Thread: Sara Jay

So the current evet is almost half over and I have a whopping 14 affection points. This new system is horrible. At the current success rate I'm going to have more partials than actual harem girls. I wish Nutaku would go back to the old system, it seemed a lot easier to get girls.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So the current evet is almost half over and I have a whopping 14 affection points. This new system is horrible. At the current success rate I'm going to have more partials than actual harem girls. I wish Nutaku would go back to the old system, it seemed a lot easier to get girls.

It's a major mess up.
Simply put, if I manage to total about 80 affection points on the last day of a 5 day event, then I would consider spending Cobans on extra combativity to get the girl before the event is over. (for an 11 day event, I'd want a bit higher amount of affection points, since I've already spent more combativity on reaching that, and 80 points on an 11 day event would mean I got less than 10 points a day, so less than 10 affection points for 50-72 points of combativity!)

If it turns out I have way less affection points than that, then I'll simply consider it not worth the effort, so I won't spend Cobans on extra combativity, and am even less likely to spend Nutaku Gold to get Cobans to aquire extra combativity.

I actually wonder whether the developers investigated any time in working out the mathematical probabilities in this game. Just drawing a couple of bell curves using the games' formulas and watching where things end up could be an eye-opener.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So the current evet is almost half over and I have a whopping 14 affection points. This new system is horrible. At the current success rate I'm going to have more partials than actual harem girls. I wish Nutaku would go back to the old system, it seemed a lot easier to get girls.

The new system is working as intended, now pony up the cash!

I was at 61 hearts by spending a bunch of kobans on her. (you actually win way more hearts for girls with fewer battles if you spend kobans on combativity.) but then in my next victory, I got 100 hearts in one go bringing me to 161 rewarding me 61 130affection gifts...

Old System - extremely low rates for girl drop but the rates increase over number of battles basically you could get all new world girls before the next world starts.
New System - Visual tracking of progress with flat extremely low rates for 100% basically world girls will take 2 new recent world maps to get with event and legendaries are only possible if bring back catch up event that is after LD3 but we were given a new legend so it might never come or legends are premium grind girls now.

Okay, I can understand if you didn't play that often and thus didn't get 100%, but I've used every fight point since Sara Jay became available and, with about ten hours left, I've gotten 34 points. If they brought her back and I doubled that, it still wouldn't be worth it for me to pay kobans to finish her off.

I'm enjoying the game, and I'm perfectly fine with the Ninja Sacred Lands girls being slow going (since you have an unlimited amount of time), but I'm glad I'm not the only one frustrated by this.

I do like that they changed the event Pachinko from 900 to 300, since it gives me an opportunity to get better equipment sooner even if the girls come at the same rate, which is to say 1 for every 900 kobans.

Well the problem with normal world girls being slower is its worst for newer players as that means when an event start(which is like every 1-4 non event days wth) they will always be at a disadvantage as normal world girls can steal affection point gain from event girls. Example last epic days Sifra(expert) would be harder to get if you had the 3 plain ninja girls because they(all 1-3 of them) were still able to gain affection. Thus can ruin a free or a saving players epic days girl hunt or any event girl hunt if your newer. The only upside to the new system is a progress bar and when all things are considered its not a real good trade off.

The Normal world girls stealing from the event girls is good, not bad.

During events with high event girl droprates, the normal world girls leech off of these drop rates. You get these normal girls a LOT LOT faster by doing the events. Like 10 or a hundred times faster. And, they don't leech off of the event girls enough for you to not get the event girls either.

And the normal girls, who are cheap to upgrade and generate decent cash flow, are better than the mostly epic event girls who are very expensive to upgrade, may not generate good cash flow, and for the most part still don't have the stats to push free story girls out of the battle team.

As for events, after the first day you can basically calculate how much that it will take to buy the girl with Koban refills. The drop rate is fairly constant. In the case of Sara, its 600-700 kobans that you needed to spend. She is a 5 star legendary for hardcore who will be the alpha girl for any Hardcore player who doesn't have Golden Bunny.

I don't use kobans to do any kind of pachinko anymore. Getting girls by refilling stamina to free girls from bosses turns out to be cheaper and the Pachinko girls are 66% likely to not be in my class, 70% likely to not have stats good enough to push free girls out of the battle team, and too expensive to upgrade for the purposes of generating income.

They dont leech off the drop rates of event girls they just have different rates. If you do 20 battles the system will randomly pick each game for normal prizes or affection number. The math is pretty basic to see if you have more girls you can collect then they will basically get in the way of progress of a limited time girl. Yes it is still possible to collect any girl of rarity with the right among of time without spending but the need to spend will be higher if you are low on time and with normals included in the rng will probably drive up the cost of getting them with coins. For example, I aquired the legendary Easter Bunny in a round 4 day about the time of legendary days without spending but it would probably took me more time or some coins if I had normals included in the rng to get her.