Thread: Re-balance Feedbacks

Some people have commented about $ per hour being lower. Are we sure about that? The value collected from a girl each time seems to be reduced for most (if not all) of the girls, yes. But the time until another collection is possible has also been reduced for almost everyone, it seems. So wouldn't that even out?

Actually, looking at the wiki to get at least a few old numbers to compare to (ignoring Bunny and Juliette since I upgraded them past 3 stars already)...
Red Battler went from $1300 per hour to $2300 per hour. (about 1.77 times as much as before)
Ankyo went from $1170 per hour to $2300.54 per hour. (about 1.77 times as much as before)
Agate went from $1560 per hour to $2000.31 per hour. (about 1.28 times as much as before)
Jennie went from $1560 per hour to $1270.15 per hour. (about 0.81 times as much as before)
Noemy went from $1690 per hour to $1270.48 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)
Abrael went from $1690 per hour to $1270.82 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)
Samane went from $1820 per hour to $1270.1 per hour. (about 0.70 times as much as before)
Fairy went from $1690 per hour to $1270.52 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)

3 that improved and 5 that got worse. Hmm... Total of the hourly rates for those before = $12480 per hour. Total of the hourly rates for those after = $12952.92 per hour. So for those it's about 1.04 times as much as before. That's just a sampling of 8 of the girls, but it seems like they tried to balance out the changes so that a large harem's production per hour wouldn't be too far off compared to what it was before despite changing the timers to allow collections to be made more frequently. (Someone would have to look at these numbers for ALL of the girls to really measure how well they did that, but that's a lot to go through.)

Originally Posted by Sekhara

Not sure if it's just me, but my ego dropped from 9500~ to 4000~ overnight and I can't actually see why. It's the only combat value that I noticed had changed.

I think that's because the equipment main stats don't add to ego anymore, and they were responsible for a large chunk of it.

Just wish this lag would be fixed already, it's getting quite annoying. :P

Thou in my humble opinion, even if the cash/h of my harem stays the same, but I now need to spent far more time on collecting the cash cause they give less far more often, then for me its actually a downgrade from a F2P perspective, but also from a perspective of someone who doesn't have time to baby-sit his HH account 16h a day to collect cash.

One could say its a move to force people to auto collect via kobans button.

Originally Posted by MuljoStpho

Some people have commented about $ per hour being lower. Are we sure about that? The value collected from a girl each time seems to be reduced for most (if not all) of the girls, yes. But the time until another collection is possible has also been reduced for almost everyone, it seems. So wouldn't that even out?

Actually, looking at the wiki to get at least a few old numbers to compare to (ignoring Bunny and Juliette since I upgraded them past 3 stars already)...
Red Battler went from $1300 per hour to $2300 per hour. (about 1.77 times as much as before)
Ankyo went from $1170 per hour to $2300.54 per hour. (about 1.77 times as much as before)
Agate went from $1560 per hour to $2000.31 per hour. (about 1.28 times as much as before)
Jennie went from $1560 per hour to $1270.15 per hour. (about 0.81 times as much as before)
Noemy went from $1690 per hour to $1270.48 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)
Abrael went from $1690 per hour to $1270.82 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)
Samane went from $1820 per hour to $1270.1 per hour. (about 0.70 times as much as before)
Fairy went from $1690 per hour to $1270.52 per hour. (about 0.75 times as much as before)

3 that improved and 5 that got worse. Hmm... Total of the hourly rates for those before = $12480 per hour. Total of the hourly rates for those after = $12952.92 per hour. So for those it's about 1.04 times as much as before. That's just a sampling of 8 of the girls, but it seems like they tried to balance out the changes so that a large harem's production per hour wouldn't be too far off compared to what it was before despite changing the timers to allow collections to be made more frequently. (Someone would have to look at these numbers for ALL of the girls to really measure how well they did that, but that's a lot to go through.)

Almost all girls are now at ~1270 per hour at rank 3, except for the ones from the tutorial bit (Bunny, Red Battler, Princess Agate, Ankyo and Juliette are the only exceptions as far as I can tell).

Originally Posted by MuljoStpho

Some people have commented about $ per hour being lower. Are we sure about that? The value collected from a girl each time seems to be reduced for most (if not all) of the girls, yes. But the time until another collection is possible has also been reduced for almost everyone, it seems. So wouldn't that even out?

3 that improved and 5 that got worse. Hmm... Total of the hourly rates for those before = $12480 per hour. Total of the hourly rates for those after = $12952.92 per hour. So for those it's about 1.04 times as much as before. That's just a sampling of 8 of the girls, but it seems like they tried to balance out the changes so that a large harem's production per hour wouldn't be too far off compared to what it was before despite changing the timers to allow collections to be made more frequently. (Someone would have to look at these numbers for ALL of the girls to really measure how well they did that, but that's a lot to go through.)

I can't say for sure, as I've only got access to eleven girls at this point, but I suspect it will not even out for people at higher levels and with more girls. I can only go by my own selection, but the ones you've posted seem to be about the same as what I've seen -- the early girls (up to Agate but not including girls dropped by Dark Lord) were buffed, probably to keep the game from being unplayable starting out (given the new prices), but all of the later girls (both story and dropped) appear to have been slashed.

If someone with more girls could comment on whether the trend holds we could say with some more certainty.

Spent 1.4m and finally got a legendary, and the stats are worth it for sure:



Also, 10x pachinko is probably the only resonable way to get affection items now.

Cost of affection items too high.
I won Solveig just before the patch, upgarding her to 3 affection stars costs me (items only) around 1 million. 100 affection pants costs 41k. Rly ?

No boosters in Great Pachinko (greater losses of money)

Old items have not been scaled up to the current character level

More battle points 15 is a constant amount or is it growing with the level of the character ?

Cost of upgarding stats So you tell me that I lost many millions and my time. ;/

No Xp 4 boss battle (so 1lvl girls are useless atm) , but much more cash

Bunny and Juliette are unbalanced atm.

HP items still sucks compared to hardcore items :/

Originally Posted by RNGesus

More battle points 15 is a constant amount or is it growing with the level of the character ?

I've got 15 points (up from 8 last night) at level 25.

Originally Posted by Sekhara

I've got 15 points (up from 8 last night) at level 25.

Everyone has 15 regardless of level now.

Originally Posted by soviras

Everyone has 15 regardless of level now.

Ah. That answers that, then. Thanks.