Thread: New 5-stars

Hello, dear all.

Thank you for this topic.

Officially, we can say that, yes, we are reading all you say and we are working on it.
The prices of the new 5 stars were carefully calculated, though. Do you remember that on our previous 5-star releases most of you already had the 5-star, without even doing something for it? We, first wanted to prevent this and then.. Continue designing Harem Heroes in the best way. For the 5-star scenes we recruit additional artists and do tons of work... It's a lot and we want to continue doing it, but also we want to tease you and make you work in order to get them!

I don't want to say it all out, but, I will let you know that our Game Design is now working on a feature that will totally give you more chances to earn cash in the game. It's in discussion and production.
I will give you more details with time.

Best,
Jessie

Sorry but your post Jessie is border-lining into bullshit territory.

Nobody had 5 stars without any work, we still needed to pay upgrade costs, and not everyone has shit tone of money stored to do so, and even if they did? they worked for that money before 4/5 stars release.

How can you say you carefully calculated prices for 5 stars, where the price is connected to girls position in harems and varies for all people? Do you really want us to believe its fair for people who were kinda unlucky and got Abra as her 40th harem girl, where some have her at 10?

Also telling us that making 2 affection upgrade scenes and 2 avatars (aka 4 images) is "tons of work", I am genuinely worried for the future of this game, seeing how harem girls their scenes and story relies on images a lot and even with additional artists pace is slow as a snail .

The issue with low harem position girls being to easy to upgrade was that you experimented with allowing us to keep pre2.0 update affection points on girls, which for 3 stars was around 15k which is enough for low harem girls to be ready for 4/5 stars upgrades, and helps quite a bit with high harem position girls.

The simplest solution to this mess and keep the so called carefully calculated prices, is to use a 4/5 star release order as multiplier for 4/5 stars instead of the harem position. With that the cost and affection required is fair for all people, cause it doesn't matter when they got the girls, and also you can remove that overflow from pre2.0 because if the price will go steadily up, you don't need helping with the more costly girl, and not helping with less costly girl. Heck you could actually do a bit of re-thinking and maybe actually really carefully set the prices knowing that everyone would have the same multiplier and that the cost with each 4/5 stars released would steadily go up with release ordered multiplier instead of random harem position one we have now?

Just few thoughts of mine, maybe a bit rage induced.

''We made 5 star extremely expensive to give players a sense of pride and accomplishment''

Well I love to see thet I started this thread just to ask if we just get two new 5-stars and it turned out into full lynch
But yeah I hate the cost of 5-stars too ... Abrael is my 20th girl and need 35k affection ... but I can live with that ... but I fear what other girls will cost later. BUT! I am willing to wait for that update Jassie mentioned. The problem with affection items was corrected just fine and it didnt take "that" long (but now we have problem with money so...). And that's why I will wait before joining on the fun with torch in hand.

PS: that about calculating sound little forced and I dont like argument about overflow since it will not be on all girls and more importantly it will be useless for new players

Originally Posted by Frelas

''We made 5 star extremely expensive to give players a sense of pride and accomplishment''

Daaaaaamn! Shot's fired.

Originally Posted by Frelas

''We made 5 star extremely expensive to give players a sense of pride and accomplishment''

Hello, dear Frelas.

Usually, when you put the '' '' it means you are quoting, yet in this case I don't think this is a quote, not from my post.

Can you say why you think so?

Best,
Jessie

Hello Miss Chan

I think that was a reference to EAs answer concerning the lootboxes in battlefront, so the main point he wants to say, he highly questions the sincerity of your statement. Fear not, at least your shares won’t lose 3.1 billion in the process.

I would also like to point out, your statement the prices of the 5 star girls were carefully calculated does feel a little odd. What was the idea, did you want many players to be frustrated enough with the high costs to buy more kobans? I can’t think of any other reason for these really high upgrade prices.

Maybe you carefully calculated the prices, that doesn’t make them fair.

I still need around 5 million more cash and 3800 affection to get Abrael to 5 stars. I’m a rather new player, I arrived in world8 a week ago and I only have 19 girls, all max but Abrael (of course). Considering that was the cheap part of the upgrades, I don’t know if this game is really worth my time, and I think many people will ask themselves that question.

Originally Posted by JessieChan

Hello, dear Frelas.

Usually, when you put the '' '' it means you are quoting, yet in this case I don't think this is a quote, not from my post.

Can you say why you think so?

Best,
Jessie

Hey jessie,

Like samrei already said it has to do with ea anwer.
They answered the question why they put a horrible grind in their game, they answered that they did it to give players a sense of pride and achievement(it was actually implented to get people to spend more money on lootboxes to reduce the horrible grind)
The statement was ridiculed to the point of a running joke.
The reason i said that, was less to do with questioning your sincerity and more to do with the fact that you put a horrible grind in the game, jokingly stating the reason for the grind is to give players a sense of pride and achievement.

Harem heroes is a f2p game and putting a grind into the game to get people to spend their money is frustrating but to a certain degree understandeble.
But the grind you guys have put in the game, do not give people a incentive to spend money. Hell you cant even spend money reasonable on affection items.
The pachinko doesnt count because you will get not enough affection items and you get more girls which you never get enough affection items for in the pachinko. But the worst part it that it hurts the whales the most, the people that spend the most money. Making it in my eyes a strange decision.

Originally Posted by JessieChan

Hello, dear Frelas.

Usually, when you put the '' '' it means you are quoting, yet in this case I don't think this is a quote, not from my post.

Can you say why you think so?

Best,
Jessie

Because he's probably right sarcastic and bitter maybe, but right - it's that or we made it harder in the hopes you'd spend money to refill fights

...also in all honesty as 'the face' you're really great at spin, but come off completely insincere and borderline hostile as times

Originally Posted by JessieChan

The prices of the new 5 stars were carefully calculated, though.

besides nothing you calculated was remotely close to careful. I already made some posts about how atrocious the price scaling is as it takes literally YEARS to only get the money back you spend for affection and upgrade costs for the very first 5 star girls let alone later ones - even for 3 stars it takes months to get even. How is that carefully calculated?

when HH 2.0 was introduced and the huge outcry regarding the shitty affection system happened you stated that you are carefully watching whats happening as you dont want to rush into changes that might turn out bad due to a lack of time where your data was collected. it has been months and personally the amout of missing upgrades only got worse and worse with the introduction of more and more 5 star girls.

and I am pretty sure that I am one of the most active people in the game given that my level is ~150 - if you exclude whales only a very few people are actually above me in level and had massive amout of affection items stocked up before HH 2.0 was released
for people who clear their haram cash less frequent it can only be worse