Thread: Please cap the Affection upgrade costs!

It doesn't even make sense to upgrade them past 4 stars. You will never recoup the money and they aren't going to be used for battles.

When I got 4 star upgrades without need for any affection on Ankyo and Battler, and then on Battler also didn't need affection points and could insta upgrade her to 5 stars (or rather I can upgrade her, I just don't have spare 5 milions of cash seeing how I am slowly upgrading to 3 starts other new girls). I gone to discord and asked if they changed something, like did they remove affection cost need for 4/5 stars or something.

What I got in response is that they changed something with latest patches that makes girls remember how much affection points pre-2.0 you gave girls, which is around 15k, so each girl that was on 3 stars and need less than 15k total now to get to 5th star will have her 4/5 stars insta unlocked, if girl needs more than 15k she will require those 15k less.

Seeing as affection point cost 417, this 15k thingy makes upgrading girls to 5 stars around 6.25m cash cheaper, thou total cost go up into tens or hundreds of millions quite fast, at which point this "bonus" doesn't help much.

As a side note. Technically if they will release 4/5 stars slow enough, most players should be able to collect affection and cash to upgrade them 4/5 stars girls to those 4/5 as a side thing to upgrading newly acquired girls to 3 stars. Of course this doesn't work for new players or people who whaled and got a lot of girls fast.

Our only hope is that we will level fast enough and that with leveling up cash we gain from selling freely acquired items will become significantly huge portion of our income to offset 4/5 ridiculous costs. Or that supposedly to be released before end of the year PvP update will have high enough number of changes with maybe how much affection item drops/cash drops we get.

But then you need to ask what type of game has it become when players hope that they dont add new girls or new scenes too fast ... I could get used to that affection and all but if more girls will get 5 stars (which is great and I am happy about it) we will not be able to afford that (funny is that if you invest lot of time in the game and try to collect everything then you have it much worst by getting more girls and almost no extra income)

Originally Posted by Eversor86

As a side note. Technically if they will release 4/5 stars slow enough, most players should be able to collect affection and cash to upgrade them 4/5 stars girls to those 4/5 as a side thing to upgrading newly acquired girls to 3 stars. Of course this doesn't work for new players or people who whaled and got a lot of girls fast.

Our only hope is that we will level fast enough and that with leveling up cash we gain from selling freely acquired items will become significantly huge portion of our income to offset 4/5 ridiculous costs. Or that supposedly to be released before end of the year PvP update will have high enough number of changes with maybe how much affection item drops/cash drops we get.

The only issue I see is that we don't get a lot of freely acquired items. Yes, you get some from missions, but not really enough to even begin to offset the costs of even 2/3 stars as your Harem grows, let alone a 4 or 5 star increase. Pachinko is not even an option now, since they started the scaling Pachinko prices and decreased the sell prices of items. It's showing even more that the ones who have been playing the longest/spending real money on the game are being penalized. I just got Stephanie (girl number 48) from a 10x Epic Pachinko roll and upgraded her to 3 stars which cost 10,320 affection (4,303,440 cash) + 864,000 cash to upgrade. Her income after all that is 1270/hr, so it will only take me (roughly) 4068 hours to recoup the cash I put into her. They really need to scale the amount of money that each girl pays out if they insist on keeping the scaling the cost to upgrade each girl

They probably overshot with the changes, but it's not a feels bad way to empty out everyone's cash and items, as opposed to straight up deleting them and starting over.

What else are you gonna spend cash on if not the girls and stats. The number of girls I need to get from 2* to 3* has been whittled down to 5, once they are done and the new girls are both 5*, cash is gonna build up again. The game doesn't really have a true gold sink except for the pachinko, where you can put cash in for maybe an upgrade.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

As a side note. Technically if they will release 4/5 stars slow enough, most players should be able to collect affection and cash to upgrade them 4/5 stars girls to those 4/5 as a side thing to upgrading newly acquired girls to 3 stars. Of course this doesn't work for new players or people who whaled and got a lot of girls fast.

If you only care about girl upgrades, sure. But don't forget upgrading your stats in the shop. It currently costs about 1 mil per level for me just to upgrade my main stat. I can probably even do 3 stats at the same time if I only did those, but girl upgrades are getting in the way.

Originally Posted by vem

If you only care about girl upgrades, sure. But don't forget upgrading your stats in the shop. It currently costs about 1 mil per level for me just to upgrade my main stat. I can probably even do 3 stats at the same time if I only did those, but girl upgrades are getting in the way.

The only issue with stats is that, at least till a PvP/battle mechanics revamp - stats are useless. There is no point in upgrading them if you have a decent gear or upgraded till like 10k+ per upgrade costs. I stopped upgrading when next upgrade cost passed 12k mark, and I still have over twice the ego/stats of bots I see all the time in PvP.

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Would be nice if the affection items that could drop in the dailies were epic/legendary only like the store. Have the same common/rare lockout once you reach a certain point.

Would be nice indeed, but that will never happen.

For me most PvP affection drops are common, but I never actually get the 3 points one, only 7 to 25 ones. Sometimes thou rarely I get the uncommon green ones. Never got epic/legendary so or their drop chance is abysmally small or they don't drop at all.

Still with just common ones dropping cash value is averaging around 6.5k which is around double of average actual cash drops, so since they added affection items into PvP drops the average cash per fight gone up. But it also makes upgrading affection slightly faster.

If they added market rules to PvP drops, and anyone with 41+ girls would only get epic/legendary affection items, then PvP average per fight cash value would sky-rocketed. If wiki is right then average affection per epic/legendary is close to 700 affection points, that is over 290k cash value.

Not to mention that you could actually sell those back for 1/6 their price. Affection drops are 25% chance, meaning that you could average those numbers down and get around 75k cash per fight value if you use affection items, and around 15k if you sold them for cash. This would make PvP far more valuable in cash than fighting trolls, to the point people would actually do PvP till they max affection/stat upgrades/etc, and then go back to trolls to get girls, especially that the no-drop-prevention system seems to not care if you spend energy on trolls.

So in short they will never make this happen, cause it would fuck up affection, cash systems to much.

Personally how systems works now are fine for upgrading to 3 stars. But upgrading to 4/5 will be a pain. Its manageable now, but after next few 4/5 girls added it would start costing so much, you would be never able to finish them. At least as long as cash gains wont go up high enough for higher level players or if they wont cap costs on 4/5 stars or affection in general, or re-value 4/5 affection upgrades overall.