Thread: You do lose mojo if you lose in arena!

I have to say that I would really like to see not only the amount of Mojo you can win, but the amount you can lose before starting the fight. If for no other reason that it can inform a decision whether the gain is worth the potential loss. Granted, this mostly benefits those who focus mainly on the PvP aspect and are seeking to make larger gains in Tower of Fame. Even those of us who do the free arena battles, only, could still see some benefit, just not as much.

Originally Posted by Bigshow71

I have to say that I would really like to see not only the amount of Mojo you can win, but the amount you can lose before starting the fight. If for no other reason that it can inform a decision whether the gain is worth the potential loss. Granted, this mostly benefits those who focus mainly on the PvP aspect and are seeking to make larger gains in Tower of Fame. Even those of us who do the free arena battles, only, could still see some benefit, just not as much.

Well, indeed, it's not displayed, but you can easily calculate it yourself. The formula is (*mojo gain* - 32)

Since the update my rank has plummeted to 50K. Every time I lose, 31 mojo is deducted. On the VERY rare occasion that I win, a whopping 1 (ONE) is gained. That sure is a great motivator, isn't it?

Originally Posted by XiliX

Since the update my rank has plummeted to 50K. Every time I lose, 31 mojo is deducted. On the VERY rare occasion that I win, a whopping 1 (ONE) is gained. That sure is a great motivator, isn't it?

Your opponents are randomly selected among players having Up to +15 and down to -15 levels than you have.
And Mojo rewards are function of their on classment in the ToF.
So, the situation you describe means that you have comparatively weak battle stat compared to your level standard, but you are higher than them in the ToF.
That make me think you did a lot of PvP before the dev team start updating PvP (it was easy to progress in mojo before, because your opponent's alpha girl was not taken into account, thus leading to easy victories even against stronger opponents)?

This is about what I've been seeing since the leaderboard revamp...
win a pvp = gain within 3 to 9 mojo
lose a pvp = lose between 25 to 30 mojo

I don't think I've seen a result outside of those ranges.

I'm winning a lot more fights than I'm losing, but it seems kind of rough.

Originally Posted by MuljoStpho

This is about what I've been seeing since the leaderboard revamp...
win a pvp = gain within 3 to 9 mojo
lose a pvp = lose between 25 to 30 mojo

I don't think I've seen a result outside of those ranges.

I'm winning a lot more fights than I'm losing, but it seems kind of rough.

Although I have seen them outside that range, your numbers are fairly close to my standard amounts. In fact, the gain/loss ratio has been one of the big complaints so far. You're in a situation where one loss can negate anywhere from 5-9 wins. You have the rock-paper-scissors weakness system, but it's a known quantity that you can adjust/plan for (via gear, raising stats, and stat boosters. What you can't plan for is the RNG of the crit system. You can take on someone 20k-30k less mojo less than you and lose badly because of crits. The reverse is also true, however, if you are the ones who get the lucky crits. This makes the battle system a bit of a crap shoot. Now at this time mojo isn't that big of a deal so it's ok to risk a loss, but when they implement the leaderboard rewards, this is going to become a bigger issue since you're going to find people less inclined to risk a big loss of mojo for a tiny gain.

Easy fix, limit the mojo loss to what we can win. Every match I have lost recently is due to massive shafting by the crit hit rng.