Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by qwertyX

What is the damage breakdown of 120% eidolon?(guaranteed and additional?)

That is such a strange question. What do you mean? This is my best guess for an answer, which may or may not answer your question:

120% Eidolons (Cerberus, Leviathan, Hanuman, Nidhoggr) have 100% base, and gain 4% per same-element Eidolon equipped. If limit broken, this increases to 105% base. Come December, they'll be buffed to gain 8% per same-element Eidolon equipped.

Notice that this is different from Anubis and Managarm. They are 80% base, and gain 4%(+1% per Limit Break). So if you have no Dark Eidolons equipped, a 120% Anubis will be 80%.

I was told that the breakdown was 60+12% per wind eidolon making a single 100% a superior choice when you have multiple element eidolon in your grid.. Just wanted to confirm

Originally Posted by qwertyX

I was told that the breakdown was 60+12% per wind eidolon making a single 100% a superior choice when you have multiple element eidolon in your grid.. Just wanted to confirm

I have no idea of that. Where did you hear that?

Maybe they're confusing them with the Event 50% ones, which are absolutely awful unless you have full same-element Grid.

Where is the most reliable place to farm holy crystal of light? Farming guardian only drop holy star of light

Originally Posted by Yukarichan

Where is the most reliable place to farm holy crystal of light? Farming guardian only drop holy star of light

Daily SP quests exp/ults i.e. 25AP/50 AP ones would be best options for t4 and t3 stars however drops are not guaranteed. The other ones drop t1 and t2 stars
You can also get t1 stars from gemcha
And others can be exchanged from shop

With upcoming Wind guardian, is it worth to switch from UE sword grid to bow grid ? CMIIW, bow grid effect Stinger right ? Or should i start lance grid (have each Odin & Chu)?

Originally Posted by wickedgod

With upcoming Wind guardian, is it worth to switch from UE sword grid to bow grid ? CMIIW, bow grid effect Stinger right ? Or should i start lance grid (have each Odin & Chu)?

Any other grid is better than sword grid... Sword grid is absolutely the most awful one you could get... Bow grid is awesome~
Lance grid will be super hard to get...

Originally Posted by wickedgod

With upcoming Wind guardian, is it worth to switch from UE sword grid to bow grid ? CMIIW, bow grid effect Stinger right ?

Depends whether Bethor turns out to be as easy as Aratron and whether you have anything else better to farm: Bethor bow has 1% more base assault than UE sword but no pride value at all. Phantom bow is assault + stinger, correct, versus phantom sword avalanche (DATA); it's the assault on the bow not the stinger that is worth the trade though.

If you just want a more balanced grid, you can mix Bethor bows (assault/exceed) with Kyuki bows (assault/defender) then you can use the last three weapon slots for whatever, maybe Pazuzu lance for ascension if you have Azazel AW, or Garuda hammer if you want even more hp or your Odin lance for firepower.

Or should i start lance grid (have each Odin & Chu)?

For lance, only Odin's lance is worth bricking imo, Cu's is not. Only Labyrinth lance and Pazuzu lance are f2p if I'm not mistaken, so you either overfarm Pazuzu or need to somehow acquire more Odin lances and bricks for wind lance grid. Odin lances are very powerful, but if you're gonna spend real money, you might also consider waiting for wind Atum bows instead (still got like half a year-ish before she's out though.) Her bow is assault/defender/vigor on FLB, and if you need more filler to complete the grid, Bethor bows are decent enough versus no farmable wind lances for Odin.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Depends whether Bethor turns out to be as easy as Aratron and whether you have anything else better to farm: Bethor bow has 1% more base assault than UE sword but no pride value at all. Phantom bow is assault + stinger, correct, versus phantom sword avalanche (DATA); it's the assault on the bow not the stinger that is worth the trade though.

If you just want a more balanced grid, you can mix Bethor bows (assault/exceed) with Kyuki bows (assault/defender) then you can use the last three weapon slots for whatever, maybe Pazuzu lance for ascension if you have Azazel AW, or Garuda hammer if you want even more hp or your Odin lance for firepower.

For lance, only Odin's lance is worth bricking imo, Cu's is not. Only Labyrinth lance and Pazuzu lance are f2p if I'm not mistaken, so you either overfarm Pazuzu or need to somehow acquire more Odin lances and bricks for wind lance grid. Odin lances are very powerful, but if you're gonna spend real money, you might also consider waiting for wind Atum bows instead (still got like half a year-ish before she's out though.) Her bow is assault/defender/vigor on FLB, and if you need more filler to complete the grid, Bethor bows are decent enough versus no farmable wind lances for Odin.

So Dreamlitz does a pretty good job of summarizing the situation fairly clearly. The bow grid (guardian bows, with Wind Atum Bows or other bows) is the most straightforward and viable grid to field for Wind over the next year if you have no resources. The glaive grid (guardian glaives) actually works a bit better than a hammer grid for Wind, but there are no real Hime glaives (other than Cybele's), but you can do a full guardian grid with them (5 guardian glaives and 3 guardian bows). This is an option if you really want to farm, but may take a long time to field properly.

The other option is a Wind Arcane grid. The guardian arcane sports a hefty 15.5% ascension and 27% vigor, while you can use either of the old union event items or the new bow for your exceed. There are also three fairly decent SSR arcane items in Wind's stable: Minerva's, Aether's, and Hastur's. All provide either small or medium assault (not great, but still decent) with Hastur's being a decent choice (DefenderL, AssaultM). The arcane phantom weapon is defender vigor also.

A grid of 3 guardian bows (or UE swords,staffs), two of hasturs's arcane, 3 guardian arcanes, and the phantom arcane can give you 84% assault with guardian bows nearly 105% with UE staffs, 120%/90% exceed, 58% defender, 81%/12% ascension, and 62% vigor. Combined with GaiaAW and AzzazelAW you can have 740 to 920 hp constantly healed per round, with damage cut or defense up constantly also. (Plus Gaia's standard damage cut and guard abilities). If you can keep hitpoints up, that 62% vigor is equivalent to 120% assault giving you around 200% assault on this team.
Bonus points for fielding Bethor in your grid to up all values by another 40%. The arcane items in wind are also fairly forgiving in that they have both values at 0LB and only get stronger on FLB.


Dejnov.

Is it just me, or are you making it sound like everyone is just casually going to find multiple (MLB?) copies of very specific Hime weapons.

And you're also talking about making a 105% Assault/62% Vigor Grid, which sounds really fancy, but has the liiiiittle problem is being veeeeeeery unreliable even with Gaia. Once the first AoE Overdrive has been basically negated by Azazel and Gaia, the second one will just end your damage output. So you're gonna need to be doing content that you can end reaaaaaally fast to make proper use out of that Grid...