Thread: New cap on stat purchasing in the market

Just realized today, that I can no longer purchase Hardcore stat, even though I haven't purchased any in the last 15 levels or so. Looks like they greatly reduced the amount you can buy per level, and now those of us that have x amount, are retro capped, until we break through what ever the new amount per level up is....

Wish I had known this was coming before hand, would have dumped 20m into it.

They probably reduced it, cause nearly nobody was using the upgrades. Stats are meaningless without a good battle mechanics and/or PvP, and there was a lot of them to get and they cost a lot. And how expensive upgrading affection is - most people probably use all cash on it, ignoring stat upgrades. Few people maybe spin pachinkos for sake of contests, buts thats probably all anyone would use cash for other than affection.

I hate thou that they just change those things and say nothing. I would prefer them to say something about this stuff instead of letting us re-engineer and find out. Did I waste a load of cash on upgrades that will not be given back once again (I lost a lot being maxed pre 2.0), cause maybe they reduced it so much that I will stay capped even at 400lvl, or what?

I am close to dropping this game cause all this secret changes and busy work game-play tiers me out, so I will not level up a new account just to see whats up with this change in upgrades.

As a side note: I stopped upgrading when cost was a bit over 12k per upgrade. That was like a lot of levels ago. Now I am 141 and my stats are maxed. Someone on discord said they were limited to only 19 upgrades on their level up which is a lot less than 50 we had before, but not less enough to put me in the "I upgrade more than possible cause of the change".

Well rip, I was doing pve bosses instead of pvp because I needed gold to keep up with upgrades, now they're telling me I missed out on a boatload of XP for nothing.

Originally Posted by vem

Well rip, I was doing pve bosses instead of pvp because I needed gold to keep up with upgrades, now they're telling me I missed out on a boatload of XP for nothing.

Upgrades which actually have more value than the XP even now... There is less of a point to leveling than there is to gaining stats atm. Even with just daily missions for xp and the new stat cap, getting money for the stats at 400 takes longer than getting to 400.

I would actually argue that stats are useless to the point investing in upgrades is a waste of money. At least till they change PvP/battle mechanics and make stats somehow relevant/useful. So doing PvP for a bit more exp and affection items and take care of affection of girls is a better thing to do than just farm money from trolls for upgrades (thou that only stands true if you already have all girls farmed form trolls).

The only way I see upgrading being viable is if you are scared that when they will finally fix PvP/battle mechanics and thus make stats/upgrades useful, they would sky-rocket upgrade prices, so doing them now when they are "cheap" would be OKish. But thats really the only thing I see there for upgrading.

As a side note: aren't you soviras a guy who actually often argued that stats are useless now cause of broken mechanics, to easy trolls, and also a guy who levels as fast as some whales do? You are like close to +10 levels compared to me ;]

You where also one who often said that gaining cash at max level will be far faster cause of sell price going up with free items levels. Which would actually make putting leveling faster and thus exp on higher priority than upgrades especially where trolls are so easy, and PvP battles are close to being a one shot fights even for me someone who uses rainbow items and stopped upgrading at 12k costs.

You saying now XP is less valuable than upgrades makes no sense, is like contradictory to what you where saying in other threads, and lastly it makes what you said sound kinda like you are now a PR guy for HH devs and try to sugar-coat things that annoy people in the game by making it look like it was our fault or something not game devs (guy complains about reduced amount of upgrades making him feel like he wasted time on farming cash only for upgrades sake, and you tell him that upgrades are even now more valuable than XP when they never were and probably never will, thou I won't complain if devs surprise me with that one).

Originally Posted by Eversor86

I would actually argue that stats are useless to the point investing in upgrades is a waste of money. At least till they change PvP/battle mechanics and make stats somehow relevant/useful. So doing PvP for a bit more exp and affection items and take care of affection of girls is a better thing to do than just farm money from trolls for upgrades (thou that only stands true if you already have all girls farmed form trolls).

The only way I see upgrading being viable is if you are scared that when they will finally fix PvP/battle mechanics and thus make stats/upgrades useful, they would sky-rocket upgrade prices, so doing them now when they are "cheap" would be OKish. But thats really the only thing I see there for upgrading.

As a side note: aren't you soviras a guy who actually often argued that stats are useless now cause of broken mechanics, to easy trolls, and also a guy who levels as fast as some whales do? You are like close to +10 levels compared to me ;]

You where also one who often said that gaining cash at max level will be far faster cause of sell price going up with free items levels. Which would actually make putting leveling faster and thus exp on higher priority than upgrades especially where trolls are so easy, and PvP battles are close to being a one shot fights even for me someone who uses rainbow items and stopped upgrading at 12k costs.

You saying now XP is less valuable than upgrades makes no sense, is like contradictory to what you where saying in other threads, and lastly it makes what you said sound kinda like you are now a PR guy for HH devs and try to sugar-coat things that annoy people in the game by making it look like it was our fault or something not game devs (guy complains about reduced amount of upgrades making him feel like he wasted time on farming cash only for upgrades sake, and you tell him that upgrades are even now more valuable than XP when they never were and probably never will, thou I won't complain if devs surprise me with that one).

The speed at which you gain xp from fighting in the arena is too low to make more of a difference than the money you get from the bosses. With the old cap, you could make up the difference due to the rather high amount of money that you would need, but with this amount you would lose time on it instead. The time it would take to catch up to the amount of money you missed out on from boss battles means that the cost to be higher so that you actually have time to catch up on the lost millions.