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  1. #1
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    Legendary Equipment Nerf?

    Just got some legendary equipment from playing Epic Pachinko a few times with saved up points, and found that a level 175 legendary item has 150~200 less points per stat than my current level legendary 155 item. Even one of my current level 137/136 legendary stats. Wtf is up with that? Is it yet another secret, undocumented change? Can't really tell if the epic equipment was affected, but at least the higher level item has higher stats. It does seem as if the higher level epic item should have a tad bit more stats than it currently does at level 175, though. I can't post pictures or I would, but here are stat comparisons. If someone wants picture proof, I'll make an account and post actual pics of the exact items listed below. Just never felt compelled to make an account. STOP MAKING GD, F'ING UNDOCUMENTED CHANGES AND NERFS ALREADY!!!

    Here are some item comparisons:

    Flag Item
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    Level 155: Super Sexy Robot Logo
    Hardcore-766
    Charm-788
    Know-how-755
    Endurance-767
    Crit-10.71

    Level 175: Super Sexy Dragon Paladin
    Hardcore-616
    Charm-663
    Know-how-584
    Endurance-627
    Crit-8.41


    Bottom Item
    -----------------
    Level 137: Super Sexy Pilot Pants
    Hardcore-679
    Charm-676
    Know-how-692
    Endurance-699
    Crit-9.54

    Level 175: Super Sexy Kesa Bottom
    Hardcore-638
    Charm-621
    Know-how-615
    Endurance-609
    Crit-8.41

    Top Item
    -------------------
    Level 157: Super Sexy Armor (Current)
    Hardcore-798
    Charm-779
    Know-how-785
    Endurance-794
    Crit-10.84

    Weapon Item-(This is a comparison of the exact item, almost 39 levels lower, and even it has higher stats.)
    ------------------
    Level 136: Super Sexy Katana (Current)
    Hardcore-674
    Charm-688
    Know-how-689
    Endurance-663
    Crit-9.48

    Level 175: Super Sexy Katana
    Hardcore-616
    Charm-590
    Know-how-615
    Endurance-620
    Crit-8.41


    The only legendary 1-stat item I've manage to get, matching my MC's my main stat, is a weapon item. I don't have direct comparisons of same stat legendary items, but 1-stat items should have similar stats at the same level.

    Comparison of 1-stat items
    -------------------------------
    Legendary weapon-Level 116, 1,912 Charm (Current)
    Legendary bottom-Level 175, 1,966 Hardcore
    Legendary top-Level 175,1,967 Charm
    Legendary helmet-Level 175, 1,996 Know-how
    Legendary weapon-Level 175, 1,996 Endurance

    Epic pet-Level 128, 967 Charm (Current)
    Epic pet-Level 175, 1,325 Charm
    Epic top-Level 175, 1,297 Charm


  2. #2
    Where do you get so many samples? I haven't seen any legendaries in the shop yet since the update. But they always had quite a bit of spread on the stats so maybe you got unlucky ones?

    By the way, why does the forum show me HH ads? Seems odd doesn it? >.>

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by vem View Post
    Where do you get so many samples? I haven't seen any legendaries in the shop yet since the update. But they always had quite a bit of spread on the stats so maybe you got unlucky ones?

    By the way, why does the forum show me HH ads? Seems odd doesn it? >.>
    Pachinko. It's much lower than the range would normally allow.

    The ads are misplaced though, but that's another topic... :P

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by vem View Post
    Where do you get so many samples? I haven't seen any legendaries in the shop yet since the update. But they always had quite a bit of spread on the stats so maybe you got unlucky ones?

    By the way, why does the forum show me HH ads? Seems odd doesn it? >.>
    I've only seen maybe 1 epic and no legendary items in the shop since the update, too. Was the epic and legendary shop rate also lowered/nerfed in the update with yet another undocumented change?

    The items came from playing Epic Pachinko several times with saved up points just like the first post says.

  5. #5
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    I can confirm. Recently I've mage Epic rolls for event characters and got a bunch of lvl 180 legendaries (those balanced ones that affect all stats), they are all weaker than IDENTICAL versions of lvl 165 legendaries and by a huge margin (over 20%).

    Super sexy eternal knot (lvl 165)
    All 4 stats ranging from 840 to 792 (crit at 11,36%)

    Super sexy eternal knot (lvl 180)
    All 4 stats ranging from 616 to 649 (crit at 8,64%)


    This is huge difference for exactly same items placed 15 levels apart.

    (As for other guy question, legendary items DO appear in shop, though very rarely, yesterday I had one appear, but because I was already in bed, I let it go since my iPhone has too small screen to even see what stats it had)

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    well maybe its for the big PvP rework that they are implementing now (we got only one patch and one patch notes out of 4 that are planned) so we will see when its finished. And whats more if its nerf for everyone and everything then its not that big of a problem at all ... in PvP others will get nerfed gear too and bosses are easy to beat without any special equipement.

    BTW: your chance of getting legendary items should depend on your lvl ... but I am not sure about numbers and I am too lazy to look for them so I cant say more

  7. #7
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    It's a mistake that it doesn't appear in the patchnote, but yes, it has been confirmed as a feature of the latest update.

    It concerns only legendary items, not epic.

    Why did they do that? They explained that it was because legendary items - especially the mono-legendaries - were OP: they made the girls' level and grade irrelevant, as well as raising your battle stat.
    With this nerf on legendaries, a balance should be attained between equipments, battle team (girls level and affection grade) and boosting your stats.

    This is a fairly understable move, once you realize that a mono-stat legendary item was around 50% stronger than the strongest girl of your specialty, at max level and 5 stars.

    They did that to make the game less pay to win: if they kept the game as before, the game would highly favored the paying gamers who spent lots of kobans in epic pachinko and got several legendaries.
    Now, the advantage of such tactic is more limited.

    It was the right thing to do, imho. Their only mistake is to not have wrote it in patchnote and explained why.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It's a mistake that it doesn't appear in the patchnote, but yes, it has been confirmed as a feature of the latest update.

    It concerns only legendary items, not epic.

    Why did they do that? They explained that it was because legendary items - especially the mono-legendaries - were OP: they made the girls' level and grade irrelevant, as well as raising your battle stat.
    With this nerf on legendaries, a balance should be attained between equipments, battle team (girls level and affection grade) and boosting your stats.

    This is a fairly understable move, once you realize that a mono-stat legendary item was around 50% stronger than the strongest girl of your specialty, at max level and 5 stars.

    They did that to make the game less pay to win: if they kept the game as before, the game would highly favored the paying gamers who spent lots of kobans in epic pachinko and got several legendaries.
    Now, the advantage of such tactic is more limited.

    It was the right thing to do, imho. Their only mistake is to not have wrote it in patchnote and explained why.
    I get that they are trying to make it less pay to win but all that really does is fuck new players and free to play people. They didn't nerf the older mono legendaries, they simply made the new ones suck. So, what if people are sitting on lvl 400+ or 600+ mono legendary sets? With a 20% decrease roughly of their stats you won't ever be stronger than them.

    It feels like anytime they have a semi good idea they kinda fuck it up by not balancing the past ranks for arena or items we already own because they don't want to upset the whales and people who spent real world money.

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I get that they are trying to make it less pay to win but all that really does is fuck new players and free to play people. They didn't nerf the older mono legendaries, they simply made the new ones suck. So, what if people are sitting on lvl 400+ or 600+ mono legendary sets? With a 20% decrease roughly of their stats you won't ever be stronger than them.

    It feels like anytime they have a semi good idea they kinda fuck it up by not balancing the past ranks for arena or items we already own because they don't want to upset the whales and people who spent real world money.
    First, there are no lvl 400 nor 600. Few days ago, highest level in game was between 230 and 240.

    The devs explained they didn't nerf the legendary equipment already possessed because
    - they couldn't do it safely without spending a very long time on this
    - it would have been unfair for those players who have them

    They acknowledge it's a problem, but we cannot draw hasty conclusions, here: in a few days, the battle mechanics will be revised. The importance of secondary, tertiary and crit stats will be readjusted. Main characteristic will lose its edge. So that should partially balance it all.

    For the rest, well, these OP items will become obsolete after a few months, so... The lucky players with one of them will have a small edge for some time.

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