Thread: Re-balance Feedbacks

So I assume that this info that's now on the wiki is accurate for the current game?

Required Affection to reach 1 Star = [Haremette Number] x 15
Required Affection to reach 2 Stars = [Haremette Number] x 65
Required Affection to reach 3 Stars = [Haremette Number] x 215
Required Affection to reach 4 Stars = [Haremette Number] x 915
Required Affection to reach 5 Stars = [Haremette Number] x 2,665

And it looks like these are grand totals to get there from nothing. These are not the values to get there from the previous star. Anyway, I just wanted to look that over and get a better perspective of the scaling, specifically using 1 rare lingerie (worth 100 affection) as the measuring stick and assuming no other affection items are used. A rundown after throwing some numbers around in a spreadsheet.....

Girl 6: * = 1 item, ** = 4 items, *** = 13 items, **** = 55 items, ***** = 160 items
Girl 13: * = 2 items, ** = 9 items, *** = 28 items, **** = 119 items, ***** = 347 items
Girl 20: * = 3 items, ** = 13 items, *** = 43 items, **** = 183 items, ***** = 555 items
Girl 26: * = 4 items, ** = 17 items, *** = 56 items, **** = 238 items, ***** = 693 items
Girl 33: * = 5 items, ** = 22 items, *** = 71 items, **** = 302 items, ***** = 880 items
Girl 40: * = 6 items, ** = 26 items, *** = 86 items, **** = 366 items, ***** = 1066 items
Girl 46: * = 7 items, ** = 30 items, *** = 99 items, **** = 421 items, ***** = 1226 items
Girl 52: * = 8 items, ** = 34 items, *** = 112 items, **** = 476 items, ***** = 1386 items
Girl 60: * = 9 items, ** = 39 items, *** = 129 items, **** = 549 items, ***** = 1599 items

Those measurements might not be so bad if the reference was a smaller affection item, like the common chocolates (25 affection) for example. 1600 common chocolates would be equal to 400 rare lingerie, which is still a lot of items but it's not as far out there. But for those numbers if they're rare lingerie things got pretty excessive starting somewhere in the 3 star range there (like by girl 25 or so).

Anyway, a brief summary of everything I came up with by throwing a spreadsheet together:
* Each next group of 6-7 girls sees it require 1 more item than the previous group to reach 1 star.
* Each next 1-2 girls see it require 1 more item than the previous 1-2 girls to reach 2 stars.
* Each next girl requires about 2-3 more items than the previous girl to reach 3 stars.
* It will be about 9-10 more items than the previous girl for 4 stars.
* And it will be about about 26-27 more items than the previous girl for 5 stars.

Thinking about the way things grouped up there... I'd actually kind of think that they should have picked multipliers that would produce a pattern more along the lines of:
* Each next group of 6-7 girls sees it require 1 more item than the previous group to reach 1 star.
* Each next group of 4-5 girls sees it require 1 more item than the previous group to reach 2 stars.
* Each next group of 2-3 girls sees it require 1 more item than the previous group to reach 3 stars.
* Each next girl sees it require 2-3 more items than the previous girl to reach 4 stars.
* Each next girl sees it require 4-5 more items than the previous girl to reach 5 stars.

Side note looking at their multipliers (15, 65, 215, 915, and 2665):
* 2nd value is x4.33 larger than 1st value
* 3rd value is x3.31 larger than 2nd value
* 4th value is x4.26 larger than 3rd value
* 5th value is x2.91 larger than 4th value

Why are the steps so uneven? It kind of seems like they should have picked values that would either climb at a flat rate (each one x3.5 larger than the previous one, for example) or that would climb at an increasing rate (x2.5, x3, x3.5, and x4, for example).

Of course any tweaks to these values will have a huge impact on how the entire affection system feels at different levels. I don't know where the best balance would be found.

Edit: Actually, about the values being a multiple of the girl's placement in the list, that right there is not a great implementation because it would be really nice if we could someday get some options to sort our list however we want and that's not likely to happen while order influences affection leveling costs. (They wouldn't want us bumping someone to early in the list to get a discount.)