Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Uriel is second target for fire aw, just after Swarog, but you need other fire hime so my vote is for Sol - she is good in any element team. Or even better, you may aw Satan first to get more def debuff - it should be nice and then Sol. Thor is good for para-train in union event, outside it she is mediocre.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi guys, I'm FTP and want some advice on my dark team (main) and SSRs.

I'm running Satan, Ereshkigal, Hypnos, and Nyarla/Manes/Sol depending on the situation. I also have Beezlebub and Rangda. For my Soul, Andromeda, sometimes Arthur. I'm not sure what team comp/strat is best with these I have; the light resist is nice with Eresh/Hynos, and Manes is good for stuff that one-shots one-by-one although her CD's are long. I heard Beezlebub is a decent SR but I don't use her often. Any advice?

As for my SSR, by some stroke of luck (or not?) I have one SSR for each element, most of which can be awakened: Uriel, Satan, Sol, Thor, and Isis. I'm not sure which one I should awaken, since it seems like Sol is the most popular choice, and she is always a good sub, but my light synergy is wonky and Satan is a great choice as well. In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR. My thunder team is bad so Thor is out of the question for me. Which one should I awaken and why?

Sorry for the long-ish post and thank you.

definitely Satan if you're dark main. worry about Sol when you get a better light build, especially if you're using Andro as a dark soul.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi guys, I'm FTP and want some advice on my dark team (main) and SSRs.

I'm running Satan, Ereshkigal, Hypnos, and Nyarla/Manes/Sol depending on the situation. I also have Beezlebub and Rangda. For my Soul, Andromeda, sometimes Arthur. I'm not sure what team comp/strat is best with these I have; the light resist is nice with Eresh/Hynos, and Manes is good for stuff that one-shots one-by-one although her CD's are long. I heard Beezlebub is a decent SR but I don't use her often. Any advice?

As for my SSR, by some stroke of luck (or not?) I have one SSR for each element, most of which can be awakened: Uriel, Satan, Sol, Thor, and Isis. I'm not sure which one I should awaken, since it seems like Sol is the most popular choice, and she is always a good sub, but my light synergy is wonky and Satan is a great choice as well. In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR. My thunder team is bad so Thor is out of the question for me. Which one should I awaken and why?

Sorry for the long-ish post and thank you.

The best strategy for your Dark team is to main Sol and run Light!!!!


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As for my SSR, by some stroke of luck (or not?) I have one SSR for each element, most of which can be awakened: Uriel, Satan, Sol, Thor, and Isis. I'm not sure which one I should awaken, since it seems like Sol is the most popular choice, and she is always a good sub, but my light synergy is wonky and Satan is a great choice as well. In terms of attack, my fire team is pretty up there, which makes Uriel an okay choice, but she's not a super-top-tier SSR. My thunder team is bad so Thor is out of the question for me. Which one should I awaken and why?

Honestly, given that you have Uriel, I think you should main fire instead. Uriel AW is awesome and trounces anything that dark has. I would awaken her first and switch over to fire main as soon as your grid is upgraded.

Sol AW is good, but cannot carry a light team by herself. Uriel is a core fire hime and can be excellent on her own even if you don't pull the other excellent fire himes (namely Svarog and BFM Amon.) If you're willing to spend one to two mtix, I would actually main light, if you want to remain completely f2p, fire is your best bet imo.

In the meantime, while you're upgrading your fire or light grid, I would do the following for your dark team:

I'm running Satan, Ereshkigal, Hypnos, and Nyarla/Manes/Sol depending on the situation.

Don't use Nyarlathotep with Satan, both of their def down are A frame. I would also use Manes instead of Sol for heal assuming your grid is SLvl-ed. Manes is pretty fast for an SR, and between her and Satan, you should be able to FB noticeably earlier when using Arthur as soul. If you want to run Andro, you shouldn't need Sol in addition for heal, and Andro can Ex cleanse or CM as needed (well, unless your strategy is to stay alive as long as possible so Andro can do raid-wide heal, I do that a lot with one of my sub accounts. Your dmg output takes a big hit with that strategy though and it doesn't make sense for solo content.)

Also, light rst don't stack, since they're in the same frame, so you need to stagger Ereshkigal's and Hypnos' light rst for maximum effect.

For my Soul, Andromeda, sometimes Arthur.

I would recommend unlocking Mordred. BP + Satan's orb eat is a pretty potent combo. BP is just useful in general even if you no longer main dark.

I heard Beezlebub is a decent SR but I don't use her often.

Beezlebub is really good, you need to know what you're doing though. Rampaging prevents your team from using abilities and bursting, so the standard way to use her is to use up everyone's abilities early in the battle (I usually use everything up on T1 except heal for this strategy), cast rampaging, do stupid dmg for 2T, then hopefully FB soon after that. What makes rampaging really powerful is that it is a separate multiplier, so the 50% literally means 50% more dmg, as opposed to the 15% atk buff, which is only a 7% dmg increase if you're at 117% assault value. It's best to stack all your buffs when rampaging for maximum effect. If you Ex cleanse, use it to cleanse the def down from Beezlebub's second ability before you go on a rampage (you can also use Sol, but then you waste a heal.) The precaution you need to take is that you need to be strong enough to withstand RNG for 2T since Sol or Andro or whoever can't bail you out until the rampaging is over (usually just means you need to go in with high enough hp.)

Rangda works similarly but doesn't rampage the whole team. She's good if you're up against debuff resistant stuff. I would use her instead of Ereshkigal unless you're going full turtle.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

The best strategy for your Dark team is to main Sol and run Light!!!!

If you're willing to mtix, what Dejnov says is actually true and not merely a joke (though I am also known to be biased towards light, so... feel free to get a second opinion.)

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

If you're willing to mtix, what Dejnov says is actually true and not merely a joke (though I am also known to be biased towards light, so... feel free to get a second opinion.)

Go Thunder. Cuz stronkest element.

Originally Posted by Bear

Go Thunder. Cuz stronkest element.

Yeah but missing a core Hime and Thunder Aphro not easy to get (not in MTix either). This is really tough for the newb to do. Best bets are Fire or Light. Pick one to main and drop Dark.


Dejnov.

Sorry, just realized that I missed a bunch of posts while typing out my wall of text.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Uriel is second target for fire aw, just after Swarog, but you need other fire hime so my vote is for Sol - she is good in any element team. Or even better, you may aw Satan first to get more def debuff - it should be nice and then Sol. Thor is good for para-train in union event, outside it she is mediocre.

Originally Posted by Kitty

definitely Satan if you're dark main. worry about Sol when you get a better light build, especially if you're using Andro as a dark soul.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

The best strategy for your Dark team is to main Sol and run Light!!!!

Originally Posted by Bear

Go Thunder. Cuz stronkest element.

So, add in my vote for Uriel, there's no consensus here whatsoever. Be thankful that you didn't pull Gaia or something instead of Isis to further muddy the waters, lol.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Yeah but missing a core Hime and Thunder Aphro not easy to get (not in MTix either). This is really tough for the newb to do. Best bets are Fire or Light. Pick one to main and drop Dark.


Dejnov.

Who needs Afro. Just run gun grid and have Dian carry.

:rami:

Oh and Thunder > Fire

Originally Posted by Bear

Who needs Afro. Just run gun grid and have Dian carry.

:rami:

Oh and Thunder > Fire

Which he doesn't have either... wtf Bear? Are you just being a jerk to be a jerk or are you actually trying to help the newb?


Dejnov.


P.S. It's all good either way, but, if you're being serious, please help the cub out by adding some more detail to why he should do that when he doesn't have those fucking options... it'll help all of us. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Uriel is second target for fire aw, just after Swarog, but you need other fire hime so my vote is for Sol - she is good in any element team. Or even better, you may aw Satan first to get more def debuff.

Originally Posted by Kitty

definitely Satan if you're dark main. worry about Sol when you get a better light build, especially if you're using Andro as a dark soul.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

The best strategy for your Dark team is to main Sol and run Light!!!!

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

there's no consensus here whatsoever. Be thankful that you didn't pull Gaia or something instead of Isis to further muddy the waters, lol.

Yeah, just came back to see that everyone has different opinions. Seeing as Sol isn't super-core to any of my teams, I might put her on hold. Still a bit stuck between Satan and Uriel, so imma pop in my fire Kamihime list to see if it's good enough that I can switch over to maining them:

Uriel, Nataku, Ragaraja, Konohana-Sakuya (Swirl Sakura, SR) are on my main team. I also have Kagutsuchi, Themis, Ceridwen, SR Amon, and Culyune (none of which I like much, except for Kagu).

The one thing that my fire team (which was actually my original main before I pulled Satan and a bunch of other dark Kamihimes) excels at is activating burst plenty of times, especially with Arthur, due to Uriel, Nataku's double/triple attack rate up, and Ragaraja's zeal. So they do have pretty good synergy. It's certainly lacking in the defense department though, aside from Konohana's heal.