Thread: You do lose mojo if you lose in arena!

Originally Posted by wthvr

no - you can check it quite simply: if you gain 32 mojo for a fight, you will lose 0 or 1 and if you gain 1 mojo for a win, you will lose 31 or 32.
if you happen to lose nothing, you simply faced +32 mojo opponents and lost

It's easier to track since the latest patch. If you lose, you get a message with the amount of Mojo lost (if any).

Originally Posted by Bigshow71

It's easier to track since the latest patch. If you lose, you get a message with the amount of Mojo lost (if any).

yeah I know, but you cant see how much mojo you will lose before - so checking how much mojo you will gain for a win give a good approximation. e.g. I will not take a fight against someone that has like 40k more ego then me if I only gain 1 mojo for a win as I will lose 32 pretty definitely, but if I can gain 32 mojo for a win I can take a shot at the fight because I either lose 0 or 1 and have a better chance than 1/30 to luck out on crits and get the 32

Originally Posted by wthvr

yeah I know, but you cant see how much mojo you will lose before - so checking how much mojo you will gain for a win give a good approximation. e.g. I will not take a fight against someone that has like 40k more ego then me if I only gain 1 mojo for a win as I will lose 32 pretty definitely, but if I can gain 32 mojo for a win I can take a shot at the fight because I either lose 0 or 1 and have a better chance than 1/30 to luck out on crits and get the 32

Which is just logic, a higher risk will pay off far less...wait...

Originally Posted by wthvr

yeah I know, but you cant see how much mojo you will lose before - so checking how much mojo you will gain for a win give a good approximation. e.g. I will not take a fight against someone that has like 40k more ego then me if I only gain 1 mojo for a win as I will lose 32 pretty definitely, but if I can gain 32 mojo for a win I can take a shot at the fight because I either lose 0 or 1 and have a better chance than 1/30 to luck out on crits and get the 32

Which is just logic, since it's based on a simplified elo ranking system. You can gain a lot of points if you win against a much better ranked opponent, but you don't lose much points if you lose.
In the other hand, you don't gain a lot of points if you win against a lower ranked opponent, but you lose a lot points if you lose the battle.

I have to say that I would really like to see not only the amount of Mojo you can win, but the amount you can lose before starting the fight. If for no other reason that it can inform a decision whether the gain is worth the potential loss. Granted, this mostly benefits those who focus mainly on the PvP aspect and are seeking to make larger gains in Tower of Fame. Even those of us who do the free arena battles, only, could still see some benefit, just not as much.

Originally Posted by Bigshow71

I have to say that I would really like to see not only the amount of Mojo you can win, but the amount you can lose before starting the fight. If for no other reason that it can inform a decision whether the gain is worth the potential loss. Granted, this mostly benefits those who focus mainly on the PvP aspect and are seeking to make larger gains in Tower of Fame. Even those of us who do the free arena battles, only, could still see some benefit, just not as much.

Well, indeed, it's not displayed, but you can easily calculate it yourself. The formula is (*mojo gain* - 32)

Since the update my rank has plummeted to 50K. Every time I lose, 31 mojo is deducted. On the VERY rare occasion that I win, a whopping 1 (ONE) is gained. That sure is a great motivator, isn't it?

Originally Posted by XiliX

Since the update my rank has plummeted to 50K. Every time I lose, 31 mojo is deducted. On the VERY rare occasion that I win, a whopping 1 (ONE) is gained. That sure is a great motivator, isn't it?

Your opponents are randomly selected among players having Up to +15 and down to -15 levels than you have.
And Mojo rewards are function of their on classment in the ToF.
So, the situation you describe means that you have comparatively weak battle stat compared to your level standard, but you are higher than them in the ToF.
That make me think you did a lot of PvP before the dev team start updating PvP (it was easy to progress in mojo before, because your opponent's alpha girl was not taken into account, thus leading to easy victories even against stronger opponents)?