing the same slot machine all day without a single win. Then that one guy comes up when you leave to get a drink, and wins the jackpot with one play on the exact same machine you've been playing at all day. Then you're like, FML!

I have all 3 stats at 7k, stopped upgrading them at around 88th level cause why bother (and cause its to expensive to do alongside upgrading affection of new girls so the upgrades that I can get now cost 13k3 each). Level ups alone give a bit of a stats even without upgrades anyway. My gear is basically only rainbow items that give all stats, half of them 50something what they gave us with 2.0 patch, and few drops from buying girls with free kobans in pachinko. I got both event girls in first 5 days. But then before 2.0 hit and a new drop system with it, I managed to hit 1600 battles straight with Gruntt and not getting his last girl (I mean he didn't drop his last girl in 1600 battles straight doing 40+ battles a day, aka 1600 battles without a single drop).

What I am trying to say here is that no drops in 800 battles is nothing spectacular, and that new system probably tracks only number of days you didn't get a drop not number of fights. To high stats aren't probably a thing, cause my stats are nearly as high as yours and I one-shot event trolls easily, and I still got both girls actually a bit faster than average for all previous events since I started playing.

So you are probably just unlucky and thats it. Would say to change troll, as people say that if you get no drops on a single troll and change troll the new troll will drop girls fast cause of new drop system, but then some say it doesn't work for event girls so no reason to bother?

Also not sure if telling us and game devs (as PR side of them reads this forums) that you are cheating using scripts is a good thing to do, but then they probably have no systems against it and/or care enough to penalize you, or there is nothing in ToS about scripts (didn't bother to read it if it even exist).

That's what I though too, and then again in the worse case I'll probably just be asked to not talk about it I guess? Because I was doing this in PeroPero Seduction and people all seemed to be pretty ok with it even in the chatrooms. If devs tell me to stop I will but I don't think they would ban me for it, I worked really hard for this. I think the time I spent on it is more than the time I'd have spent in the game playing...

It was pretty basic in the begginings and would often get stuck and do nothing until I'd realize and reset it but now I improved it and it's much much better. And FYI, even if I wanted to share this script, it wouldn't work for you because it's screen based, you would need to have exactly the same screen configuration as mine for it to work....Resolution, Color calibration, Hue and brightness settings and even if we'd get past that some functions contain a partial "IMAGE" in the code that isn't "transferrable" by text.

That being said if you were to do it yourself, granted you know what image you need for it to work, it COULD work. All in all it would be much easier to just show you how to do it and give you some examples. If any of you want to actually try this, PM me on the forum and I'll see what I can do.

For now I guess I'll continue trying my blind luck... but again today, about 60 fights with DARK LORD and nothing, so it doesnt seem to be just the fact that I started with Grunt that's a problem...

I re-read the thread a second time and someone says he's fighting Edwarda for event drops like a week ago... wtf event was he talking about, maybe a typo of the actual NPC he was fighting, I though haloween event only had event girls on Dark Lord and Grunt...

Originally Posted by XiliX

I have been beating on Edwarda for a week & haven't gotten a single girl drop yet. Getting very frustrating

Found it, that guy... and noone mentionned anything so I was like ... wtf ??? Am I the only one that thinks this guy's wasting his efforts? GOD tell me if it's actually Edwarda that drops the event girls cuz I though it was DL and Grunt.

And to the guy who said with 8K stats on everything he is "nearly" as good as me, No you aren't... you're much stronger than I am with thoses stats... I have 7800 on Hardcore only, the rest are at like 5k for Charm and 3.5k for Know-How because you REALLY don't need them as a shagger. All they do is Increase your resistance to attacks from a Know-How and Charm specialist, that's all...

I think that the Battle system really sucks... I'm stronger than 99.9% of the ranked players on Harem Heroes and because I almost always spend my battle points on NPC fights, I'm ranked 55,000th... I can go on page 1 of the rankings and I crush the guy that's #1... the only dude that beats me on page 1 is this "Armarthai" guy, he's level 120 atm but he increases by alot every single day, and he has 75K EGO with 11.5K Hardcore stats. I personally think HE IS the #1. And again I may be wrong because it's fairly possible someone that's ranked 26,000th is even stronger than he is but doesnt play for MOJO... Obviously if you beat the guy that's ranked #1 it should give you more than just 32 mojo... god they have 600,000 mojo and we have 10,000, if we beat them, it should give us 1/25th of what they have at least. I'd like to get 4,000 mojo per 1 battle points.

The system should be something like, IF ((Their mojo - My Mojo) / 25) HIGHER THAN 32, THEN Give ((Their Mojo - My Mojo) / 25) to Winning player and remove ((Their Mojo - My Mojo) / 250) From loosing player. OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT... so players who are very strong but at the bottom of the ladder can climb faster and thoses who used to be top but havent played since the new update and still are ranked on top 5 pages with only level 40 and 5k EGO can shoot WAY DOWN where they belong.

At least find a way to fix this.... competitivity is screwed withough this. Most ppl play the game for slots and the story, but COMON, we need a better PVP system, this sucks atm.