Thread: Girl drops with new system

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i understand.
seriously they need to raise drop rate on girls so that when a player puts in enough effort to play non-stop during events, the droppable event girls are obtained.
these kinds of wasted efforts will drive players away.
on the other hand, if they get all droppable girls mb the player will feel "lucky" and try for epic pachinko to get more event girls and thus encourage spending/buying kobans

Well, I'm done. This is the 3rd revival event with no girl drops and this means a 3rd week wasted time. I can play something else where I can at least get something for my trouble.

And I agree with you. No way anyone, including me would EVER bother playing epic pachinko when the event girl never dropped. I'm not spending money to get what should've dropped in game for free.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well, I'm done. This is the 3rd revival event with no girl drops and this means a 3rd week wasted time. I can play something else where I can at least get something for my trouble.

And I agree with you. No way anyone, including me would EVER bother playing epic pachinko when the event girl never dropped. I'm not spending money to get what should've dropped in game for free.

damn, three events and no girl? not a single one? dats some shit luck right there
I don't get why more game companies are carrying out these anti-consumer practices that drive players away
i hope you get more enjoyment out of your next game or if you continue to play HH, i bid you good luck in the next event, perhaps getting the legendary girl?

Literally leveled finalmecia from 90 or whatever she starts at to 260 without any of the 3 girls dropping. I'm not sure wtf they did with the droprate, but I'm seriously considering dropping this game now.....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

damn, three events and no girl? not a single one? dats some shit luck right there
I don't get why more game companies are carrying out these anti-consumer practices that drive players away
i hope you get more enjoyment out of your next game or if you continue to play HH, i bid you good luck in the next event, perhaps getting the legendary girl?

Thanks! Finally another player, whether lucky or not (or luckier than I am) that empathizes with us unlucky players for once, and doesn't just tell us to suck it up, or that it's just RNG and that's how it goes. Limited events should give a way to at least guarantee in-game drops no matter what the game is. Yes, I've decided to quit playing this game since the drops have gotten so bad with the new updates. Not sure what they did, but I went from getting every droppable event girl to getting literally none in a matter of weeks. Missed girls from the last 3 revival events and last 2 regular events, too. That's enough for me so I'm done.

But at least I started playing something that makes you feel like you're getting somewhere, even if playing casually. I started playing Crystal Sword Princess. It's not perfect, but it is cute, semi-fun, decent artwork, and seems very easy to understand. It has it's own client, so you don't have to rely on your browser/java/flash or w/e else can go wrong there. May not play it long, but it'll keep my mind off of this for a while.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Literally leveled finalmecia from 90 or whatever she starts at to 260 without any of the 3 girls dropping. I'm not sure wtf they did with the droprate, but I'm seriously considering dropping this game now.....

Well, it's not going to get any better, so...

At least I'm not the only one who realizes that something really changed with the drop rate after the new updates. I'm not imagining it. Even with dismal rates, SOME people will still get drops and think nothing's wrong, but something did definately change for the worse, since I went from getting every girl in every regular event/revival event to not being able to get any even with recharging combativity with in-game kobans.

Note to Devs:You will start losing your player base if you keep adding changes to the game that make it harder and harder to be successful. The free side of your game keeps getting more and more pay to win, and the pay side keeps hindering your progress the more you spend.

I'm starting to think the only reason girls keep being added to Epic Pachinko, is to make it harder to win the limited event girls. Two new Epic girls seem to be released before every new event now. That means those that DO spend money, have to spend THAT much more to get the event girls if they decided to purchase kobans and play for them. And add to that the drop rate is so dismal now, that you may even be forced to play epic pachinko for even the droppable girls. That's ludicrous.

Don't think the new changes actually make anything easier for the player...

1 .Changes in combativity to reduce the number of times you can fight a day... If you halve the number of times you can fight, then also reduce drop rate, what do you think is going to happen?

2 .Change in cost to recharge combativity... When you reduce the number of plays per day, AND you increase recharge fee, further reducing the number of possible fights per event with lower drop rate, what do you think will happen?

3. Change in boss drop to be single boss vs entire field of bosses... Add the two changes from above and give each boss it's own rate, then give event girls the same or worse drop rate than regular girls... yeah, you end up with the current game state, no one getting drops. (Now farming higher boss for money, even if you've won his/her girls, no longer gives you benefit when returning to a lower boss to farm remaining girls during events.)

4. And anything else I forgot from the recent changes...

I saw it mentioned somewhere on this forum recently, that until you get the boss up to max level, you don't get the full drop rate % increase for every failed battle. Don't know if it's true, but I wouldn't doubt it.

And now legendary girls are going to be added... If they're added during the one free week between normal and revival events, that means even less time to farm currency to upgrade your ever growing harem of affection starved girls. If you do manage to get her to drop, you just wasted another 3 or 4 days of farming currency that you actually needed to upgrade the legendary girl you just won! It's enough to give you a migraine if you think about it too hard...

With all the new nerfs, I mean player friendly updates that are bound to just keep on coming, good luck to all who still enjoy the game enough to keep playing!

I really don't know how drop rates have changed, and I don't hava a sample size big enough to really tell me anything, so your droprate could just be bad luck, or working as intended.

Since I'm pretty casual with this game, I don't really hunt down every event girl, I skipped the ones in the last short event to get more money, I really wanted to get some 5 stars done, great to know the next ones are around the corner and I can't even 3 star the last girl that dropped while farming money.

Anyway sample size, 5 regular girls dropped by bosses since the changes, so that's around the same as before.

I missed girls before the change, but I have not missed a girl since the change, so possibly the drop rates were raised, even? Just goes to show how worthless anecdotal evidence is.

You could say it is worthless anecdotal evidency, but I would beg to differ in at least a few cases. The fact that you can not have a single girl (from the normal pool of the bosses) drop with over 800 fights is rediculous. If they were adding a hardcap, then it should be significantly lower than 800 fights. If you literally use every combativity you get, that would be 50 per day (I could be wrong here, but for arguments sake). That means it would take you 16 days to drop 1 out of 3 girls from a boss. There are 8 bosses, so if it took that many every time it would take you 384 days to get them all. This is not counting any event girls or similar things.
I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I intended to use kobans to get the pachinko girls, but before you have all the boss girls, there is quite a large chance that you "accidentally" get one of the boss girls. This means that in order to avoid getting boss girls, assuming you aren't lucky and don't need to hit the hard cap, you would need to farm, literally all the possible energy you get for 384 days before you can even start using kobans to get the pachinko ones.

This doesn't take into consideration that by the time a year has passed, there is more than likely another boss added and considering the new "legendary" girl, perhaps even a new mechanic(s) introduced that might take some of that energy.
My point is, if you're looking at it from the standpoint that you perhaps wish to gather all the girls, unless you are willing to sink massive amounts of money into the game, it is just unrealistic to obtain. This discourages players from paying anything at all, because as it is, you are quite likely to be "wasting" that money on something that others, who are lucky, can obtain for free.
Perhaps I am mistaken, but the way I see it, this seems like a poor business model. That's just my 2 cents.

One thing to note is that the girls you fight the bosses for in events are not meant to be guaranteed. By that I mean, whenever games have events there is usually a guaranteed reward. That's the first girl.

I understand it sucks not getting them, but people are reacting like they deserve to get them, which is false. The only guaranteed reward is the one girl.

You have a ton more chances to get girls in this game than in other games. For me it's almost too much. I'm getting girls so fast I can't level them fast enough. I'm getting super frustrated at the grind for cash. It wouldn't bother me if I failed to get a girl during an event.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I intended to use kobans to get the pachinko girls, but before you have all the boss girls, there is quite a large chance that you "accidentally" get one of the boss girls. This means that in order to avoid getting boss girls, assuming you aren't lucky and don't need to hit the hard cap, you would need to farm, literally all the possible energy you get for 384 days before you can even start using kobans to get the pachinko ones.

My point is, if you're looking at it from the standpoint that you perhaps wish to gather all the girls, unless you are willing to sink massive amounts of money into the game, it is just unrealistic to obtain. This discourages players from paying anything at all, because as it is, you are quite likely to be "wasting" that money on something that others, who are lucky, can obtain for free.
Perhaps I am mistaken, but the way I see it, this seems like a poor business model. That's just my 2 cents.

i second that, after getting two normal boss girls and not a single event girls from epic pachinko i'm really discouraged from doing pachinko with kobans untill i farm all boss girls

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i second that, after getting two normal boss girls and not a single event girls from epic pachinko i'm really discouraged from doing pachinko with kobans untill i farm all boss girls

Yeah that's what I was lucky enough to do. I have all the normal story mode girls - the newest story girl. It's just not worth taking a chance on epic pachinko until you know for sure that your drop will be a event girl.