Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is there any reason to keep extra copy of null weapons after MLB?

None whatsoever. I've just been foddering them for SL'ing as they're pretty good for that at least.

Originally Posted by Nik

In the meantime, I have ssr artemis, eros and raphael for light and a couple sr (like mithra) along with archangel idol. Dont have any dark idol besides delphyne and jack, would u recommend start building a light team with those?

Are you willing to spend an mtix or two? You don't have the core light SSRs (namely Michael and Tishtrya, and you don't have Sol either, who is a beginner favorite.) The three light SSRs you have are very good, but until you have at least Mike AW, you may not feel like light is much of an upgrade 'cos Amon U + Sammy is a pretty solid combo until you start doing wind raids, GO and tower where you'll run into debuff resistant stuff every now and then.

I can go into a lot of details about the 3 SSRs you have, but the highlights are:

• SSR Arty:
  
  • Frame A def down, decent firepower (outclasses most dark hime nukes but is outclassed by Lugh and upcoming Iris for light)
  • Beginner and AAB friendly and gets major buffs later
• Eros:
  
  • Defensive buff specialist and deals with any game mechanics that Sol can't deal with (in particular, paralysis and ability seal)
  • Beginner and AAB friendly, but you need to manual her for maximal dmg mitigation, since her def up and barrier only lasts 3T
  • Gets AW next Feb that makes her a mini Mike AW
• Raphy:
  
  • Stalling specialist - honestly, not that great until you awaken her 'cos the proc rate on her skills are kinda low, but once you awaken her, she's pretty awesome
  • She's the first hime with 4 skills - all geared towards delay (dizzy, BP, orb eat, mode gauge reduction + atk down.) Importantly, when she bursts, she gets a 2T affliction rate up that makes it much easier for her skills to land
  • Think of Raphy AW as Mordred on steroids, and she is a hime, so you can stick her in the last slot and not slow down the team burst, whereas if you bring Mordred to a fight, she'll probably be your burst bottleneck on a light team
  • Raphy AW is not as beginner friendly (long CD means planning required) and not AAB friendly (if you want her dizzy to land, it's best to cast it right after she bursts)
  • Also, pros don't usually use Raphy (just like how pros don't use Mordred), but if you're not yet pro, there's a lot to like about her (I'm not pro, so I use her in AQ5 in case my debuffs miss and I just need a couple more turns to get another FB ready)

Archangel is ok, her active is situational. Using her as a main eidolon is good for beginners but not that great once you have a decent grid. If you can't LB her, it's better to switch to St. Nick or Barong from the eidolon shop 'cos you can MLB those for free and get much better stats.

Also, if you do decide to main light, or at least keep your options open, make sure you get into a decent union ASAP!! Next UE is light, and it's coming later this week.

tl;dr - you need to be willing to invest some time and ideally some money (or gacha luck) for your light team to get good and feel like an upgrade over your Amon U + Sammy combo.

Btw, is your Amon U and Sammy at lvl 75+ yet? Amon U at lvl 75+ gives you mode gauge reduction and Sammy at lvl 75+ will let you hit the def down cap with just those two himes. You won't hit def down cap with your current light line-up until you unlock both D'Art and Hercules (and you need Hercules' axe at at least LB1.) I still think light is a better choice in the long run but I'm known to be biased towards light, so... I think in your case, it might take longer than usual to appreciate light's versatility.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Are you willing to spend an mtix or two? You don't have the core light SSRs (namely Michael and Tishtrya, and you don't have Sol either, who is a beginner favorite.) The three light SSRs you have are very good, but until you have at least Mike AW, you may not feel like light is much of an upgrade 'cos Amon U + Sammy is a pretty solid combo until you start doing wind raids, GO and tower where you'll run into debuff resistant stuff every now and then.


Archangel is ok, her active is situational. Using her as a main eidolon is good for beginners but not that great once you have a decent grid. If you can't LB her, it's better to switch to St. Nick or Barong from the eidolon shop 'cos you can MLB those for free and get much better stats.

Also, if you do decide to main light, or at least keep your options open, make sure you get into a decent union ASAP!! Next UE is light, and it's coming later this week.

tl;dr - you need to be willing to invest some time and ideally some money (or gacha luck) for your light team to get good and feel like an upgrade over your Amon U + Sammy combo.

Btw, is your Amon U and Sammy at lvl 75+ yet? Amon U at lvl 75+ gives you mode gauge reduction and Sammy at lvl 75+ will let you hit the def down cap with just those two himes. You won't hit def down cap with your current light line-up until you unlock both D'Art and Hercules (and you need Hercules' axe at at least LB1.) I still think light is a better choice in the long run but I'm known to be biased towards light, so... I think in your case, it might take longer than usual to appreciate light's versatility.

I dont mind spending on mtix since it pretty much removes rng. I've gotten a couple of dupes so far, LB1 raphael staff, LB1 pluto orb and samael hammer and LB1 archangel (55% light). Been in a union since I started pretty much and I guess they're ok. Amon is 75+, trying to buy the apotheosis grimoires from this event to do samael next. Been running my souls with sneak attack (no legendary souls yet), since It feels more consistent to have a def break on each stage (most stuff is 3 stages), than the atk buff. But probably due to not fighting any high debuff res stuff yet.

I guess I'll aim for mike/tish when there's an mtix then.

Originally Posted by Nik

LB1 pluto orb

You actually have a pretty solid dark team there. Do you have Berith by any chance? With her, you have a pretty good setup for light ult raids so you're a little less reliant on others bailing you out (which is what I had to do when I first started, sit there and wait, and sometimes no one comes >.<) But even without her, you can easily survive one death beam with just Pluto and Amphisbaena (you can get her from the eidolon shop.)

LB1 archangel (55% light).

I dunno what LB1 archangel stats are like (don't have her), but if she's similar to other gacha eidolons, you can probably use her for quite a while. If you have a choice, try to make friends with elemental eidolons (St. Nick, Barong, Thunderbird and of course Managarmr.) Those complement char atk eidolons like Archangel and Hecatonchires.

Been in a union since I started pretty much and I guess they're ok.

As long as they clear 30 mil union PP, you have all the important stuff. Try to clear at least 1 mil individual PP yourself for the last SSR weapon to drop. Invest in your dark team until UE is over 'cos you get elemental advantage with that for light UE.

Amon is 75+, trying to buy the apotheosis grimoires from this event to do samael next.

Awesome, Amon U should be helpful in upcoming light UE. Try to budget some books a little before the next mtix as well, 'cos Michael needs to be awakened to get good.

Been running my souls with sneak attack (no legendary souls yet), since It feels more consistent to have a def break on each stage (most stuff is 3 stages), than the atk buff. But probably due to not fighting any high debuff res stuff yet.

Tactics and soul selection can become a long discussion so I won't go into those here (there's a which soul should you use thread that you can consult.) If you're struggling with any particular content, feel free to ask. You have a solid dark team and your light team is good enough to help you with fights with annoying mechanics even though it's not at super speed yet.

One quick question - do you have Cassio unlocked? CM will be useful in the coming UE (I'm assuming you're not in a paratrain union.)

I guess I'll aim for mike/tish when there's an mtix then.

Yes, do that =)

Raphy AW is not as beginner friendly (long CD means planning required) and not AAB friendly (if you want her dizzy to land, it's best to cast it right after she bursts)

i can somewhat agree with this. still, i think her AW is okay for aab'ing

and LB1 archangel (55% light).

on a side note, Archangel (much like her dark counterpart Azatoth) holds 70% char att at mlb, so she can be quite viable alternative for Fluffy/Anubis... but nowadays its easier to found Fluffy/Anubis than maxed Arch/Aza...

oh, and one more thing

try to make friends with elemental eidolons (St. Nick, Barong, Thunderbird and of course Managarmr.)

Dream forgot to mention. NEVER. I PLEAD YOU. Never use summon skill of St.Nick

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

One quick question - do you have Cassio unlocked? CM will be useful in the coming UE (I'm assuming you're not in a paratrain union.)

Ya. I run her as my only healer for light team since eros + raphael keep the team super safe. For my dark team I switch her for Achilles/whatever soul I need to level to get mordred/herc/joan. And yea I see the light lilim buffs herself so the strip will be important.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

Dream forgot to mention. NEVER. I PLEAD YOU. Never use summon skill of St.Nick

Yes, that IS very important. The last thing you want to see when you join a raid is a def up on a boss that's not supposed to have it x.x

Originally Posted by Nik

And yea I see the light lilim buffs herself so the strip will be important.

The demons buff themselves, too. Ult demon's normal OD is atk buff, raging OD is random 10 hits - you don't want the atk buff on a random 10 hit if you can help it. But it sounds like you're well prepared =)

My current wind team is Shingen, Cybele U, Frigg, Aether, Arianrod. Today I pulled Titania (+ fire 140%, but it realy doesn't matter in this situation). Is there a good reason to replace someone (Aether?) with her? It's a DMM so i don't have a single exceed weapon (I started too late). BTW, this team (+ Hrae) was made in 11 month of FTP play. On Nutaku I can't even dream about it.

Titania + Aether is $$

a quick question about anubis
her effect commensurate of dark is 100% without a dark grind? or she is = to the other 50% commensurate event girls