Thread: Girls Drop rate are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low.

Originally Posted by Imnothere

Feeling like an idiot for spending money on this game, and I know I'm not alone, so that shows something needs to change. I'm also a relatively new player but I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep playing because it seems like at least for event girls you need to pour a bunch of money into the game to have even a decent chance of getting them.

I was fighting Dark Lord whenever I had energy trying to get Taria when that event was happening (it never fully recharged so I was using it as much as possible), then on the final day I ended up using my saved up Kobans to get her and finally after about 400 kobans I got her. Now today I finally decided to buy some Kobans. 900 later on Event Pachinko and I got none of them. Even though it cost me less than $5 considering I got nothing out of it, that's a waste to me, and who knows how much more I would have to spend before I did.

I get the need to make money from the game, and I have no problem with that, but in order to encourage people to spend money they need to at least make it worthwhile. If they increased the drop rate just a bit I think they would actually make more from the game because people would realize they are getting value from the money spent.

Just stop spending, you already gave too much money to this "game". It is a pay to win, so it does not deserve any money in first place.

If there were only avatars to be purchased, with no casual drop of them and no impact on the game whatsoever, it would be perfect. But, being as is is now, it is just a rip off; first and foremost the pachinko, which gives girls only by spending money, meaninig cheating, since there is no other way to obtain them otherwise.

They have to remove it and put a fix drop rate on the girls, such as: 100 victories against the same troll for each event girls, 200 victories against the same troll for story girls and 300 victories in total for the other girls, which are always available, like in the anniversay time.

This way you kill the two biggest flaws of the game: pay to win and boring and useless grinding.

Of course, being a pay to win, there will never be these improvement, since you can not expect quality in a pay to win. The only reasonable thing we cna do is not giving any money to Kinkoid and spread the word to avoid any other gamer (real, not cheater) to fall in this trap.

I don't get it.

I started playing back in September. Back then, I used to get all three story girls within ~40 fights, and I continued to do so for Dark Lord, Ninja Spy and Gruntt. As soon as I got to Edwarda, I hit a road block. She has been level 100 (max) for over a month now and I continue to pour 40 fights a day into her and I still have not gotten a single girl. Same goes for Donatien and Silvanus when I tried switching to them. That's roughly 1200+ fights without a single drop.

I remember when the change happened: There was an event where they brought back some older girls that hadn't seen the light of day for a while, and some new ones (Adelaide, Vashalanor, Liu-Yeng, Greta, all 3-star epics) and I got all four of them in couple of days. Then, after that, the drop rate changed, or something.

Does anyone have a link to patch notes around the time that this event happened? The event was called Epic Days and started in late November.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just stop spending, you already gave too much money to this "game". It is a pay to win, so it does not deserve any money in first place.

If there were only avatars to be purchased, with no casual drop of them and no impact on the game whatsoever, it would be perfect. But, being as is is now, it is just a rip off; first and foremost the pachinko, which gives girls only by spending money, meaninig cheating, since there is no other way to obtain them otherwise.

They have to remove it and put a fix drop rate on the girls, such as: 100 victories against the same troll for each event girls, 200 victories against the same troll for story girls and 300 victories in total for the other girls, which are always available, like in the anniversay time.

This way you kill the two biggest flaws of the game: pay to win and boring and useless grinding.

Of course, being a pay to win, there will never be these improvement, since you can not expect quality in a pay to win. The only reasonable thing we cna do is not giving any money to Kinkoid and spread the word to avoid any other gamer (real, not cheater) to fall in this trap.

game is done to make money, think before typing

Originally Posted by Unregistered

game is done to make money, think before typing

As written in the post: "If there were only avatars to be purchased, with no casual drop of them and no impact on the game whatsoever, it would be perfect."

Read, before trolling.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As written in the post: "If there were only avatars to be purchased, with no casual drop of them and no impact on the game whatsoever, it would be perfect."

Read, before trolling.

aka no incentive to pay, aka no point from a developer's business perspective

Originally Posted by Unregistered

aka no incentive to pay, aka no point from a developer's business perspective

When a "game" relies on cheating to make money, you have another reason to not giving any money to it.

Because you are not rewarding the work of a developer, but you are feeding a cancer called pay to win that is ruining the whole Videogame world.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When a "game" relies on cheating to make money, you have another reason to not giving any money to it.

Because you are not rewarding the work of a developer, but you are feeding a cancer called pay to win that is ruining the whole Videogame world.

that is not cheating, merely offering incentives for the user to spend money, which = profit, which is the sole reason for this to exist.

and making games to make profit has been around since the start of selling games.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

that is not cheating, merely offering incentives for the user to spend money, which = profit, which is the sole reason for this to exist.

and making games to make profit has been around since the start of selling games.

Nope. That's totally cheating. Here is why:

-Player A: starts today, plays 3 hours per day without spending money, gets a reward from the leaderboards equal to X;
-Player B: starts today, plays 8 hours per day without spending money, gets a reward from the leaderboards equal to Y (where Y>X);
-Player C: starts today, plays 1 hour every 2 days, spends a lot of money, gest a rewards from the leaderbords equal to Z (where Z>Y).

It's as if player C uses a cheat engine table to multiply the resources in game aka cheating.

In game purchases are ok only if they aren't lootboxes and/or with an impact on the game. Refiling the challenge tokens on the league with kobans is cheating, since you can purchase kobans; same goes for epic/event pachinko, where there is also the random part.

It can not be simpler than this.

I was battling grunt to get some money, and suddenly, at the first try, he drops an epic girl (vissihar [a bit creepy]) AT THE FIRST TRY!!!!
My first epic girl (she is still being creepy) but wow

I don't know about cheating when a drop is determined by a random number. But I do know ever since they "claimed" to improve drop rates months ago, I seem to have worse luck. the current mini-epic event I played as much as i could and got no drops.