Thread: Update 2.0

Originally Posted by Blubo

the punishment for the more girls you have the more affection and money needed to upgrade stars is very absurd to me, the way it is now it seems like it bad for you to level affection girls except for the starter girls and event epic panchinko girls.

You got more girls =you have more income.
So it OK for me.

Originally Posted by Doctorwhoa

I would have held on to the gifts I sold had I known the system was going to change that drastically.

Yup. Same here.
Sold a huge lot of gifts from pachinco before this change.
And a huge amount of boosters too.

Originally Posted by Dragonlich

You got more girls =you have more income.
So it OK for me.

My take is less than what it was before the change. I'm able to collect money faster, but I work so can only collect money on my break anyway. The money isn't scaled for battles nor do my girls collect more money at higher levels. The entire point of the game was to win more girls for your harem. Now you're penalized for it. I'm still working to get max affection for a girl that I got on the first day after the update. While I agree it was probably too easy before, its way too hard now. Somewhere in the middle has to lie the answer.

Originally Posted by Doctorwhoa

My take is less than what it was before the change. I'm able to collect money faster, but I work so can only collect money on my break anyway. The money isn't scaled for battles nor do my girls collect more money at higher levels. The entire point of the game was to win more girls for your harem. Now you're penalized for it. I'm still working to get max affection for a girl that I got on the first day after the update. While I agree it was probably too easy before, its way too hard now. Somewhere in the middle has to lie the answer.

Affection is scaled with harem size. So the more girl = more money per hour and it's balanced with higher cost of affection.
Bad thing is that pachinko cost is scaled with your level. So actually you well be punished for leveling, because income do not depending on it.

Originally Posted by Dragonlich

Affection is scaled with harem size. So the more girl = more money per hour and it's balanced with higher cost of affection.
Bad thing is that pachinko cost is scaled with your level. So actually you well be punished for leveling, because income do not depending on it.

Getting more girls is far more punishing than leveling. If I stayed the same level and got 1 more girl, it would cost me more money to get all the gifts at level 60 than what extra it would cost to to get the gifts from pachinko at level 400... It only costs 25% more when comparing the cost for obtaining items from pachinko between level 60 and level 400 if you sell all equipment you gain from it. Spending 1 million on level 60 is about the same as spending 1,25 million on level 400.

The pachinko cost scaling is negligible on the long run because the reward price goes up too and it takes a large part of the burden, but the girl upgrade prices are simply not worth it because it would take years to earn it back from what it gives you if you upgrade 1 girl. 1 girl from 0 stars to 3 stars goes from 800 per hour to 1270 per hour, on late game you pay a lot more to go from 0-3 stars if we include the item costs.

If we take 10 million as the cost, which is around what some endgame players need to pay per girl (for 0-3 stars, only if you buy everything from the shop, which is the cheapest method), then it takes 10000000 / 470 (difference in money earned per hour between 0 and 3 star) = 21276,6 hours (or 886,5 days, or almost 2 and a half years) to earn it back with the extra income you get. This is not balanced, you pay an absurd amount for almost no difference and it only gets worse the more girls you get. A year from now, when there are probably double the amount of girls in the game, a girl that was upgraded to 3 stars today will still not have paid it's investment back while a new girl will have twice the cost for the same upgrade.

...thankfully they've announced they are aware of issues, so I'm gonna chill for a while wait for 2.1 - most big releases like this break as much as they fix, then they review rethink and fix the flaws....and start planning another big release to tweak it again

I had a ton of the rare lingerie stockpiled from before the update. (Something like 260 or so, I think.) Ranked up Bunny and Juliette through their new 4th and 5th stars of course, and then I got Solveig and Stephanie to drop shortly after the update and got them each to 3 stars. At that point tough I had to stop and rethink fully new girls up right away like that because those upgrades had wiped a large portion of the stockpile. (Down to about 90 rare lingerie.) Today I just got Rumiko, Justine, and Teacher Deitra. So far I've only pushed them each to 1 star and they ate through all the new affection items I'd started stockpiling after upgrading Solveig and Stephanie, plus a little bit more taken out of the old stockpile (down to about 75 rare lingerie now). Looking it over, they could wipe out the remainder of that old stockpile if I push them all to 2 star. But I think 1 star will just have to be the limit so I can stretch out the rest of that old stockpile to get the next few new girls at least that far as well. Or just let all new girls after this sit at 0 stars and hope/wait for a new update that rebalances affection again.

Originally Posted by MuljoStpho

I had a ton of the rare lingerie stockpiled from before the update. (Something like 260 or so, I think.) Ranked up Bunny and Juliette through their new 4th and 5th stars of course, and then I got Solveig and Stephanie to drop shortly after the update and got them each to 3 stars. At that point tough I had to stop and rethink fully new girls up right away like that because those upgrades had wiped a large portion of the stockpile. (Down to about 90 rare lingerie.) Today I just got Rumiko, Justine, and Teacher Deitra. So far I've only pushed them each to 1 star and they ate through all the new affection items I'd started stockpiling after upgrading Solveig and Stephanie, plus a little bit more taken out of the old stockpile (down to about 75 rare lingerie now). Looking it over, they could wipe out the remainder of that old stockpile if I push them all to 2 star. But I think 1 star will just have to be the limit so I can stretch out the rest of that old stockpile to get the next few new girls at least that far as well. Or just let all new girls after this sit at 0 stars and hope/wait for a new update that rebalances affection again.

I feel you. I was selling those items under the last system. I had 13 each of the rare and 5 of the common. That was gone before I finished raising Bunny and Juliette to level five. I've since gained Miss Spook and Cunegonde and its a stretch trying to budget to raise their affection. I just finished Miss Spook today. That's not even getting into upgrade costs. I'm not going to do the math, but I know at 1567 every 74 minutes, it will take a long time to even break even on that deal.