Thread: Please cap the Affection upgrade costs!

Originally Posted by hornyg4mer

Hope i didn't miss anything. Not gonna mention the pay 300 koban for instant collecting, because thats new

You got that one wrong, you GET 300 kobans AND free instant collecting. You don't pay kobans for it, you buy the kobans and the collecting is a bonus perk. :P

hornyg4mer if you are here to learn as you said just yourself, then maybe I don't know ask questions, get answers and learn from them?

What you do instead isn't learning.

Few examples of what I see:

- In another thread you talk about items that boost ego as some magical luck boosting items.
- You say cheaper affection items have better affection points to cost ratio which is wrong, but you pointed out you gave no fucks to even check it.
- You ask to check on wiki which girls gains the most at 3* and focus on them, when every girl apart from starting 5 girls has the same cash/h on all affection stages (800, 900, 1050 and 1270 cash/h) and thus anyone simply needs to upgrade affection on earlier thus cheaper girls first (they have smaller cost multiplier).
- You say someones calculations are off, shrug them off as being useless cause being guesses, but give no proof yourself. And when I gave the prove that the guy was actually right, which he used to point out that you yourself was actually wrong, then you shrug him off again by saying he can believe what he can, cause you aren't here to prove him wrong. And then proceed to talk about your own feelings how the game works for you which proves/helps with nothing.
- You list seemingly out of the blue what kobans can buy us, half of which don't help at all with the problem being discussed in this thread, finalizing it with a mistake (someone else already pointed out that one).

I mean, if you really are here to learn as you think others are here to do too, then ask questions if you wanna learn something, don't spread miss-information cause that helps nobody, don't tell other people they are wrong if you can't prove that or you just feel they are wrong, and lastly for the love of Gaben the holy father of gaming don't use bad contrasting hard to read colours in your posts ;].

So did the new update touch on this at all? No

The new update actually is super pointless and even puts more weight on the broken economy as you can buy points for contests where in reality you dont have any money at all due to the high cost for affection/upgrades. which money should I spend for contests if I have multiple girls left to upgrade and didnt touch pachino or stat upgrades in the shop since HH2.0.
I pointed out major issues with their affection system only a couple days after 2.0 and they, supposingly, were checking the data to see if issues occure. Now, good amout of time has passed, surprisingly most of the posts in this forum are about the broken affection system and costs being too high - yeah who would have guessed.
Like nobody seem to have done the math - even with more gold influx it would, it theory, not make any sense to upgrade girls after a certain breakpoint as it takes months to YEARS (yes literally years) to even get the money you invested in affection items/upgrade costs back. Hence investing in the money generating system currently is a value loss which is super retarded as it should actually have good value after a short amout of time.
It certainly was too easy to upgrade girls to max affection before 2.0, but now it is just beyond broken and I am not sure how one can even come up with such a system.

Originally Posted by soviras

You got that one wrong, you GET 300 kobans AND free instant collecting. You don't pay kobans for it, you buy the kobans and the collecting is a bonus perk. :P

Originally Posted by Eversor86

hornyg4mer if you are here to learn as you said just yourself, then maybe I don't know ask questions, get answers and learn from them?

What you do instead isn't learning.

Few examples of what I see:

- In another thread you talk about items that boost ego as some magical luck boosting items.
- You say cheaper affection items have better affection points to cost ratio which is wrong, but you pointed out you gave no fucks to even check it.
- You ask to check on wiki which girls gains the most at 3* and focus on them, when every girl apart from starting 5 girls has the same cash/h on all affection stages (800, 900, 1050 and 1270 cash/h) and thus anyone simply needs to upgrade affection on earlier thus cheaper girls first (they have smaller cost multiplier).
- You say someones calculations are off, shrug them off as being useless cause being guesses, but give no proof yourself. And when I gave the prove that the guy was actually right, which he used to point out that you yourself was actually wrong, then you shrug him off again by saying he can believe what he can, cause you aren't here to prove him wrong. And then proceed to talk about your own feelings how the game works for you which proves/helps with nothing.
- You list seemingly out of the blue what kobans can buy us, half of which don't help at all with the problem being discussed in this thread, finalizing it with a mistake (someone else already pointed out that one).

I mean, if you really are here to learn as you think others are here to do too, then ask questions if you wanna learn something, don't spread miss-information cause that helps nobody, don't tell other people they are wrong if you can't prove that or you just feel they are wrong, and lastly for the love of Gaben the holy father of gaming don't use bad contrasting hard to read colours in your posts ;].

Your words cut deep...

I have been learning, as each conversation, no matter how hostile, brings up things i didnt know before.
Like the affection items being more cost effective? That was the case before the update. Im pretty sure i said i didnt check that recently, but i was also talking about it as someone should check. Didnt know it would be held against me.

As for the "other thread", thats my bad. I have gone through this game for the past year thinking that its luck. It didnt really have an image on the stats page, and when i used it it again didnt raise any of my stats. It did, however, got me some girls. From that experience i thought it was a luck booster. Again it lasts for 3 hours, and getting 3 girls seemed like a rare occasion. It was probably coincidence. Again, my false info isnt meant to be malicious.

As for graphs and calculations, your right in that i didnt calculate anything. If that is "unhelpful" to any of you, then i apologies. Im not taking this game that serious, and only posted my own feelings, as you have said above. None of what i said was tips or tricks to go off of without double checking it.

Im not gonna dispute your math with more math, since like i said im not that serious about it. I dont need to prove any of you are wrong. Within the day, i check on the hour at least. Thats about 14 times (since i sleep). Within those times, Im maximizing my profits within what i can do. Im not gonna calculate when everyone is mostly ready to pay. Im just stopping in as often as i can within my busy life. I didnt suggest to anyone how often to check.

As for that new koban offer:

"For 300 Nutaku gold, receive 300 kobans within 30 days.
Every day, at your connection, you will receive 10 kobans.
For 30 days, you will be able to collect all the girl’s income in one click for free!"

I apologize but the description for that was vague. That is why i didn't really comment on it. Thanks for explaining that one, since i did learn something. Again though, i didn't know you would attack me on that. It made it sound like you pay 300 and for the next 30 days you get it back if you log on daily. It now seems that you pay for 300, get an additional 300 and the auto collect.

There, i used bold since you dislike colors.

So thanks for reading. I honestly wanted to argue where your wrong and learn. I can always count on you to use math to show your better than me, and to take my words as advice instead of suggestion. (this part is self deprecation, not an attack in any way) I will work to fix these shortcomings of mine.

On a side note, should I wait until after the event to do a x10 epic pachinko spin?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

On a side note, should I wait until after the event to do a x10 epic pachinko spin?

Depends, what you want from epic pachinko.

If you want first to get non-event girls of any kind then wait and spin between events when only non-event girls can drop.
If you only want non-event pachinko only girls then spin between events but only if you already have all girls drop-able by trolls.
If you want first to get event girls then spin while event is up, thou only if that particular event girls are up your alley.

Thou the event girls aren't a guaranteed drop, they just have IIRC 3 times the chance, but you can still get non-even girls if your luck is bad (like I did once).

In my opinion spin pachinko only on events to get event girls, cause non-event girls you can always get later. Also spin only if you already have all story troll drop-able girls so that your chances to get event and/or pachinko only girls will be higher.

You could also ignore all this and spin or on event or between events if there is a certain girl you really really want to push your chances with RNGesus.

But if you just want to get as much girls as possible and doesn't matter which ones, then just wait till you have all troll girls, which makes chances to spin out girl you can just farm from trolls non-existent, and then spin to yer heart content or on event or out of it.