Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

If you're full, full, FULL (insert element here) BAKA, once you have your Grid at full +99 then it's fine to start +99ing your Hime as well.

But... since you should never go FULL BAKA, it's just so much better to start +99ing some other element's Grid. It's simply five times more efficient that way.

Okay I see. I was worried that there might be some sort of cap to the +99's and if you +99 kamihime then it would waste the +99 on weapon/eidolon that could boost the whole team or something.

I am a Thunder main but have not finished the grid and eidolons yet so I might do thunder kamihime after I finish those if I don't get anything good from the other elements.

Reminder that even though you might not have anything good right now, you probably will later on. It's just better to store a garbage +99 weapon to be used for when you do find something useful.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Reminder that even though you might not have anything good right now, you probably will later on. It's just better to store a garbage +99 weapon to be used for when you do find something useful.

Okay I will keep that in mind, thank you very much for the lightning fast response!

Originally Posted by Slashley

Contrary to what others are saying... I'd say yes. Assault and HP is goddamn amazing, especially for new players.

Downsides:
1. Eventually, you'll need to Limit Break those four 0-Star weapons into one 3-Star weapon. At that point, all skill levels put into three of them will be lost.
Upsides:
1. You get a fuckload of HP as you skill level those up.
2. It will take you foreverrrrrrrrrr before you start getting to the point where there are better weapons and you need start combining these. Next Water event? JANUARY. And has only one useful weapon. After that? Basically April, and only has one good weapon as well. Then basically June. Even with all of those, you'd still be at only 7 + Soul weapon weapons.

... so yeah, just keep those separate and slvl20 them. Your primary source of weaponry will first be the SR Disaster Glaives, then later Water Olympia if you can somehow grind that.

Fuck Kamihime is such an awful game to start late. Fucking devs.
REROLL INTO A 100% EIDOLON OR YOU WILL BE FUCKED. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

I will not particularly disagree, just point out your reasoning is more short-terml - maybe the player will have more fun if he skill level up those 4 weapons.

Also, it is worth mentioning that by November, he will have access to Tiamat's Epic Quest. It will mean access to other SSR Weapons before January. Then he can also access Sandalphon's Epic Quest and get his hands on Gabriel, an excelent SR Water kamihime.

Originally Posted by Geo

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Also, it is worth mentioning that by November, he will have access to Tiamat's Epic Quest.--

Oh, right, I forgot all about Epic Quests. However... does Tiamat even have Epic Quest...?

What he will get access to: November Jorm (good Eidolon, no Water weapon), February Reiki (good Eidolon, decent Water weapon), April Yam (decent Water weapon). Doesn't look like that'd change things around much. Still looking at only starting to merge those weapons one year into the future, depending on how well he can farm Water Olympia.

Tiamat epic quest just came out this event on DMM alongside Fleurety and Yule Goat.
Next are Yggdrasil and Cyaegha in late September.

Thanks everyone for the advice, much appreciated. I am not going to reroll for a 100% Eidolon though, too much time spent not playing and I had already spent on this account which I dont want to throw away. ^^;

Originally Posted by Slashley

REROLL INTO A 100% EIDOLON OR YOU WILL BE FUCKED. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Originally Posted by Makenshi

I am not going to reroll for a 100% Eidolon though, too much time spent not playing and I had already spent on this account which I dont want to throw away. ^^;

You're in the same situation as me. I spent on my account and got myself up to 4 light SSRs before I found out about rerolling, and didn't want to start fresh so I know how you feel. While I'm not gonna push you to reroll, I will elaborate a little on Slashley's warning based on my own experiences without a 100% eido just so you know what you're getting yourself into:

1. It's hard to make and KEEP friends with 100% eido without one yourself - I make new friends with fluffy (Managarmr - 100% light eido) almost as quickly as I am losing them.
2. Without 100% eido yourself AND without 100% eido support, you're probably dealing about a third dmg less or worse than everyone else.
3. When you get to the point where you start doing rag raids, your lower dmg makes MVP racing close to impossible, which results in:
3a. Much worse drops - like MUCH MUCH worse, MVP in rags guarantees a magna and two extra chances of getting phantom weapons, VMVP guarantees you absolutely nothing - I have lost track of the number of times I got only 3 seeds for VMVP-ing a rag.
3b. You can overcome this by just leeching lots of raids, but a lot of strong players do not want weaker players in their friend list, so if you don't do well in rag raids, you get kicked, making it much harder for you to even access rag raids in the first place.
3b.i. Getting into a good union helps mitigate this, but a lot of good unions only accept other strong players and/or ppl that are willing to be paratrain slaves and/or really really active
3c. You can attempt to MVP a struggling raid using an endurance team but that takes a lot longer to clear stuff, so you may MVP one raid while everyone else may have done half a dozen raids in the meantime (not an exaggeration, oh and remember quasi-solo-ing rag is non-trivial even for strong players and you have to get it done in an hour or fail, so you can't just turtle infinitely - this is coming from someone who is infamous for turtling infinitely.)
3c.i. There is a huge flaw in trying to MVP a struggling raid btw, and that is some strong player can still come in and burst twice for insane dmg and steal your MVP, so you just spent a lot of time manual-ing for mere VMVP, here's your 3 seeds, congratulations.
3d. Some rags seem designed to hate weaker players, where if you can't defeat something in a fixed number of turns, you've basically lost (looking at you lrag.)
4. There is an upcoming farmable eido that can sort of close the power gap with a 100% eido, but it has more hp than rags, so all the problems I described for rags apply here, so another catch-22.
5. Events that give the best rewards are all ranked (UE, tower, dummy) so falling behind can become a vicious cycle.

There's basically the equivalent of a poverty trap in this game. It's almost a different game depending on whether you manage to get into a strong friend/union network or not and possession of a 100% eido has strong influence on which side of the divide you end up on. The game is still playable without a strong friend network, but it'll require a lot more luck and/or some crazy plans to farm end-game content.

tl;dr life without 100% eido sucks 'cos almost no one wants to befriend you and end-game content can't be cleared solo.

Will these Eidolons ever be available with Miracle Tickets?

Originally Posted by Geo

Will these Eidolons ever be available with Miracle Tickets?

ye, 150 eye ticket for the 140% + 100%
or special "one time only" mtix which is $100 but you can't get the 140%, only the 100%